[google-appengine] Re: Instances restart on reaching maximum number of requests

2017-10-16 Thread Fredrik Bertin Fjeld
With regarding to the experienced logging message stating: "After handling this request, the process that handled this request reached the maximum number of requests that may be handled in a single process' lifetime, and exited normally." See my comment in this thread:

[google-appengine] Re: Instances restart on reaching maximum number of requests

2016-08-08 Thread Iliya Novikov
Thanks for your replies, Adam and Marcel, After a few days of experimenting with settings for the automatic scaling all of a sudden the warm-up requests started to work for us. This is something I can't really explain. My guess is that this has changed after I set up some non-zero

[google-appengine] Re: Instances restart on reaching maximum number of requests

2016-08-01 Thread Marcel Manz
Hi I second Adam's suggestion to use manual scaling in order to not run into any latency issues. We're running on manual scaling for several years now and this proved the only scaling method guaranteeing no latency issues. Eg. when we tried with basic-scaling, we discovered that: 1. There is

[google-appengine] Re: Instances restart on reaching maximum number of requests

2016-07-22 Thread 'Adam (Cloud Platform Support)' via Google App Engine
Since by your account the module hovers at about 8 instances which all get proactively restarted at the same time, this suggests that scaling doesn't happen gradually and that the load on that module is fairly constant. Keeping a minimum number of idle instances will help with latency spikes

[google-appengine] Re: Instances restart on reaching maximum number of requests

2016-07-19 Thread Iliya Novikov
Sure. We use Java, here is the content of appengine-web.xml: F2 0 6 60ms 120ms true true On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 7:39:25 PM UTC+2, Adam (Cloud Platform Support) wrote: > > Would you mind posting the details from your app.yaml? > > On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 11:37:29 AM UTC-4, Iliya

[google-appengine] Re: Instances restart on reaching maximum number of requests

2016-07-18 Thread Martin Öjes
Documentation mention that behavior like so: > "If warmup requests are enabled for your application, App Engine attempts > to detect when your application needs a new instance and initiates a warmup > request to initialize a new instance. However, these detection attempts do > not work in

[google-appengine] Re: Instances restart on reaching maximum number of requests

2016-07-18 Thread 'Adam (Cloud Platform Support)' via Google App Engine
Would you mind posting the details from your app.yaml? On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 11:37:29 AM UTC-4, Iliya Novikov wrote: > > Thanks for reply, Martin. I checked with the documentation and according > to it we have warmup requests configured correctly. Though it reminded me > of one thing. I

[google-appengine] Re: Instances restart on reaching maximum number of requests

2016-07-18 Thread Iliya Novikov
Thanks for reply, Martin. I checked with the documentation and according to it we have warmup requests configured correctly. Though it reminded me of one thing. I have never seen a warmup request sent to a running App Engine application. I can see them only when I deploy a new version. It seems

[google-appengine] Re: Instances restart on reaching maximum number of requests

2016-07-18 Thread Martin Öjes
We have experienced the same problem. It seems that Google changed the way GAE handles Warmup requests. We solved our issues by adding a warmup request handler to app.yaml and a small script just echoing an OK message. The updated documentation page (for PHP runtime), with a working example:

[google-appengine] Re: instances are spinning - how to specify fixed instances.

2015-08-14 Thread Nick (Cloud Platform Support)
Hi Rajesh, This is a specific technical question, not a general discussion of the platform / services and so is off-topic for this forum. It would be better for you to post this question to stackoverflow http://stackoverflow.com. Not only will it be on-topic there, but there are a lot more

Re: [google-appengine] Re: instances are spinning - how to specify fixed instances.

2015-08-14 Thread 'Alex Martelli' via Google App Engine
As a general tip, don't specify *both* kinds of parameters to automatic scaling: the ones trying to reduce costs (max_idle_instances, min_pending_latency) *and* the ones trying to reduce latency/improve scalability (min_idle_instances, max_pending_latency). We'll have a future blog post about that

[google-appengine] Re: instances are spinning - how to specify fixed instances.

2015-08-14 Thread Rajesh Gupta
I have the following in the appengine-web.xml instance-classF1/instance-class automatic-scaling min-idle-instances2/min-idle-instances max-idle-instances2/max-idle-instances min-pending-latency10s/min-pending-latency max-pending-latency10s/max-pending-latency /automatic-scaling

[google-appengine] Re: Instances/Java go crazy

2013-10-11 Thread Jorge Amat
Still having these same issues nowadays, this is outrageous. El lunes, 30 de julio de 2012 16:47:00 UTC+1, Mos escribió: Anyone else seeing issue with GAE instance management? In one minute - 10 requests - around 5 instances are started. Old ones do not response. New instances are created

[google-appengine] Re: Instances/Java go crazy

2013-10-11 Thread Jorge Amat
Sometimes it has happened to me that when I set the min idle instance to 1, after some minutes it's again set as automatic.without any consent. Other thing I have tried is to pause the defauls task queue, since suddently starts to make a lot of requests, however doesn't look to be the solution

[google-appengine] Re: Instances are terminated and restarted every few hours without errors!

2013-07-03 Thread timh
What class of front end instance are you running. You memory use looks high for a standard front end. T On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 4:55:11 PM UTC+8, Stefano Ciccarelli wrote: I want to add another screenshot: - why some instances are restarted every few hours? - why the resident instance is

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances are terminated and restarted every few hours without errors!

2013-07-03 Thread Stefano Ciccarelli
I'm using F1 and I never had a memory problem, as far as I know, all memory intensive operations are handled by B2 backends because I had memory soft limit errors that killed instances. But this is not the case, I think. 2013/7/3 timh zutes...@gmail.com What class of front end instance are

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances are terminated and restarted every few hours without errors!

2013-07-03 Thread timh
I would double check that, each of the 3 new instances are all over 150MB, which is usually where problems start. An F1 instance memory limit from the docs is F1 (default)128MB On Wednesday, July 3, 2013 6:33:19 PM UTC+8, Stefano Ciccarelli wrote: I'm using F1 and I never had a memory

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances are terminated and restarted every few hours without errors!

2013-07-03 Thread Stefano Ciccarelli
Ok, as suggested, I've configured the app to use F2 instances, I've shutdown all the existing instances to let them to upgrade to F2. As stated in the attached screenshot, besides doubling my costs, I've had the same problem. Other ideas? [image: Immagine in linea 1] 2013/7/3 timh

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances are terminated and restarted every few hours without errors!

2013-07-03 Thread Rafael
Ciao Stefano, This is happening a lot to me this week too: Appengine is highly unreliable for my app. Specially this week. Things like this are happening all the time: http://cl.ly/image/321F2o2o071P http://cl.ly/image/1O1y3i2l3u3Y This is just an example of problem that happened while I was

[google-appengine] Re: Instances trying to start and failing.

2013-06-26 Thread Bart Jenkins
I'm having the same problems. GAE is non-functional for me right now. On Tuesday, June 25, 2013 7:06:49 AM UTC-4, aswath wrote: Hello Appengine Team, http://accountingguru-india.appspot.com customers are facing the latency issues, and are not able to login to the application. Logs show

[google-appengine] Re: Instances trying to start and failing.

2013-06-26 Thread Egolike
We are experiencing this same issue right now, every petition sent to the server hosted in appengine is being thrown back with that error. Could anyone explain why this happens? We have been working fine until yesterday... On Tuesday, June 25, 2013 1:06:49 PM UTC+2, aswath wrote: Hello

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances trying to start and failing.

2013-06-26 Thread Vinny P
+1, Also seeing multiple instance restarts and instance recycling taking place on my end. - -Vinny P Technology Media Advisor Chicago, IL App Engine Code Samples: http://www.learntogoogleit.com On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 3:31 AM, Egolike sys...@egolike.com wrote: We are

[google-appengine] Re: Instances trying to start and failing.

2013-06-25 Thread Aswath Satrasala
Datastore Errors: 2013-06-25 16:55:32.342 http://www.accounting-guru.net/tenantmgr/listTenant javax.servlet.ServletException: com.google.appengine.api.datastore.DatastoreFailureException: internal error. at

[google-appengine] Re: instances dying is a permanent states for datastore apps?

2013-04-01 Thread John V Denley
My Application has been charged TEN TIMES as much every week since mid february. I have changed NOTHING and I have NO extra customers and NO extra traffic everything has been stable apart from the fact that my CPU times have dramatically increased since we started having these instance

Re: [google-appengine] Re: instances dying is a permanent states for datastore apps?

2013-04-01 Thread Rafael
Hi John, Migrating my app to HDR has solved most of the issues! I would highly recommend to migrate yours ASAP. The whole migration process was waaay easier than expected. Due to the fact that the old blobKeys are now alias to the new ones. thanks rafa On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 2:34 AM, John V

Re: [google-appengine] Re: instances dying is a permanent states for datastore apps?

2013-04-01 Thread John V Denley
Thanks Rafa (is this what you have been doing since you vanished from the tennis scene!! LOL ) I was actually trying to migrate to HRD yesterday, the only trouble is I wanted to migrate my current M/S appid (idebanet) over to an new appid (diarybooker) that I already own, the problem is that

Re: [google-appengine] Re: instances dying is a permanent states for datastore apps?

2013-04-01 Thread Cesium
Dearest Rafael, You are living in a dream world if you think migrating to HRD will stop instances from dying prematurely. This is not a criticism! Purposeful rejection of reality will save you! Do not apply reason to the instance scheduler! Here, we call it a faith-based scheduler. Have you

Re: [google-appengine] Re: instances dying is a permanent states for datastore apps?

2013-04-01 Thread Carl Schroeder
Ever since I ported our app to Go, we have had no trouble with the scheduler aggressively recycling dynamic Java instances (because we have none). This may be due to the Go runtime depending on Mermaids instead of Unicorns and Skittles like the Java stack. On Monday, April 1, 2013 5:58:05 AM

Re: [google-appengine] Re: instances dying is a permanent states for datastore apps?

2013-04-01 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
FWIW, it's probably unwise to feel so strongly about your appid. You have your own domain, there's no reason for anyone to see the *.appspot.com. Just use diarybooker-hrd. There may actually be some advantage in an obscure appid; unless you've built in precautions or have unguessable version

Re: [google-appengine] Re: instances dying is a permanent states for datastore apps?

2013-04-01 Thread John V Denley
Good idea Jeff, never considered that. The only real reason I wanted to use it, is because there have been times in the past when I have needed to direct my customers direct to the appspot url and its always a bit embarrassing to send them to my old idebanet account as its just confusing! one

Re: [google-appengine] Re: instances dying is a permanent states for datastore apps?

2013-03-15 Thread Alpha Scorpii
by the way... i wonder why you are spending 40k a yearit doesn't seems your site got that much visitor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [google-appengine] Re: instances dying is a permanent states for datastore apps?

2013-03-14 Thread Stuart Langley
Rafael: Here's the notice: http://googleappengine.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/masterslave-datastore-thanks-for-all.html TOS for deprecation: https://developers.google.com/appengine/terms#Deprecation M/S will be turned off 20th April, 2015. On Thursday, 14 March 2013 15:11:45 UTC+11, Rafael

Re: [google-appengine] Re: instances dying is a permanent states for datastore apps?

2013-03-14 Thread Rafael
Stuart, The service and it's issues are getting worst and worst as we speak: http://cl.ly/image/2t1y2O2S2U1h (68 dying instances, just starting up by coincidence) Can you please give us a word about the issues? Is this going to be happening on a constant basis? Is it only M/S affected? By 2015

Re: [google-appengine] Re: instances dying is a permanent states for datastore apps?

2013-03-14 Thread Alpha Scorpii
seeing from your screen capture that the memory usage seems so high... perhaps an new instance is started when there is no memory left to serve a new request? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To unsubscribe from this group

Re: [google-appengine] Re: instances dying is a permanent states for datastore apps?

2013-03-13 Thread timh
Are you running M/S ? I just had a look at a different app I have access to on M/S (has large numbers of users) and it appears to be cycling instances fast, and long startup times. T On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 3:58:22 PM UTC+8, Rafael Sanches wrote: You are living the dream my brother.

Re: [google-appengine] Re: instances dying is a permanent states for datastore apps?

2013-03-13 Thread Cesium
You read the previous posts on this right? You are complaining about instances lasting an hour? I'd sacrifice my prize unicorn to get that! When service goes pear shaped, instances last seconds! Yes. This behavior will change. No. You can't predict when the change will occur. No. There's

Re: [google-appengine] Re: instances dying is a permanent states for datastore apps?

2013-03-13 Thread johnP
Barry - If you look through this message board and at the issue tracker, you'll see that many people with HRD are also affected by this issue. As often is the case, the big problem is not the crime - it's the cover-up. Everyone here can understand technical issues, if people are working to

Re: [google-appengine] Re: instances dying is a permanent states for datastore apps?

2013-03-13 Thread johnP
Or even if Google says that there is not a technical issue; that there have been internal tweaks to the scheduler that make instances that (in my case) would happily serve for days or weeks to now serve for less than 10-15 minutes (during a good part of the day); and that we should do a, b,

Re: [google-appengine] Re: instances dying is a permanent states for datastore apps?

2013-03-13 Thread johnP
That's you projecting your hopes, that someone is calmly fixing the problem. But one of the attributes of competent leadership is effective communication. When customers see that effective communication is lacking, they a symptom of poor leadership. If appengine has poor leadership, this

Re: [google-appengine] Re: instances dying is a permanent states for datastore apps?

2013-03-13 Thread Rafael
This is my biggest concern. I don't care about technical problems, I care about shipping high quality products. That was the reason why we picked appengine 2 years ago. The problem is that the service isn't working well and we can't predict for how long. We need to have any insight on how long

Re: [google-appengine] Re: instances dying is a permanent states for datastore apps?

2013-03-13 Thread Barry Hunter
I believe it would be less work to move out of appengine rather than moving to HDR. You will have to do one or the other soon anyway. M/S will be turned off. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To unsubscribe from this group

[google-appengine] Re: instances dying is a permanent states for datastore apps?

2013-03-13 Thread stevep
I am uncertain about GAE given recent history, but have hope. Certainly given MS is deprecated, we cannot hold G. accountable for issues there. They **clearly** recommend HR, so MS app are 100% caveat emptor. However, the SO and Google Groups threads recently have been consumed with ire not

[google-appengine] Re: instances dying is a permanent states for datastore apps?

2013-03-12 Thread timh
Do you have billing enabled ? idle instance can be shut down at any point where their count is above min idle. What sort of settings are you running ? I have a low traffic site with billing usually 1 or 2 reserved instances (depending on the time of the week.) All content is dynamic (though

Re: [google-appengine] Re: instances dying is a permanent states for datastore apps?

2013-03-12 Thread Rafael
Yes, I have a lot of traffic. Out of nothing the instances die and new ones come up. Check out this screenshot: http://cl.ly/image/3e1W1a1d0V3A Please, see that some instances are up for more than an hour and a half. Although, many new ones are spawned. You're running on HDR? The may be related

[google-appengine] Re: instances dying is a permanent states for datastore apps?

2013-03-12 Thread stevep
Quite some time ago I started a thread about instances for my paid app shutting down quickly (almost immediately). Same issue I believe. Perhaps it is working differently now, but I would be hesitant to conclude that this will stop occurring once billing is activated. It seems quite variable,

[google-appengine] Re: instances dying is a permanent states for datastore apps?

2013-03-12 Thread Vinny P
Can you screenshot an AppStats profile view of a sample request? -Vinny On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 12:23:35 AM UTC-5, Rafael Sanches wrote: Hello, I have the application yumyumlabs and all of my users are complaining about slowness or broken connections. To my surprise I went to the

Re: [google-appengine] Re: instances dying is a permanent states for datastore apps?

2013-03-12 Thread timh
Hi I am using HRD and usually my resident instances are many days old, however today I have one resident instance 2 hours old, 1 dynamic instance 2 hours old, and a dynamic instance 1.5 days old ;-) T On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 6:06:15 PM UTC+8, Rafael Sanches wrote: Yes, I have a lot of

[google-appengine] Re: Instances keep shutting down

2013-03-05 Thread vlad
Star this issue http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=8931 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[google-appengine] Re: Instances keep shutting down

2013-03-05 Thread Cesium
And never, ever, feed your unicorns Starburst candy. David On Tuesday, March 5, 2013 4:12:08 PM UTC-7, vlad wrote: Star this issue  http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=8931 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine

[google-appengine] Re: Instances still getting killed and causing user 500's

2013-03-04 Thread Cesium
To paraphrase johnP, This afternoon is a serving train-wreck. My poor unicorns' tongues are raw from gorging on Sour Skittles(tm). David On Friday, March 1, 2013 7:32:29 PM UTC-7, Cesium wrote: I'm sure you noticed the question on this forum that Takashi did respond to. On Friday,

[google-appengine] Re: Instances keep shutting down

2013-03-04 Thread johnP
Just watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vuW6tQ0218 Whenever you hear Dead Parrot, in your mind think Dead Instance. It is a very accurate representation of Google's response to this issue to date. On Monday, March 4, 2013 4:35:32 PM UTC-8, Kiran Nanisetti wrote: My app id is

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances still getting killed and causing user 500's

2013-03-01 Thread Mos
Hello Takashi, any feedback for us? Cheers Mos On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Mos mosa...@googlemail.com wrote: Trust me; Google has no clue what's going on. The instance scheduler went crazy, people have downtimes and have increased billing (for weeks!) If Google would be able to track

[google-appengine] Re: Instances still getting killed and causing user 500's

2013-03-01 Thread Michael Hermus
I have sacrificed several unicorns and prayed fervently to the Google Gods, but this morning instances are thrashing badly; living no more than a minute or so. Google really needs to figure out the underlying issue, and also start communicating with their customers more effectively. The

[google-appengine] Re: Instances still getting killed and causing user 500's

2013-03-01 Thread johnP
This morning is a serving train-wreck here, too. On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:50:47 AM UTC-8, Kinesh Patel wrote: On Python 2.7 paid app. Setting an idle instance seems to mitigate this, but every time a new dynamic instance is spawned or hit i get this problem. Definitely not

[google-appengine] Re: Instances still getting killed and causing user 500's

2013-03-01 Thread Carl Schroeder
I am porting to Go. Then I care much less about the instance scheduler committing unicorn genocide. Almost done. RIP GAE/J, thanks for wasting my dev time replacing you! On Friday, March 1, 2013 9:28:13 AM UTC-8, johnP wrote: This morning is a serving train-wreck here, too. On

[google-appengine] Re: Instances still getting killed and causing user 500's

2013-03-01 Thread Cesium
I'm sure you noticed the question on this forum that Takashi did respond to. On Friday, March 1, 2013 11:47:21 AM UTC-7, Carl Schroeder wrote: I am porting to Go. Then I care much less about the instance scheduler committing unicorn genocide. Almost done.  RIP GAE/J, thanks for wasting

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances still getting killed and causing user 500's

2013-02-28 Thread Mos
Trust me; Google has no clue what's going on. The instance scheduler went crazy, people have downtimes and have increased billing (for weeks!) If Google would be able to track the problem (or would have a clue how to fix it), they would give a comment. As I wrote. That's not the first time. Last

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances still getting killed and causing user 500's

2013-02-28 Thread Thiago Catoto
+1 to Mos Trust me; Google has no clue what's going on. The instance scheduler went crazy, people have downtimes and have increased billing (for weeks!) If Google would be able to track the problem (or would have a clue how to fix it), they would give a comment. As I wrote. That's not the first

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances still getting killed and causing user 500's

2013-02-28 Thread Cesium
Mos makes some good points and states them clearly. However, my idea of Faith Based Scheduler Maintenance seems to be yielding pretty good results. David On Thursday, February 28, 2013 5:06:00 AM UTC-7, Mos wrote: Trust me; Google has no clue what's going on. The instance scheduler went

[google-appengine] Re: Instances still getting killed and causing user 500's

2013-02-27 Thread Cesium
Starting about 16:30 Pacific time, my Java HRD Instances were shutting down after just a few seconds. Just as my rage reached class IV, serving returned to normal. I know this is an overreaction, but I may have to sacrifice a unicorn. Please, please, App Engine team, spare Mr. Sparkles.

[google-appengine] Re: Instances still getting killed and causing user 500's

2013-02-27 Thread Cesium
Oh Joy, Now the console charts have been erased. I'm losing it. Unicorn liver pate for dinner. David On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:10:37 PM UTC-7, Cesium wrote: Starting about 16:30 Pacific time, my Java HRD Instances were shutting down after just a few seconds. Just as my rage

[google-appengine] Re: Instances still getting killed and causing user 500's

2013-02-27 Thread Cesium
A couple hours later, all is well. Instances are lasting. Latency is low. Thank you Mr. Sparkles. (burp). On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 6:45:50 PM UTC-7, Cesium wrote: Oh Joy, Now the console charts have been erased. I'm losing it. Unicorn liver pate for dinner. David On

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances still getting killed and causing user 500's

2013-02-27 Thread Prashant Hegde
Many apps are hitting the same issue, starring the following may increase chances of getting resolution. The app engine performance is unpredictable. Right now, as far as we are concerned, the most effective solution is to offer prayers very sincerely every morning.

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances/Java go crazy

2012-08-21 Thread Mos
Hi Jeff, thanks for the feedback! This looks like a startup request that is taking too long - is that the issue? No, not really. It's an instance that is already up. It happens suddenly from time to time. Please check (and star) http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=7982

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances/Java go crazy

2012-08-20 Thread Barry Hunter
There are other data storage technologies that are optimized for rapid updates to atomic data. Redis, Mongo, and of course traditional RDBMSes solve this problem pretty easily for most typical scaling needs. There isn't an equivalent tool in the GAE toolbox. CloudSQL. That is a

[google-appengine] Re: Instances/Java go crazy

2012-08-20 Thread Mos
The last two days the instances kept unstable. Today I kill all instances hopping this helps. But 3 instances spanned up again and now every second request to the application fails with the known GAE problem: com.google.apphosting.api.DeadlineExceededException: This request (9706ce3068c95802)

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances/Java go crazy

2012-08-20 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Barry Hunter barrybhun...@gmail.com wrote: CloudSQL. That is a 'traditional RDBMS' :) https://developers.google.com/cloud-sql/ Except as we've experimentally seen when testing Richard's game, Cloud SQL has significant per-instance throughput limits. I don't

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances/Java go crazy

2012-08-20 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
Is that the full stacktrace?!? Jeff On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Mos mosa...@googlemail.com wrote: The last two days the instances kept unstable. Today I kill all instances hopping this helps. But 3 instances spanned up again and now every second request to the application fails with the

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances/Java go crazy

2012-08-20 Thread Mos
Is that the full stacktrace?!? No, here is one example: com.google.apphosting.api.DeadlineExceededException: This request (681ae7cef438e16b) started at 2012/08/20 16:30:31.376 UTC and was still executing at 2012/08/20 16:31:30.903 UTC. at

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances/Java go crazy

2012-08-20 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
This looks like a startup request that is taking too long - is that the issue? If so, it could be yet another blip in startup times - as I (and others) have complained many times in the past, there seems to be a lot of variance in startup times. 20s today could be 60s deadline failures tomorrow.

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances/Java go crazy

2012-08-20 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
Oh, and if you haven't already, star these issues: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=7706 http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=7865 Jeff Random not-so-amusing anecdote: My app, voo.st, is also down right now - not because of appengine, but because

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances/Java go crazy

2012-08-20 Thread Joakim
As a Spring user on GAE, the best thing I've done is disable the annotation driven context:component-scan. It's a hassle migrating everything from @Component and @Autowired to bean class=x.y.Z.../bean, but now Spring's FrameworkServlet initializes in 15 seconds including Objectify instead of

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances/Java go crazy

2012-08-19 Thread alex
@pphalen just remember, you're reading replies from other developers, which are often biased (e.g. to a specific programming language) or coming from a different background; others wear mermaid costume; etc. For instance, Nothing in the datastore can change faster than once per second; is

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances/Java go crazy

2012-08-19 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 4:47 AM, alex a...@cloudware.it wrote: Nothing in the datastore can change faster than once per second; is true only in case of a single entity group. So, you're better off reading official docs. Perhaps I wasn't clear enough - that's my entire point. No _single

[google-appengine] Re: Instances/Java go crazy

2012-08-18 Thread Mos
Add again. The last 48 hours the scheduler creates and closes instances without reason (traffic as usual, no software updates, no special tasks) That's definitely not a WorkAsIntended issue! As a result instance hours go up and we have to pay again for GAE's fault. Great business-model: Let

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances/Java go crazy

2012-08-18 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
Have you set the _min_ idle instances to something other than automatic? This setting seems to be especially catastrophic for a low-traffic app. Jeff On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 8:56 AM, Mos mosa...@googlemail.com wrote: Add again. The last 48 hours the scheduler creates and closes instances

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances/Java go crazy

2012-08-18 Thread Mos
Hi Jeff, min-idle instance is on automatic. Max is on two. There is at least one request per minute for my low-traffic app, From my perspective a very straight-forward application that shouldn't have any problems on GAE. (Check: http://www.krisentalk.de/ if you can speak German. ;) ) I'm

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances/Java go crazy

2012-08-18 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Mos mosa...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm surprised that you are still go with GAE for new applications? You had your own experiences from what I saw on this list. ;) I'm not recommending GAE anymore. I tell my customer to go with other platforms. After one year

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances/Java go crazy

2012-08-18 Thread Mos
Someday when I have more time I might write a short GAE Survival Guide and sell it for a few bucks as an ebook. That's seems to be a good motivation to invest so much time in GAE issues. ;) I would had bought the book one year ago On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:19 PM, Jeff Schnitzer

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances/Java go crazy

2012-08-18 Thread pphalen
Apps with a lot of rapidly mutating aggregation are hard. Hi, I'm new to app engine, so this is news to me. Could you please characterize a bit more? E.g., what is a lot? On Saturday, August 18, 2012 1:19:51 PM UTC-7, Jeff Schnitzer wrote: On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 2:21 PM, Mos

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances/Java go crazy

2012-08-18 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 8:59 PM, pphalen patrick.pha...@gmail.com wrote: Apps with a lot of rapidly mutating aggregation are hard. Hi, I'm new to app engine, so this is news to me. Could you please characterize a bit more? E.g., what is a lot? Nothing in the datastore can change faster than

RE: [google-appengine] Re: Instances/Java go crazy

2012-08-05 Thread Drake
Subject: [google-appengine] Re: Instances/Java go crazy Again a not very reliable GAE month: Pingdom July Uptime Downtime Outages Response time 99.90% 0h 43m 35s 27 466 ms On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Mos

[google-appengine] Re: Instances/Java go crazy

2012-08-04 Thread Mos
Again a not very reliable GAE month: Pingdom July Uptime DowntimeOutages Response time 99.90% 0h 43m 35s 27 466 ms On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Mos mosa...@googlemail.com wrote: And again I have to pay for GAE issues: On Jul 30 the Frontend Instance

[google-appengine] Re: Instances/Java go crazy

2012-08-01 Thread Mos
And again I have to pay for GAE issues: On Jul 30 the Frontend Instance Hours goes beyond the free limit. First time this week in my application history. Remember: The application was unusable on this day because GAE starts instances like crazy (on low traffic). Frontent Instance Hours were

[google-appengine] Re: Instances - How do they work?

2011-11-22 Thread Anand Mistry
On Monday, 21 November 2011 10:25:34 UTC-8, WallyDD wrote: I am little confused with how these instances work. How long does an instance stay alive? A site in Python 2.5 (M/S) fires up an instance when it is accessed and the instance stays alive for minutes after. With Python 2.7(HRD) the

[google-appengine] Re: Instances - How do they work?

2011-11-22 Thread WallyDD
Hi Anand, Thank you for the response. I am not concerned with being charged for the full 15 minutes for when instances start and stop (or as you described), what I am concerned with is the start-up time it takes each time an instance is fired up. A browsing session while testing looks something

RE: [google-appengine] Re: Instances - How do they work?

2011-11-22 Thread Brandon Wirtz
this is entirely manageable. -Original Message- From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of WallyDD Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:26 PM To: Google App Engine Subject: [google-appengine] Re: Instances - How do they work? Hi Anand, Thank you

[google-appengine] Re: Instances - How do they work?

2011-11-21 Thread WallyDD
I have logged this as two separate issues; http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=6391 http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=6390 On Nov 21, 1:25 pm, WallyDD shaneb...@gmail.com wrote: I am little confused with how these instances work. How long does

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances + Memcache + Users

2011-09-12 Thread Robert Kluin
Hey Simon, I know it is documented on the backends page: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/backends/overview.html#Properties_of_Backends I'm not sure it is documented anywhere else. They are aligning the front-end instances with the most low-end backend instance:

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances + Memcache + Users

2011-09-09 Thread Waleed Abdulla
There is a function, get_stats(), that gives you some data about your memcache usage, including the total size of stored data. You might want to run a test by starting as much as you can in memcache while watching the total stored data and when that hits a ceiling, you'll know how much is

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances + Memcache + Users

2011-09-09 Thread Simon Knott
Robert, where did you get the 128MB limit from? Is this limit only in effect when the new billing comes in? I noticed in the recent IRC chat log that Ikai mentioned that they had noticed more applications hitting a 180MB soft limit, reduced from 200MB, with a 300MB hard limit. -- You

[google-appengine] Re: Instances + Memcache + Users

2011-09-08 Thread jay
Oh, I just read that memcache is constant across instances. On Sep 9, 12:43 pm, jay kyburz@gmail.com wrote: Quick question, In my app users do work on some data. Every action they do I have to pull the data out of the datastore, unpickle it, do the transform, pickle it again and put it

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances + Memcache + Users

2011-09-08 Thread Robert Kluin
Hi Jay, Correct, memcache is global to your app. The same user's requests could go to any of your instances. So caching user datain local memory is probably not worth it. Robert On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 21:51, jay kyburz@gmail.com wrote: Oh, I just read that memcache is constant

[google-appengine] Re: Instances + Memcache + Users

2011-09-08 Thread jay
do we know how big the memcache is? It would be good to know roughly how much data we can jam in there. On Sep 9, 3:26 pm, Robert Kluin robert.kl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jay,   Correct, memcache is global to your app.  The same user's requests could go to any of your instances.  So caching user

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances

2011-05-04 Thread Eduardo Perrino
Hi Robert, After all, thank you for your recomendation of use Appstats. I'm going to use it. Undeploy application doesn't mean lose an instance because I see a lots of loading request in my logs. We've developed a warm up servlet to start up the application into dynamic instances when I've

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances

2011-05-04 Thread Robert Kluin
Hey Eduardo, Do you see lots of errors or warning messages in your logs? Specifically about the instance being killed? Robert On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 02:18, Eduardo Perrino eduardo.perr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Robert, After all, thank you for your recomendation of use Appstats. I'm going

[google-appengine] Re: Instances

2011-05-03 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On May 3, 11:55 am, Eduardo Perrino eduardo.perr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Robert, I try to explain better: Our application has 16 instances assigned by appengine automatically and three of them are always on. It doesn't have many requests, in fact, the time between them is large enough to

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances

2011-05-03 Thread Eduardo Perrino
2011/5/3 Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com On May 3, 11:55 am, Eduardo Perrino eduardo.perr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Robert, I try to explain better: Our application has 16 instances assigned by appengine automatically and three of them are always on. It doesn't have many requests,

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Instances

2011-05-03 Thread Robert Kluin
Hi Eduardo, It sounds like you might benefit from using Appstats. I've heard Java apps tend to have large startup times. However, from what you're describing it sounds like your app is getting new instances spun up (16 in total) but it is not serving requests quickly enough. At least if I

[google-appengine] Re: Instances, cold start and pending_ms

2010-10-27 Thread Matija
Can anybody else explain me this pending_ms information especially for task with cold start and how it is related to average latency ? If it is somewhere explained could you provide me with links to it ?! I remember times (two years ago) where group discussions were much more dynamic and you

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