Leo Simons wrote:
Whoohooh! An actual vi-vs-emacs discussion! Now we are *really* getting started!
vi is quite a lot ahead of emacs.
http://jvi.sourceforge.net/ versus http://jemacs.sourceforge.net/
But anyone who chooses either must love to type a *lot* :)
--
Thorbjørn
Leo Simons wrote:
Whoohooh! An actual vi-vs-emacs discussion! Now we are *really* getting
started!
ed is the one true editor.
cheers,
dalibor topic,
patiently awaiting the first ruby on rails vs. java discussion on this
list :)
Hi Rivaaj,
On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 17:07 +0200, Rivaaj Jumna wrote:
This may be a bit off topic but what does a harmony developers desktop look
like? My reason for asking is that I've been groomed on developing using an
ide in the windows environemnt, Visual Studio 6.0 and the like.
What sort
Sure, let?s all just forget about cheese-burgers fries and start eating
vegetables because they are really healthy food and sustain as any other
one (:-P). You could still use vi (i some times do), as you can still
program asc under 8086, but if you really want to increase your
that Rodrigo Kumpera and
Robin Garner would be happy if I did so... ;-)
Dan Lydick
[Original Message]
From: Tanuj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 10/25/05 9:29:49 AM
Subject: Re: MSVC support, was: Compilers and configuration tools
The Boost project [http
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 10/25/05 9:29:49 AM
Subject: Re: MSVC support, was: Compilers and configuration tools
The Boost project [http://www.boost.org] could probably serve as a
knowledge source on how difficult it is to support multiple compilers
for the same codebase
[Original Message]
From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
Date: 10/26/05 4:10:38 AM
Subject: Re: MSVC support, was: Compilers and configuration tools
please, just check them in... don't worry too much about the polish :)
geir
Okay, I'll do
Rivaaj Jumna wrote:
Hi
This may be a bit off topic but what does a harmony developers desktop
look
like? My reason for asking is that I've been groomed on developing
using an
ide in the windows environemnt, Visual Studio 6.0 and the like.
What sort of tools would one use on a Linux
Sorry to add yet more options; a vast array of choices isn't always a
good thing ;-) I use dev-cpp to compile with gcc under Windows. That
said, I've also played a little with lcc and it does look good. Another
option I used to use is Vide on top of Borland's free compiler.
Just about staying
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[Original Message]
From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
Date: 10/26/05 4:10:38 AM
Subject: Re: MSVC support, was: Compilers and configuration tools
please, just check them in... don't worry too much about
Hey,
It is only the actual IDE that is commercial, with the Express
Editions estimated to cost $49 per copy (although the betas are free,
as Devanum pointed out).
Right - but still - we can't force people to go buy Express.
Just to clear up any confusion, the VC++ 2003 command line
Greetings,
Tanuj Mathur wrote:
Hey,
It is only the actual IDE that is commercial, with the Express
Editions estimated to cost $49 per copy (although the betas are free,
as Devanum pointed out).
Right - but still - we can't force people to go buy Express.
Just to clear up any
I think Tanuj was just comparing the similarities GCC and VC++ in terms
of free download. I didnt see him mention anywhere that he doesnt like
the GPL license on GCC :)
Francisco Andrades Grassi wrote:
Greetings,
Tanuj Mathur wrote:
Hey,
It is only the actual IDE that is commercial,
Right now, I think that we're all interested in seeing support for
whatever compilers people are willing to support.
So if we have support for both GCC and MSVC++ on Windows, so much the
better for the project.
geir
On Oct 25, 2005, at 10:15 AM, Francisco Andrades Grassi wrote:
Hi Francisco,
That's not correct. GCC is Free Software, VC++ 2003 compiler, although a
free-of-charge download, is propritary software (you don't have access
to the source and can't create derivative works under any circumstance).
My comparison of GCC and MSVC was in terms of usage and cost
Hi
This may be a bit off topic but what does a harmony developers desktop look
like? My reason for asking is that I've been groomed on developing using an
ide in the windows environemnt, Visual Studio 6.0 and the like.
What sort of tools would one use on a Linux environment, eclipse cdt
perhaps?
Lol, fair enough :-)
What about debugging tools? What would you suggest to get started with?
On 10/25/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rivaaj Jumna wrote:
Hi
This may be a bit off topic but what does a harmony developers desktop
look
like? My reason for asking is that
: Re: Compilers and configuration tools
Hi
This may be a bit off topic but what does a harmony developers desktop
look
like? My reason for asking is that I've been groomed on developing using
an
ide in the windows environemnt, Visual Studio 6.0 and the like.
What sort of tools would one
Kumpera and
Robin Garner would be happy if I did so... ;-)
Dan Lydick
[Original Message]
From: Tanuj Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 10/25/05 9:29:49 AM
Subject: Re: MSVC support, was: Compilers and configuration tools
The Boost project [http://www.boost.org
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To: Apache Harmony Bootstrap JVM [EMAIL PROTECTED];
harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
Date: 10/24/05 4:44:32 AM
Subject: Re: Compilers and configuration tools
Hi,
I'd like to help out with supporting the MSVC compiler on Windows.
I'm tied up with work this week, but can take a look
Mathur [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Apache Harmony Bootstrap JVM [EMAIL PROTECTED];
harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
Date: 10/24/05 4:44:32 AM
Subject: Re: Compilers and configuration tools
Hi,
I'd like to help out with supporting the MSVC compiler on Windows.
I'm tied up with work
On Oct 21, 2005, at 3:23 PM, Apache Harmony Bootstrap JVM wrote:
I'm with Geir on his comments, but evaluating MSVC
I think is a good idea because there are so many
folks who use it-- or is it? Rodrigo' comments about
confusion with multiple compiler support make a
compelling argument about
So we need to at least support gcc. It ain't the best but its
ubiquitous. If someone so motivated wants to maintain MSVC
compatibility they should be encouraged. No policy is necessary as the
first is implied in the project mission. It is obvious however that
strictly supporting
On Oct 24, 2005, at 5:44 AM, Tanuj Mathur wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to help out with supporting the MSVC compiler on Windows.
I'm tied up with work this week, but can take a look at the task from
next Monday.
Excellent.
Geir, regarding your concerns about MSVC's commercial nature being a
I'm with Geir on his comments, but evaluating MSVC
I think is a good idea because there are so many
folks who use it-- or is it? Rodrigo' comments about
confusion with multiple compiler support make a
compelling argument about going with _one_
compiler-- and look at the minor diffs we have
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