Hi Dave,
Thanks for the suggestion. I will find out if I am allowed to look at
the sourceforge documentation. I looked on google for any open
literature describing the integration of MMTK and a C/C++ based VM.
As far as I can tell, the port to Rotor falls into this category. But
I can't look
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
I'll buy that, except I'll note that the IKVM license isn't
recognized as an OSS license by OSI
Yes it is, it's the zlib license:
http://www.opensource.org/licenses/zlib-license.php
Regards,
Jeroen
Thanks - I figured it was one of them, just not called the IKVM
license
geir
On Jul 21, 2005, at 8:34 AM, Jeroen Frijters wrote:
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
I'll buy that, except I'll note that the IKVM license isn't
recognized as an OSS license by OSI
Yes it is, it's the zlib license:
Hi,
On Wed, 2005-07-06 at 13:30 -0700, Baker, Tony wrote:
Uh...
Weldon Washburn, individual contributor, just tipped his hand. As an
individual contributor, why would you need permission?
I thought it was general knowledge what the background of most of the
harmony founders was. If you
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From: Weldon Washburn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 7:18 AM
To: Robin Garner
Cc: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Minutes of First Harmony Meeting
On 7/4/05, Robin Garner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know where you get the idea that downloading
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
Yeah. Ideally bits and pieces, as they are contributed to Harmony would
be licensed under the Apache license or even more liberal licenses,
Allright. I'll bite. What's more liberal? I consider that the AL is
the most liberal of the commonly found languages as
On Jul 7, 2005, at 10:46 AM, Peter Donald wrote:
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
Yeah. Ideally bits and pieces, as they are contributed to
Harmony would
be licensed under the Apache license or even more liberal licenses,
Allright. I'll bite. What's more liberal? I consider that the
AL is
On Jul 7, 2005, at 1:57 PM, Dalibor Topic wrote:
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
Yeah. Ideally bits and pieces, as they are contributed to
Harmony would
be licensed under the Apache license or even more liberal licenses,
Allright. I'll bite. What's more liberal? I consider that the
AL
(you are so eloquent in your descriptions :-) )
D
On Jul 7, 2005, at 10:57 AM, Dalibor Topic wrote:
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
Yeah. Ideally bits and pieces, as they are contributed to
Harmony would
be licensed under the Apache license or even more liberal licenses,
Allright. I'll
Hi,
On Mon, 2005-07-04 at 22:17 -0700, Weldon Washburn wrote:
Also, the following mail archive says that Apache has issues with CPL code:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200503.mbox/[EMAIL
PROTECTED]
Does MMTK exist under any other license?
That seems to be
Mark Wielaard wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, 2005-07-04 at 22:17 -0700, Weldon Washburn wrote:
Also, the following mail archive says that Apache has issues with CPL code:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200503.mbox/[EMAIL
PROTECTED]
Does MMTK exist under any other license?
+1 to Robin. proceed as though the license issues will eventually be
worked out
-- dims
On 7/5/05, Robin Garner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know where you get the idea that downloading JikesRVM or any
component thereof 'contaminates' you. The e-mail you refer to talks
about
On 7/4/05, Robin Garner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't know where you get the idea that downloading JikesRVM or any
component thereof 'contaminates' you.
I may be wrong on the contamination issue. The real issue is that I
do not have permission to download anything but Apache licensed
Does MMTK exist under any other license? I'd like to look at the
MMTK/VM interface(s) but don't know how to do this without becoming
contaminated. Does anyone have any ideas?
So you mentioned the interface between MMTK and the VM. If you are
looking for it, it can be found in 2 places.
take a look at the javadoc (http://jikesrvm.sourceforge.net/api/). That
should be mostly harmless from a contamination perspective.
--dave
This is insane, if implementing the classlibrary takes half the time
the GNU folks are on the road, by the time Harmony completes 1.5,
2010+, it will be history.
Leveraging ASL compatible software is the only feasible way to have it progress.
On 7/5/05, Weldon Washburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sounds a bit like a time-bomb to me...
RB
-Original Message-
From: Davanum Srinivas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 10:05 PM
To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc: Weldon Washburn
Subject: Re: Minutes of First Harmony Meeting
+1 to Robin. proceed as though
On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 16:27 -0400, David P Grove wrote:
take a look at the javadoc (http://jikesrvm.sourceforge.net/api/). That
should be mostly harmless from a contamination perspective.
--dave
So if you do this, the packages you want to look at are:
org.mmtk.vm - This is what MMTk
Unfortunately, I am not allowed to download JikesRVM at this time.
Since I can't download Jikes, I did the next best thing -- a Google
search. As far as I can tell, MMTK is part of JikesRVM and does not
exist as a stand-alone entity. Is this correct?
Also, the following mail archive says that
[Flavio] Volunteered to do GC design and implementation.
I feel strongly that whatever the implementation language, Harmony
should use MMTk as the memory manager. Does anyone have a reason not
to, or has it just not been considered ?
cheers,
Robin
On 6/30/05, Robin Garner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[Flavio] Volunteered to do GC design and implementation.
I feel strongly that whatever the implementation language, Harmony
should use MMTk as the memory manager. Does anyone have a reason not
to, or has it just not been considered ?
I
I can't find the license to MMTK. Can you post a pointer?
If you download JikesRVM you can see in the MMTK directory that it is
licenced under CPL or the Common Public Licence.
This is quoted from the licence file supplied with MMTK:
MMTk is free, open source software, distributed and freely
On Jun 30, 2005, at 9:31 AM, Tom wrote:
Date:06/28/05
Location:Thirsty Bear, San Francisco, CA
Present:
Geir Magnusson
Flavio Bergamaschi
Ian Darwin
Weldon Waschburn
Tom Enderes
This was an informal social meetup over that great OSS
Hi,
On 6/30/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[Geir] Start off with codebase from Dan Lydicks VM ?
This is really about an offline conversation that I had with Dan. I
owe him an email (got bogged here at JavaOne), but I was going to
encourage him to approach the community
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