Heh. I agree. I just was too busy in the VM/class library fire-
fight :)
So, given that my foray into architecture discussion was such a
stunning success, would you like to start the discussion of such a
thing might be approached? (Please change the subject, of course...)
geir
On Jun 8
>
> Hi all,
>
> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
>
> > a) Having a copy of src.jar on a computer as long as you never
> >viewed or edited the contents of the file.
> >
> How many people on this list have NEVER looked (not edited)
> at, say, java.lang.String?
>
> If you want people with ex
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Dalibor Topic wrote:
> > Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> >
> > > a) Having a copy of src.jar on a computer as long as you never
> > >viewed or edited the contents of the file.
At least in the Linux versions 1.5.0_03 and 1.4.2_05 of the J2SE
SDK there is no file src.ja
Dalibor Topic wrote:
Many people don't see the need to look at non-free software in
general, and chances are pretty slim that anyone I know will ever get
that bored and out of reading material to accept the 'Read only'
license, for an example of a very funny non-free software license.
I have
Nacho G. Mac Dowell wrote:
Hi all,
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
a) Having a copy of src.jar on a computer as long as you never
viewed or edited the contents of the file.
How many people on this list have NEVER looked (not edited) at, say,
java.lang.String?
Many, I'd think. To avoid
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 14:54 +0200, Nacho G. Mac Dowell wrote:
> How many people on this list have NEVER looked (not edited) at, say,
> java.lang.String?
Me. And all other GNU Classpath contributors on this list. At least 3 of
the 9 listed in the proposal as possible commiters.
> If you want peo
Peter Donald wrote:
Hi,
Some of those tools probably will tie into JVM specific features but I
am sure that they could be built on top of Suns JVM and then re-targeted
for Harmony when it is sufficiently advanced.
I think apt, jconsole, rmid and keytool would be most interesting, as
for th
Apparently, only you and I agree. ;-)
Dalibor Topic wrote:
Richard S. Hall wrote:
To me, this is the point. I would like to see all of the libraries
built on to of the JVM to be packaged in a more module-like fashion,
so that their exports and imports are explicit. There would be many
bene
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
And you can circumvent the language protection (package private...) if
you work hard enough too, I believe...
Could you elaborate on that?
cheers,
dalibor topic
Richard S. Hall wrote:
To me, this is the point. I would like to see all of the libraries built
on to of the JVM to be packaged in a more module-like fashion, so that
their exports and imports are explicit. There would be many benefits if
this were done, rather than relying on the current appro
There has been some discussion as to where to find
the later updates to the class file format specification.
Two have been offered, as noted in the original e-mails
below:
(A) UpdatedClassFileFormat.pdf being downloaded from
http://java.sun.com/docs/books/vmspec/2nd-edition/UpdatedClassFileForma
On Jun 8, 2005, at 8:54 AM, Nacho G. Mac Dowell wrote:
Hi all,
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
a) Having a copy of src.jar on a computer as long as you never
viewed or edited the contents of the file.
How many people on this list have NEVER looked (not edited) at,
say, java.lang.St
On Jun 8, 2005, at 5:16 AM, Leo Simons wrote:
On 08-06-2005 00:08, "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I. Division of Repository
+1
II. Specific Access Control Lists
+1
We could consider setting up a totally separate SVN repo for this,
because
the svn-authorization fil
On Jun 8, 2005, at 5:09 AM, Leo Simons wrote:
On 07-06-2005 23:55, "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
First, as part of the Apache Harmony project, we keep a registry of
all 'bulk' contributions.
+1
Second, any contribution by an individual committer that is "bulk" -
a quan
Hi all,
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
a) Having a copy of src.jar on a computer as long as you never
viewed or edited the contents of the file.
How many people on this list have NEVER looked (not edited) at, say,
java.lang.String?
If you want people with extensive java knowledge to c
On Jun 8, 2005, at 12:07 AM, Phillip Rhodes wrote:
Sven de Marothy wrote:
Geir.. I really don't get your position here. The way I read your
arguments are: Harmony should spend time and energy
implementing Sun's class library interface, which is proprietary,
closed-source, unspecified, may
On Jun 8, 2005, at 3:02 AM, Jeroen Frijters wrote:
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
You are misrepresenting the problem. it's not that it's language
protection, but that you extend java.lang namespace and are hoping
that you don't get tromped by the spec at some point in the future.
(Nor is it clea
Ahmed Saad wrote:
Jikes RVM, Kaffe, SableVM, etc [implement Classpath-required
classes]> can use Classpath
Harmony VM [implement Classpath-required classes]> can use Classpath
Harmony VM [implement Sun rt.jar-required classes(??)] ---> can
use Sun rt.jar
Harmony VM [impl
On 08-06-2005 00:08, "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I. Division of Repository
+1
> II. Specific Access Control Lists
+1
We could consider setting up a totally separate SVN repo for this, because
the svn-authorization file would be the authoritive source of "tainting
info" and
On 07-06-2005 23:55, "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First, as part of the Apache Harmony project, we keep a registry of
> all 'bulk' contributions.
+1
> Second, any contribution by an individual committer that is "bulk" -
> a quantity of code that is "re-purposed", "re-licensed
Right,
I forgot to mention what happens in the case of a working contract... Sorry.
(But we are not linked with a working contract and the derogative article of
the intellectual property right you cite contains the very word "employees"
/ art. L113-9)
After checking a few sources it seems though t
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
> You are misrepresenting the problem. it's not that it's language
> protection, but that you extend java.lang namespace and are hoping
> that you don't get tromped by the spec at some point in the future.
> (Nor is it clear that it's good citizenship working in th
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