, June 13, 2005 4:32 PM
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] XML data export
I want the practice to be able to say, we don't want
to use VistA anymore, dump all the progress notes to a
DVD so we can import them into another system.
Kevin
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I want the practice to be able to say, we don't want
to use VistA anymore, dump all the progress notes to
a
DVD so we can import them into another system.
Kevin
You guys know about CCR?
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My understanding of XML is that you
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My understanding of XML is that you try to make your
tags as self explainatory as possible (i.e. PATIENT
NAME, DATE OF BIRTH), and then hire a programmer to
import the data into the next system--hopefully in a
relatively
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In what manner do you mean know about? There have been articles published
discussing it, etc., so there is a general awareness of it with many
physicians. Also, there is a conference this week that the AAFP is putting
Greg, Joseph, Hardhats:
These efforts do complement each other. Historically, there have been
sveral efforts and in the early 1990s the CEN TC-251 had an active effort
going to block out the conceptual framework for the EHR at the same time
that DHCP and CHCS were actively being intoduced into
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OK. So it would be most helpful to do one's XML
export using tags that everyone agrees on. But this
is apparently still an evolving area
of the site).
/David.
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OK. So it would
Greg,
Your code has been very helpful.
I don't fully understand these lines
.S X=$P(^DD(FNUM,.01,0),^,2)
.S WP=$S(X=W:1,X=WL:2,1:0)
When the second piece=W, or WL, what is the
significance of these codes? You don't seem to use WP
in your code.
Thanks
Kevin
--- Greg
That's right. The point of this code is to quickly traverse a file
entry without actually making FM calls. I don't do anything special
with WP fields here, so that value isn't used. However, if you actually
wanted to do something with the data, you'd want to know if a subfile
was a multiple, or if
When I look at file 8925, field 2 is a WP field, but I
don't see the W or WL symbols. Only a node
specification of TEXT. And in instances of processing
the TEXT node, when I tried to print WP, it was 0 (as
expected per the code).
So I don't see that the W symbol is being used.
Kevin
GTMzwr
My mistake. Try looking at the .01 field of the subfile associated with
the WP field. You should see something like
^DD(8925.02,.01,0) = REPORT TEXT^W^^0;1^Q
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When I look at file 8925, field 2 is a WP field, but I
don't see the W or WL symbols.
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When I look at file 8925, field 2 is a WP field, but I
don't see the W or WL
that file works.
thurman
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OK. So it would be most helpful to do one's XML
export using tags that everyone agrees on. But this
is apparently still an evolving area, where consensus
has not been
Thanks Greg. I decided to go ahead and use FIELD^DID
to get the information. I'm concerned that I wouldn't
be aware of all the variations on a theme that I might
encounter.
Kevin
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My mistake. Try looking at the .01 field of the
subfile associated
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When I look at file 8925, field 2 is a WP field,
but I
don't see the W or WL symbols. Only a node
specification of TEXT. And in instances of
processing
You should use the Fileman APIs, anyway. I wrote this for a daemon
process that I wanted to be as light on the system as possible.
--- Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Greg. I decided to go ahead and use FIELD^DID
to get the information. I'm concerned that I wouldn't
be
OK,
I now have a program that will dump out data from the
files in XML format. It takes an array something like
this:
Array(8925,1234)
Array(8925,1235)
Array(8925,1236)
Array(8925,1237)
Array(200,73)
Array(22705,*)
And dumps the records in XML.
Currenly the tags are just the Labels
I
am not sure I understand the issue.
Jim
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OK,
I now have a program that will dump out data
I assume you know about the RPC to get notes by patient/provider for a given
time interval, and you need something else?
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Hee's a slightly modified version of some code I wrote to recursively
traverse a file entry. You could probably adapt it to produce an XML
serialization of the file. (Note that I originally wrote this using
GETS^DIQ, but according to my benchmarks, that version was much too
slow).
I want the practice to be able to say, we don't want
to use VistA anymore, dump all the progress notes to a
DVD so we can import them into another system.
Kevin
--- Gillon, Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I assume you know about the RPC to get notes by
patient/provider for a given
time
Of course, if you just dump the progress notes to a file, won't they
still be in a proprietary format? It seems that what you need is an
EHR standard that supports interoperability. This is where I hope to go
with Triton and/or Orpheus.
--- Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I want the
My understanding of XML is that you try to make your
tags as self explainatory as possible (i.e. PATIENT
NAME, DATE OF BIRTH), and then hire a programmer to
import the data into the next system--hopefully in a
relatively painless manner.
Kevin
--- Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Of
Well, yes, but interpreting the data properly doesn't occur magically.
Choosing good tag names is a start, but I wouldn't depend on the
programmer to get it right. I've been developing interfaces for the
past few years and have seen numerous cases of subtle differnces in how
different programmers
Thanks for the code. I may well use it.
Thanks
Kevin
--- Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hee's a slightly modified version of some code I
wrote to recursively
traverse a file entry. You could probably adapt it
to produce an XML
serialization of the file. (Note that I originally
I am ignorant in this area. What is MOF and XMI? Is
it a standard output format I should follow?
Kevin
--- Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Well, yes, but interpreting the data properly
doesn't occur magically.
Choosing good tag names is a start, but I wouldn't
depend on the
Greg have you looked into the OpenEHR initiativeit is attempting to
develop a usable EHR standard.
Joseph
Greg Woodhouse wrote:
Of course, if you just dump the progress notes to a file, won't they
still be in a proprietary format? It seems that what you need is an
EHR standard that
No, but I will.
--- Joseph Dal Molin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greg have you looked into the OpenEHR initiativeit is attempting
to
develop a usable EHR standard.
Joseph
Greg Woodhouse wrote:
Of course, if you just dump the progress notes to a file, won't
they
still be in a
There are ASTM standards on the Structure and Conent of the EHR that are
consistent with ADA standards on the EHR; These are conceptual content
standards that have had historic support of AHIMA. Thye also have some
consistency with HL7 messaaging structures and have been in touch with the
Everybody does seem to be getting. I just went to OMG to download the
MOF standard, and notice that on their main page they are talking about
their involvement with EHR standards, too. Of course, there is HL7 who,
in addition to the RIM and CDA has an EHR-S effort underway. I know
about CCR, but
Just to clarify...I didn't mean to imply OpenEHR doesn't contribute
anything new. What I DID mean is that I do not yet see it (after maybe
an hour or two of reading).
--- Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Everybody does seem to be getting. I just went to OMG to download the
MOF standard,
OK. So it would be most helpful to do one's XML
export using tags that everyone agrees on. But this
is apparently still an evolving area, where consensus
has not been reached.
So in the mean time, I think I will try to design a my
XML export system such that the end user can choose to
simply
dig up anything quickly.
(I suggest a search of the site).
/David.
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In fact, I think this work is quite interesting, especially since it
seems to have quite an affinity with an area in which I have a
particular interest (applications of formal logic to computation and
modeling of complex systems). But at this stage, it isn't clear to me
how these ideas can
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