Confirmation of Arxiv author practice regarding preprints, postprints,
refereeing and revisions. (Common sense already said as much.) Now it would
be good if authors in other fields (as well as repository managers)
exercised some common sense too...
SH
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On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 5:59 AM, Graham Triggs grahamtri...@gmail.comwrote:
And if they remain closed access forever, what has been achieved [by
mandating immediate deposit]?
(1) They will not remain closed access, since about 60% of journals
already endorse making the immediate-deposit
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Hi Arthur,
I
Am 21.03.13 10:35, schrieb Tim Brody:
By comparison, taking a copy is little extra effort and the institution
can say unambiguously that they have an open access copy.
wrong: if somebody uploads a PDF the institution
- may have a /*copy*/ if the identity of the file submitted or its
An immediate-deposit mandate moots most of this discussion. Versions and rights
need
not be checked if the mandate simply says:
Deposit the refereed draft immediately, and make it Closed Access.
So all this discussion is about what *else* you can do, and when.
Here's a list:
1. A sensible
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Hi Arthur,
I think you missed the point I was trying to make. The statement I
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On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 08:05 -0400, Stevan Harnad wrote:
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 5
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Hi Arthur,
I think you missed the point I was trying to make. The statement I was
responding to was that gold includes everything you need to audit against (UK)
funder
On Sat, 2013-03-16 at 08:05 -0400, Stevan Harnad wrote:
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 5:14 AM, Graham Triggs
grahamtri...@gmail.com wrote:
2) By definition, everything that you require to audit Gold is
open, baked into the publication process, and independent of
who is
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Graham Triggs grahamtri...@gmail.comwrote:
On 14 March 2013 22:14, Stevan Harnad har...@ecs.soton.ac.uk wrote:
Why is it an absurd requirement to deposit immediately in the author's
IR, regardless of whether the
journal is subscription or OA and of whether
The Australian situation is interspersed - nothing to do with REF and HEFCE,
but our equivalent research evaluation process. I provide this for
comparison.
Arthur Sale
University of Tasmania, Australia
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On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 5:14 AM, Graham Triggs grahamtri...@gmail.comwrote:
On 16 March 2013 02:15, Stevan Harnad amscifo...@gmail.com wrote:
(2) The proposed REF mandate makes it very explicit that *REF submissions
are ineligible if they are not deposited immediately upon publication*.
(No
Thanks to Steven Harnad for giving us his enthusiastic view on the
HEFCE prooposd policy for REF and OA. Among my concerns that he
doesn't address, however, is one that will be shared by many/all in
the Humanities (almost always the Cinderella at the OA ball): What
about books?
Though
Dear Larry,
I agree with you.
HEFCE/REF should not not make OA mandatory for books/monographs.
Even deposit need not be mandatory: Merely urged, wherever possible. (I
doubt that there would be many objections to Dark Deposit.)
Insisting on book deposit would, again, be needless over-reaching,
On 2013-03-14, at 1:13 AM, Nick Thieberger th...@unimelb.edu.au wrote:
But what if the article is in an OA journal that would like to have the hit
count for
downloads from its site? Is there scope for the mandate to cover only non-OA
journal articles perhaps?
That would be an exceedingly
On 2013-03-14, at 6:00 PM, Arthur Sale a...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
Unfortunately Stevan, Nick was asking you about the Australian Research
Council’s policy.
Thanks, Arthur, for pointing out that I had mistaken an ACT policy query for a
HEFCE/REF policy query
(since it was on the HEFCE/REF
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Leslie Carr l...@ecs.soton.ac.uk wrote:
There have already been joint publisher/repository initiatives such as
PIRUS/COUNTER that deal with this situation. See
http://www.jisc.ac.uk/whatwedo/programmes/pals3/pirus.aspx
The aim of this project is to develop
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