Re: [h-cost] Corset at Manchester Galleries

2006-06-20 Thread Carmen Beaudry
Snip Though I do have a question, hopefully someone where has studied the art of making stays; why is it that before the 19thC strips of baleen used for the bulk of stays were so incredibly narrow? I'm sure you get more flexibility with it but still have a very supportive garment. But is the

Re: [h-cost] Neck Ruff

2006-06-20 Thread Carolyn Kayta Barrows
How do you construct the neck ruff so that the hem, etc is hidden? If you don't want a visible hem at the outside edge, don't make a hem there. Use doubled material, folded over any stiffening you think you need, with the fold at the outside edge. That way there's no hem to have to hide.

RE: [h-cost] Neck Ruff

2006-06-20 Thread Sharon at Collierfam.com
I saw the partlet. It's fabulous. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carolyn Kayta Barrows Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 11:51 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Neck Ruff How do you construct the neck ruff so that the hem, etc

Re: [h-cost] Neck Ruff

2006-06-20 Thread Kelly Grant
For my latest ruff, I folded the fabric in half, lengthwise, pleated it, and sewed the raw edge by machine to hold the pleats. I then stitched the neck band on, sewing the inside edge first, then hand tacking the outside edge so it looks hand stitched. I tend not to use lace, as it would have

Re: [h-cost] Corset at Manchester Galleries

2006-06-20 Thread Suzi Clarke
At 03:25 20/06/2006, you wrote: http://www.manchestergalleries.org/costume/object.php?irn=14962QueryPage=i n dex.phpthemeback=2CostumeTheme=costume%20sub-theme It is dated 1620 to 1640, but to my eye it looks a bit later. Does anyone on the list know anything about this garment, and

Re: [h-cost] Corset at Manchester Galleries

2006-06-20 Thread michaela
There has been talk of a set of stays being found in Wales, which are much earlier in date, and I believe Ian the Staymaker was invited to look at them. However, to the best of my knowledge, nothing has yet been published about them. Bjarne mentioned them in a post some time ago, I think. I

[h-cost] Re: Changes at Joann's- (was Europa trims)

2006-06-20 Thread Kahlara
Were Europa Trims the ones that had the gorgeous, wide trims that actually looked like they were worth the price?! I was trying to find a nice quality satin at the local (Bellingham, WA) Joann's the other day and was getting frustrated because I just couldn't find what I really wanted. It

Re: [h-cost] Corset at Manchester Galleries

2006-06-20 Thread Carmen Beaudry
I think there is a picture of the Manchester stays in Corsets and Crinolines, with a later date. I have a drawing from a student of the same stays, also dated later. I think that date given was 1670 - court dress of this time had the tops of the shoulders exposed. Thank you, Suzi, this is

Re: [h-cost] Re: Changes at Joann's- (was Europa trims)

2006-06-20 Thread AnnBWass
In a message dated 6/20/2006 8:12:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I wish they were going to bring in some more classic and natural fabrics but I'm afraid that they'll assume since things aren't moving people aren't sewing and not realize it is just because people

Re: [h-cost] Europa Trims: they're baaaack! Sort of...

2006-06-20 Thread Sue Clemenger
That would be a real shame. They're kind of drowning in it already, as far as I'm concerned. --Sue - Original Message - From: Sylvia Rognstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Europa Trims: they're

Re: [h-cost] Corset at Manchester Galleries

2006-06-20 Thread michaela
I think there is a picture of the Manchester stays in Corsets and Crinolines, with a later date. I have a drawing from a student of the same stays, also dated later. I think that date given was 1670 - court dress of this time had the tops of the shoulders exposed. Thank you, Suzi, this

Re: [h-cost] Europa Trims: they're baaaack! Sort of...

2006-06-20 Thread purplkat
My local joAnns is more oriented toward the polar fleece, 'cutesy' quilting stuff, yard decorations and dried flower arrangements. The yarn dept is located BEHIND the Clearance items. And all they stock there is the newest novelty yarn and baby yarn and dishcloth cotton. BLEAGH!! To get real

Re: [h-cost] Corset at Manchester Galleries

2006-06-20 Thread AlbertCat
In a message dated 6/20/2006 7:46:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But is the benefit so great for so much more extra work? Was it down to the methods of cutting perhaps? When labor is cheaper than materials..who cares about extra

[h-cost] NYC recommendations

2006-06-20 Thread Hope Greenberg
Speaking of NYC: I'll be heading down there this summer and (obviously!) need to visit some fabric stores. I used to cruise around Orchard St. but that was many years ago. This time through I'll have my daughter in tow and have promised her that we won't spend too much time fabric shopping.

Re: [h-cost] Re: Changes at Joann's- (was Europa trims)

2006-06-20 Thread Ailith Mackintosh
Ah, but the linen-cotton blend is on sale for half off right now, making it $3.99 a yard. I went yesterday and bought what was left of the white. All of the linen prints/embroidered, blends are half off. The 100% linen is $10/yd. Four or five years ago Jo-Ann's did carry more silk, linen and

Re: [h-cost] NYC recommendations

2006-06-20 Thread purplkat
One store I have info for right at hand is : Fashion Fabric, Inc 270 W 39th (don't know the cross street but it is near 7 - 8 Ave) M-F 9-7pm, Sat 10-7pm, Sun 11 - 5pm http://www.fashionfabricny.com (I copied this off their business card) As I find more I'll post them. Including one store that

Re: [h-cost] Re: Changes at Joann's- (was Europa trims)

2006-06-20 Thread AnnBWass
In a message dated 6/20/2006 11:18:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ah, but the linen-cotton blend is on sale for half off right now, making it $3.99 a yard. Yes, that was why I was SO tempted. But, enough is enough, already. Ooops. Did I really say that

Re: [h-cost] Re: Changes at Joann's- (was Europa trims)

2006-06-20 Thread Susan B. Farmer
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In a message dated 6/20/2006 11:18:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ah, but the linen-cotton blend is on sale for half off right now, making it $3.99 a yard. Good chemise weight? Jerusha *needing* good chemise weight ... - Susan

[h-cost] Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 5, Issue 487

2006-06-20 Thread Cin
Even G Street Fabrics does not seem to carry nearly the assortment of apparel fabrics or trims that they used to. I think they are pushing their custom home decorating business more. I was at G-Street Seven Corners last weekend (for my annual pilgrimage since I live in Calif) and they had tons

Re: [h-cost] Corset at Manchester Galleries

2006-06-20 Thread E House
I add my vote to the looks 1650s-70s to me group, but it's also worth mentioning that we have very, very little to go on. If this turned out to be a 1630s corset, I'd be a bit surprised based on the fashionable silhouette of the time and the extant boned bodices, but if it turned out to be

Re: [h-cost] Re: Changes at Joann's- (was Europa trims)

2006-06-20 Thread Dawn
Susan B. Farmer wrote: Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In a message dated 6/20/2006 11:18:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ah, but the linen-cotton blend is on sale for half off right now, making it $3.99 a yard. Good chemise weight? What I saw at my local

Re: [h-cost] Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 5, Issue 487

2006-06-20 Thread AnnBWass
In a message dated 6/20/2006 1:08:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was at G-Street Seven Corners last weekend (for my annual pilgrimage since I live in Calif) and they had tons of colors weights of linen. Sure it was OMG pricey, but it was there ,which is more

Re: [h-cost] Re: Changes at Joann's- (was Europa trims)

2006-06-20 Thread AnnBWass
In a message dated 6/20/2006 12:29:35 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good chemise weight? I think so. Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] Re: Changes at Joann's- (was Europa trims)

2006-06-20 Thread Ailith Mackintosh
The white is lighter in weight than the colored stuff. I just finished a bonnet and shirt for an infant and they turned out just lovely. The stuff that I bought yesterday is ready for me to make a couple of chemises. It's comparable to the 3.5 oz. linen from Fabrics-store.com, maybe just a

Re: [h-cost] NYC recommendations

2006-06-20 Thread Ailith Mackintosh
The link is no good. It just takes you to one of those generic link pages. :-( Darn it! kate - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] NYC recommendations One store I have info

Re: [h-cost] Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 5, Issue 487

2006-06-20 Thread Robin Netherton
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was at G-Street Seven Corners last weekend ... Remember when there was stuff piled all over, and you had to dodge the piles to get around? Better yet, I remember when they took up seven floors of an ancient building on G Street, with stuff piled

[h-cost] Question for the list

2006-06-20 Thread Diana Habra
Hello everyone, I may have found some honest-to-goodness 100% silk velvet at one of my suppliers. It is a white-ish color and would be of limited quantity (less than 35 yards available). I don't know how much it would cost butI would like to ask how much people would be willing to pay for

RE: [h-cost] Europa Trims: they're baaaack! Sort of...

2006-06-20 Thread Abel, Cynthia
My local JoAnn's and Hancock's are both more oriented towards what you mentioned and the yarns are on a back wall near the clearance items. There are a few more basic yarns in mine. It is what sells, and until more people ask for natural fibers, that is what the chains are going to sell. I used

Re: [h-cost] Fwd: Vivian Murphy Workshop in St. Louis!

2006-06-20 Thread Dawn
E House wrote: I'll try to find out the future plans--they probably haven't been made yet, but hopefully I'll be able to manage 30 days advance warning. Is there anything specific you're interested in? FFO plans to have classes in all sorts of areas of interest, from making modern purses to

Re: Re: [h-cost] Europa Trims: they're baaaack! Sort of...

2006-06-20 Thread shaneandsheridan
big snip A lot of what I saw was synthetic, makes my skin itch. Some of it I could have used for exotic/middle eastern inspired costumes if it had been a natural fiber, not like I don't already have a closet full of dance costumes. Dawn *snort* Hey, I resemble that remark. :-) I

Re: [h-cost] Re: Changes at Joann's

2006-06-20 Thread Natalie
I will be needing to buy underpinnings materials very soon for a mid-1600's corset and farthingale. Should I use linen as the lining for the corset? Would this linen be heavy enough to use? What should I use on the outer side? I think I heard someone mention duck cloth before, but that seems

Re: [h-cost] Re: Changes at Joann's- (was Europa trims)

2006-06-20 Thread Ailith Mackintosh
Yes! It's lovely stuff and washes up nicely. The hand is a bit stiff in the store (too much size), but after laundering, it's perfect - soft, yet still has some body. kate - Original Message - From: Susan B. Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

[h-cost] bad luck!

2006-06-20 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews
Hi, Its ben a while since i last posted here. I had almost lost all my good patience with a projekt i started. It is such a lovely ribbed silk, but its so difficult to work with. I think its the worst silk i have ever tryed. I had cut out the forepart, and the back, the sleaves, and the

Re: [h-cost] Europa Trims: they're baaaack! Sort of...

2006-06-20 Thread JAMES OGILVIE
To get real fabric I have to day-trip to NYC and visit several stores that specialize in linen. However I haven't found one with good quality wool in a light enough weight to satisfy me. (also, most of the wools I can find are either too much $$$ or have 50% poly) I just got several pieces of

Re: [h-cost] Fwd: Vivian Murphy Workshop in St. Louis!

2006-06-20 Thread E House
- Original Message - From: Dawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! My interests are all over the place, generally anything after 1600, before 1900. The one next month looked interesting, since it's not a period I'm overly familiar with, and I love to learn new things. St Louis is so close

RE: [h-cost] Question for the list

2006-06-20 Thread Sharon at Collierfam.com
Do you think it would be dye-able? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Diana Habra Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 9:13 AM To: Historical Costume Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Question for the list Hello everyone, I may have found

RE: [h-cost] bad luck!

2006-06-20 Thread Sharon at Collierfam.com
That ribbed silk sounds like it would make good pillows. :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bjarne og Leif Drews Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 2:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] bad luck! Hi, Its ben a while since i last

[h-cost] Re: old fabric and trim stores

2006-06-20 Thread cahuff
At 6:28 PM -0600 6/20/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Better yet, I remember when they took up seven floors of an ancient building on G Street, with stuff piled everywhere. If you were willing to dig, you could find old bolts of wonderful stuff with old wonderful prices on them, which clearly had

RE: [h-cost] Question for the list

2006-06-20 Thread Diana Habra
Do you think it would be dye-able? If it is 100% silk, yes. *Very* dyeable ;~ Diana www.RenaissanceFabrics.net Everything for the Costumer Become the change you want to see in the world. --Ghandi ___ h-costume mailing list

Re: [h-cost] bad luck!

2006-06-20 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond
On Tuesday 20 June 2006 5:36 pm, Bjarne og Leif Drews wrote: [snip] I always starts to make the sleaves of a suit, as it is so easy going. I had just finished both cuffs, and was sewing the buttons on to the cuffs and sleaves, when i stuck my hands so badly and bleeded all over on the inner

Re: [h-cost] Re: old fabric and trim stores

2006-06-20 Thread Robin Netherton
On Tue, 20 Jun 2006, Sue Clemenger wrote: I have this great visual image of a fabric store that's part Hogwarts and part library from The Name of the Rose. That was pretty much it! The lighting was terrible, though. --Robin ___ h-costume

Re: [h-cost] Re: old fabric and trim stores

2006-06-20 Thread Sue Clemenger
That's what the secret decoder flashlight is for, though, no? I mean, as long as I'm fantasizing about it;o) --Sue - Original Message - From: Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: old