[google-appengine] Re: Problem while uploading application on Google app engine

2009-02-25 Thread sunita khilare
Hii Jyoti, Thankx for ur reply... Now its working fine There was some proxy issues thats why it was giving problem.. On Feb 24, 9:47 pm, Jyoti Shete-Javadekar jyoti.javade...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Sunita, There could be issues with your app.yaml. Could you please check if your have

[google-appengine] Re: Annoucement: you may now purchase additional computing resources

2009-02-25 Thread Matija
How can '...An application operating entirely within the free quotas can process around 30 active dynamic requests at any given moment...' if maximum rate for CPU time within free default quota is 15 CPU-min/ min ? Should you correct that statement to 15 active dynamic requests ? Pozdrav,

[google-appengine] Re: Advice on dealing with high CPU consumption in fetch + parse script

2009-02-25 Thread Scott Seely
Are you doing anything other than parsing the XML? Also, how big is the Atom feed? 10MB? Also, are you using a DOM parser or stream based? Stream based will be a bit faster. Finally, how long does it take you to parse, say, 100 Atom entries using your code? I would expect the time to be on

[google-appengine] Re: usercount

2009-02-25 Thread Takashi Matsuo
Perhaps you could consider using memcache API instead of Datastore property. Just my 2 cents. -- Takashi Matsuo On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Brandon Thomson brandon.j.thom...@gmail.com wrote: One way is to store a lastSeen datetime property for each user in some kind of user entity in

[google-appengine] Re: Annoucement: you may now purchase additional computing resources

2009-02-25 Thread gops
There is a cap at 3 Request per Second. well I surely know that , flikr,facebook,youtube or any big out there is getting more hits than that... so possibility of making some next generation supercool site only on google app engine is impossible ?? { yeh , i know , the chances that my

[google-appengine] Re: website not responding

2009-02-25 Thread Toney
Thank you Marzia, not sure how I could have missed that news. Great Work on adding the billing option On Feb 24, 4:12 pm, Marzia Niccolai ma...@google.com wrote: Hi, If you exceed datastore quota, you won't stop serving, but won't be able to modify any data in the datastore. Today,

[google-appengine] Re: app engine patch / eclipse / pydev / debug : help

2009-02-25 Thread Waldemar Kornewald
On Feb 24, 4:43 pm, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com wrote: Nobody can help ? In the Arguments tab there is Working directory (at the bottom). Choose Other and click on Workspace and select your project. Bye, Waldemar Kornewald --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received

[google-appengine] Re: app engine patch / eclipse / pydev / debug : help

2009-02-25 Thread Sylvain
Thank you very much, now it works. FYI, I had to set this value : ${workspace_loc:app-engine-patch/src} Maybe you could had this info to the documentation. Great job ! On Feb 25, 3:08 pm, Waldemar Kornewald wkornew...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 24, 4:43 pm, Sylvain sylvain.viv...@gmail.com

[google-appengine] Re: Annoucement: you may now purchase additional computing resources

2009-02-25 Thread Pete Koomen
Hi Matija, The per-minute CPU limit is independent of the number of active requests you can run. Let's assume your requests were taking on average 200ms of CPU time and completed in 200ms wall clock time, to keep things simple. There are at least three limits that come into play here.

[google-appengine] Reverse DNS lookup, Google Maps servers

2009-02-25 Thread Ishmael
We are currently hosting KML data to be fetched by GeoXml() requests to our GAE API. The data is purchased from a third-party vendor and one of their restrictions requires us to keep our polygon vertices hidden. We've been doing this by restricting these specific requests by IP address and

[google-appengine] Re: Significant quota changes. . .

2009-02-25 Thread Wooble
On Feb 24, 5:57 pm, Brandon Thomson gra...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone seen a cost comparison between Google and the other providers based on these new changes? EC2 free storage: none EC2 free CPU: none you do the math. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this

[google-appengine] Re: Annoucement: you may now purchase additional computing resources

2009-02-25 Thread bFlood
hi peter is the per-minute CPU Time quota expandable with the new billing options? brian On Feb 25, 9:39 am, Pete Koomen pkoo...@google.com wrote: Hi Matija, The per-minute CPU limit is independent of the number of active requests you can run.  Let's assume your requests were taking on

[google-appengine] Re: Significant quota changes. . .

2009-02-25 Thread Jarek Zgoda
Don't compare apples to oranges, EC2 is complete operating system instance. On 25 Lut, 16:39, Wooble geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Feb 24, 5:57 pm, Brandon Thomson gra...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone seen a cost comparison between Google and the other providers based on these new changes?

[google-appengine] Re: Annoucement: you may now purchase additional computing resources

2009-02-25 Thread Mike
I am watching your changes in the quota system from the perspective of wanting to run massive parallel applications on it. Considered that way, the changes are a definite improvement, though not quite to the point where it would be worth it for us. In particular, if I read your docs right, one

[google-appengine] Re: Significant quota changes. . .

2009-02-25 Thread peterk
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but since when was it free to run a EC2 instance? EC2 Small Instance per CPU Hour is $0.10 (same as GAE's cost 'per CPU hour') EC2 outgoing bandwidth is $0.17 per GB for the first Terabyte out. S3 outgoing bandwidth is the same cost for the first 10TB out. GAE is

[google-appengine] Re: Significant quota changes. . .

2009-02-25 Thread mchirico
Do I read this correctly? There is a reduction and it is as follows? CPU current quota - 46 hours new quota - 6.5 hours % change - 86% reduction Bandwidth current quota - 10GB new quota - 1 GB % change - 90% reduction Here's what's confusing. There is the following statement. Note the

[google-appengine] Re: Significant quota changes. . .

2009-02-25 Thread Wooble
On Feb 25, 11:11 am, mchirico mchir...@gmail.com wrote: Here's what's confusing. There is the following statement. Note the phrase applications with billing enabled will not be affected: These changes may also affect the fixed quotas applied to applications without billing enabled. Fixed

[google-appengine] Re: Advice on dealing with high CPU consumption in fetch + parse script

2009-02-25 Thread Sérgio Nunes
Thanks for the feedback. The Atom file is typically small ~100KB. I am using both minidom (for extracting entities) and BeautifulSoup (to extract properties from entries). Which XML parser do you recommend? I'm a just starting with Python. What is the fastest setup to fetch and parse Atom

[google-appengine] sending email from localhost

2009-02-25 Thread river
hello all, i just develope an application in that i set up sendmail application ,now i want to check from my local host Through GAE i learned dev.appserver.py --enable sendmail / application when i start my app in my local host and in my coding i did : def

[google-appengine] Re: Significant quota changes. . .

2009-02-25 Thread B.J.
This change could lead to significant cost changes, too: 46 hours (current) - 6.5 hours (new) = 39.5 hours/day difference * $0.10/hour * 365 days/year = $1441.75/year 10 GB (current) - 1GB (new) = 9GB/day difference * .10 * 365 = $328/ year These are worst case scenarios in many ways. Still,

[google-appengine] Disappointed with free quota changes (probably not surprising)

2009-02-25 Thread B.J.
I don't know that I have ever whined at an organization like Google for trying to make money. That's changing with this message. By my calculations, it could cost me $1000 over the next year to host my app that I had anticipated being hosted under the quotas. It may cost me nothing right

[google-appengine] Time to Ditch App Engine

2009-02-25 Thread cc
It looks like the accountants at Google have taken over If you read over the new bandwidth quotes you will find that what was to be scalable is not so anymore: Outgoing Bandwidth (adjustable, includes HTTPS) 10 GByte56 MByte/ min 10 GByte free (plus budgeted adjustment

[google-appengine] 1.1.9 can not import minidom?

2009-02-25 Thread suenway
when I use: from xml.dom import minidom errors: xml undefined, parseString undefined type 'exceptions.ImportError': No module named dom.minidom --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine

[google-appengine] Re: IBM DB2 and App Engine

2009-02-25 Thread Bhanu
hi all i am new to Google app engine i have many questions to ask i need answers as fast as u can 1. how to extract data from app engine datastore. i inserted some data through my application now i want a dump of that, how is it possible ? 2. i have some data and i need to insert that data into

[google-appengine] Re: Significant quota changes. . .

2009-02-25 Thread cc
* Bandwidth: 1 Gigabyte of data transferred in and out of the application per day 56 MByte/min 740 MByte/min This is a joke. On Feb 24, 5:56 pm, theillustratedlife toonscr...@nvbell.net wrote: Typo on my part.  Thanks for the catch.  =) Revised changes: CPU current quota - 46 hours

[google-appengine] Re: Time to Ditch App Engine

2009-02-25 Thread peterk
What are your requirements? If you want media or large-file hosting..perhaps you could use amazon's s3 to host your static files to overcome any bandwidth limitations on GAE's end (if you need more than 740MB per minute)? I'm assuming Amazon doesn't have rate limits or absolute bandwidth usage

[google-appengine] Re: Disappointed with free quota changes (probably not surprising)

2009-02-25 Thread Brandon Thomson
I am somewhat annoyed they did not start off with the smaller quotas but it can't be helped at this point. If App Engine doesn't become profitable Google corporate will shut it down and then we will all be hosed. On Feb 24, 9:12 pm, B.J. bjp...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know that I have ever

[google-appengine] Re: Cyclic Definition Problem

2009-02-25 Thread simpsus_science
Thanks for your replies. On 24 Feb., 20:02, theillustratedlife toonscr...@nvbell.net wrote: Don't type the ReferenceProperty. You mean subclassing the ReferenceProperty? I don't want to do that. Otherwise, I don't understand what you mean... You've got to be careful though.  If you have A

[google-appengine] Re: Access to module file denied (PIL)

2009-02-25 Thread Matthew Blain
Is 'img_folder' a static file? If so, you can't access it directly using 'open'. For efficiency, App Engine stores and serves static files separately from application files. Static files are not available in the application's file system. If you have data files that need to be read by the

[google-appengine] Re: Disappointed with free quota changes (probably not surprising)

2009-02-25 Thread gg
However, along with many performance improvements, we have learned that we were overly conservative with our initial free quota estimates. Therefore, 90 days after February 24th, 2009, we will be reducing the free quota resources. Bait and Switch. I guess it is legal since all you invested

[google-appengine] Re: Time to Ditch App Engine

2009-02-25 Thread gg
So why bother with App Engine at all. In so many ways it is s limited. Just move the whole lot to Amazon! I think App Engine is destined to become Google's Edsel. On Feb 25, 9:36 am, peterk peter.ke...@gmail.com wrote: What are your requirements? If you want media or large-file

[google-appengine] Re: Annoucement: you may now purchase additional computing resources

2009-02-25 Thread Peter Koomen
Note: CPU time is charged at a rate of $0.10 per *hour*--time is measured by the second, and we round up to the nearest cent, so using 30 minutes of usage beyond the free threshold on a given day would cost $0.05 :) Pete On Feb 25, 8:05 am, Mike tutu...@gmail.com wrote: I am watching your

[google-appengine] Re: Significant quota changes. . .

2009-02-25 Thread Brett Slatkin
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 8:09 AM, peterk peter.ke...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but since when was it free to run a EC2 instance? EC2 Small Instance per CPU Hour is $0.10 (same as GAE's cost 'per CPU hour') EC2 outgoing bandwidth is $0.17 per GB for the first Terabyte

[google-appengine] Re: Annoucement: you may now purchase additional computing resources

2009-02-25 Thread Matija
Hi Peter, I understand that 30 active simultaneous limit is only for free quota apps and I have already enabled billing. Let's forget for now about request/min quota. Point is that 'free' apps could have for half minute long up to 30 000ms/sec burst rate (30 active dynamic requests), but next

[google-appengine] Re: Quota Exceeded

2009-02-25 Thread Ed
app id: ecoknowmics thanks, Jeff. On Feb 24, 10:14 am, Jeff S j...@google.com wrote: Hi Ed, This is a known issue which has effected a small number of apps. Could you email me the app id for this application? Thank you, Jeff On Feb 23, 8:53 am, Ed edgam...@gmail.com wrote: thanks,

[google-appengine] Re: Ajax

2009-02-25 Thread Doug
I am not sure that this is an GAE issue. I saved our code on my computer and I can see that when running in the dev server that you get an http 200 on the get for the xml document. I do not *think* that XML docemnts have an innerHTML property, so I think that you just need to handel the XML

[google-appengine] Re: How to use remote_api?

2009-02-25 Thread lenza
Thanks Bill. This was very helpful. I ran into a problem where I cannot use the remote api when I authenticate using a hosted google account. You have to use gmail.com account. Has anyone else experienced this? Does this have something to do with the AUTH_DOMAIN and USER_EMAIL environment

[google-appengine] Question regarding NetBeans 6.5 Python support on the Mac

2009-02-25 Thread Tony Andrews
I'm trying to switch from Komodo to NetBeans and I'm stuck on one annoying problem. I can't seem to get NetBeans to recognize the GAE library module. I copied it out of the GAE bundle (as I did before for Komodo) and added it to the Python path in NetBeans, to no avail. Has anyone been able to

[google-appengine] Urlfetch returns 400 error on production but not on dev

2009-02-25 Thread mmauctiva
I have an app that loops over a list of URLs and makes a urlfetch to each. On the dev server all goes well; I get a 200 response as expected. On appengine I get a 400 error (bad request). Is this something to do with different headers being sent from appengine (and if so what are they), or

[google-appengine] Re: Ajax

2009-02-25 Thread GregF
On Feb 26, 2:40 am, PYD p...@pydelens.be wrote: server was negative. Then I remebered I read somewhere that Google Engine couldn't serve Ajax. AJAX is just javascript content. There are no specific limitations for AJAX on Appengine, except for the limitations on content generally: 1 GB

[google-appengine] Re: Disappointed with free quota changes (probably not surprising)

2009-02-25 Thread Greg
B.J. wrote: By my calculations, it could cost me $1000 over the next year to host my app that I had anticipated being hosted under the quotas. It may cost me nothing right now our usage is just under the daily CPU limits. If the traffic doesn't grow, no problem But whose goal is it

[google-appengine] Sporadic Unicode error in POST queries

2009-02-25 Thread Brian
Hi. I have observed a sporadic Unicode related bug that appears to be browser specific. It causes a db.put() to fail. I am not doing anything unusual with the incoming text except to put it in a variable, and then store in a record. I have determined that this issue is browser specific, and

[google-appengine] Re: Annoucement: you may now purchase additional computing resources

2009-02-25 Thread Mike
At work, a run of our primary app occupies 1400 cores (700 real cores?) for several hours. So, I might estimate that that'd cost something like $200 per run. Not negligible, given that the hardware cost is already partly sunk. Like I said, I know this isn't Google's goal necessarily, but it

[google-appengine] Re: Disappointed with free quota changes (probably not surprising)

2009-02-25 Thread Brandon Thomson
I agree except for the part about DOS attacks. As far as I can tell they will just cost you a lot of money unless you actively detect and block them, and even then there could be cost involved. On Feb 25, 4:24 pm, Greg g.fawc...@gmail.com wrote: My feeling is that many people see GAE as

[google-appengine] Re: Sporadic Unicode error in POST queries

2009-02-25 Thread lenza
Hey Brian, I am trying to deal with a similar situation in my app. I would love it if someone offered a good general solution for dealing with unexpected non-UTF-8 data in a string. There must be a way because my web browsers can display the data without crashing! =) The admittedly poor

[google-appengine] Re: Urlfetch returns 400 error on production but not on dev

2009-02-25 Thread lenza
How many URLs are you fetching. It could be that you are running out of time on the appengine where each request is limited to 30 seconds. What do you see in the appengine logs? Lenza blog.lenza.org On Feb 25, 10:04 am, mmauctiva mmann...@auctiva.com wrote: I have an app that loops over a

[google-appengine] Re: Sporadic Unicode error in POST queries

2009-02-25 Thread Jarek Zgoda
If the data comes from any form in your application, you can force encoding of form data using accept-charset attribute of form element (see http://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_form_accept_charset.asp). On 25 Lut, 22:17, Brian bsmcconn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. I have observed a sporadic Unicode

[google-appengine] Re: Disappointed with free quota changes (probably not surprising)

2009-02-25 Thread peterk
The last official word on DOS attacks, from Marzia Niccolai, back in September last year: On the broader issue of denial-of-service attacks, these are an unfortunate reality in the web world. While we don't currently offer applications any specific protections against attacks of this nature,

[google-appengine] Re: Sporadic Unicode error in POST queries

2009-02-25 Thread Jarek Zgoda
This will not work as expected, for many reasons. The line value = unicode(value) will break with UnicodeEncodeError (not Decode) if the value is unicode object and value contains characters from outside ASCII range. The line unicode(str(value).encode('string_escape')) can be translated to

[google-appengine] New App - wikiaata

2009-02-25 Thread indra
Hello everyone, Play the wikipedia game at http://www.wikiaata.com The app is powered by AppEngine and GWT was used for building the UI. Any feedback is very welcome. Cheers. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[google-appengine] Should I migrate to App Engine?

2009-02-25 Thread Wiiboy
Hi everyone, I've got a site right now that I plan to have coded all in Python (and Javascript, Css, etc.), hosted on a shared hosting account. It hasn't been released yet (it's not even finished), so should I migrate it to App Engine? As far as I know, I won't come close to the free quotas, so

[google-appengine] load test

2009-02-25 Thread pedepy
hey all. Although my app is far from complete, I thought Id do a little early 'load testing' to see what it would look like. I had noticed awful big cpu usage times, usually anywhere between 1100ms to 5000ms on my / page ! ... After some memcaching (I had absolutely none before that), I was able

[google-appengine] Re: Should I migrate to App Engine?

2009-02-25 Thread GregF
Depends on the site. If it is likely to hit the big time, GAE will repay the pain of redeveloping (getting used to the datastore, mainly) many times over. And if you aren't a sysadmin, GAE will let you sleep at night. If it does crash (and I'm sure it will, occasionally) you can sit back and let

[google-appengine] Re: Excessively variable response times, regardless of serving status

2009-02-25 Thread Nick Winter
Thanks for following through on this, Marzia! That makes a lot more sense. I really appreciate the diagnosis; you rock! bFlood, I think the only reason that handler is getting mauled is because of the 1200ms+ startup costs for initializing a new instance. Because it's the same handler, the

[google-appengine] timestamp woe

2009-02-25 Thread Jillian
how can I compare the time stamp information that's stored as a string with a timestamp that's a datetime object stored through app engine? timestring = self.request.get('timestamp') timestring = timestring[0: timestring.find(.)]; timeformat = %Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S newtime =

[google-appengine] Server Error woes

2009-02-25 Thread iDavid
I'm getting a Server Error message from the dashboard, when I go into the Data Viewer and select TiwiNotes (one of my data entities). I've had the data in the data store for a couple of months. I just purchased the pay for higher quotas, and was getting ready to run another benchmark by deleting

[google-appengine] Re: Testing Datastore without SDK

2009-02-25 Thread Gary Davis
I have also written a little about testing techniques for the Google App Engine. My stuff is not finished yet, but it may be of some help. http://code.google.com/p/gawsh/wiki/TestingAppComponents http://code.google.com/p/gawsh/wiki/TestingTechniques If that helps, please let me know. If you

[google-appengine] Re: Disappointed with free quota changes (probably not surprising)

2009-02-25 Thread Josh Cronemeyer
I'm not saying you shouldn't be complainin, because lots of us were surprised by the new official quota numbers and the new accounting, but I will say that you certainly undertook a big risk by investing in a technology as new and raw as app engine. Given the limitations and concerns in your

[google-appengine] Re: Disappointed with free quota changes (probably not surprising)

2009-02-25 Thread B.J.
Agreed. As I said, Shame on me. On Feb 25, 10:27 pm, Josh Cronemeyer joshuacroneme...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not saying you shouldn't be complainin, because lots of us were surprised by the new official quota numbers and the new accounting, but I will say that you certainly undertook a big

[google-appengine] Re: usage billing and multiple deployment

2009-02-25 Thread gops
well not exactly what i was looking for ... but cool enough. to note.. http://code.google.com/appengine/articles/hooks.html On Feb 24, 5:51 pm, gops patelgo...@gmail.com wrote: i really like it , if google group allow to edit post within 30 minutes of its posting...so that we can correct

[google-appengine] Re: Should I migrate to App Engine?

2009-02-25 Thread Wiiboy
Huh. You sound like my Google-hating dad, saying, 'I drink the Google kool-aid'. But I'm not using my own servers. I'm hosting with another company (called Lunarpages). There isn't much code to convert, and, for safety, I'd probably try to keep up a standard-python copy, just in case. One big

[google-appengine] Re: How about DOS attack?

2009-02-25 Thread Jumang
This a big problem! You have to think about the risk if you use it in your business. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to