> Yep. On this one the GTS really does shine. When it came out in 1993,
I believe that Motorcyclist Magazine said 60 > 0 in 90 feet.
Regards,
Henry S. Winokur
94 GTS1000, AMA, MRF, MD/MSF Certified Instructor
West Bethesda, MD
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Brandon wrote:
> Yes, all is being equal. BUT...as we know, the advancement of textiles
> has changed that particular dynamic as we all know. Otherwise, all the
> cars at NASCAR would still be using skinny little tires. This discussion
> has been around at least once or twice.
Yes, all is being equal. BUT...as we know, the advancement of textiles
has changed that particular dynamic as we all know. Otherwise, all the
cars at NASCAR would still be using skinny little tires. This discussion
has been around at least once or twice. Do you see Kenny Roberts Jr.
riding on a 16
--- Roberto Alonso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >From: "Michel Bijl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >I have a 120 front.
> >However I'm not sure how courageous I am in testing
> the stopping distance.
> >Would the body mass of the driver be of any
> influence on the stopping
> >distance?
>
> Yes. A l
>From: "Michel Bijl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>I have a 120 front.
>However I'm not sure how courageous I am in testing the stopping distance.
>Would the body mass of the driver be of any influence on the stopping
>distance?
Yes. A lot. Have someone ride your pillion and you'll notice that distance
Would the body mass of the driver be of any influence on the stopping
distance?
Not if he's airborne in front of the bike!
Sorry couldn't resist
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Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: dreamy dreamland (was: Fluffing RE: tires again)
> Eh, might as well jump in on this one!
>
> It is true, to date, the GTS has the shortest stopping distance of any
> bike mass produced. (I suppose that something newer mi
Eh, might as well jump in on this one!
It is true, to date, the GTS has the shortest stopping distance of any
bike mass produced. (I suppose that something newer might have reached
that limit, but I haven't seen or heard of it.)
I also think, IMHO, that the larger (stock size) tire on the front,
Haha.
1. I don't take things personal. I was joking with you. I know my comments tend to get
more spirited responses. I will tease you guys/gals from time to time but in is NEVER
intended to be personal
2. I did not say the pilots are equal. You are right. If I could ride with myself on
differ
On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Roberto Alonso wrote:
snip here
> absolutely NEEDING (different from wanting or liking) the best-gripping tire
> IS going too fast. Don't mean to spoil the party, but it happens I got to
> learn that the very, very hard way.
Yep. Gotta admit I don't push as hard as I used
Yes, there are limitations to a bikes performance, both braking and turning,
but a rider's personal limits usually intercede LOOONG before the bike
limits are reached. Bottom line, the biggest difference in a bike's
performance is usually the rider!
Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC
[EMAIL PROTEC
Yes a GTS can outbrake an R1. I stand by my claim, bring on your R1. :) Dunno
about the ZX9 in a corner, I don't seem to be able to keep up with those guys.
Everytime I am on a ride that has a couple guys with sport bikes it turns into a
race for a few and they leave me and the rest of us that a
In a previous message, Garrett sez: (sorry, quote marks seemingly went on
holyday)
What?!?!?
Going too fast?? No such thing. To really appreciate the GTS finer qualities
you NEED take a 30 MPH (48.28032 KPH) Corner at 60-70 MPH (96.56064-112.6541
KPH) with a slight wash board (ripples in the road
; Behalf Of Welch, Garrett R
> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 9:31 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: RE: tires again
>
>
> Speaking of tires. A ST1100 friend of mine called Bridgestone
> about the number change (BT010 = BT57, Etc...). As they were
> cheatin
OOPS that is suppose to "Chatting"
> --
> From: Welch, Garrett R[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 9:31 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: RE: tires again
>
>
Speaking of tires. A ST1100 friend of mine called Bridgestone about the number change
(BT010 = BT57, Etc...). As they were cheating the representative said that he did not
have a direct replacement to his tire.
"I do not understand?" ST'er said "you said you make the size"
The rep said that ABS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> --
> From: Roberto Alonso[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 8:44 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: RE: tires again
(Snip)
> If you really-really-really need the stickiest tire, then you surely are riding way
> too fast for an open road (ooh... I hear the flames stirring already).
(snip)
> Later,
>
> Roberto.
>
>
>
>
> Anyone on the list have a recommendation
> for a tire that will give good mileage on the back of a GTS, and still be
> "reasonably sticky"? In other words, mileage is the first priority this
> time around.
Hey Phil, you're not alone on that. My wallet suffers too, and I've found
late-model tou
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
snip
And, I've grown a bit weary of changing tires
> too often, especially
> on the back.
I got one of those wierd changers and now I love
changing tires
>
> My current tire is a dual-compound Battlax, in an
> attempt to cover more
> distance without re
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Subject: RE: tires again
I have the BT56 on the back, it has about 8k miles and looks like it will go
another 8k.
and looks like it will go
another 8k.
-Original Message-
From: Louis Tweed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2000 11:31 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: tires again
What kind of mileage were you getting, what are you looking to get? I like
my
MEZ4's
What kind of mileage were you getting, what are you looking to get? I like my
MEZ4's alot, they are harder than the MEZ3's (Pirelli GTS tire).
Louis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> OK, I know, on this list the "correct" thing to ask is what tire is
> stickiest. But I've come to the conclusion that
> > But I find the sidewall too soft for mine- I completely fried a
> > brand NEW set of tires in ONE weekend.
> Actually, the Bridgestone have the toughest sidewall. Maybe there
> wasn't enough air in it ;-)
No, it wasn't the sidewalls that went (egad, THAT would be scary).
It wasn't the cen
Actually, the Bridgestone have the toughest sidewall. Maybe there wasn't
enough air in it ;-)
Kelly Cash wrote:
> > Finally back on line and good to be back...
> Welcome back, George!
>
> > As for tires, BT57s are best for GTS.
> Define "Best". They're great handling tires, great grip.
> If t
> Finally back on line and good to be back...
Welcome back, George!
> As for tires, BT57s are best for GTS.
Define "Best". They're great handling tires, great grip.
If they suit your needs best, then they ARE the best.
But I find the sidewall too soft for mine- I completely fried a
brand NEW
Finally back on line and good to be back on our list after a month from hell
with my PC, looks like I got all the bugs out of the system. What did I miss
on this hea list anyway?
As for tires, BT57s are best for GTS.
George is back and meaner then ever
> I hope someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that the
> size of the contact patch, times the air pressure in the tire,
> has to equal
> the weight of the bike plus rider. That's the force that holds
> the bike up,
> assuming the tire sidewalls aren't rigid enough to support th
I hope someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me that the
size of the contact patch, times the air pressure in the tire, has to equal
the weight of the bike plus rider. That's the force that holds the bike up,
assuming the tire sidewalls aren't rigid enough to support the bike mu
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In a message dated 5/11/00 6:36:52 PM Eastern
>
> The one factor that has to be considered when
> increasing tire width is rim
> width.
Good point, I wasn't thinking of that...
> people just get carried away with tire width
I think the 190 would be carried awa
most of their strength.
A smaller contact patch will definitely wear faster, all else equal. So a
wide tire on a narrow rim will flat spot quicker.
Bill
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: Sat
In a message dated 5/11/00 6:36:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
<< Also, I'm no physics guy, but I think a simple
increase in tire width, more specifically "contact
patch," would make no difference in traction, all else
being the same (like coefficient of friction, weig
In your message dated: Thu, 11 May 2000 18:17:06 EDT,
your pithy ruminations on were:
=> Grant, D207 120/70/17 up front, 180/55/17 BT56SS in the rear works well. No
=> real issue in "mixing" brands. Good luck. Stan
=>
My experience (and I've got to order another set of tires soon) is that t
Grant, D207 120/70/17 up front, 180/55/17 BT56SS in the rear works well. No
real issue in "mixing" brands. Good luck. Stan
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: Multiple recipients of list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Tires Again
> Date: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 11:37 PM
>
> I DO NOT wan
--- Louis Tweed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I stay with the stock rear tire size (170/60) but
> change the front tire
> to the 120/70. The 120/70 is a more rounded profile
> and allows the bike
> to turn easier. Still has ample traction. The
> 170/60 is also more
> rounded than the 180/55 opt
I stay with the stock rear tire size (170/60) but change the front tire
to the 120/70. The 120/70 is a more rounded profile and allows the bike
to turn easier. Still has ample traction. The 170/60 is also more
rounded than the 180/55 option. I have tried the 180/55 and the only
benifit I found
Acquire a 120/70 front and keep it at around 38 psi. The rear 170/60 is just
fine unless you want to go posing with a 180/55 which fits nicely too. Keep
it at around 40 psi.
Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC
AMA #609423 // [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.geocities.com/~raddboy
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In a message dated 5/10/2000 11:40:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Front Stock 130/60ZR17New Size 120/60ZR17
>
> Rear Stock 170/60ZR17New Size ?
>
I bought a 93 GTS last Sept. It had the OEM type tires.
I switched to the sizes above with Pirelli brand.
T
Tires
See the excellent article on SPORT RIDERFeb 2000
I had MEZ4 good for about 6500-7000 depending on riding style.
Run Michellin sport pilots now and like them better. Improved grip.
Raul R Garcia
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
P.S. Kevin gives a great explanation.Don't forget 120/70 up front or you
BT57 - a favorite of mine. Dual compound, hard centerline, softer sides,
eliminates deceleration front end wobble. Available at a great price these
days.
Pirelli Dragon GTS MTR23/24 - according to our friends across the pond,
these are even better than the BT57. A few GTS riders stateside procla
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"Henry S. Winokur" wrote:
Grant, we're not talking about taking the pegs off and laying them on the
ground!!
That's the only way I would ever drag pegs and pipeon second though
Depends on where you are in the rear suspension--add some throttle and the
peg will hit first, decrease throttle and the muffler bangs as it will with
bumpy corners
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> From: Louis E Tweed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Tires-again...
No I believe I am two steps from Max. I have ~1" race sag, and I never
bottom out even with two mildly loaded saddlebags.
Louis
P.S. I have had my GIVI bags touch down once. :) Woo hoo, deals gap is
fun. But then my rear preload was too soft and I set it up one notch the
next morning.
On Mon,
> Louis.I wouldn't say that I drag the footpegs confidently, but then
> I am not a knee dragger anyway. However, I have had my footpegs on the
> ground several times and my muffler is still like new.
>
> Grant Gall
Grant, we're not talking about taking the pegs off and laying them on the
gro
Louis.I wouldn't say that I drag the footpegs confidently, but then
I am not a knee dragger anyway. However, I have had my footpegs on the
ground several times and my muffler is still like new.
Grant Gall
Louis E Tweed wrote:
>
> Your front tire is overinflated. If you are getting 12K mil
Louis,
Do you have rear preload set to max? I was dragging GTS parts WAY too
easily at Mid-Ohio a couple years ago. Setting the preload to max helped a
little and I've left it there since.
Kevin Hawkins // Greensboro, NC
AMA #609423 // [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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