Re: Deleted version_svn_tag.h

2006-11-13 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Patch applied - please test Salikh Zakirov wrote: Nathan Beyer wrote: I deleted the file and added it to the ignore property. For those of us poor souls not using SVN directly this deletion broke the build, as the file version_svn_tag.h is not available directly now. The issue HARMONY-2168 p

Re: [doc][drlvm] The document "Getting started with DRL" is outdated

2006-11-13 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
as an intel person, you can remove an intel copyright. if it's an ASF copyright, you can remove that too from the document (it should be auto-generated at the bottom anyway) geir Egor Pasko wrote: On the 0x220 day of Apache Harmony Nadezhda Morozova wrote: -Original Message- From:

[drlvm] drlvm and gdb and shared libraries

2006-11-13 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
I have a dumb question - I was playing today with a toy launcher for DRLVM working out some embedding issues, and for the life of me, I couldn't get dgb to ever let me break on anything in a shared library. I loaded the vm via dlopen() an dlsym(), and the code runs fine. But even build in deb

Re: [general] Sun will take GPL License?

2006-11-13 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
though JCP. BTW, I like GPL as well:) Whatever, this is big step for > Java community. > > 在 06-11-13,Geir Magnusson Jr.<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写道: >> >> >> Jin Mingjian wrote: >> > But does Apache License make JDK out of control? I don't thin

Re: [general] Sun will take GPL License?

2006-11-13 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
#x27;t want broken Java. geir > > 在 06-11-13,Geir Magnusson Jr.<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写道: >> >> >> Jin Mingjian wrote: >> > GPL is not very compatible with Apache License. So, I guess Sun want >> > to prevent Harmony from using any codes they owned?! Ve

Re: [doc] Anybody tried DRLVM+Eclipse and can share? [WAS: Re: FW: [build] Building on Eclipse - FYI]

2006-11-12 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Behalf Of Egor Pasko Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 7:41 PM To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: FW: [build] Building on Eclipse - FYI On the 0x21C day of Apache Harmony Geir Magnusson, Jr. wrote: Egor Pasko wrote: On the 0x21C day of Apache Harmony Geir Magnusson, Jr. wrote: Egor Pa

Re: [general] Sun will take GPL License?

2006-11-12 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Jin Mingjian wrote: > GPL is not very compatible with Apache License. So, I guess Sun want > to prevent Harmony from using any codes they owned?! Very Very Very... No - it was simply about control. geir > > 在 06-11-13,LvJimmy,Jing<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写道: >> Oops!GPL v2? I can hardly believe it

Re: [general] Sun will take GPL License?

2006-11-12 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
LvJimmy,Jing wrote: > Oops!GPL v2? I can hardly believe it! Why? > Does it mean, all codes using Sun's JDK have to take GPL? No. geir > Crazy and unbelieveable... However I like GPL ;) > > 在06-11-13,Jin Mingjian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 写道: >> >> Mark Reinhold's blog has confirmed this news. He

Re: [drlvm][jvmti][testing] I want to add JVMTI tests to drlvm commit checks

2006-11-12 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Gregory Shimansky wrote: On Sunday 12 November 2006 00:39 Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Ok I think I've come up with a reasonable compromise. I still used the whole system of converting XML and all the stuff. It does quite a lot of things in setup and init targets and using is convenie

Re: [general] creation of "jdktools"

2006-11-12 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Can you please give us an idea of what you have right now? There's no way we can participate with you if we don't have an idea of current status... geir Ilya Neverov wrote: On 10/31/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [skip] > Assumptions which look reaso

Re: svn commit: r473588 - in /incubator/harmony/enhanced/drlvm/trunk/vm: interpreter/src/ port/src/lil/em64t/pim/ vmcore/include/ vmcore/src/util/em64t/base/

2006-11-12 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Thats what I thought I suggested, but don't see the email now... Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Gregory Shimansky wrote: On Saturday 11 November 2006 04:28 Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: gshimansky Date: Fri Nov 10 16:17:50 2006 New Rev

Re: svn commit: r473588 - in /incubator/harmony/enhanced/drlvm/trunk/vm: interpreter/src/ port/src/lil/em64t/pim/ vmcore/include/ vmcore/src/util/em64t/base/

2006-11-11 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Gregory Shimansky wrote: On Saturday 11 November 2006 04:28 Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: gshimansky Date: Fri Nov 10 16:17:50 2006 New Revision: 473588 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&rev=473588 Log: Applied HARMONY-2152 [drlvm][em64t] build is broken

Re: [drlvm][jvmti][testing] I want to add JVMTI tests to drlvm commit checks

2006-11-11 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Gregory Shimansky wrote: On Thursday 02 November 2006 23:24 Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: That's an understatement. Don't feel bad. I've never seen anything like it before. The idea of generating ant scripts on teh fly is very unconventional. . You don't have eno

Re: [legal] Export controls

2006-11-10 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
have fun! thanks for doing this. geir Tim Ellison wrote: I believe that Harmony should be complying with the US export controls for our JSE crypto enablement code, since it is 'specifically designed to enable cryptography' [1] and our developer releases contain the bouncy castle algorithm prov

Re: [drlvm] Class unloading support

2006-11-10 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
I wonder if you might want to create a new JIRA that's clear about what the point is, and close the class unload JIRa for now. geir Pavel Pervov wrote: On 11/10/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hang on - we aren't going to consider this patch quite yet, ar

Re: [drlvm] vote on class unloading design (was Class unloading support - tested one approach)

2006-11-10 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Etienne Gagnon wrote: Salikh Zakirov wrote: Etienne Gagnon wrote: The http://wiki.apache.org/harmony/ClassUnloading wiki page is "Immutable". How can I contribute to it? It is immutable for "anonymous" guests, you need to register and login somewhere. All pages are editable by all register

Re: [drlvm] vote on class unloading design (was Class unloading support - tested one approach)

2006-11-10 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Etienne Gagnon wrote: The http://wiki.apache.org/harmony/ClassUnloading wiki page is "Immutable". How can I contribute to it? Do you have a login to the wiki? [Among other things, I'd like to add that the design can also potentially apply to SableVM and , and make other suggestions / chan

Re: [general] Sun will take GPL License?

2006-11-10 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Ivan Volosyuk wrote: On 11/10/06, Dalibor Topic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. pobox.com> writes: > Classically, licensors seem to just make a statement about it. Yup, authors should know best what terms apply to their works. Practically speaking, if they went

Re: [drlvm] Class unloading support

2006-11-10 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
> propogate strong roots to all other classes (not only Bootstrap), > > something > > > > like: > > > > if (cl->IsBootstrap() *&& > > > > env->b_VTable_trace_is_not_supported_by_GC*) > > > > { > >

Re: Harmony passes all tests of Maven 2.0.4

2006-11-10 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
w00t! Log it on the wiki! (and please prefix your subject lines with ??? right now, we have [testing] listed on http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/mailing.html but maybe we need to add [app-testing] ? geir Leo Li wrote: Hi, all: Harmony classlib at revision 473150 passes all tests

Re: [testing] harmonytest.org new features

2006-11-10 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Nice! Anton Luht wrote: Hello, Yesterday I've deployed a new version to harmonytest.org New features include: - packages/suites/tests tree-like navigation (as in local JUnit html results).Tree navigation populated to old results, too. - the first page only includes 50 latest test runs, link to

Re: [general] what's the status of harmony support for em64?

2006-11-10 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Get ahold of yourself, man! You're going to get me fired! :) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/proc$ more cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 15 model : 4 model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.20GHz stepping: 4 cpu MHz : 3

Re: [general] Sun will take GPL License?

2006-11-10 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Dalibor Topic wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. pobox.com> writes: Classically, licensors seem to just make a statement about it. Yup, authors should know best what terms apply to their works. Practically speaking, if they went with the GPL, Sun could just say "it's not '

Re: [drlvm] release vs. debug

2006-11-10 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
ntains comments that > this check is passed, committers may test it on release build only. > > Thanks, > Pavel > > On 11/10/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Well, since the problem is repeatable :) > > > > > > Grego

Re: [drlvm] [ipf] I suggest a series of patches for ipf code generator

2006-11-10 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
can you please put comments like this on the JIRA itself [also]? it makes it easier for a committer when looking to apply the patch geir Egor Pasko wrote: On the 0x21D day of Apache Harmony Konstantin Anisimov wrote: Hi all, I have created new Jira request - HARMONY-2139. It is about: 1. Ad

Re: [doc][drlvm] The document "Getting started with DRL" is outdated

2006-11-10 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Morozova, Nadezhda wrote: Alexei, Tutorials might be fine for mature projects, but I do not think ours is ready for a big flow of users yet, that would require a tutorial. So +1 for having a nice good tutorial ... one day. If there are volunteers to write the tutorial now, I'd be happy to hel

Re: [doc][drlvm] The document "Getting started with DRL" is outdated

2006-11-10 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
We did put *some* thought into it ;) geir Egor Pasko wrote: On the 0x21D day of Apache Harmony Nadezhda Morozova wrote: Egor, I generally like the idea of improving navigation over the site - there's never too much of that. However, I am not sure whether we need yet another separate page for i

Re: [general] Sun will take GPL License?

2006-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Dalibor Topic wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. pobox.com> writes: Alexey Petrenko wrote: Java under GPL? It is probably bad news for Java developers... As far as I understand you'll can not create non GPL application on top of GPL Java... License gurus, is that right? GPL proponents cl

Re: [general] Sun will take GPL License?

2006-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Dalibor Topic wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. pobox.com> writes: I think that in order to really work for the "free-as-in-stallman" ;) community, someone will have to literally fork sun's GPL-ed implementation, as I'm guessing GPL advocates will want to be able t

Re: [classlib] Building on x86_64

2006-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Gregory Shimansky wrote: Hello Today I tried to check what happens on x86_64 and I think I've found some issues which need discussion 1. When classlib starts its built it tries to link 3 libraries and headers to depends/libs/build/{jpeg,lcms,png} directories. On x86_64 SuSE9 it has failed

Re: [drlvm][classlib] DaCapo benchmark regressions

2006-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Robin Garner wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Robin Garner wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Nice - we should put this on the website (maybe same place where we point to JAPI results). Are you tracking performance #'s over time? You are just tracking regression in terms of how

Re: [drlvm] vote on class unloading design (was Class unloading support - tested one approach)

2006-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Robin Garner wrote: Weldon Washburn wrote: It looks like I called for a vote too soon. The continuing discussion on class unloading design is uncovering many important issues. This is excellent as it is much better to deal with design issues at this stage rather than during implementation.

Re: [drlvm] vote on class unloading design (was Class unloading support - tested one approach)

2006-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Yeah, I was going to point that out this morning, but decided to let it go. There is really nothing technical to vote on here yet. This is more of a "poll" to get discussion going about preferred approaches, and see if we can drive to consensus on how to move forward. So for that, it was goo

Re: [Japi] Re: [Fwd: Re: Interesting discoveries playing around with japitools]

2006-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Stuart Ballard wrote: Japitools isn't affiliated with Classpath btw, I had Classpath in mind when I originally developed it, yes, and it's GPL licensed because I have a mild preference for that license, but I don't feel strongly about it. One of the reasons I started a Japitools list in fact w

Re: [drlvm] release vs. debug

2006-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Well, since the problem is repeatable :) Gregory Shimansky wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Alexei Zakharov wrote: Hi DRLVM fans, I encountered a rather strange problem while working on some class library tests. At least two tests from the beans module hang (or crash) while running on

Re: [Fwd: Re: Interesting discoveries playing around with japitools]

2006-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Stuart Ballard wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: David Gilbert wrote: > A boon? Not at all, Classpath will be (mostly) redundant and will fade > away, replaced by Sun's runtime. I'm not so convinced of that. GNU Classpath is under GPL + Exception, so arguably it's not

Re: [drlvm] release vs. debug

2006-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Alexei Zakharov wrote: Hi DRLVM fans, I encountered a rather strange problem while working on some class library tests. At least two tests from the beans module hang (or crash) while running on DRLVM debug builds but work fine on DRLVM release builds. I thought that debug build is something ab

Re: [DRLVM] General stability

2006-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Egor Pasko wrote: On the 0x21C day of Apache Harmony Mikhail Loenko wrote: 2006/11/9, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I do think of us having a 'zero regression' policy except in cases where we make the explicit decision to break. (like we did with TM, for exampl

Re: FW: [build] Building on Eclipse - FYI

2006-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Egor Pasko wrote: On the 0x21C day of Apache Harmony Geir Magnusson, Jr. wrote: Egor Pasko wrote: On the 0x21C day of Apache Harmony Geir Magnusson, Jr. wrote: Egor Pasko wrote: On the 0x21C day of Apache Harmony Sian January wrote: Hello again, I have had a closer look at the

Re: [drlvm][threading][build] HARMONY-1907 commit (r472524) breaks the build on SUSE9

2006-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Worked fine for me on Ubuntu 6 using gcc 3.4.3 Gregory Shimansky wrote: Thanks for spotting this. I'll check on SUSE and if reverting this patch helps, I'll revert it. I wonder why this doesn't break on more modern linuxes. Egor Pasko wrote: Guys, after commit of HARMONY-1907 (r472524) by G

Re: [Fwd: Re: Interesting discoveries playing around with japitools]

2006-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
David Gilbert wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Sun using the GPL is a boon for Classpath, so good for them - I'm not sure how they can actually use the Sun code, as Sun won't be granting copyright assignment to the FSF as GNU Classpath requires, and it's under a differe

Re: FW: [build] Building on Eclipse - FYI

2006-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Egor Pasko wrote: On the 0x21C day of Apache Harmony Geir Magnusson, Jr. wrote: Egor Pasko wrote: On the 0x21C day of Apache Harmony Sian January wrote: Hello again, I have had a closer look at the "Developing Apache Harmony Class-library Code with Eclipse" page, and I have no

Re: svn commit: r472149 - /incubator/harmony/enhanced/classlib/trunk/modules/beans/src/test/java/org/apache/harmony/beans/tests/java/beans/PersistenceDelegateTest.java

2006-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
definitely need it. And sooner is better. Regards, 2006/11/9, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Alexei Zakharov wrote: > Let me rephrase my question a little bit. What should we do in this > particular case when some test passes on J9 and HDK (DRLVM with > BUILD_CFG=rele

Re: [drlvm][classlib] DaCapo benchmark regressions

2006-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Robin Garner wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Nice - we should put this on the website (maybe same place where we point to JAPI results). Are you tracking performance #'s over time? You are just tracking regression in terms of how much runs, rather than how fast? geir Right now

Re: [continuum] BUILD FAILURE: Classlib/linux.ia32 Build/Test

2006-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Gregory Shimansky wrote: Ok I see now. I was just worried that it is something wrong with files being locked undeletable. Should continuum ignore this clean warning and try once more if it happens instead of reporting build failure? yes Tim Ellison wrote: Gregory Shimansky wrote: I've

Re: [doc][drlvm] The document "Getting started with DRL" is outdated

2006-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
yah, I've been pitching them when i run across them... :) geir Morozova, Nadezhda wrote: Those were the copyrights required by our legal at the donation time. I share your concern. We probably need a massive review/cleanup of our legal lines. The disclaimers (number and placement) varies betwee

Re: FW: [build] Building on Eclipse - FYI

2006-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Egor Pasko wrote: On the 0x21C day of Apache Harmony Sian January wrote: Hello again, I have had a closer look at the "Developing Apache Harmony Class-library Code with Eclipse" page, and I have noticed that the "Configuring Eclipse" and "Develop and Test Code" sections are quite class-libra

Re: [VM] Is it enough to replace the jre/bin/default directory to plug another VM?

2006-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
And I can't wait to see this fixed ;) geir Alexey Petrenko wrote: You should also copy hythr.dll to jdk\jre\bin directory. SY, Alexey 2006/11/9, Anton Rusanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I have Harmony classlib with IBM VME (call it my "main Harmony"). I want to try to run my code, which is a part

Re: [Fwd: Re: Interesting discoveries playing around with japitools]

2006-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
David Gilbert wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: The only real issue that we had is license incompatibility, but I thought there was goodwill everywhere to work where we could. Why don't we be honest and just admit that there is no goodwill between the projects? It was there, br

Re: svn commit: r472149 - /incubator/harmony/enhanced/classlib/trunk/modules/beans/src/test/java/org/apache/harmony/beans/tests/java/beans/PersistenceDelegateTest.java

2006-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Alexei Zakharov wrote: Let me rephrase my question a little bit. What should we do in this particular case when some test passes on J9 and HDK (DRLVM with BUILD_CFG=release) and fails/crashes on DRLVM with BUILD_CFG=debug? I have two examples of such tests already. 1) Fix DRLVM. 2) condition

Re: [drlvm][classlib] DaCapo benchmark regressions

2006-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Nice - we should put this on the website (maybe same place where we point to JAPI results). Are you tracking performance #'s over time? You are just tracking regression in terms of how much runs, rather than how fast? geir Robin Garner wrote: Weldon Washburn wrote: Fantastic! By the wa

Re: [drlvm][sablevm] Desing of Class Unloading Support

2006-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Weldon Washburn wrote: On 11/8/06, *Geir Magnusson Jr.* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: Weldon Washburn wrote: > On 11/7/06, Ivan Volosyuk < [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: >> >> On

Re: [general] Sun will take GPL License?

2006-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
David Gilbert wrote: No, and probably by design. If this is true, Sun's Java will fill the niche market for free-as-in-freedom runtimes, making it very hard for Harmony (and GNU Classpath) to find an audience. But if all you want is a free-as-in-freedom runtime, then the outcome is still gr

Re: [general] Sun will take GPL License?

2006-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Alexey Petrenko wrote: Java under GPL? It is probably bad news for Java developers... As far as I understand you'll can not create non GPL application on top of GPL Java... License gurus, is that right? It's a good question, but remember that Sun will be creating binaries and probably distr

Re: [general] Sun will take GPL License?

2006-11-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
It's somewhat of a no-op, IMO. Sun had a very difficult decision to make wrt licensing. They had quite a few competing forces to deal with such as : 1) How to try maintain whatever 'control' over compatibility they currently have. (I do think this is just them "fighting the last war", as I

Re: [Cocoon] Cocoon 2.1.9 works on Harmony

2006-11-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Alexey Petrenko wrote: 2006/11/8, Anton Rusanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Cocoon 2.1.9 now works on Harmony (IBM VME + Classlib)! It starts and works normally. YAY! * While checking up the "Hello, World!" sample it was discovered that Cocoon failed to display the JPEG representation of that

Re: FW: [build] Building on Eclipse - FYI

2006-11-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Sian January wrote: Hi Sveta, Yes - I'm happy to take a look at that page. I was just thinking that if we remove the "Am I Eligible?" section we should probably make sure it is somewhere else. My proposal is to add it to the "Get Involved" page - http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/get-inv

Re: [stats] harmony cost 46M$ to write

2006-11-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
I'll sell you a copy for only $20M geir Tim Ellison wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: So, according to Wheeler's metric, Harmony would have taken 46 million dollars to build. If anyone's interested I'll rewrite it for only $40M (upfront)... ...but it will require an advance in medical techno

Re: [drlvm] [ipf] I suggest a series of patches for ipf code generator

2006-11-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Egor Pasko wrote: On the 0x21A day of Apache Harmony Mikhail Fursov wrote: On 07 Nov 2006 18:38:23 +0600, Egor Pasko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * the relative path is still 'working_vm/vm/jitrino/src/codegenerator/ipf', but 'working_vm' would be better. (this is a minor issue, just for futu

Re: [compatibility] Compatibility guideline and HARMONY-2085

2006-11-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
I think we should be compatible as possible. People do depend on the output (sadly). Sun does (did) recognize this problem, and started documenting the output of toString()... geir Alexey Petrenko wrote: Guys, have we agreed on toString compatibility? Our compatibility guideline [1] says n

Re: [Fwd: Re: Interesting discoveries playing around with japitools]

2006-11-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Stuart Ballard wrote: On 11/7/06, Stefano Mazzocchi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (Yes, the japitools list is on an FSF server. I really really hope > that this isn't going to be a political problem for you guys. I > selected Savannah for hosting japitools before Harmony even existed, > becaus

Re: [drlvm][sablevm] Desing of Class Unloading Support

2006-11-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Weldon Washburn wrote: On 11/7/06, Ivan Volosyuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 07 Nov 2006 14:35:55 +0600, Egor Pasko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I already have one idea how to benefit from movable vtables. There would have to be a very compelling argument for making vtables movable. L

Re: [drlvm] questions on class unloading (JIRA H2000) and cleaning class.h (JIRA H1558)

2006-11-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
so, how did it go? Weldon Washburn wrote: On 11/7/06, Gregory Shimansky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Friday 03 November 2006 19:18 Weldon Washburn wrote: > H1558 has been a big battle to get it into committable shape. I would > really like to commit it first. (In fact, Pavel and I are worki

Re: [drlvm] dynamic object layout

2006-11-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Rana Dasgupta wrote: Again, this makes sense. Functional completenes is needed, but over a period, based on when we want to release. Identifying a couple of milestones before 1.0 for which we choose features to complete, and performance objectives can help. For each, we can add a bug-fix/stab

Re: [jira] Closed: (HARMONY-1993) A stress test for young generational allocation that measures allocation rate

2006-11-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Should we pull it out then? More test good! Rana Dasgupta wrote: On 11/5/06, Weldon Washburn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>On 11/5/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> first, can we also use this test for gcv4.1? >> Yes. The test is a

Re: [DRLVM] General stability

2006-11-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Fedotov, Alexei A wrote: Alexey Petrenko wrote, The only release I can imagine is Harmony Java5SE 100% compatible. To be Java5SE 100% compatible we need TCK first. +1 Yes - and I still think that talk of a release is a bit premature right now. The key things that I believe we need to foc

Re: [drlvm][jit] Moving jet to the top level of drlvm...

2006-11-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
I don't care about "cool", nor do I have any urge to separate jet if it's not separable. That said, I care about portability. How hard will it be to port jet and opt to a new chip - say PPC? geir Egor Pasko wrote: Refactoring Pros: * more "logical" structure, looking cool Refactoring Cons:

Re: [drlvm] building jitrino in release mode

2006-11-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
eleaase to - Dvm.jitrino.cfg=debug) and debug version of library was built without any problems. On 11/6/06, Alex Astapchuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: > > > Alex Astapchuk wrote: >> Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: >>> I've been having som

Re: [classlib]Harmony classlib with J9 VM passes all the tests provided by JUnit4.1

2006-11-06 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Paulex Yang wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Paulex Yang wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: did we decide not to go to TestNG? Sigh...I guess there must be too many ones have waited too long for TestNG...(including me) I don't understand - what do you mean? Nothing but a joke:). I

Re: [drlvm] building jitrino in release mode

2006-11-06 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Alex Astapchuk wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: I've been having some problems getting some test cases to exhibit misbehavior for DRLVM, and it turns out that jitrino is built in release mode no matter what BUILD_CFG is set to. Yes, this is a long-long story. Was done as &#x

Re: [drlvm] building jitrino in release mode

2006-11-06 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
That's distressing. I usually throw in a build clean every now and then - I'm almost sure I did it early yesterday or sat at the earliest and did a full build, so whatever I committed in the last two days is problematic. Not clear what though... geir Robin Garner wrote: I've been having so

Re: [drlvm][jit] Moving jet to the top level of drlvm...

2006-11-06 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Alex Astapchuk wrote: Pavel Pervov wrote: Hello, community, Working through DRLVM sources I (once again) looked at organization of jitrino code. Actually, there are two JITs hidden inside "jitrino": JET and OPT. As far as I may observe - these two are code-independent from each other. JIT-

[drlvm] building jitrino in release mode

2006-11-05 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
I've been having some problems getting some test cases to exhibit misbehavior for DRLVM, and it turns out that jitrino is built in release mode no matter what BUILD_CFG is set to. Putting this inconsistency aside for a moment, how do I get jitrino to build in debug? I tried changing the sett

Re: [classlib]Harmony classlib with J9 VM passes all the tests provided by JUnit4.1

2006-11-05 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Paulex Yang wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: did we decide not to go to TestNG? Sigh...I guess there must be too many ones have waited too long for TestNG...(including me) I don't understand - what do you mean? geir Paulex - being desperate Leo Li wrote: Ya, I think we can. I

Re: [jira] Closed: (HARMONY-1993) A stress test for young generational allocation that measures allocation rate

2006-11-05 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
first, can we also use this test for gcv4.1? Second, shouldn't you test now to make sure that all is well? It will be much harder to figure out later... geir weldon washburn (JIRA) wrote: [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-1993?page=all ] weldon washburn closed HARMONY-199

Re: [drlvm][unit] Closing H-1679, H-1722

2006-11-05 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Fedotov, Alexei A wrote: Anton, Is it ok to close the following issues? * HARMONY-1679 Timer.schedule(TimerTask, delay, period) doesn't cause repetitive invocation of task * HARMONY-1722 notify() in synchronized section makes wait(long) wait forever I don't know about 1679, but I agree ab

Re: [drlvm] more self-dependent VM tasks, newbies welcome

2006-11-05 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Salikh Zakirov wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Only further thought - how do I get to this page? Maybe I'm not seeing it. From front page, there is the "TODO list" for DRLVM, but there's no link to the 'newbie" page. that's not a problem, as long as t

Re: [drlvm] Development plan

2006-11-05 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Robin Garner wrote: We have a really difficult job to do in the next 7.5 months - to get to a compatible 1.0* - so I'd like to encourage people to remain as focused as we can to get to that point. That doesn't mean this isn't fun, but the way I see it, we have a few focused months of efforts b

Re: [general] Interesting discoveries playing around with japitools

2006-11-05 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Being a sucker for statistics and charts, I've decided to look into japitools myself and regenerate the graph of API coverage progress of harmony. In doing so, I started to familiarize myself with the Japitools and I found a few interesting discoveries: the latest vers

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor - CHECKPOINT

2006-11-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Tim Ellison wrote: Etienne Gagnon wrote: I'm proposing to simply use "precise svn url/version identification" as markup: As long as we are *sure* that the releasetarget code was built from precisely that url/version (without any "local workspace" modification) then it should be as precise a

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor - an attempt at [even more] clarity

2006-11-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Tim Ellison wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Because I can imagine that as a SE programmer, I would want 1 of 2 things : 1) clean code to work on for a specific target (say SE 5) 2) a hybrid version of your dev1 that only has the glop for a subset of the platforms (say just Java SE 5 and

Re: [classlib]Harmony classlib with J9 VM passes all the tests provided by JUnit4.1

2006-11-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
did we decide not to go to TestNG? Leo Li wrote: Ya, I think we can. I would like the new features in JUnit4, but it is written in a quite different style from current harmony test codes. Migrate them? Besides, it is related with the thread of JUnit best practice discussing now. We need to make

Re: [drlvm] Is it time to say goodbye to dear friend GC v4?

2006-11-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
ss on * harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org * -- Ivan On 11/3/06, Mikhail Fursov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 11/3/06, Geir Magnusson Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From that argument, I'm now against dro

Re: [drlvm] dynamic object layout

2006-11-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Alexei Fedotov wrote: Weldon, I agree with you that it is nearly impossible to achieve stability for a branch under active development. From the other side, adding new features is fun, and also has a reason behind it. If we strive for a complete implementation of J2SE, we cannot avoid this ty

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor - out of the abstractness came forth concreteness

2006-11-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Etienne Gagnon wrote: Tim Ellison wrote: I'll wait until you have a simple contrived example working and settled upon some syntax for mark-up, then I'll help to mark-up some real example and test the tooling. Let me know when you have something ready to try. Yes, I have to figure out some

Re: Japi diffs for harmony

2006-11-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
I wonder if you can do a neat dump of the harmony svn archive in a "lump" for local processing. This is one interesting difference between CVS and SVN - you can always take a copy of the CVS data just for the files you care about. I don't know enough about SVN to know if you can get the equiv

Re: [drlvm][icl] Fix for the gc_gen compilation problem with Intel Compiler, windows

2006-11-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
How about fixing the intel compiler? :) I suppose there's no harm, and if so, we'll find out... Alexei Fedotov wrote: +1 for committing A declaration VmThreadHandle h; is converts to (void*) h; Intel compiler doesn't understand type names in brackets. This is a fix for http://issues.apache.or

Re: Brush up Harmony pages

2006-11-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Alexey Petrenko wrote: Alexei, thanks for catching this. Link is corrected. BTW. I do not see the changes on the Harmony site for a long time after update. Is that OK? Good caching? :) Yep - stuff is rsynched every few hours out to production site from minotaur. geir SY, Alexey 2006/

Re: [drlvm] HARMONY-1635 heap iteration WAS: [general] version of GCC...

2006-11-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
fixed. sorry. Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Yep, I broke it. I just noticed. (I didn't read mail last night after a certain point...) Sorry - will fix ASAP. geir Ilya Berezhniuk wrote: Hi, I'm trying to build DRLVM, but it doesn't compile (slot.h, jvmti_heap.h cannot be f

Re: [drlvm] I screwed up a commit...

2006-11-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
fixed. Sorry Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: and didn't include all files. I need to go back and ensure I get it right. Apologies. Will get fixed ASAP, but have a small family issue to attend to right now. geir

Re: [drlvm] HARMONY-1635 heap iteration WAS: [general] version of GCC...

2006-11-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Yep, I broke it. I just noticed. (I didn't read mail last night after a certain point...) Sorry - will fix ASAP. geir Ilya Berezhniuk wrote: Hi, I'm trying to build DRLVM, but it doesn't compile (slot.h, jvmti_heap.h cannot be found). It looks like it's because commit r470903 for HARMONY-16

Re: Behaving differently than RI

2006-11-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Mike Ringrose wrote: Before submitting a bug to JIRA, I was curious to know, how exact should Harmony behave when compared to the RI. For example, the code below produces different results when compared to the RI. DecimalFormat f = new DecimalFormat(".1"); System.out.println(f.format(17.

Re: [DRLVM] General stability

2006-11-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Weldon Washburn wrote: Folks, I have spent the last two months committing patches to the VM. While we have added a ton of much needed functionality, the stability of the system has been ignored. By chance, I looked at thread synchronization design problems this week. Its very apparent that

[drlvm] I screwed up a commit...

2006-11-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
and didn't include all files. I need to go back and ensure I get it right. Apologies. Will get fixed ASAP, but have a small family issue to attend to right now. geir

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor - out of the abstractness came forth concreteness

2006-11-03 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Tim Ellison wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: As fun as this discussion is, it's all theoretical. There's no harm in a bit of fun :-) So how about we create a sandbox in SVN and copy over a few types to mark-up while Etienne is developing the processor, and we can all watch t

Re: [drlvm] HARMONY-1635 heap iteration WAS: [general] version of GCC...

2006-11-03 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Salikh Zakirov wrote: Gregory Shimansky wrote: I think you could use 4.1.0 in Fedora Core 5. Since patch level shouldn't really affect the C++ compilation restrictions, the same patch should break on 4.1.0 as well. Gregory, I've looked at harmony-1635.patch you've uploaded to HARMONY-1635,

Re: [drlvm][jit] Moving jet to the top level of drlvm...

2006-11-03 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Pavel Pervov wrote: Hello, community, Working through DRLVM sources I (once again) looked at organization of jitrino code. Actually, there are two JITs hidden inside "jitrino": JET and OPT. As far as I may observe - these two are code-independent from each other. JIT-guys, could you comment

Re: svn commit: r470310 - in /incubator/harmony/standard/site: README.txt docs/contributors.html xdocs/contributors.xml

2006-11-03 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
pull step 1 and 6 out of that readme? Regards, Oliver Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Oliver Deakin wrote: I think you might be right - I just made a change to test, ran the Ant build script without altering the css location, and it looked ok to me. Perhaps there are some pages that don't gen

Re: [classlib] Preprocessor - an attempt at [even more] clarity

2006-11-03 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Etienne Gagnon wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: [...] 2) Master is virtual, dev1..N are concrete, one dev form is Most Favored Nation Status so something coherent can be shoved into SVN (Q: is MFNS necessary? Nice, yes, but necessary?) I definitely think that it is necessary (where J2SE5 is

Re: [drlvm][x86_64] BBP is broken on Linux/x86_64

2006-11-03 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
You should be able to just put them in, ensure they don't break x86, and let the people w/ _64 systems to check geir Gregory Shimansky wrote: Salikh Zakirov wrote: Hi, DRLVM on Linux/x86_64 has been broken for quite some time, since commit [r467997] HARMONY-1942, back-branch polling TLS off

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