Re: Software that keeps stealing focus.

2008-01-22 Thread Phil Pennock
On 2008-01-21 at 15:31 +, David Cantrell wrote: On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 06:56:11PM +0100, Ann Barcomb wrote: It's so easy to hate OpenOffice, because they made it work and look like Microsoft Office, only slower. They did such a bad job of working and looking like MS Office that I

Re: Software that keeps stealing focus.

2008-01-22 Thread Nicholas Clark
On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 02:57:15AM +0100, Juerd Waalboer wrote: Ugly Software, If I actively ignored your splash screen by clicking another window, then why the hell must you insist on grabbing the focus when your main application windows is finally there? Pertinent hate indeed. It's not as

Re: Software that keeps stealing focus.

2008-01-22 Thread Juerd Waalboer
Nicholas Clark skribis 2008-01-22 10:28 (+): Pertinent hate indeed. It's not as bad, but Ubuntu's Sound Juicer is also hateful. It has no option to disable the helpful popup for I've finished extracting the CD Ubuntu is exceptionally skilled at writing software that demand ones focus.

Re: Software that keeps stealing focus.

2008-01-22 Thread Hakim Cassimally
On 22/01/2008, Juerd Waalboer ju...@convolution.nl wrote: Ubuntu is exceptionally skilled at writing software that demand ones focus. Another exhibit: the upgrade thingy. After downlodaing the updated packages, its window will pop itself up to the front, and automatically start installing the

Re: Software that keeps stealing focus.

2008-01-22 Thread Juerd Waalboer
Ilmari Vacklin skribis 2008-01-22 13:37 (+0200): This is reportedly a bug in Metacity, not in update-manager: I'm not using Metacity, though. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Kind regards, Korajn salutojn, Juerd Waalboer: Perl hacker ##...@juerd.nl http://juerd.nl/sig Convolution: ICT

Re: Software that keeps stealing focus.

2008-01-22 Thread Peter da Silva
On 2008-01-22, at 04:57, Juerd Waalboer wrote: The only kind of warning that should ever do this is, is in the disaster-imminent-if-you-don't-act-now category: empty battery, house on fire, nuclear waste in lost+found. But Ubuntu does it even when it has NO WARNING whatsoever. It's just

Re: Software that keeps stealing focus.

2008-01-22 Thread Michael Poole
Nicholas Clark writes: On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 02:57:15AM +0100, Juerd Waalboer wrote: Ugly Software, If I actively ignored your splash screen by clicking another window, then why the hell must you insist on grabbing the focus when your main application windows is finally there?

Re: Software that keeps stealing focus.

2008-01-22 Thread Michael G Schwern
Nicholas Clark wrote: Pertinent hate indeed. It's not as bad, but Ubuntu's Sound Juicer is also hateful. It has no option to disable the helpful popup for I've finished extracting the CD It's not like I haven't noticed - it *has* an option to eject the CD. That's sort of like remote controls

Re: Software that keeps stealing focus.

2008-01-22 Thread Phil Pennock
On 2008-01-22 at 11:48 -0800, Michael G Schwern wrote: Nicholas Clark wrote: It's not like I haven't noticed - it *has* an option to eject the CD. That's sort of like remote controls with eject buttons. What, both useful? Nicholas appeared to say that notification on desktop was redundant

Re: flexcar.com

2008-01-22 Thread Bill Page
Anyone else pissed that Google did that with Google Video when they bought Youtube? I thought I was the only one!

Re: flexcar.com

2008-01-22 Thread jrodman
On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 02:16:55PM +1030, Bill Page wrote: Anyone else pissed that Google did that with Google Video when they bought Youtube? I thought I was the only one! I too am pissed about that. I'm also pissed that *anyone* gave those youtube yahoos any money at all. There are

Re: flexcar.com

2008-01-22 Thread Peter da Silva
On 2008-01-21, at 23:59, jrod...@hate.spamportal.net wrote: I suppose this is now business hate. Business hate? HP! Just about every place I can think of where HP and Compaq had competing products, they dumped the good one and kept the bad one. And it wasn't just that they kept HP's

Mailing list as bug tracker

2008-01-22 Thread Michael G Schwern
It's hateful enough to use a mailing list as your bug tracker, it's not like any good bug tracker doesn't have a mail gateway, but it's extra hateful when they don't accept posts from non-members so I need to sign up to a bunch of mail I don't care one bit about JUST TO REPORT A BUG! I'm

Re: Mailing list as bug tracker

2008-01-22 Thread Andy Armstrong
On 21 Jan 2008, at 22:57, Michael G Schwern wrote: I'm looking at you, TextMate. Specifically their bundles. Just cos I said hello to you and you thought Christ, that fucker Armstrong gets everywhere :) -- Andy Armstrong, Hexten

Re: Mailing list as bug tracker

2008-01-22 Thread Tony Bowden
Michael G Schwern wrote: It's hateful enough to use a mailing list as your bug tracker, it's not like any good bug tracker doesn't have a mail gateway, but it's extra hateful when they don't accept posts from non-members so I need to sign up to a bunch of mail I don't care one bit about JUST

Re: Mailing list as bug tracker

2008-01-22 Thread Philip Newton
On Jan 22, 2008 1:11 AM, Tony Bowden t...@tmtm.com wrote: But a few weeks back I noticed that one of their test cases seemed to have a spurious minus sign in it. After confirming that I was correct in every spreadsheet app I had access to, I decided to be nice and report this to them. But:

Re: Mailing list as bug tracker

2008-01-22 Thread Tony Bowden
Philip Newton wrote: Ah. This is clearly some novel meaning of open standards process. I think it's a sign that the SCO-style legal-FUD approach is working. They appear to be so scared of anyone ever challenging the provenance of any part of their work that even *talk to them* you need to

Re: Mailing list as bug tracker

2008-01-22 Thread Michael G Schwern
Tony Bowden wrote: Having wasted a significant chunk of last year on so-called open source license wrangling for my erstwhile employer, I can spew software license hate all day with only a half-turn of the winding key... /me turns the key a good three or four times and stands back. -- The

Hating all web browsers

2008-01-22 Thread Timothy Knox
Okay, this is almost too easy. ;-) But here goes: Dear Web Browser (aka Firefox, IE, Safari, and probably all the rest): When the web page you are rendering for me has some ridiculously oversized diagram in it (like, say, a product architecture diagram), I know I will have to scroll to see the

Thunderbird, how hard can it be?

2008-01-22 Thread Struan Donald
Short version: Thunderbird + IMAP + Exchange = hate. But you knew that already. Specifically in this case it's deleting messages. I'm in the happy situation of occasionally getting a big chunk of alerts where some process or other at $work throws its toys out the pram. This is fine, other than