Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-ARIMA 64bits

2015-07-31 Thread Jack
On Fri, 31 Jul 2015, Carlos Andrade wrote: > Hello Gretl users, > > I installed the 1.9.92 version of Gretl Linux x86_64 in Debian 8 AMD64. > Where do I find the x86_64 version of X-12-ARIMA for Gretl 1.9.92? It's quite easy, actually: * download https://www.census.gov/ts/x13as/unix/x13assrc_V1

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-ARIMA 64bits

2015-07-31 Thread Carlos Andrade
Thanks Riccardo Lucchetti, worked. 2015-07-31 13:50 GMT-03:00 Riccardo (Jack) Lucchetti : > On Fri, 31 Jul 2015, Carlos Andrade wrote: > > Hello Gretl users, >> >> I installed the 1.9.92 version of Gretl Linux x86_64 in Debian 8 AMD64. >> Where do I find the x86_64 version of X-12-ARIMA for Gre

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-ARIMA 64bits

2015-07-31 Thread Allin Cottrell
On Fri, 31 Jul 2015, Carlos Andrade wrote: > I installed the 1.9.92 version of Gretl Linux x86_64 in Debian 8 AMD64. > Where do I find the x86_64 version of X-12-ARIMA for Gretl 1.9.92? Try https://sourceforge.net/projects/gretl/files/x12a/ Allin Cottrell

[Gretl-users] X-12-ARIMA 64bits

2015-07-31 Thread Carlos Andrade
Hello Gretl users, I installed the 1.9.92 version of Gretl Linux x86_64 in Debian 8 AMD64. Where do I find the x86_64 version of X-12-ARIMA for Gretl 1.9.92? Thanks. -- Atenciosamente, Prof. Carlos A. S. de Andrade LAPEA - Laboratório de Pesquisa em Economia Aplicada e Engenharia de Produção U

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-ARIMA: GUI vs. Hansl

2014-10-03 Thread henrique . andrade at bb . com . br
osBanco do Brasilhenrique.andr...@bb.com.brTel.: (61) 3102-6911-gretl-users-boun...@lists.wfu.edu escreveu: -Para: Gretl list De: Ignacio Diaz-Emparanza Enviado por: gretl-users-boun...@lists.wfu.eduData: 03/10/2014 05:34Assunto: Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-ARIMA: GUI vs. Hansl On 02/1

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-ARIMA: GUI vs. Hansl

2014-10-03 Thread Ignacio Diaz-Emparanza
On 02/10/14 22:05, henrique.andrade(a)bb.com.br wrote: > Dear Gretl Team, > > Talking about the "deseas" function, Gretl function reference says: > "(...) note that both TRAMO/SEATS and X-12-ARIMA offer numerous > options; deseas calls them with all options at their default settings". > > I tried

[Gretl-users] X-12-ARIMA: GUI vs. Hansl

2014-10-02 Thread henrique . andrade at bb . com . br
Dear Gretl Team,Talking about the "deseas" function, Gretl function reference says: "(...) note that both TRAMO/SEATS and X-12-ARIMA offer numerous options; deseas calls them with all options at their default settings".I tried to replicate using the GUI what the "deseas" function does but I can't

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-ARIMA build 192

2011-10-05 Thread Marcin Błażejowski
Hi Ignacio, on pure Debian testing branch "wheezy" you should install "libgfortran3" package which implements "libgfortran.so.3" library in 4.6.1 version.   On Ubuntu you should install this packagefrom"oneiric"distribution (http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/libgfortran3).   Regards, Marcin      

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-ARIMA build 192

2011-10-05 Thread Ignacio Diaz-Emparanza
El 05/10/11 07:58, Marcin Błażejowski escribió: > Ok, > I've rebuild packages with your patch and put them on website. > > Marcin Marcin, I tried to install the package x12a_0.3-3_amd64.deb from your website (on Ubuntu Linux 10.04) but I obtained an error saying that a version of libgfortran3 >

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-ARIMA build 192

2011-10-05 Thread Marcin Błażejowski
Ok, I've rebuild packages with your patch and put them on website. Marcin W dniu 04.10.2011 21:43, Allin Cottrell pisze: > On Mon, 3 Oct 2011, Marcin Błażejowski wrote: > >> W dniu 03.10.2011 02:18, Allin Cottrell pisze: >>> >>> may be cause for concern. I'll update the gretl-x12a packages once

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-ARIMA build 192

2011-10-04 Thread Allin Cottrell
On Mon, 3 Oct 2011, Marcin Błażejowski wrote: > W dniu 03.10.2011 02:18, Allin Cottrell pisze: >> >> may be cause for concern. I'll update the gretl-x12a packages once I've >> figured out the reasons for the warnings and (hopefully) patched the >> sources to eliminate them. > I've used gfortran

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-ARIMA build 192

2011-10-03 Thread Marcin Błażejowski
W dniu 03.10.2011 02:18, Allin Cottrell pisze: > > may be cause for concern. I'll update the gretl-x12a packages once > I've figured out the reasons for the warnings and (hopefully) patched > the sources to eliminate them. I've used gfortran but - honestly - didn't look at compilation and while

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-ARIMA build 192

2011-10-02 Thread Allin Cottrell
On Sun, 2 Oct 2011, Marcin Błażejowski wrote: > since there is new version of x-12-arima (0.3 build 192) I've build DEB > and RPM packages for AMD64 architecture (with PSP = 24 patch). Files can > be downloaded from: http://wrzosy.dyndns.info/~marcin/x12arima/ > Allin, would you build i386 packa

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-ARIMA build 192

2011-10-02 Thread Pankaj Jagota
tobre 2011 15:22 Oggetto: [Gretl-users] X-12-ARIMA build 192 Hi, since there is new version of x-12-arima (0.3 build 192) I've build DEB and RPM packages for AMD64 architecture (with PSP = 24 patch). Files can be downloaded from: http://wrzosy.dyndns.info/~marcin/x12arima/ Allin, would you

[Gretl-users] X-12-ARIMA build 192

2011-10-02 Thread Marcin Błażejowski
Hi, since there is new version of x-12-arima (0.3 build 192) I've build DEB and RPM packages for AMD64 architecture (with PSP = 24 patch). Files can be downloaded from: http://wrzosy.dyndns.info/~marcin/x12arima/ Allin, would you build i386 packages? And the last issue: in current version RPM pa

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12 ARIMA

2011-09-21 Thread John C Frain
I am always nervous about the practice of seasonally adjusting a large number of series using X12-ARIMA or TRAMO/SEATS. Itis generally recognised that automatic seasonal adjustment produces good results in about 70% or so of cases. The actual percentage varies considerably from application to app

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12 ARIMA

2011-09-21 Thread Patrick Kallerman
Ah! Thank you! Using your hint I worked up the below: genr emplabadj = deseas(emplab, X) Which does exactly what I needed. Now, on to figure out batch files... Thanks again. On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Ignacio Diaz-Emparanza < ignacio.diaz-emparanza(a)ehu.es> wrote: > El 21/09/11 06:24,

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12 ARIMA

2011-09-21 Thread Ignacio Diaz-Emparanza
El 21/09/11 06:24, Patrick Kallerman escribió: > Hello, > > I'm a young practioner of economics and I've been trying to Seasonally > Adjust a large number of datasets related to employment. > > Since I'm using a Mac, I've installed both gretl and the X-12 option. > I'm fairly tech-savvy but hit a w

[Gretl-users] X-12 ARIMA

2011-09-20 Thread Patrick Kallerman
Hello, I'm a young practioner of economics and I've been trying to Seasonally Adjust a large number of datasets related to employment. Since I'm using a Mac, I've installed both gretl and the X-12 option. I'm fairly tech-savvy but hit a wall so I thought I'd ask for some help. Basically I have a

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-Arima

2010-10-04 Thread Allin Cottrell
On Fri, 1 Oct 2010, John C Frain wrote: > Thanks for your attention to this matter. I think that you are very > close to an ideal solution which does not over-complicate the > adjustment process like other implementations. It would be nice if > users read the standard output and error files but

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-Arima

2010-10-01 Thread John C Frain
Allin Thanks for your attention to this matter. I think that you are very close to an ideal solution which does not over-complicate the adjustment process like other implementations. It would be nice if users read the standard output and error files but I am sure that they will not. The x12arim

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-Arima

2010-09-28 Thread Allin Cottrell
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010, John C Frain wrote: > I have attached a pdf file which, I hope, clarifies my proposals for > the gretl x12arima interface. Thanks for the suggestions, John. > Basically there are three proposals > > 1. An amendment to the graphics output of the x12arima interface > in gretl

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-Arima

2010-09-27 Thread John C Frain
Allin I have attached a pdf file which, I hope, clarifies my proposals for the gretl x12arima interface. Basically there are three proposals 1. An amendment to the graphics output of the x12arima interface in gretl to improve these graphs when there are missing values. 2. A greater emphasis on t

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-Arima

2010-09-13 Thread Allin Cottrell
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010, John C Frain wrote: > I have had a quick look at the new version and it looks good. Two > small suggestions - > > 1) The inclusion of the -9 value makes a bit of a mess of the two > graphs which include the original series. Would it be possible to use > Table B1 (Origin

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-Arima

2010-09-13 Thread John C Frain
Allin I have had a quick look at the new version and it looks good. Two small suggestions - 1) The inclusion of the -9 value makes a bit of a mess of the two graphs which include the original series. Would it be possible to use Table B1 (Original series pre-adjusted for outliers and missin

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-Arima

2010-09-12 Thread Allin Cottrell
On Sat, 11 Sep 2010, John C Frain wrote: > I can complete the analysis with the following amended spec. > > series{ > ... > } > transform{function=auto} > outlier{} > regression{variables=(const, td)} > automdl{} > x11{ save=( d11 ) } > > Here the spec tra

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-Arima

2010-09-11 Thread John C Frain
Allin Sorry I don't know where the plural came from. It should be outlier{} Best Regards John On 11 September 2010 19:39, Allin Cottrell wrote: > On Fri, 10 Sep 2010, John C Frain wrote: > >> series{ >        ... >>       } >>       transform{function=auto} >>       outliers{} >>       autom

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-Arima

2010-09-11 Thread John C Frain
Allin My apologies. I had intended saving yesterday's draft reply and revising and finishing the email today. It appears that, instead, I sent it in error. Perhaps the best thing to do is ignore yesterday's and read what is below? Page 2 of the X12 manual states "Observations must be equally s

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-Arima

2010-09-11 Thread Allin Cottrell
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010, John C Frain wrote: > series{ ... > } > transform{function=auto} > outliers{} > automdl{} > x11{ save=( d11 d12 d13 ) } Hmm, if I feed this to x12a (Version 0.3 Build 188) it comes back with Line 18: outliers{} ^ ERROR:

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-Arima

2010-09-11 Thread Allin Cottrell
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010, John C Frain wrote: > Page 2 of the X12 manual states "Observations must be equally spaced > in time, and missing values are not allowed. As you say there are > circumstances in which -9 can be used as an indicator of a missing > value. However this is not true in all case

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-Arima

2010-09-10 Thread John C Frain
Allin Page 2 of the X12 manual states "Observations must be equally spaced in time, and missing values are not allowed. As you say there are circumstances in which -9 can be used as an indicator of a missing value. However this is not true in all cases. If I insert and interior -9 in Henr

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-Arima

2010-09-10 Thread Jack
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010, John C Frain wrote: > There is a considerable debate about using x12-arima adjusted data in > econometric models. Some times it is all that you can do. Often it > is better to include a specific seasonal model in your econometrics. John, thanks for your contribution to the d

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-Arima

2010-09-09 Thread John C Frain
Henrique, My initial encounter with seasonal adjustment was as a statistician in the Central Statistics Office in Dublin. In the mid 1970's we started to use the x11 (previous version of the X12-Arima) program. For each series we asked a variety of questions (e.g. Additive/multiplicative adjust

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-Arima

2010-09-09 Thread Allin Cottrell
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010, John C Frain wrote: > My initial encounter with seasonal adjustment was as a > statistician in the Central Statistics Office in Dublin... Thanks, John, for presenting the expert's view! Although I recently conceded to Henrique's request to trim leading and trailing NAs from t

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-Arima

2010-09-09 Thread John C Frain
X12-ARIMA has its own way of dealing with missing values either at the end of the series or in the middle. Even if the missing values are in the middle of the series X12-Arima in Gretl will fail with a similar message. Perhaps it would be better if Gretl just checked for missing values and if it

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-Arima

2010-09-09 Thread Henrique Andrade
Dear John, I'm not blaming Gretl or X-12-Arima because of this. I have a real life problem: I have two series, X and Y, inside a Gretl data file (.gdt). The variable X goes up to 2008 and variable Y goes up to 2009. My model says that: X = B0 + B1*Y(t-1) With this I can predict the values of th

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-Arima

2010-09-09 Thread Henrique Andrade
Thanks a lot Allin! 2010/9/9 Allin Cottrell > On Wed, 8 Sep 2010, Henrique Andrade wrote: > > > I'm trying to perform a X-12-Arima analysis in a series but I'm getting > this > > error message: > > > > ERROR: Multiplicative or log additive seasonal adjustment cannot > > be performed when preadju

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-Arima

2010-09-08 Thread Allin Cottrell
On Wed, 8 Sep 2010, Henrique Andrade wrote: > I'm trying to perform a X-12-Arima analysis in a series but I'm getting this > error message: > > ERROR: Multiplicative or log additive seasonal adjustment cannot > be performed when preadjustment factors are derived from a > regARIMA model for data wh

[Gretl-users] X-12-Arima

2010-09-08 Thread Henrique Andrade
Dear Gretl Community, I'm trying to perform a X-12-Arima analysis in a series but I'm getting this error message: "Error messages generated from processing the X-12-ARIMA spec file teste.spc: ERROR: Multiplicative or log additive seasonal adjustment cannot be performed when preadjustment factors

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-ARIMA FILTER

2010-05-07 Thread Allin Cottrell
On Fri, 7 May 2010, Sebastian Fux wrote: > I have installed the X-12-ARIMA filter and changed the path names in Gretl > so that this should be ok. When I would like to run the X-12ARIMA I always > get the following error message: > > 'Couldn't open C:\Users\Smith > Peter\AppData\Roaming\gretl\x12

[Gretl-users] X-12-ARIMA FILTER

2010-05-07 Thread Sebastian Fux
Dear all, I have installed the X-12-ARIMA filter and changed the path names in Gretl so that this should be ok. When I would like to run the X-12ARIMA I always get the following error message: 'Couldn't open C:\Users\Smith Peter\AppData\Roaming\gretl\x12arima\USOPRI04H.d11' Where USOPRI

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12 Arima seasonal adjustment

2010-04-22 Thread Paulo Grahl
Well, since it does not seen to be an easy task, here is my plan: I will take a look at John's suggested interface, use it for a while to see what I will really need in terms of x-12-arima options, before bothering Gretl developers... thanks. Paulo On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:31 PM, Allin Cottrell

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12 Arima seasonal adjustment

2010-04-21 Thread Allin Cottrell
On Wed, 21 Apr 2010, Paulo Grahl wrote: > [...] I'm still open on how to do it from within Gretl, since it > facilitates a lot the automation of the process. Since a > seasonal adjustment is just the first step before a gretl script > runs, it would be a lot more convenient for me to keep it all

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12 Arima seasonal adjustment

2010-04-21 Thread Paulo Grahl
Thanks John. I was going the way in (1) but will definitely take a look in the option (2). Meanwhile, I'm still open on how to do it from within Gretl, since it facilitates a lot the automation of the process. Since a seasonal adjustment is just the first step before a gretl script runs, it would

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12 Arima seasonal adjustment

2010-04-20 Thread John C Frain
I dont know how to do this in Gretl. If it can not be done in Gretl you have several options. 1) Use the original x12arima program. The easy way to do this is to copy the X12arima directory from the gretl directory to a directory where you have read write access. You can then set up an x12 spec

[Gretl-users] X-12 Arima seasonal adjustment

2010-04-19 Thread Paulo Grahl
Dear list members, I need to change some of the default behavior of the X-12 ARIMA method, but could not find instructions in Gretl manual on how to do it from within Gretl. I have a monthly survey series (sort of diffusion index) that ranges from 0 to100 and I need to get the seasonal factors. I

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-Arima analysis

2009-02-18 Thread Marcin Błażejowski
I don't think so. Robert Besso pisze: > ok it works, but I have daily data. > > Can I use X12 Arima with daily data ? > > Thanks > LB > > Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:15:15 +0100 > From: marcin(a)wrzosy.nsb.pl > To: gretl-users(a)lists.wfu.edu > Subject:

RE: [Gretl-users] X-12-Arima analysis

2009-02-18 Thread Robert Besso
ok it works, but I have daily data. Can I use X12 Arima with daily data ? Thanks LB List-Post: gretl-users@gretlml.univpm.it Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:15:15 +0100 From: marcin(a)wrzosy.nsb.pl To: gretl-users(a)lists.wfu.edu Subject: Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-Arima analysis Check the

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-Arima analysis

2009-02-18 Thread Marcin Błażejowski
Check the frequency of the dataset: should be quarterly or monthly. Marcin Robert Besso pisze: > Hi, > > I have the following problem. I would like to start an X-12-Arima analysis on > a time serie I have (a price of a product). > Unfortunately the two "buttons/selections" (X12 ARMIA and TRAMO S

Re: [Gretl-users] X-12-Arima analysis

2009-02-18 Thread John C Frain
In Tools|Preferences|General on the Programs tab check that the paths to x12arima and tramo are correct. If not browse to the correct folders and correct. If you can not fix the problem reinstall the x12arima and tramo/seats add-ins and again make sure that the correct directories are referenced.

[Gretl-users] X-12-Arima analysis

2009-02-18 Thread Robert Besso
Hi, I have the following problem. I would like to start an X-12-Arima analysis on a time serie I have (a price of a product). Unfortunately the two "buttons/selections" (X12 ARMIA and TRAMO Seats) below Variable button in the menu cannot be selected ? What could be the problem ? I imported my