[Hardhats-members] newbie question

2005-08-30 Thread Jeroen Baten
Hello, I am a newbie to VistA but am trying to figure out if this is usefull for a menthal healthcare organisation in the Netherlands. I succesfully installed the latest OpenVistASemiVivAFOIAGold20050825.tgz but seem to be stuck now on the GTM command prompt. It would be very nice if somebody

Re: [Hardhats-members] newbie question

2005-08-30 Thread Nancy Anthracite
2. The source code is already on your machine for VistA itself in the r directory for OpenVistA . The source code for the client side software can be found on the ftp.va.gov/vista under (roughly) Software, Packages, Order Entry - Results Reporting - OR, Programs

Re: [Hardhats-members] newbie question

2005-08-30 Thread Jeroen Baten
Hello, I found the information below very usefull. Thank you. Now one question remains: 1-do I need the CPRS program or is there a way to start some sort of menu system on a Linux system? As mentioned before I have a GMT prompt. kind regards, On Tue, August 30, 2005 3:41 pm, Nancy Anthracite

Re: [Hardhats-members] newbie question

2005-08-30 Thread Nancy Anthracite
You may be able to find out some information about how to use the text based CPRS here: http://www.va.gov/vdl/Clinical.asp?appID=61 Try the list manager version as I think that is probably it. On Tuesday 30 August 2005 10:17 am, Jeroen Baten wrote: Hello, I found the information below very

RE: [Hardhats-members] newbie question

2005-08-30 Thread Thurman Pedigo
Did you also check Finland? http://www.hardhats.org/cs/broker/finn1.htm http://www.uku.fi/tike/fixit/mta99-plenary.pdf Perhaps worth a look if you haven't seen it. Thanks, thurman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeroen

[Hardhats-members] Re: newbie question

2005-08-30 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
I use the text based CPRS application periodically. 1. ncurses is not needed (VistA has its own equivalent) 2. the text based version doesn't have all the features of the gui windows CPRS. But if all you want to do it to enter progress notes, it is workable. 3. It is available through the menu

[Hardhats-members] Slow CPRS response with Linux/GT.M versus Windows/Cache...

2005-08-30 Thread Orion Richardson
Hi all, I've installed OpenVistA on Linux/GT.M and have noticed that the performance of the CPRS GUI is much slower than what I've experienced with Windows/Cache. Is anybody else experiencing similar slow down? I have tried running through xinetd and through the RPC broker directly in

Re: [Hardhats-members] Slow CPRS response with Linux/GT.M versus Windows/Cache...

2005-08-30 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Under Windows, are you running CPRS locally or on a separate box? With GT.M what kind of network are you using? --- Orion Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've installed OpenVistA on Linux/GT.M and have noticed that the performance of the CPRS GUI is much slower than what

[Hardhats-members] Re: Slow CPRS response with Linux/GT.M versus Windows/Cache...

2005-08-30 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
I'm with Greg. I bet its a network issue instead of a GT.M speed issue. Kevin On 8/30/05, Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Under Windows, are you running CPRS locally or on a separate box? With GT.M what kind of network are you using? --- Orion Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Slow CPRS response with Linux/GT.M versus Windows/Cache...

2005-08-30 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
I think Kevin Greg are right on the right track that the differences are caused by network configurations, but it would help to narrow things down. Especially on an unloaded server, which is what I suspect Orion is running, I would expect no perceptible difference between different MUMPS

[Hardhats-members] Re: Slow CPRS response with Linux/GT.M

2005-08-30 Thread Orion Richardson
Thanks all for such quick responses. You are correct in assuming that the network setup woudl be different, but the speed was so noticably different and I'd used the VistA demo from the VA with better performance than my linux machine with the same CPRS location. That seemed weird. Here's how I

RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Slow CPRS response with Linux/GT.M

2005-08-30 Thread David Sommers
You could verify the GTM daemon by trying to access Apache or something similar on your linux box to verify it on the network. If Apache (or FTP) is slow, then concentrate your efforts on the box. If Apache (or FTP) is fast, then concentrate on GTM. And what are the licensing options for Cache

RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Slow CPRS response with Linux/GT.M

2005-08-30 Thread Alberto Odor
You can access the free Caché version from an other computer in your network, exactly as you do with GT.M I have both installations Caché and GT.M on similar servers and can acess them with CPRS in an other computer yin the network and there is no noticeable difference in speed. Alberto Odor, MD

Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: Slow CPRS response with Linux/GT.M

2005-08-30 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Orion -- As Alberto's experience suggests, the issue is highly unlikely to be with GT.M. You would be wasting your time looking trying to run GT.M in raw partitions (I no of no one who uses raw partitions). As an engineer by training, I am not a betting man, but if I were, I would bet on

RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Slow CPRS response with Linux/GT.M

2005-08-30 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
David -- GT.M is unusual among database engines in that it does not have a database daemon. This avoids a potential single point bottleneck and/or source of failure. Also, compared to database engines where a daemon runs as root, system security is a little better since processes that must

[Hardhats-members] COBOL advise needed

2005-08-30 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
OK, OK, I know this is a M list. But hear me out. The December our Mysis contract will expire, which is our old EMR. The company says that it will be $5,000+ to get the old progress notes exported. Recently our group voted not to do that, and to just go forward with our paper printouts of that

Re: [Hardhats-members] COBOL advise needed

2005-08-30 Thread whitten
I'm not sure about MicroFocus Cobol (which is a PC Cobol, as I recall) but I recall that on the mainframes (IBM 360/370 range) Cobol did NOT provide its own database layer. It is probably something like VSAM or ISAM, or possibly SQL. A web search yielded:

[Hardhats-members] Computer World Editorial on Network Effect

2005-08-30 Thread whitten
I'd like to hear everyone's thoughts about http://www.computerworld.com/newsletter/0,4902,104195,0.html?nlid=AM Network Effect Opinion by Frank Hayes AUGUST 29, 2005 (COMPUTERWORLD) - I work for a hospital management company in the Midwest that works with 30 very small rural community

[Hardhats-members] Starting TASKMAN no interactive way

2005-08-30 Thread César Yáñez Fernández
Hello to everybody in the list; I have a little problem here, I need to start the TASKMAN and a routine to listen the port 9260/TCP in a not interactive way. When I make it in an interactive way, I do: # mumps -direct GTM D P^DI ENTER VA FileMan 22.0 Select OPTION: 1 ENTER ENTER OR EDIT FILE

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting TASKMAN no interactive way

2005-08-30 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Most of that is one time setup. The settings are saved in Fileman, so the next time around, you only need to start Taskman (your D ^ZTMB, though you can also do it through a menu option, if you wish). Other options, such as starting the Broker can be designated to start automatically, if you wish.

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting TASKMAN no interactive way

2005-08-30 Thread César Yáñez Fernández
Thanks a lot for your help, Greg; now I can start the Taskman in a non interactive way, now, I need to open the 9260/TCP port, so I do: GTM D STRT^XWBTCP(9260) ENTER Start TCP Listener... Checking if TCP Listener has started... TCP Listener started successfully. GTM and to stop it; I just type:

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting TASKMAN no interactive way

2005-08-30 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Can Expect handle something like this? On Tuesday 30 August 2005 08:28 pm, César Yáñez Fernández wrote: Thanks a lot for your help, Greg; now I can start the Taskman in a non interactive way, now, I need to open the 9260/TCP port, so I do: GTM D STRT^XWBTCP(9260) ENTER Start TCP Listener...

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting TASKMAN no interactive way

2005-08-30 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Why are you wanting to start and stop your system all the time? If you are planning a stable system, then you will turn it on and leave it on (i.e. on a server.) Kevin On 8/30/05, Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can Expect handle something like this? On Tuesday 30 August 2005

[Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-30 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Please provide some guidance about future releases of OpenVistA VivA. I have thus far used Knoppix (http://knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html) as the basis for OpenVistA VivA FOIA Gold releases, and Morphix (http://morphix.org) as the basis for OpenVistA VivA releases. The former releases are

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting TASKMAN no interactive way

2005-08-30 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
César -- Use Linux's shell scripting capabilities. Something like (don't take this literally, but use it as the basis for what you should do): To start: export gtm_dist=/usr/local/gtm export gtmgbldir= ...pointer to global directory... export gtmroutines= ...routine search path...

RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: Slow CPRS response with Linux/GT.M

2005-08-30 Thread David Sommers
I generalized non-interactive process to daemon. I haven't used GTM nearly as much as I would like but I understand your POV. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K.S. Bhaskar Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-30 Thread Suchi Pande
K.S. Bhaskar wrote: Please provide some guidance about future releases of OpenVistA VivA. At the other extreme, is Damn Small Linux (http://damnsmalllinux.org). Sans VistA, this distribution is small enough to fit onto a business card sized CD. With VistA, the download would be around 220MB.

RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-30 Thread David Sommers
I would be very open to investigating running under Windows while we still have this dependency on CPRS. Having a single system demo is very very useful. Plus I'm all for dogfooding a puppy as well. David Sommers, Architect | Dialog Medical -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-30 Thread Ismet Kursunoglu
Much thanks goes to you Bhaskar for all of your support in maintaining these releases. Would it be possible to create .deb packages of GT.M/OpenVistA? It would be so nice to automate and manage updates and installations on a running Debian server with dpkg or apt-get. Perhaps something such

Re: [Hardhats-members] Computer World Editorial on Network Effect

2005-08-30 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
Very perceptive, in my opinion. I suspect that everyone here is so focused on getting a product out that questions of interoperability are not given much consideration. But it's surely true that people will shy away from using VistA if they feel that they are locked in to a particular

Re: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-30 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
I assume your basic goal is to come up with something like a turn key solution. Is that a fair assumption? Going back to the network effect message, I don't know that marrying your solution to Debian, Knoppix, Red Hat, or what have you is the right way to go. It will be easier to get user

RE: [Hardhats-members] Starting point for next OpenVistA VivA

2005-08-30 Thread David Sommers
I believe we need to drive for the requirements first. What is the intent or the target audience of VivA? Is it as a method for easy installation that leads to production use, or easy instance that leads to demonstration? With the former, building a RPM or installable package is a favorable

Re: [Hardhats-members] COBOL advise needed

2005-08-30 Thread Chris Richardson
Kevin; There are ways of capturing the data. Obviously, if you can generate the information electronically, that would make the effort easier. There are probably pointer relationships which need to be preserved to make sense out of the information. Also if you have access to the data