Hello Hayes,
Saturday, May 12, 2007, 9:10:50 PM, you wrote:
Tons of WD raptors DOA here, but none have failed on me (36, 74 or 150GB)
once they spun up.
Same, the one bad one I had was bad out of the box.
The only consistency in the hardware industry is inconsistency.
Well said.
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From: Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 11:42 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Seagate drive died
I think it has more to do with how drives are shipped from the vendor.
Vendors use to send these out
You bring some interesting points, Chuck. I looked at two HDs yesterday.
One is 500 GB external for $130 with a 5 yr warranty, and the other is a
320 GB external for $100 with a 1 yr warranty. The 500 GB is cheaper in
terms of $/GB, but that warranty was the reason I bought it, in spite of
At 12:42 AM 13/05/2007, Winterlight wrote:
The only consistency in the hardware industry is inconsistency.
I think it has more to do with how drives are shipped from the
vendor. Vendors use to send these out in boxes with big foam
inserts, but now you are lucky if they secure it in bubble
Chuck,
Your argument is centered around the proposition that there is such a
concept as a 1 year drive and a 3/5 year drive.
I'm sorry, but that is just patently incorrect. First, the logistics of
having two production lines with different procurement processes just isn't
economical. Then,
At 12:30 PM 13/05/2007, Greg Sevart wrote:
In short: A drive with a 1-year warranty is no more or less reliable than a
drive with a 5-year warranty.
While your argument seems sound, it doesn't appear to agree with real
world testing. I have seen EB and BB drives fail by a factor of at
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From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 12:47 PM
Subject: RE: [H] Seagate drive died
While your argument seems sound, it doesn't appear to agree with real
world testing. I have seen
Makes no difference, vendor is not much of a factor.
From: Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [H] Seagate drive died
Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 20:42:41 -0700
The only consistency in
Almost all drives I purchase are from ZZF. The failure rate of the raptors
specifically is documented through purchases from them.
From: Greg Sevart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Greg Sevart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 2:41 PM
Subject: RE: [H] Seagate drive died
Thane, you also mentioned that most of the failures you see are in
big-vendor boxes...is it possible
Naturally most all components function better in a large, well
ventilated
case with an adequate power supply. Who but Dell is famous for omitting
the
CPU fan in many models. They rely on shrouding the airflow through a
rear
exhaust vent fan. That, along with the power supply fan makes a
How do you log on to ZZF?
I seem to get a MEGAGO WEB directory.
Sam
Hayes Elkins wrote:
Almost all drives I purchase are from ZZF. The failure rate of the
raptors specifically is documented through purchases from them.
ZZF is short for ZipZoomFly, website here: http://www.zipzoomfly.com/
:)
Greg
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Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 3:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [H] Seagate drive died
How
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From: Greg Sevart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 4:20 PM
Subject: RE: [H] Seagate drive died
Speaking only regarding the CPU, the thermal solutions I see on many Dell
machines (esp. Dimension
At 03:41 PM 13/05/2007, Greg Sevart wrote:
for a given model, there is no difference in reliability or quality between
a drive sold with a 1 year warranty vs. one sold with a 3 or 5 year
warranty. A good example is WD: internal retail packaged drives, regardless
of model*, carry a one-year
Hello Thane,
Sunday, May 13, 2007, 11:47:38 AM, you wrote:
While your argument seems sound, it doesn't appear to agree with real
world testing. I have seen EB and BB drives fail by a factor of at
least a factor of 5 over JB drives. The EB/BB line are WD's one year
warranty drives (with
Bah, for MP3's only I'd look into Sansa.
For video use the Creative Zen Vision W is worth it
for screen alone
even if it is mired in Microsoft's MTP. There is also
Archos, Wolverine
if you need heavy storage bigger screen than iPod +
video.
Joe User wrote:
Think I am going to go with the
ASI? Reputation, hahahahaha. Somehting change in the
past 10 years with
them? They're nothing special from memory, no better
or worse than ZZF
or NE. When a drive dies it's not the resellers fault
and they simply
pass the buck onto the OEM vendor. Resllers sell what
sells makes
profit, not
That thermal hood method is a recommended solution
last time I checked
and the fan in my GX260 moves more air than standard
cpu fan + case fan
setup IMO. 5400 RPM drives run cooler (and slower),
hence why they are
used in set top cable TV DVR boxes by SA the like.
Granted this does nothing
Many of us have over the years Chuck, if a customer
understood that they
wouldn't need you to build it for them. PRICE
PERCEIVED size speed
of different vendors complete systems (and software
for some dumb
reason) drive customer choices and decisions over who
to buy from not
what
In general, people who are saving up $3-$10 on a $50 HDD are putting drives in
a bad condition (MBs, PSUs, etc.) and generally cheap out across the board.
A JB HDD combined with a Deer 355W PSU is probably more likely to fail then
say, a BB combined with an Antec PSU and a good MB/cooling
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/05/28/100033867/index.htm
Aside from the story, look at the url. Either I'm still hung over and
senseless or is that back to the future i.e 2007/05/28
I think that's because that's the print issue it iwll appear in.
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From: Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 17:26:39 -0700
To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] OT: Microsoft takes on the free world
We have the Panasonic KX-TG5672B 5.8 GHz FHSS GigaRange Digital Cordless
Answering System with Dual Handsets
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F8L506/sr=1-2/qid=1179106326/ref=dp_cp_
ob_title_3/103-0168144-8480605?ie=UTF8qid=1179106326sr=1-2
and have not had any problems either. I'd say that
Am I going to see a real world difference in upgrading from a 3700+ AMD64
single core (2.2 GHz) to a 4200+ AMD64 X2 (2.2 GHz) or 2.2 GHz dual core
Opteron? Enough to justify the $125-$235 expense? Main cpu intensive use is
video editing with Nero 6.6 and xvid coding using AutoGK. Appreciate the
Hello Thane,
Friday, May 11, 2007, 2:49:30 PM, you wrote:
At 04:39 PM 11/05/2007, Joe User wrote:
Hello Thane,
Friday, May 11, 2007, 11:22:34 AM, you wrote:
Does anyone know if I can run a batch file at startup when starting
in Safe Mode? I know some things start, so I'm thinking there's
You will see a difference under two scenarios: 1) you are using a
program that recognizes and can take advantage of 2 CPUs or 2) you do
more than 1 CPU intensive task at once.
I don't know if Nero/AutoGK are multi-CPU aware or not.
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Brian
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