Hi Samir,
Perhaps it was the dust, which for lack of a better word--felled you. We are
talking here of as you saw open cast mining. BTW, that's one reason that
cruise ships do not show up.
I feel one would need qualitative data too. Although I believe that the
issue is beyond moot, I hear what
Hi Hartman et al,
In narratological terms, how about a visual depiction of an mis-en-abyme.
The reduplication of the visual metaphor of the coffin will create the
mis-en-abyme.
People should consider making their own small coffins, out of shoe boxes, or
out of other boxes. People could also make
Hello God,
Oh the free will. Oh the free will.
Can you help them go the distance.
Hello Goa,
Can you help them go the distance.
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Hello God by Dolly Parton
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRzrHB2qhNMNR=1
Do you love someone more than others. (a line from Hello God).
Hello Hello.
Hello God
Dear Mervyn,
Could you please provide the proverb in Kiswahili, and if time permits—with
a breakup of the words, as in KiswahiliwordA = belly, KiswahiliwordB =
empty.
venantius
From: Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca
Subject: [Goanet] The flesh is strong, the er, spirit and ashes too
(del)
Hey people,
A interesting article—which may sprout ideas in many directions including
analogies with unrelated topics, and also on relationships(of kinds).
Burt's Bees, Tom's of Maine, Naked Juice: Your Favorite Brands? Take Another
Look -- They May Not Be What They Seem
by Andrea Whitfill,
Hi Fred,
I have a question but I hesitate to ask, since I may have missed the
researchers name. Did it appear in the interview? If I did miss finding her
name, my apologies for asking.
venantius j pinto
From: Goanet Reader goanetrea...@gmail.com
Subject: [Goanet] Goanet Reader: Goan writing
Dukrak sobit nettoun, machilan bosoun kaz'rak vortalle. Vater dukrachi nodor
ek lhan/dak'lem chiklan borlolem kondar poddli. Dukor to dukor (a pig is a
pig). Ghatli udki and rebddant louonc laglo. Ami kittem sozmoya. Ittlench--
ki, dukor to dukor.
Once, my mother was really mad at us--she said
Pope embraces internet in apology over Holocaust bishop
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article5888650.ece
Thank heavens the Spirit spoke to him.
venantius j pinto
You deserve a reply Joao, since yours is not a rhetorical question.
If by you one means the developers then I surmise that they (the
developers) will start gunteo cheppunk aka ball busting (or kneading
marbles). to get their agendas back on track. If this method of groping
fruit does not yield
Hi Frederick and all,
True on all four counts. Minorities, perhaps disproportionately have indeed
being playing a role towards social justice and change; and the
Christian/former-Christian activists who stand out, do so on account of
their given Christian names(at least among the older crowd). But
True Samir. His ashes would potentially spin a storm.
On the other hand the Great Soul may just accept if it were the Birlas who
did the buying.
(excerpt from Gandhi: Patron Saint of the Industrialist)
http://asnic.utexas.edu/asnic/sagar/spring.1994/leah.renold.art.html
The close relationship
Would someone kindly tell me the exact location of the Brahman temple in
Goa.
Also if possible the easiest way to get there say from Panjim, or Goa Velha
or Mapuca. By this I mean local transportation; a private car being the
other option.
venantius
The next time we think of messing with another life or feel that we are all
that, lets keep this clip in mind. As the media brings us sound bites, the
stories that resonate with us cannot be contained, and have more than
navigable depth. Unlike sound bites, it is the documentaries, the rare
Arun Ferreira: Another Naxal? And if he is a Naxal, is there a reason? Are
such appelatives the new consensus building exercises among the middle
classes. Also I am sure that politicians get security briefings, and are
very aware of those who are with/for the masses. Or is a system hell bent on
/show/717338
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Thanks also to others who wrote privately.
venantius
Message: 14
Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 08:32:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Rajan P. Parrikar parri...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Brahma temple query
To Goanet -
Venantius Pinto wrote:
Would someone kindly tell me the exact
Thanks Rajan.
venantius
--
From: Rajan P. Parrikar parri...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa govt to Goans: Get lost!
To Goanet
Venantius Pinto wrote:
In this regard, allow me to point to a recent piece I
illustrated
Soter is spot on when he makes an analogy and price of the agony caused by
Goan Pride and Idiocy with the havoc wrought by the Koshi/Kosi.
In this regard, allow me to point to a recent piece I illustrated on the
Kosi. The original is 24' 3 wide x 4.75 tall, and done in sumi.
For the 4000 prostitutes in/of Goa who lost their jobs/livelihoods and/or
continue their practice in other states--or feed themselves through other
means.
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/129799/celebrate_international_sex_workers%27_rights_day_today/
Dear Floriano,
This is what I was hoping would not happen. I for one am aware that you are
relatively different, but the fact that you fell short of stating your
disdain in no uncertain terms, brought about this valid response from Rajan.
It is valid because of the stakes involved as you would
*Ultra Violet* features a community of young feminists blogging on various
issues, challenges, and triumphs that affect women in India today.
It is a Hengasara Hakkina Sangha
http://www.hengasarahakkinasangha.org/initiative.
Check out the various links at the following url. Very educational.
Elizabeth Gilbert on TED(ideas worth spreading): A different Way to think
about ceative genius
http://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_gilbert_on_genius.html
...@web30402.mail.mud.yahoo.com
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To Goanet -
Venantius Pinto wrote:
I would like to share an email response from Madhav Chari..
Rahman's orchestrator will be able to deliver work for the film, but he
will
not be able to compose a piece of one hour
Thanks Rajan for coming into this thread. Hopefully we can have more of such
dignified discussions.
I am a tiny bit embarrassed that MC included me as a example in his post,
but it helps him make his point.
vjp
Hi Rajan and everyone,
I thought I made myself pretty clear that
Dear Goanetters,
I would like to share an email response from Madhav Chari to my post of Jai
Ho Rehman.
Madhav,
Thanks for continuing to engage and point towards meaningful analogies. You
succeeded in writing what we often talk about. My hope has often been that
people will be able to leverage
Bab Colaco,
I guess you meant this is jest on account of the two spellings--Lauadinha
and Laudainha (NOT WRONG in Goa). The other spelling is Ladainha, and means
the same. As you rightly pointed out its an ode--a strophic musical form..
But lest your query create confusion and be seen as mockery
Hi Cecil,
Could you send a link to Mario Miranda's diaries please?
Btw, one rarely starts off as a cartoonist, caricaturist, satirist (through
word or image) or one who manipulates anatomy to emote character. It is
usually a progression.
venantius
From: Cecil Pinto cecilpi...@gmail.com
Fair enough Tim. Allow me to raise a few points, in fairness to Rajan's
perspective on Rahman.
Some of my friends find Rahman's music catchy. Anthing catchy
usually appeals to a broader audience, who may not be musically too
discerning or demanding. This per se is not a weakness--but a state of
The lyrics to Guantanamera.
http://www.arlo.net/resources/lyrics/guantanamera.shtml
Side by side translation at link below:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamera
Btw, allow me to me addd that Belina is an eyeful. Stately.
venantius
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From: JoeGoaUk
Romans and Fud. Hilarious.
Blessedly talented. This reminded me of my friend Trevor (Troah) who had a
Anglo mother and a Goan father. Janet would say to us, Stoooaaap saying
bleddy man, say blessed. Her anguished cry would be, Cussed buggers.
venantius j pinto
From: Hartman de Souza
Lotuses in the mud by Reena Martins in The Telegraph. No theatrics, a
straightforward piece.
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1090222/jsp/7days/story_10572965.jsp
venantius j pinto
Paduka/e are slippers; basically just a knob which sits on a post that juts
out of the sole. Those worn by rishis, munis, sants were made of wood. Peopl
still waer them.
An example of ceremonial paduka from the Bata Shoe Museum:
http://www.allaboutshoes.ca/en/paduka/the_paduka/index.php
Kitem? Growing pressure-ru. In the loins or in the chest region?
Btw, good move in posting this article. The
venantius
From: Goanet News news.goa...@gmail.com
Subject: [Goanet] Polish Church under growing pressure
Polish Church under growing pressure
By Adam Easton
BBC News, Warsaw
Verily, verily I say to you bro -- its because they have shit for brains.
a$$, arse and ass all apply here.
ALSO
Bhains ke samne been bajane si kya matlab. (What's the point of playing the
flute in front of the buffalo). These buffaloes.
OR as my dear colleagues at JJ would say: Gudgyat mendu
Any self-respecting lawyer(particularly libel and human rights) must read
this article. And also those who find the worst among the lot to represent
themselves.
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The Lawyer's Tale: Harvard Law Scool's Hour of Shame
http://www.counterpunch.org/
Click on the corresponding link on
of Dandeavaddo
occupied the 2nd floor of the 3 storied building in Dockyard Road Mazagon,
(deleted)
Dev borem Korum
Eddie
- Original Message -
From: Venantius Pinto
Does anyone know whether cudds may be rented out in Mumbai--say for a
party?
No unnecessary comments please
Is the annual singing competition still taking place in Sonapur, Mumbai?
Reason I am asking is to see whether someone can point me to the song say on
youtube. Lord teach us to pray. The words do something like this (please
exuse errors):
Lord teach us to pray
Its been a long and cold December
Does anyone know whether cudds may be rented out in Mumbai--say for a party?
No unnecessary comments please.
Does anyone know say one which is one the largest Goan village clubs in
Mumbai?
Perhaps the Gulf Goans will know about this. Please respond.
+++
Were non-Christain Goans
In CounterPunch
http://www.counterpunch.com/
Neo-Liberal Terrorism in India
The Largest Wave of Suicides in History
by P. Sainath
It may also help to read Gobalization and Dalits: A Buddhist
Perspective by Dr. Anand Teltumde if you get the chance.
venantius j pinto
Seriously too many variables in Casual sex with a Goan. A big tongue in
cheek, but still.
venantius
From: Cecil Pinto cecilpi...@gmail.com
Subject: [Goanet] Sex in Goa
Ulrike Rodrigues playfully and candidly examines her options for sex in Goa.
Read the whole article at:
We hate*** (rarely love) each other based on many subtleties that most of
are loathe to put into text. We leave it to the scholars to enlighten us,
who very often cannot or will not write in language that is accessible.
Perhaps close proximity between individuals and their successes or lack
The retired (retarded) police officer who hit Auda Viega must have been a
serious English speaking asstard. The sheer balls to say that and that too
to a woman. What have Goan women and Goans done to deserve such knobheads. I
am sure that that are others of their ilk who are reading this. And if
Bhogos Saiba.
NOT, one that never FALLS down, but one that is never FAILING(as in
INFALLIBLE). Also imperishable.
Acyuta: one of the 24 incarnations of Vishnu and Krishna.
venantius
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From: D'Souza, Avelino adso...@kockw.com
Dear Joao-san,
Do itashimashite. Hontou ni. Soshite--I hope I am not taking liberty in
addressing you by your first name.
What you did is very commendable. I was not questioning you, but getting a
sense of whether you made sure that your thoughts reached the right people.
What happens after that
Guys, guys Goans ALL,
Perhaps it may be a good idea to insert (deleted) whenever text or a
paragraph is deleted.
This way the obvious deletion is confirmed and not, however
inadvertently attributed an inconvenient intent.
Or just give an 2-3 excerpts of the whole piece and let people folow the
Sharing a response from Madhav Chari to another friend of mine:
venantius
_
Just to clarify: I don't only play jazz music, I play tango, Afro-Cuban
music, Afro-Brazilian music, classical music and the blues: I have performed
all these forms live, and these are the music forms I
Dear Joao,
This is a very timely and splendid suggestion. Not just village farmers but
those who may have vegetable patches, and others who are considering having
their own. So their surplus can make its way to their village market. In New
York City this is well done and regulated no matter who
The world gets a little more bizarre. And you thought the Eighties were Bad.
__
Under the Black Flag by Uri Avnery from counterpunch.org
(excerpt)
ISRAELI TV VIEWERS have lately been exposed to a bizarre sight: army
officers appearing with their faces hidden, as usual
Where do these guys come up with such figures and HOW WOULD THEY MAKE IT
HAPPEN if at all? Seriously to do this means something has to give and
already a lot has got washed away. In tragi-comedic terms it amounts
to running a sub 40sec 400 metres--beating the rest of the country (which I
doubt has
Good going Floriano. Bless all of you.
Perhaps the Archbishop and all priests should offer their masses to the Goan
soil and its people every bhot a puja, and every maulvi a salah (a nafl). I
think that is not much to ask. You know that your support is needed to
inspire solidarity. I understand
-related ravages in Goa, has been filed in
the Kolkata High Court.
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The Rs.5,014 cheque was the first contribution made towards Sebastian's
judicial expense kitty by noted Goan artist Venantius Pinto.
Advocate Norma Alvares is helping me handle the defamation case
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Come on lets rethink why we do what we do. Peace bro. Time to move off this
topic
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From: Mario Goveia mgov...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Mangalorean beauty Freida Pinto Shines at 2009
From: Venantius Pinto:
So my understanding that she wore white was wrong. Thanks
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looking into this. This is perhaps the first
time in years or maybe the second in that a post of mine has been verfied by
you.
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Subject: Re: [Goanet] Mangalorean beauty Freida Pinto Shines at 2009
From: Venantius
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:15:43 -0500
From: Venantius Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com
Its was pure lateral thinking on my part.
So does the following still hold in your mind: Hanh?! How does
this compute? Does Venantius know something that we don't? If I have
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beauty Freida Pinto Shines at 2009
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:50:32 -0500
From: Venantius Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com
I hope they did not mistake her for a vestal virgin.
Mario asks:
Hanh?! How
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Dear Godfrey,
I feel that people should also be allowed to stay and have a picnic, etc. So
after the first mass, I hope people will not be forced to leave (in other
words chased out). This thought has to do with maintaining affinity with
that space and not allowing a redundancy to mar ones
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I understand Victor Rangel-Ribeiro's concern, which he has voiced on earlier
occasions, although I may not remember where.
Without getting into who writes what and perhaps even why the need to write,
one expects every writer to be able to stand their ground. So, there are
sloppy writers overseas
William de Curtorim did a graet job in his recital. Now lets look a sonnet
by William Shakespeare, from an essay on Lust by Simon Blackburn,
which grew out of a lecture and book series on the Seven Deadly Sins
cosponsored by the New York Public Library and Oxford University Press.
Sex is one
Dear Fleming,
To your surprise at the New Year functions being cancelled, we must remember
that we are a minority, and as such must stand down in terms of rejoicing at
a time when the collective mood in the reasonably proud people that we are,
has turned sombre.One may only rejoice when the entire
bhasantar somorpon korpi venantius j pinto
From: Venantius Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com
Subject: [Goanet] Sex Scandal
William de Curtorim did a graet job in his recital. Now lets look a sonnet
by William Shakespeare, from an essay
Tasers: First in the US, now in the UK, and sooner than later in India. The
unwashed masses and those who object too much (for just rights) have to be
kept in line. It could be you, it could me me. Aiz maca faleam tuca
could have a different connotation. I hope I am wrong about this.
Congratulations Alexyz. Congratulations Siolcars. Congratulations Goa.
You have made Goans proud, and hopefully even many of those who have felt
your prod. Mind you I did not say those you take digs at -- big difference
there. If in your winning the Xennoi Goembab 2008 Puroskar, it would
Here are three orations by three Christians who have put out a range of
ideas in their messages. The first is the Christmas sermon given by Rowan
Williams, Archbishop of Canterbury on Dec 25, 2008, the second is an address
on Bernard of Clairvaux by Benedict XVI delivered on Aug 21, 2006, and the
... but not before
putting a spanner in its works, at alleging being back stabbed to boot.
Mog asundi
Miguel
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:55:40 -0500
From: Venantius Pinto
venantius.pi...@gmail.com
Subject: [Goanet] Edna Vaz Krupali Naik
Message-ID:
bf202eb20812251755s68d7c044rffce9e458f7bc
Dear Shyam Vinayak,
First of all a subtle, gracious and reasonable assessment on how one lives..
Much like the Hindus, the Christians too have this approach to life,
although a lot of it has to do with the way one persists in truth, something
that is becoming a rarity. Free will has been
What is going on in the example you present would be seen as a setup. The
carols took place at another venue, and not jaadu-tona vashikaran, as the
following statement suggested would be performed, as well as the next
statement expresses, at :
*YES.
Or in yet another parlance, while we munching on savouries-- BALLS TO THE
WALL. Nothing to do with masculine ghunteo's, but a techiques used in
fighter planes. The operative phrase would be to apply full throttle.
*http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=balls%20to%20the%20wall)
These are the kind of issues that any and all oppositions should get
involved in. It builds street credibility. Real Konknni credibility. Not
handing out tsochkes (like keychains, dairies, and other assorted crap).
Work for the common person, all the time all the way. Respect and value your
youth.
To Goans in Tennessee (if any and on Goanet do say a word),
Sorry to hear about the Environmental Spill Disaster Devastates Tennessee;
48 Times the Size of Exxon Valdez
Dear Marshall,
I believe there have been such meeting before. Allow people their own way of
understanding, through their own forums. Ask whether one may attend if one
is not sure whether permissible; or even show a willingness to present ones
own findings. Otherwise what ends up happening, as all
-- Forwarded message --
From: Kanak Dixit kan...@himalmag.com
Date: Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 6:33 AM
Subject: press release from Kanak
To: Venantius Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com
*Press Release*
*Kathmandu**, 24 December 2008*
* *
*Media must observe restraint: South Asian
hurt is in the air.
venantius
From: Marshall Mendonza mmendonz...@gmail.com
Subject: [Goanet] TERRORISM AWARENESS MEET AT BICHOLIM ON SUNDAY
Venantius Pinto:
I believe there have been such meeting before. Allow people their own way
of
understanding, through their own forums.If Goa is to heal
For the sake of the common Konknni reading Goans, I hope Messias' factually
investigative articles are appearing in the Konknni media. This sort f info
is too perilous to ignore or be limited to the English media alone.
venantius j pinto
From: Lionel Messias lionroars@gmail.com
Subject:
Awesome, Anwesha.
Parab. Porbe. Parabens.
This is the best end of year gift for Konknni's all over the world.
If possible, please post a passage or two, until I get a chance to have the
book in hand.
Please also post details of publisher, places where one may find it in Goa,
etc.
From: anwesha
Here are 10 images I recently illustrated for an upcoming magazine cover on
the topic, Terror. I had in mind the idea of Rorschach ink blots.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/venantius/
Set 1 large
http://www.flickr.com/photos/venantius/3131675114/sizes/o/
Set 2 large
This is what I intuited and avoided asking any questions about; even
before I had read this piece earlier. But now that its finally appeared on
Goanet, I would like to have a small say.
When I was studying at JJ (5 years + I year Bridge Course) I would got off
at this station and know it very
From Alternet.org
Why Atheism May Be The Best Way to Understand God, by Larry Beinhart
(Two excerpts)
Nowadays, it is common to hear things like God is Energy, or the Universe,
or Love, or That Which Quarks Come From (heard that one last night, with
great conviction and certainty).
If the word of
Muntadar Al-Zaidi expected to be shot after he hurled the first shoe — so no
point in making the point that, under Saddam Hussain he would have been
killed. Its is interesting how things change and no correlations through
analyses are permissible when someone is willing to put his / her life on
Dear Valmiki,
Interesting how there are different spellings for Hedwig (German) in
Portuguese, as from the French and German forms -- Edviges / Edwiges and
Hedviges.
Neat piece. Thanks.
venantius
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From: Valmiki Faleiro valmi...@gmail.com
GOAN NAMES
By Valmiki
Dear Pratap, Thanks for posting ARK's piece. I believe it was also posted
earlier on Goanet (within the past twelve months), by Miguel Braganza, if I
am not mistaken. But often, for understanding to develop, multiple readings
are required. Thanks again.
Aristotle's Four Causes sound very simple,
I am seeking thoughts as to why certain prostitutes were earlier referred to
as modorn (godmother*). Was it across Goa or only in certain enclaves? Was
it an euphemism? Was the word modorn used tongue in cheek, or in an
endearing manner of address? I have briefly heard of services rendered by
them
Nothing like directly taking in the cool sea breezes against ones crotch.
And I presume bum cleaning is done with sea water where lovers splash each
other, children ingest feces while swimming, and older folk go for the
annual dunk. The picture are indeed beautiful, even defecating has a beauty
to
The following excerpt is in *There can be no 'either/or'. We need both civil
liberties and security. *
By Aunohita Mojumdar. Kabul, 28 November, 2008 (a little lower on the page;
also other editorials)
http://www.himalmag.com/Bombay-Attacks_fnw7.html
In a way Mojumdar's Either-Or fits in with
Hi Nasci.
Perhaps its is better to see it for what it is, an anouncement. There is
every good reason why one would promote an event -- as a volunteer, an
alumni, or having children enrolled in that school. But even if there is a
relationship between Ms Powell and Goa Sudharop, let us just be happy
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