Re: Stupid Language Designer Tricks

2012-05-18 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
> And since you asked, off the top of my head... > [ a long list snipped] Now, tell us how you *really* feel about C? In case you didn't guess it yet, I was playing advocatus diaboli in reverse here. (In modernese: trolling.) In other words, your list and argument was good, though many items we

Re: Stupid Language Designer Tricks

2012-05-15 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Otherwise I haven't come across this problem in other major languages... except maybe C.  And original C has so many design flaws that the list would become useless. You will have to back that up somehow, laddie. And get offa my lawn. (I can somewhat understand if your basic premise is simply

Re: Subversion Lifetime Achievement Award (was Re: GNU diff)

2011-02-06 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: > * Jarkko Hietaniemi [2011-02-06 11:15]: >> You know, it's gobbledygook like the below that makes me stay >> away from learning git. > > And using what instead? For the past years, mostly perforce. I must be

Re: Subversion Lifetime Achievement Award (was Re: GNU diff)

2011-02-06 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 7:54 PM, David Parsons wrote: On Feb 6, 2011, at 2:13 AM, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: You know, it's gobbledygook like the below that makes me stay away from learning git.   Well, you can just ignore it.   There is a pretty good SCCS in   there[*] if you peel

Re: Subversion Lifetime Achievement Award (was Re: GNU diff)

2011-02-06 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
You know, it's gobbledygook like the below that makes me stay away from learning git. On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: * Michael G Schwern [2011-02-06 06:45]: Here is your git undo button. [alias]     undo = reset --hard HEAD^ Except for the `--hard`, which will

Re: Hating our product's CLI shell

2010-09-23 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Wednesday-201009-22 15:26, Timothy Knox wrote: So in my day job, I work for a hardware/software company that makes nifty-neato networking gear. We have our own command shell, sort of bash-like, but tuned to our needs. I was forced to use it recently, and when I was done, this happened: # exit

Re: GNU

2010-04-29 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
> > [1] http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=43941 "It's your own source, so I don't think I have to include it." WORKING AS INTENDED. WILL NOT FIX. HTH. -- There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'. It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen

Re: GNU

2010-04-29 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
2. GNU gcc   up to and including 3.4.6 you only needed GNU gcc source code to   build gcc. With a little bit of persistence, it would even be   possible to build gcc starting with another ANSI C-compiler, e.g.   HP-UX C-ANSI-C.   Now with gcc-4, it depends on GMP and MPFR   That already sucks b

Re: XML

2010-04-29 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
What about the fact that everything in CSV is a "STRING"? That there is no difference between an empty field and an undefined field and that Microsoft (sorry, they keep fucking things up) Excel converts everything that looks like a date to a US date, even if correctly formatted as ISO, so 201004

Re: iTunes. Again.

2010-04-27 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:28 PM, wrote: > On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 08:18:00PM +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: >> (And no, I don't want you sorting by track name. That doesn't work for >> classical music) > > Perhaps you see your mistake was in trying to listen to classical music. > Steve only listens

Re: Firefox

2010-01-07 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
ed reached the optimum not only in user interface but in error message already years ago. In the below you have to be careful not to confuse the user input and the (error) response: $ ed ? ? q $ -- There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'. It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen

Re: leading zeroes..

2009-10-20 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Yes, that would be bad. In multilingual/multicultural environments in general it is impossible to sort stuff since the rules differ where things with diacritics are supposed to go, and languages without letters X Y Z don't generally have rules where X Y Z should go. On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:23

Re: leading zeroes..

2009-10-18 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Peter Corlett wrote: > On 17 Oct 2009, at 23:57, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: > [...] >> And it begins with lowercase, so it has more than one chance of >> breaking >> hateful software. Well played. > > To do the job properly, it really needs a character that&#x

Re: leading zeroes..

2009-10-18 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Peter da Silva wrote: > On 2009-10-16, at 09:06, H.Merijn Brand wrote: >> But where is the (software) hate in this post? > > My last name has a space in it? And it begins with lowercase, so it has more than one chance of breaking hateful software. Well played. >

Re: leading zeroes..

2009-10-11 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
James Laver wrote: > On 11 Oct 2009, at 18:15, Ann Barcomb wrote: > >> I think the conclusion is that there are many different forms of >> addressing, >> and most software doesn't get it right. Heck, many US webforms can't >> even handle anything other than a US zipcode for the postcode section

Re: leading zeroes..

2009-10-11 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Darrell Fuhriman wrote: >> "=""01234""" > > Tough to do if you're coming from a CSV > > d. That is what you puts in your CSV if you wants Excel to understand what you meant. >

Re: leading zeroes..

2009-10-10 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
> > And don't even get me started on software stripping leading zeroes > from addresses (house numbers or zipcodes can have leading zeroes, you > morons.) Never, ever, load address data into excel. "=""01234""" > d. > > > > >

Re: ncurses

2009-08-21 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Peter Kruse wrote: --8<-- ./configure You had me here. --help | grep .-includedir  --includedir=DIR        C header files [PREFIX/include] --8<--

Re: kill all Linux weenies

2009-08-15 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Matthew King wrote: > Jarkko Hietaniemi writes: > >>> It works fine on Linux, ship it! >> If only people would actually test even that far that their software >> configures/builds/tests/installs in *Linux* >> (as in: at least *try* more than one release of

Re: kill all Linux weenies

2009-08-14 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Roger Burton West wrote: On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:14:18AM -0400, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: If only people would actually test even that far that their software configures/builds/tests/installs in *Linux* (as in: at least *try* more than one release of a

Re: kill all Linux weenies

2009-08-14 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
 It works fine on Linux, ship it! If only people would actually test even that far that their software configures/builds/tests/installs in *Linux* (as in: at least *try* more than one release of a distro, more than one distro, more than x86 [1]). But I think I will get my polka-dot unicorn pony

Re: MySQL

2009-06-29 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
I consider chromatic to be Larry Wall's Thomas Huxley. On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Benjamin Reed wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/29/09 11:58 AM, Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker wrote: Don't let chromatic hear you say that, they've had 17 "stable" releases already! Nev

Re: MySQL

2009-06-29 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
That's unfair, at least MySQL has had several product releases already. On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Abigail wrote: > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 02:46:36PM +0200, H.Merijn Brand wrote: >> >> WTF, where on earth did you read that a space is not allowed before an >> opening paren on an aggregate f

Re: Truth (BBC Radio)

2009-06-27 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Joshua Juran wrote: > On Jun 26, 2009, at 7:56 PM, Benjamin Reed wrote: > >> On 6/26/09 5:35 PM, Nicholas Clark wrote: >> >>> autoconf, automake and libtool. What more could one need? >>> >>> Actually, what other non-overlapping software could one >>> legitimately use to >>> increase the hate? >

Re: BBC Radio

2009-06-26 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Nicholas Clark wrote: > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 05:31:43PM -0400, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: >> Nicholas Clark wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 01:48:32PM -0700, Joshua Juran wrote: >>>> On Jun 26, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker wrote: >>>> &g

Re: BBC Radio

2009-06-26 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Nicholas Clark wrote: > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 01:48:32PM -0700, Joshua Juran wrote: >> On Jun 26, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker wrote: >> >>> Nicholas Clark writes: >>> I offer you this software that I've only just written. I don't think that it's that hateful: > >

Re: BBC Radio

2009-06-26 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
>>> There is another kind? >> >> Software that hasn't been written yet? >> > > Hello World isn't too hateful. So long as it isn't GNU hello. I see your hate and raise: info hello > - Micheal > > -- There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'. It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen

Re: Mutt format=flowed Decoding

2009-05-13 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Smylers wrote: > format=flowed involves putting a single space at the end of line text You had me at format=fucked. http://nick.hates-software.com/2004/06/30/33b6b8a1.html -- There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'. It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen

Re: screen Re-Attach Options

2009-04-30 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker wrote: > Benjamin Reed writes: > >> david.mackint...@xdroop.com wrote: >> >>> $ screen -ADR >> Don't forget -U for unicode support. Otherwise, umm, who knows what it >> does. :P > > -U is only necessary if your locale settings are wrong, it respects LC_CTYPE. Locales

just a reminder that it could be worse

2009-04-11 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/slc/1052576173.html

Re: Excel.

2009-03-24 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
I had to recently fight Excel not to convert e.g. postal code numbers and phone numbers to "normal" numbers. Here's the stomach-wrenching way to quote a cell in CSV so that Excel "gets it": "=""01234""" I won't bother explaining the whys because I will start sobbing. -- There is this special b

Re: annoying mailing lists

2009-03-05 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: > * Roger Burton West [2009-03-05 10:15]: >> I don't believe I have ever seen a non-spam message with that >> MUA header in it. > > I used to use it back when I was on Win95. It was the best Win32 > GUI MUA around, by a margin. (The next best choice was Outlook > Expres

Re: I think I made it.

2009-02-19 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Michael G Schwern wrote: > delaney parker wrote: >> Hopefully I am not sending this email to the right place. >> >> I know I'm an idiot, but I don't think there is any mention of how or where >> to post a message on the site. With any luck, this message will go nowhere >> and I can save my self

Re: Gnome Screensaver

2009-02-18 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Smylers wrote: > Some Windows users at work were recently surprised to return to their > locked workstations and see their personal photos displaying on-screen. > A new IT policy had set everybody's screensaver to one which picks > images from their photos directo

Re: not quite a hate: is there an archive?

2009-01-05 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
> Quite. The mbox format even got its own RFC[1], basically > documenting that it's widely unstandardized (read: broken) and, in an > appendix, specifying a 'default' mbox format which, even if > universally implemented to the exclusion of all other mbox formats, > would still be broken.

Re: Linux hates (was Re: alias rm "rm -i")

2008-12-31 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
> > The BSD people, whose package management system is pathetically > inadequate, seem to feel that we must use all use an unnecessary, and > yet inadequate hack of file locations in order to provide a semblance of > order. > > I, for one, will be glad when all of that generation are dead. No yo

Re: alias rm "rm -i"

2008-12-31 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Gerry Lawrence wrote: > It gets worse. > > In newer versions, rm does this behavior by default, without being > aliased to rm -i. Please do tell me you are joking? > In this case, you'll need to unset rmstar to get rm to not annoy you. > > You see, they discovered that advanced users were alias

Re: Reply-To munging (was: Auto Cue)

2008-10-30 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:34 PM, David Cantrell wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 08:20:09AM -0700, Joshua Juran wrote: > >> Blah blah blah blah blah > > Arguments About Reply-To Munging Considered BORING AS FUCK. You, sir, are probably in the wrong line of business. > -- > header FROM_DAVID_C

Re: perl and line endings...

2008-10-13 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Juerd Waalboer wrote: > Michael G Schwern skribis 2008-10-11 9:58 (-0400): >>> So you really believe there's still at least one EBCDIC perl user out there? >> Frighteningly enough, yes. Some guys at IBM in China. >> http://www.xray.mpe.mpg.de/mailing-lists/perl5-porters/2007-11/msg00265.html >> h

Re: perl and line endings...

2008-10-11 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
> > Constructions like [A-Za-z] are non-portable to EBCDIC, since the > alphabetic code points are non-contiguous. As someone already pointed out, not true when talking about Perl: both the regex character ranges and the tr operator were surgically altered to run for the hills^Wpresidency of Un

Re: Mutt, was Re: "iTunes is unable to browse album covers on this computer"

2008-08-22 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
> > Why do people like Mutt again? > > I keep forgetting. Because it sucks less. > > -- > Chris Devers > DO NOT LEAVE IT IS NOT REAL > > -- There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'. It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen

Re: Rockbox

2008-07-01 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Aaron J. Grier wrote: > On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 05:16:19PM -0700, Joshua Juran wrote: >> This wouldn't need to be a problem if the image decoder ran in a >> separate process with limited privileges. > > a (possibly buggy) heirarchy of priviliged process spaces and message > passing doesn't fix suc

Re: Rockbox

2008-07-01 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Peter da Silva wrote: >> I don't mind for certain file types, especially document types, since >> I'm almost always going to want to open them as soon as they're >> downloaded - quite often I don't want to keep them, I just want to >> look at them. > > That must never be the default, though, becau

Re: Why Python's is not my favorite REPL

2008-06-09 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Peter da Silva wrote: >> elm and mailx both do it that way IIRC, though elm does not accept exit >> or quit, but just plain x and q > > And elm prompts you if you're risking data loss. Hmmm, could have been mailx, I used to use that heavily, maybe I'm conflating t

Re: Why Python's is not my favorite REPL

2008-06-09 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
It wasn't EDLIN, I haven't lost that many neurons that I would confess to spending too much time with that. On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:37 PM, Peter da Silva wrote: >> Then there was this another piece of hatefulness^Wsoftware where >> exit >> meant "save without saving changes" and >> quit >> mean

Re: Why Python's is not my favorite REPL

2008-06-09 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Then there was this another piece of hatefulness^Wsoftware where exit meant "save without saving changes" and quit meant "save and save the changes". Or maybe it was the other way round. Without prompting, warning, or verifying. I have to confess I have forgotten exactly which piece of softw

Re: [offlist] Re: so THAT is my problem! [Quicktime hate]

2008-05-08 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: > Hi Jarkko, > > * Jarkko Hietaniemi [2008-05-07 01:55]: >> http://www.iki.fi/jhi/NetwrokProblem.png >> >> That's all. Over. > > looks like a good candidate for the _Error'd_ feature at > DailyWTF; submit it? http://thedailywtf.com/Contact.aspx > > Regards, So done.

so THAT is my problem! [Quicktime hate]

2008-05-07 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
http://www.iki.fi/jhi/NetwrokProblem.png That's all. Over.

Re: Firefox 401 festival

2008-04-30 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
> > Also, the wording makes it sound like their database is constipated. Aren't most databases? >

Re: krashing krap

2008-04-28 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
> > So are "install" and "INSTALL" the same file? What about "ınstall" and > "İNSTALL"? Does it matter what locale you're in? How about german "ß" and > "SS"? > > > > I agree. The filesystem should not attempt to change names. Are "cafe" and > "café" the same word? The Englishman says yes, the Fre

Re: krashing krap

2008-04-17 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Aaron J. Grier wrote: > On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 10:05:25AM -0400, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: >> That's nothing. Microsoft pledged support for running NT in Alpha >> and MIPS processors! > > which they did. NT 4.0 supported both. rumor has it that Alpha support I kno

Re: krashing krap

2008-04-03 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Michael Leuchtenburg wrote: > Peter da Silva wrote: >> On 2008-04-01, at 17:16, Nicholas Clark wrote: >>> What's hateful about rsync? >> There isn't (or wasn't) any stream mode, so you can't use the >> equivalent of "rsync ... - | ssh foo rsync -", instead you have magic >> syntax to specify rsh/

Re: krashing krap

2008-04-02 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Peter da Silva wrote: > Back during the whole scp1 versus scp2 fiasco, I got used to using > > tar cfz - directory | ssh u...@host sh -c "cd $wherever; tar xfz -" Tsk tsk. cd $wherever && tar xfpz - Just in case something bad happened to $wherever since last time. (I've had a script very much

Re: krashing krap

2008-04-01 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
If it is his "remove temp files" script that now mistakenly removes my home directory, it didn't serve me right... On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker wrote: > David Cantrell writes: > > > Filename character limits are also perfectly sensible. Unix, for > > example, doesn

Re: krashing krap

2008-03-27 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Abigail wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 04:05:04AM +0100, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: >> DOM Storage is part of HTML5. I don't know where Microsoft stands >> with regard to it, but I know all the other major vendors have >> stated their intent to support it in their browsers. Some of them >> alread

Re: krashing krap

2008-03-25 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 8:40 AM, Steffan Davies wrote: > Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote at 08:06 on 2008-03-25: > > > Indeed. I've seen UNIX servers with 1+ year uptime, but sooner or later > > either a disk crash or a need to patch something urgent brings them down >

Re: krashing krap

2008-03-25 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Michael G Schwern wrote: > Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: >> Yossi Kreinin wrote: >>> Konsole has just crashed on me, losing a shell or six, their history and >>> a vim running in one of them. I think it had something to do with the >>> memory consumption of its c

Re: krashing krap

2008-03-21 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Yossi Kreinin wrote: > Konsole has just crashed on me, losing a shell or six, their history and > a vim running in one of them. I think it had something to do with the > memory consumption of its child process, but I'm not sure. I've been > logged out of Linux because of OOM, but I've never had

Re: configuration hate

2008-03-12 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Phil Pennock wrote: > On 2008-03-11 at 20:52 +, David Cantrell wrote: > > I beg to differ. While I agree that it's complete and comprehensive, it > > is largely impenetrable unless you already have a good idea about how to > > drive exim. The O'Reilly book

Re: autoconf

2008-03-03 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Michael G Schwern wrote: > 10 RUN CONFIGURE > 20 INSTALL MISSING DEPENDENCY > 30 GOTO 10 > > This process gets longer and longer as you go deeper and deeper in. > > Couldn't it run all the way through and let me know all the missing stuff at > the end? Please? > > I'd copyedit your message a

Re: So much hate, spread across so much software, it's incredible

2008-03-01 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
David Cantrell wrote: > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 06:00:40PM +, Nicholas Clark wrote: >> On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 05:54:30PM +, Tony Finch wrote: >>> No, I mean DJB's guaranteed version does not compile without patches. It >>> has incorrect declarations for various libc internals such as errno

Re: Signatures

2008-02-20 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
> Ah, but how can you tell from a bunch of pixels on the screen/a bunch > of bits in a PDF file whether they're the result of scanning in a > handwritten signature that shows from a signer giving his assent, or > whether they're the result of someone having fun with their graphics > tablet and Phot

Re: mysqldump Error Messages

2008-02-12 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
> > > A Google search for "mysql hate" returns 1,820,000 pages. > > Maybe I have a different google (setup), but still interesting > > hate mysql493.000 mysql hate 492.000 > hate postgres 27.600 postgres hate 233.000 > hate postgresql 200.000 postgresql hate

Re: MS Access upsizing wizard

2008-02-09 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Martin Seidl wrote: > F*ck access. That's all I have to say. Fuck access? That's what the spammers are trying to hawk to me all day long. > Robert Rothenberg wrote: >> On 07/02/08 20:37 Chris Devers wrote: >>> On Thu, 7 Feb 2008, Jeremy Stephens wrote: >>> I fucking hate the MS Access upsi

Re: Logitech Harmony Remote Software

2008-02-08 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Phil Pennock wrote: > On 2008-02-06 at 11:52 +, Tony Finch wrote: >> On Tue, 5 Feb 2008, Phil Pennock wrote: >>> interested in knowing if anyone's found any bearable alternatives for >>> programming the unit. >> Wouldn't it be wonderful if there was a way of searching the web? >> http://www.lin

Re: Software that keeps stealing focus.

2008-01-20 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Ann Barcomb wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jan 2008, Robert Rothenberg wrote: > >> Ah yes. OpenOffice is the open source alternate hate to Microsoft Office >> hate. > > It's so easy to hate OpenOffice, because they made it work and look > like Microsoft Office, only slower. I hate the UI, I hate the way i

Re: Perl version.pm

2008-01-16 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
>> they've just never given it any real thought. If all one has is >> the version number > > You NEVER just have the version number. You almost always have the > version number and the date, at least. In your dreams. The date is not universally magically available in e.g. common naming sche

Re: Perl version.pm

2008-01-16 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Phil Pennock wrote: > On 2008-01-15 at 23:26 +0100, Abigail wrote: >> *HATE* > > For this mailing-list, that's a remarkably on-topic post to be #100 in > the thread. > > -Phil Hate heartbeat?

Re: Perl version.pm

2008-01-14 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Peter da Silva wrote: > On 2008-01-13, at 18:25, Robert Rothenberg wrote: >> Somewhere I recall *strong* advice to the affect that if one uses >> either numeric versions (e.g. 1.23) that one should not switch to >> extended multi-dot versions (e.g. 1.2.3) or visa versa in a later >> release.

Re: Perl version.pm

2008-01-13 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
> software years and it's a flag that you should probably look >> into it. It's not much, but it's something. >> >> What does 1.5.4 vs 1.5.2 really tell you? > > Everything, if *I* am the one who *minted* those version numbers, > as per the case that Peter mentioned. I'm sorry but your opinion d

Re: Perl version.pm

2008-01-13 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Tony Finch wrote: > On Sat, 12 Jan 2008, Michael G Schwern wrote: >> Lately I've been toying with ISO date integer versions, for that "what, >> you're >> using the 2005 version?! Your shit is OLD! UPGRADE NOW!" effect. >> http://use.perl.org/~schwern/journal/35127 > > How do you handle parallel

Re: my(sql) setup agony

2008-01-10 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
> but you can't quite reach it, and you fail in mysterious ways, and shouldn't > science have progressed far enough by now to now to have to do it? ... by now to not to have to do it. Sorry but my pain made me mistype. -- There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'. It is 'dead'. -

my(sql) setup agony

2008-01-10 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Why is installing mysql the fun equivalent of picking a zit in your back? It shouldn't be there, you need to do it because it hurts like a damn, but you can't quite reach it, and you fail in mysterious ways, and shouldn't science have progressed far enough by now to now to have to do it? I install

Re: SQL syntax

2008-01-07 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Jan 7, 2008 2:49 PM, Jeremy Stephens wrote: > Why is the UPDATE syntax so different from INSERT? If I'm > constructing a SQL statement to insert or update based on the > existence of a row in some code, I have to have two completely > different cases to handle it. What were the SQL creators t

Re: Debian Bash Command-Not-Found Extension

2008-01-04 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Jan 4, 2008 2:50 PM, Aaron Crane wrote: > Peter da Silva writes: > > Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a way to rename functions in > > bash. > > I beg to differ. > > function rename_function { > local old=$1 new=$2 > eval "$(declare -f $old | sed "1s/^$old/$new/")" > u

Re: Firefox Update

2008-01-03 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Jan 3, 2008 4:30 PM, Michael G Schwern wrote: > H.Merijn Brand wrote: > > On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 15:52:42 -0500 (EST), Chris Devers > > wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 3 Jan 2008, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: > >> > >>> [Skip] [Defer] [Ignore] [Cancel] &g

Re: Firefox Update

2008-01-03 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
[Skip] [Defer] [Ignore] [Cancel] On Jan 3, 2008 3:40 PM, Chris Devers wrote: > > On Thu, 3 Jan 2008, Peter da Silva wrote: > > > On 2008-01-03, at 14:06, Chris Devers wrote: > > > I don't remember an option for "don't update"; you only have a choice as > > > to whether or not to defer the action,

Re: Firefox Update

2008-01-03 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
> > > > Firefox has been updated. > > [OK] [Cancel] > > The meaning of [OK] is obvious, but [Cancel] isn't. > > Does it mean "un-update Firefox"? > > Or does it mean "I'd rather not use it at all than use the new version"? Here's a generous helping of sarcasm for ya! *SLOP

Re: Firefox Update

2008-01-03 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Jan 3, 2008 7:01 AM, Smylers wrote: > demerphq writes: > > > On 03/01/2008, Smylers wrote: > > > > > "Click Finish to continue starting Firefox." > > > > > > I'm not entirely sure how I'd've phrased that, but surely, _surely_, > > > when you want to indicate starting something there must be

Re: Java types/compilers/something

2008-01-02 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On Jan 2, 2008 8:27 AM, Peter da Silva wrote: > On 2008-01-02, at 07:07, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: > > reinterpret_cast(0) > > What in the name of Ritchie does that mean? I don't know, and apparently g++ doesn't know either. > > -- There is this special biologi

Re: Java types/compilers/something

2008-01-02 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Yossi Kreinin wrote: > Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: >> num...@deathwyrm.com wrote: >> >>> Type mismatch: cannot convert from List to List >> x.cc:2: error: invalid cast from type ‘int’ to type ‘int’ > > Um... how did you do this? > reinterpret_cast(0)

Re: Java types/compilers/something

2008-01-01 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
num...@deathwyrm.com wrote: > Type mismatch: cannot convert from List to List > > That's very... kind... of you, Java. I much appreciate your strict > typing keeping me from making the mistake of accidentally using a > List as a List when it obviously wasn't what > I meant. Really. I'll come wo

Re: Adobe Updater

2007-12-19 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
It's converting the bits into beautifully rendered PDF images of bits for downloading them? On Dec 19, 2007 3:05 PM, Darrell Fuhriman wrote: > > Why does it take 100% of the CPU for 10 minutes to download an 85MB > update? That's not even installing it – just downloading it. I'm > pretty sure w

Re: HR/Employment Software HATE

2007-12-10 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Having been involved in interviewing candidates, a free tip: please name your resume as YourName.whatever, not resume.whatever.

Re: Banking web sites

2007-12-09 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
David Cantrell wrote: > On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 08:03:41AM -0600, sabrina downard wrote: > >> Dear Chase: And as for you people, you can just take that ridiculous >> "You're logging on from a new computer! OMG!" authorization code >> transfer nonsense and shove it where the sun don't shine. I a

Re: How NOT to write a shared library

2007-11-20 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Also, wrapping the malloc is not *always* a bad thing to do: there are mallocs out there that do things you wouldn't expect, e.g. if you try to malloc() zero bytes. (Yes, there are legitimate reasons to do that.) Or you need to write your own memory management abstractions on top of malloc, like

Re: libtool

2007-11-14 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
> it was actually easier getting that beggar working on FreeBSD than on > the "wrong" version of Red Hat. > Oh. That brings back memories not unlike crawling on all fours on broken class. In saltwater. With electric eels. What was I doing? Oh, right: trying to install Slashcode. In Su

Re: libtool

2007-11-14 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Benjamin Reed wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Rafael Garcia-Suarez wrote: >> On 13/11/2007, H.Merijn Brand wrote: >>> The header says it all >> Indeed. While we're at it, here's what my rss reader fed me this morning: >> http://udrepper.livejournal.com/19395.html >> S

Re: regex end-of-word

2007-11-03 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Peter da Silva wrote: > On 02-Nov-2007, at 18:48, Juerd Waalboer wrote: >> Peter da Silva skribis 2007-11-02 18:29 (-0500): >>> Perl regexps are a third style. > >> Oh, with Perl 6, a forth too! > > Forth regexps? Sure. http://ffl.dvoudheusden.net/ Next! > >

Re: MySQL date_format()

2007-11-02 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
> > > > I'm hoping that merely typing out this hate will sufficiently ingrain it > > in my memory that I'll remember it and not be caught out by it again ... > > Well even more annoying is that you will be told by some MySQL fanboy > that it is fixed in the very next version than the one you have >

Re: Thunderbird reply to all behavour

2007-10-30 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Robert Rothenberg wrote: > On 30/10/07 00:54 Gerry Lawrence wrote: > >> Take,for example, thunder-turds complete inability to handle attachments in >> a sane fashion > > You want fun. How about saving or deleting the attachments from a message > with 200+ attachments? For serious Thunderturd

Re: Autoconf and so forth

2007-10-18 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
David Cantrell wrote: > On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 03:14:51PM -0400, Sean Conner wrote: > >> -spc (You mean there's something else besides sendmail that uses M4?) > > I could tell you horror stories about a DNS hosting system that used > perl to talk to a database and generate m4, which generated

Re: Autoconf and so forth

2007-10-17 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
I think so far the most exotic request was Primos. After some > research I concluded that the SDKs available for Primos were Fortran > and COBOL (and presumably some macroassembler, but not the one called > C), I had to mournfully reply that sorry, Perl is unlikely to run in > your system. Sorry

Re: Autoconf and so forth

2007-10-17 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
> > > There's precisely four OS APIs that it's worth writing new software for: > > > > * UNIX > > * Windows > > * VMS > > * Whatever IBM is calling the descendants of OS/360 this week. > > What about AS400? > > Also there are some embedded OSs without POSIX compatibility, e.g. OS-9. Disclaimer: t

Re: XML Schemas: Some Ground Rules

2007-09-27 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
On 9/27/07, Tony Finch wrote: > On Thu, 27 Sep 2007, Michael G Schwern wrote: > > > > I would like, at this point, to pimp YAML a little. > > Not at all over-engineered! > Ingy tried to make XML refugees feel at home. -- There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'. It is 'dead'. --

Re: GNU tail

2007-09-17 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Peter da Silva wrote: > So the FSF is being hatefully literal minded You didn't have to continue here... > about their emulation.

Re: SATA drive + Windows == hate

2007-09-12 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Jonathan Stowe wrote: > On Wed, 2007-09-12 at 00:22 +0100, Nicholas Clark wrote: >> I've yet to play with tools powered by internal combustion engines > > They mostly seem to be used in agriculture, horticulture and civil > engineering. I think we need a test of the relative effects of > chainsaws

Re: SATA drive + Windows == hate

2007-09-12 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Nicholas Clark wrote: > On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 07:44:23PM -0400, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: >> Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: > >>> Take a staple gun and "park" the disk? >> For really high RPM disks one of course would need a nail gun. > > Nail guns are fun.

Re: Dear Perforce: fuck you.

2007-09-12 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
about a decade or use. I got sucked in by changelists and never > looked back, but since this is about hating software: > > - Renaming files is an understandable kludge considering their > system, but stop bothering me with it and just let me drag & drop > them to their new location already

Re: SATA drive + Windows == hate

2007-09-11 Thread Jarkko Hietaniemi
Peter da Silva wrote: > On Sep 10, 2007, at 18:03, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote: >> But even if Apple did that, app writers who assumed the case-lackness >> of >> HFS would fuck you over ByHavingTooMuchfunwithTHEIRfileNames. > > Yeh, but I know how to handle that hat

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