RE: [h-cost] about shaping bones in stays

2006-04-25 Thread Sharon at Collierfam.com
Absolutely gorgeous! SharonC. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Suzi Clarke Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 6:09 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] about shaping bones in stays At 13:41 25/04/2006, you wrote: >Hi Suzi, >Yes, they

[h-cost] A little help please????

2006-04-25 Thread J Degregoria
Been lurking for a couple of weeks now, and heard about the Tudor Tailor book, got it and love it..big thanks to all who spoke of it before it came out. Question is, I am Scadian, but have a friend who asked me for a pattern for a Rev war era fitted bodice. She said that they were incorrectly calle

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 4/26/2006 12:14:32 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I feel that way about Van Gogh. Fran ** Fran! Oh no! Too bad! Oh well. I saw the exhibit in DC a while back. The colors were amazing. Those paintings of lavender irises in mint gr

[h-cost] was Historical Films now "Art"

2006-04-25 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 04:04 26/04/2006, you wrote: In a message dated 4/25/2006 9:51:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think the Mona Lisa is really all that great a painting! *** Have you seen it in person? I have. I don't think it's a great painting either. D

Re: [h-cost] fall front trousers, etc./ Costume Close-Up for sale

2006-04-25 Thread Carolyn Kayta Barrows
I happen to own 2 copies. When I was there I bought an extra just in case someone might want it. Do you want it? It's brand new. No eye-prints on it or anything. Pay cover price & it's yours. If anyone else on h-cost wants it, same deal. If you live in or around Silicon Valley, no postage!

Re: [h-cost] Titanic film/live

2006-04-25 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 4/25/2006 11:43:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you thought that awful Celine Dion and the skull-scraping heart-going-on song was bad, you'd better go hide under the blankets for a couple of years. Someone is doing Titanic the Musical, rehe

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 4/25/2006 11:22:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have, and I didn't think it was worth fighting the crush of people standing around it. Also it was so dark as to make it hard to see. The time spent working my way towards the painting and figh

Re: [h-cost] Titanic film/live

2006-04-25 Thread Chindora
Hey, I have seen the Titanic Musical, and it is wonderful. I saw both the movie and the musical, and believe me the musical is worth watching, assuming it is performed by a competent ensemble. The only thing it has in common with the movie is the name of the ship and a few characters. Reg

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread Lavolta Press
I feel that way about Van Gogh. Fran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/25/2006 8:33:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know that Picasso is considered fine art. I still don't like it. It simply doesn't appeal to me. ___

RE: [h-cost] Mel Gibson flicks

2006-04-25 Thread monica spence
Hey, they were in a hurry! :-) Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:32 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Mel Gibson flicks > girlfriend or his niece unless he feels that she

Subject: Re: [h-cost] Questions, (both on topic and not)

2006-04-25 Thread Marc Carlson
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Generally Rev War events, at least on the East coast, have participants organized in military units. Is it a battle event? If so, then it's probably mostly reenactment units. The organization is important for safety and "walk on" participants are discouraged. I'll ha

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films & Mona Lisa

2006-04-25 Thread Susan Data-Samtak
I saw the Mona Lisa this past summer. The crowds were very distracting to being able to see her and appreciate her. My Sister-in-law had seen her on previous visits and said she was more fascinated with the large painting at the other end of the room with all it's details. No one was looking

[h-cost] Titanic film/live

2006-04-25 Thread stilskin
If you thought that awful Celine Dion and the skull-scraping heart-going-on song was bad, you'd better go hide under the blankets for a couple of years. Someone is doing Titanic the Musical, rehearsals start mid-year. Anyone got an ice maker? -C. -

Re: [h-cost] Mel Gibson flicks

2006-04-25 Thread stilskin
> girlfriend or his niece unless he feels that she can do the job. > Then there was the dramatization of the fleeing Russian royal family who all had thier corsets on upside-down, -C. This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http:

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread Land of Oz
I don't think the Mona Lisa is really all that great a painting! *** Have you seen it in person? I have, and I didn't think it was worth fighting the crush of people standing around it. Also it was so dark as to make it hard to see. The time spent working my way towards the p

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 4/25/2006 9:51:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't think the Mona Lisa is really all that great a painting! *** Have you seen it in person? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mai

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 4/25/2006 8:33:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know that Picasso is considered fine art. I still don't like it. It simply doesn't appeal to me. What a strange statement, since he paints in many different styles during

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread Elizabeth Walpole
Along these lines, I have something to get off my chest: I don't think the Mona Lisa is really all that great a painting! Whew. There. I feel much better now. -E House (Also, eyebrowlessness is a huge pet peeve of mine.) Well I believe Leonardo da Vinci would agree with you, he never was sat

[h-cost] Mohicans was Re: Titanic film

2006-04-25 Thread Ann Catelli
I haven't read Fenimore Cooper (I have tried), but Mark Twain's "The Literary Offences of Fenimore Cooper" is a very funny piece. Ann in CT p.s. Who is running the Mohegan Sun casino? ac --- Lavolta Press <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I haven't read the book, which hopefully explains > things

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread E House
- Original Message - From: "Lavolta Press" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Absolutely. But some stuff gets canonized that probably never was very good, either because it's early, or because it's "art." Along these lines, I have something to get off my chest: I don't think the Mona Lisa is really

Re: [h-cost] Re: working with leather, Firefly browncoat

2006-04-25 Thread E House
- Original Message - From: "Chiara Francesca Arianna d'Onofrio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Also, if they make it for your machine, get the teflon foot and plate. It makes life so much easier when working with leather or fake leather. :) I got a walking foot for my project, and loved it so mu

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread Dianne & Greg Stucki
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Historical Films In a message dated 4/25/2006 5:24:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sometimes, the entertainment of previous d

Re: [h-cost] historical films/ plays tv drama

2006-04-25 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 4/25/2006 7:04:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Broadway Theatre Archive ** Yeswell worth checking out...even the "bad" productions. I remember when "School for Scandal" aired. I was in college then and all my design teach

Re: [h-cost] historical films/ plays tv drama

2006-04-25 Thread Lavolta Press
The Broadway Theatre Archive has DVDs of stage plays--from a variety of theaters--from an old TV series. That, they say, is why the images tend to be rather fuzzy. The quality of the performances is all over the map. There is a very good "Tartuffe," an awful "School for Scandal," a good "The

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 4/25/2006 5:24:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sometimes, the entertainment of previous days survives as entertainment as well as art, just because it's GOOD. * Why is it assumed that art is not entertaining? Weird. _

Re: [h-cost] biblical example RE Teaching, was: Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread Lavolta Press
Exactly. Fran otsisto wrote: Perhaps I didn't phrase it right. Basically, I was switching "ideas" for "interpretation", thus saying, "you're not always following someone else's interpretation" De -Original Message- Not so much not following someone's ideas but their interpretati

Re: [h-cost] Movies-things that make you cringe!

2006-04-25 Thread REBECCA BURCH
This is why I prefer video/DVD - nobody cares when I yell at the screen at home. It took several years, but I finally quit taking costume notes at live theater. I still notice - I just don't write it down anymore. --- kelly grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > but because of my DH the entire fa

Re: [h-cost] fall front trousers, etc./ Costume Close-Up for sale

2006-04-25 Thread Cin
>>If the Eagle one is too late, how 'bout using the workmans breeches in >>"Costume Close-Up", the Williamsburg book? >It's something about not owning that book... > CarolynKayta Barrows >dollmaker, fibre artist, textillian I happen to own 2 copies. When I was there I bought an extra just i

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread Lavolta Press
And some of us still see it as entertainment--I found The Pickwick Papers to be one of the funniest books I ever read, and Sam Weller is quite possibly my favorite book character of all time. There are parts of that book that made me positively roar with laughter, and others that made me cry.

[h-cost] historical films/ plays tv drama

2006-04-25 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Hi, Now this topic is up, does any of you know of any good tv plays to buy on tape or dvd? I remember back some years where i have seen quite many interresting plays or tv dramas from the end of 17th century. I believe it was real old plays from 17th century. There is one special i remember ver

RE: [h-cost] biblical example RE Teaching, was: Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread otsisto
Perhaps I didn't phrase it right. Basically, I was switching "ideas" for "interpretation", thus saying, "you're not always following someone else's interpretation" De -Original Message- > Not so much not following someone's ideas but their interpretation of the > information gathered.

Re: [h-cost] 2nd Request Please remove me from the [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-04-25 Thread Debloughcostumes
You have to follow these instructions to unsubscribe, as detailed at teh top of every digest (though I know not every body get this in digest form). Debbie In a message dated 4/25/06 10:27:32 PM GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web,

re: [h-cost] Questions, (both on topic and not)

2006-04-25 Thread Debloughcostumes
no idea on the former question, but on the latter (coat), have you tried jas townsend's?? (don't have url to hand, sorry, but whenever I need them I google or yahoo them) debbie ps - also have no idea what their patterns are like, as I don't use comm. patterns, but am sure I've seen rev w

Re: [h-cost] biblical example RE Teaching, was: Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread Lavolta Press
Not so much not following someone's ideas but their interpretation of the information gathered. That's not what I meant, either. There is no need to "follow" someone else's interpretation if you can make your own interpretation from the same facts. Fran __

Re: [h-cost] New MCT Book was Update on Henry VIII book

2006-04-25 Thread Gytha Stonegrinder
I got mine today! Looks good! Thanks, Kathy Catherine Kinsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I'll be interested in knowing when people get their copies. I still don't >have mine, which is apparently on the slow boat from England. > >--Robin == I just got an email notifi

Re: [h-cost] GFD lacing spacing

2006-04-25 Thread Cynthia J Ley
Re: eyelets. There's a nice article in Renaissance magazine (the issue that came out before the current one) on doing those, both without and with rings--even a costume ignoramus like myself understood what the author was talking about. Laurie, would you like to borrow it? Arlys __

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread Dianne & Greg Stucki
- Original Message - From: "Lavolta Press" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 6:56 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Historical Films ** Hopefully, every once in a while, there's some ART! The line between entertain

Re: [h-cost] Questions, (both on topic and not)

2006-04-25 Thread aquazoo
Hi Marc, Generally Rev War events, at least on the East coast, have participants organized in military units. Is it a battle event? If so, then it's probably mostly reenactment units. The organization is important for safety and "walk on" participants are discouraged. In which case,

[h-cost] biblical example RE Teaching, was: Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread otsisto
I was informed that at that time in Jewish history/customs. It was the groom's responsibility to make sure that there was plenty of wine. So, for Mary to be concerned about the quantity of wine implies some relation to the groom's side. For her to approach Jesus about it implies that Jesus is the g

Re: [h-cost] Re: working with leather, Firefly browncoat

2006-04-25 Thread Chiara Francesca Arianna d'Onofrio
Try using button thread. It most resembles silk button twist and will not rip through your leather. Do not use the commercial silk embroidery threads that you find at your Jo-Anns or Walmart etc., they break, a lot. You can find good quality silk threads online now a days if you really want to go

Re: [h-cost] Re: working with leather, Firefly browncoat

2006-04-25 Thread E House
The only two things I've found to worry about with leather are: A) The thickness of the leather, & making sure that your sewing machine can handle it--for the browncoat, I used suede that was nearly 1/8 thick, and though my machine actually was capable of handling 5 layers of it, it caused all

Re: [h-cost] Teaching, was: Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread Lavolta Press
OK, but there is a difference between research (finding data) and intepretation (of the data). One of the first things I learned in upper-division history seminars is there are often serveral, equally believable ways of interpreting the same data. After a certain point, all you can give the

[h-cost] Last of the Mohicans

2006-04-25 Thread Julie
I love to play a kind of game when watching a "historical costume" film or TV show I call: Find all the things in the costumes that give away the year the film was made. Hairstyles and makeup of the leading actors is a dead giveaway. If you want to see a costume designer's original intent: chec

Re: [h-cost] Movies-things that make you cringe!

2006-04-25 Thread AnnBWass
In a message dated 4/25/2006 4:02:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: three historians spork historical movies. In the archives are Braveheart, Sound of music, The patriot, and many more I never could figure out why everyone was so crazy about Sound of Music, especi

Re: [h-cost] Teaching, was: Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread Lavolta Press
Whether in the classroom, symposium, or casual conversation, the key is documentation. Not for the last--at least, it tends to become a focus for tiresome "prove yourself to me" games. There is a difference between a doctoral dissertation and a conversation. If I can't cite t

[h-cost] eyelets in GFD

2006-04-25 Thread Julie
Oh, on marking technique: Realistically, I know they probably didn't measure. I've stopped using numeric measurements for almost every part of my fitted dress construction, and I think I'm at about the point where I don't need to measure eyelets either. I imagine the medieval seamstress spaced eye

Re: [h-cost] Movies-things that make you cringe!

2006-04-25 Thread Lena
In the spirit of these movie related threads: I would like to draw your attention to History Spork, where two (or sometimes) three historians spork historical movies. In the archives are Braveheart, Sound of music, The patriot, and many more. http://history-spork.livejournal.com/ In the same vei

[h-cost] Sharon Kelley re: 2nd Request ...

2006-04-25 Thread Chiara Francesca Arianna d'Onofrio
You will have to go to http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume to get off the list and follow the directions there or email the list manager, not the list. There is nothing that the list members can do to unsub you. You can find the list managers email address at that link. On Tue, Apr

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 4/25/2006 3:07:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: becomes evident in the art as well, when you look at paintings of Magdalen in her wilderness-hermit phase. Doncha love those George De la Tour paintings??? So beautiful.

Re: [h-cost] Mel Gibson flicks

2006-04-25 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 4/25/2006 2:33:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Liz Taylor was dressed in a VERY hollywoodized version of Lorenzo Lotto.(I am surprized she wore a balzo !) Because she was the star. * She had her own designerlike Raquel Welc

Re: [h-cost] 2nd Request Please remove me from the h-costume@mail.indra.com list

2006-04-25 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting S Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Please remove me from your list. 2nd request. I believe that you have to go to the web site that's at the bottom of every email and remove yourself. I don't know if this group has a human who can do things like that or not. ---

[h-cost] Movies-things that make you cringe!

2006-04-25 Thread Julie
I've just been having a costume-a-thon at my house (coronation is Saturday and we have to dress the queen ). As we're sewing we've been watching movies and of course snarking the costumes. We watched Kiss Me Kate. My daughter wants the red dress the shrew wore. It was Hollywood Italian Ren.

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread Robin Netherton
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Interesting - Mary Magdalene also has the association of being a > penitent wandering in the desert for many years, and long hair is one > of her identifiers! There was a lot of confusion between the Marys, > so I guess Mary of Egypt is where t

Re: [h-cost] Last of the Mohicans The Leopard

2006-04-25 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
In Maeder's opinion, the Italian-Anglo film, "The Leopard" was the most historically accurately designed and costumed film up the year he wrote the book. Cindy Abel Hi, i completely agree with him, its fantastic costumes. Especially the elderly women in the great ball scene, who dresses very ear

[h-cost] 2nd Request Please remove me from the h-costume@mail.indra.com list

2006-04-25 Thread S Kelley
Please remove me from your list. 2nd request. Sharon - Celebrate Earth Day everyday! Discover 10 things you can do to help slow climate change. Yahoo! Earth Day ___ h-costume mailing list

Re: [h-cost] Steam Iron source

2006-04-25 Thread Edith Reardon
Look at ebay,some UK suppliers ship to the USA. Tried Tefal's website but it is down at the moment Brin Kendall Joannah Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: < <--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: < <(which is more than I do!) < Sorry, I can't help for a US source, but thank-you for the opinion ab

[h-cost] Questions, (both on topic and not)

2006-04-25 Thread Marc Carlson
For reasons that are somewhat complicated, I may be at a rev war event in virginia on the 14th-16th of July. First the off topic - can anyone give me a hint on what to expect - how much this sort of thing costs, tha tsort of thing (I've done re-eacting elsewhere, but not RW and not in VA). A

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread aquazoo
> Um, *that* was a throwaway line, and meant to amuse. This is Mary of > Egypt: > > http://www.wga.hu/html/m/memling/3mature1/17rein4.html > (right side) > > See, no implications for costume study there. Interesting - Mary Magdalene also has the association of being a penitent wandering in th

RE: [h-cost] Mel Gibson flicks

2006-04-25 Thread monica spence
I have spent years in the theatre-- BA and MA in costume design and history (15 years). Then I was a designer for the garment industry (24 years) . Now I teach fashion history in a college. >From my experience-- The "look" is the thing, not historical accuracy. If you have a director like Franco

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread Robin Netherton
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Robin wrote] > > I rather wish that Dan Brown had picked a saint who wasn't quite so > > central to costume study. Say, Mary of Egypt. > > Except Dan Brown didn't make the "choice". Um, *that* was a throwaway line, and meant to amuse. This is M

Re: [h-cost] Last of the Mohicans

2006-04-25 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 4/25/2006 12:38:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hairstyles and makeup of the leading actors is a dead giveaway. If you want to see a costume designer's original intent: check out some background extra. * Indeed! I love how, o

[h-cost] Re: movies-things that make you cringe

2006-04-25 Thread Kahlara
Or watching a modern military action film with a vet. "That is the completely wrong insignia..." etc. Apparently "A Few Good Men" was pretty accurate with its uniforms. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 25

Re: [h-cost] GFD lacing spacing

2006-04-25 Thread Robin Netherton
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006, Lorraine Herr wrote: > I'm looking for advice about vertical spacing of holes on the front > lacing of a gothic fitted dress. Three weeks of fittings, sewing, > bleeding, etc., and it's down to the finish line! Has anyone got > thoughts about how far apart (vertically) th

Re: [h-cost] Re: Titanic film

2006-04-25 Thread Lavolta Press
Same with the costumes, too ... otherwise no costumer would enjoy any film he or she hadn't costumed personally. Fran Sharon at Collierfam.com wrote: I drive my family nuts saying stuff like" Why doesn't he/she do ..?" My husband says,"Then the movie'd be 15 minutes long." We just have to

RE: [h-cost] Last of the Mohicans

2006-04-25 Thread Abel, Cynthia
Actually, if it wasn't stupid characters doing stupid things in most movies(and TV shoes), that would eliminate the plots of most of our entertainment from those mediums! And that would lead to the loss of a lot of fun watching them. I kind of wondered at the trailer for Marie Antoinette which

RE: [h-cost] Last of the Mohicans

2006-04-25 Thread monica spence
Genie Barrett wrote: >Actually, the book is so different from that movie that you could call > them two different stories with people who share the same names. That was my original reaction to Clive Owen's "King Arthur". Though it makes a great movie, it was not at all what I had expected. It get

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread Chris Laning
Robin wrote: >I rather wish that Dan Brown had picked a saint who wasn't quite so >central to costume study. Say, Mary of Egypt. I can just see it now. 0 Chris Laning | <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> + Davis, California http://paternoste

Re: [h-cost] Last of the Mohicans

2006-04-25 Thread Lavolta Press
That's good to know! Fran Genie Barrett wrote: At 11:53 PM 4/24/2006, you wrote: I haven't read the book, which hopefully explains things like this. But in the film, I thought they were idiots. Actually, the book is so different from that movie that you could call them two different stor

RE: [h-cost] Firefly & metalwork for costumes

2006-04-25 Thread klh
Email me offlist -- I do custom orders and short-run items, and would be interested in discussing this with you. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of E House Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:41 AM To: Historical Costume Subject:

Re: [h-cost] Firefly & metalwork for costumes

2006-04-25 Thread E House
I recently realized that, duh, there are a lot of metalworkers in the h-costuming world who can probably make a replica of the interesting fastener buckle thingies on the browncoat for me, so after thwacking myself on the head, I will now go find someone to do a custom order. Which reminds me

Re: [h-cost] about shaping bones in stays

2006-04-25 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Hi Suzi, Many thanks for this, coming from you makes it even more nice. Bjarne - Original Message - From: "Suzi Clarke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] about shaping bones in stays At 13:41

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread aquazoo
> And working in the other direction, often the clothing is part of our clue > to identification. This is a large part of that lecture. So part of my > answer to someone who wants to try to read an image of Mary as being > Magdalen has to do with how we use the clothing symbols to make the > distin

[h-cost] NYHS: New Exhibit

2006-04-25 Thread Hope Greenberg
Those of you who are or plan to be in New York city this spring may want to visit: https://www.nyhistory.org/web/default.php?section=whats_new&page=detail_pr&id=5765978 "GROUP DYNAMICS: FAMILY PORTRAITS AND SCENES OF EVERYDAY LIFE AT THE NEW-YORK HISTORICAL SOCIETY EXHIBITION OPENS A visual

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 4/25/2006 9:48:34 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think you mean Pierrot - Poirot is Agatha Christie's Belgian detective! * Oops.and HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! ___ h-costume mailing lis

Re: [h-cost] Spamalot

2006-04-25 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 4/25/2006 9:44:01 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the final scene it had one of the most inventive costumes I've seen in a long time. *** In the musical "Dream Girls"...a story of a 60s girl group like the Supremes...there'

[h-cost] Movies

2006-04-25 Thread monica spence
There are certain movies that I will not see. Titanic was one. Not because of the costumes, but I really didn't want to spend 10 bucks to see 1500 people die. I figured the story's ending wouldn't be changed, so whateve came before would make it worse. Monica Spence -Original Message- F

[h-cost] GFD lacing spacing

2006-04-25 Thread Lorraine Herr
Help! I'm looking for advice about vertical spacing of holes on the front lacing of a gothic fitted dress. Three weeks of fittings, sewing, bleeding, etc., and it's down to the finish line! Has anyone got thoughts about how far apart (vertically) the holes ought to be? I know they should

[h-cost] New MCT Book was Update on Henry VIII book

2006-04-25 Thread Catherine Kinsey
>I'll be interested in knowing when people get their copies. I still don't >have mine, which is apparently on the slow boat from England. > >--Robin == I just got an email notification from Amazon that my pre-ordered copy is on the way. At this rate it could beat my pre

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread Kate M Bunting
Kate Bunting Librarian and 17th century reenactor >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 25/04/2006 13:48 >>> wrote >... or the sad love lorn character [Poirot]... I think you mean Pierrot - Poirot is Agatha Christie's Belgian detective! ___ h-costume mailing li

[h-cost] Spamalot

2006-04-25 Thread Katy Bishop
A couple of weeks ago we went to see Spamalot (I highly recommend it if you like Monty Python, I had a fabulous time, made me forget my troubles and I thought by friend would fall off her chair laughing). In the final scene it had one of the most inventive costumes I've seen in a long time. It wa

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 4/25/2006 9:28:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And, I believe also in various forms of Japanese theater, yes? ** Most definitely! And Indian and Tai, Bali, Indonesiaetc...etc... Notice how all these, and the Greek

Re: [h-cost] Re: Titanic film

2006-04-25 Thread Katy Bishop
My husband realised he had been going to costume films with me too long when his first thought at a lady taking off her bodice in a film was "Hey, she's not wearing a chemise." Katy On 4/25/06, Sharon at Collierfam.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I drive my family nuts saying stuff like" Why doe

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread AnnBWass
In a message dated 4/25/2006 8:55:34 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This relates to theatre. Since Greek theatre [and no doubt before] the costume is a symbol. And, I believe also in various forms of Japanese theater, yes? Ann Wass __

Re: [h-cost] Movies-things that make you cringe!

2006-04-25 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 4/25/2006 7:35:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Our favourite thing to make us yell at the screen... *** I hate it when someone gets shotin the arm or leg or shoulder and then runs around for the rest of the film as if no

Re: [h-cost] Movies-things that make you cringe!

2006-04-25 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 4/25/2006 7:13:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think it's because the public is becomming better educated about costume history, I also think that it will get better in the future too. Costume Literature has jumped tenfold since I left Univer

Re: [h-cost] about shaping bones in stays

2006-04-25 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 13:41 25/04/2006, you wrote: Hi Suzi, Yes, they also steamed the bones in 18th century, acording to Janet Arnold. I can bend my wissner boning, so that it gets a curved shape, and it works nicely i think. Anyway, i replaced the thick 2 mm. bones inside with thinner bones 1mm. Its the more so

Re: [h-cost] about shaping bones in stays

2006-04-25 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Hi Albertcat, I just thoaght, that looking at Hogarts drawings, the stays lying on the floor, if the shaping bones, had ben thin, they would not be able to stand a lone, and keep the whole body shape, like a dress stand. Even the body heats the vertical bones, they could not alone hold the shape

Re: [h-cost] about shaping bones in stays

2006-04-25 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 4/25/2006 5:09:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: they are shaped like the body, and i would say, its the horzontal bones that keep them in shape. Would this not provide heavier boning? ** Good question. Does not real wha

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 4/25/2006 4:21:11 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And working in the other direction, often the clothing is part of our clue to identification. This relates to theatre. Since Greek theatre [and no doubt before] the costume i

Re: [h-cost] about shaping bones in stays

2006-04-25 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Hi Suzi, Yes, they also steamed the bones in 18th century, acording to Janet Arnold. I can bend my wissner boning, so that it gets a curved shape, and it works nicely i think. Anyway, i replaced the thick 2 mm. bones inside with thinner bones 1mm. Its the more soft plastic boning i used for them

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 4/25/2006 4:02:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pick any public trial - no matter what the jury ultimately says, we all have our own opinion on the guilt or innocence of the defendant. And it does not change any facts about what they were wearing.

[h-cost] Re: Titanic film

2006-04-25 Thread Kate M Bunting
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 24/04/2006 23:42 >>> >Considering how many people tragically died on the Titanic, and >considering that something is known about the more upper-crust ones at >least, I was amazed the producers didn't use a real story with main >characters who were really there.

Re: [h-cost] Re: Titanic film

2006-04-25 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 4/25/2006 12:54:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: because almost everybody else in the film had gotten colorfully killed. *** All the major characters I made the costumes for die horriblyCpt. Heyward [the escort], Col. Monr

Re: [h-cost] about shaping bones in stays

2006-04-25 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 13:11 25/04/2006, you wrote: Message: 12 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:19:35 +0100 From: Suzi Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [h-cost] about shaping bones in stays To: Historical Costume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; for

Re: [h-cost] about shaping bones in stays

2006-04-25 Thread SPaterson
I am not Suzi, but when I interned at Jamestown I also got to play in the Yorktown Collection. There was a pair of extant stays that were of similar construction and definately 18th c. but cut more like C&C page 40 but still like the 1740's - almost wall-to wall whalebone with the cross boning.

[h-cost] about shaping bones in stays

2006-04-25 Thread Purple Elephant
Message: 12 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 10:19:35 +0100 From: Suzi Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [h-cost] about shaping bones in stays To: Historical Costume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:04 25/04/2006,

Re: [h-cost] Movies-things that make you cringe!

2006-04-25 Thread Elizabeth Walpole
- Original Message - From: "kelly grant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:07 PM Subject: [h-cost] Movies-things that make you cringe! but because of my DH the entire family is known to yell >at the screen in any movie hi

Re: [h-cost] Historical Films

2006-04-25 Thread Elizabeth Walpole
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Historical Costume" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 2:19 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Historical Films Robin wrote, (Sample question: How can I be sure that such-and-so-image of the Madonna and Child isn't really Mary

Re: [h-cost] about shaping bones in stays - rigiline

2006-04-25 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 12:12 25/04/2006, you wrote: Dear Suzi, Bjarne and others who do stays I'm debating whether to use the plastic whalebone or rigilene: while the narrowness of the whalebone gives what looks to me like a very authentic appearance (with the narrow rows of stitching) You can buy narrow Rigilene

Re: [h-cost] Movies-things that make you cringe!

2006-04-25 Thread stilskin
> > Our favourite thing to make us yell at the screen... I have been known to sit up back during The Sound of Music and, at the appropriate moment, shout, "They're behind the tombstone...!" -C. This email was sent from Netspace Webm

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