mutt hate (was Re: a three course hate meal)

group replies". maybe a fourth course of mutt hating for dessert? how about a topping of S/MIME handling? -- Aaron J. Grier | "Not your ordinary poofy goof." | agr...@poofygoof.com

Re: Mutt format=flowed Decoding

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Smylers wrote: > format=flowed involves putting a single space at the end of line text You had me at format=fucked. http://nick.hates-software.com/2004/06/30/33b6b8a1.html -- There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'. It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen

Mutt format=flowed Decoding

format=flowed involves putting a single space at the end of line text which is not the end of a paragraph. When 'decoding' a message so-labelled it would be plausible for Mutt to remove such trailing spaces. It would also be plausible for it to leave them in. When is hateful is

Re: mutt, SMTP and dots

On 2008-09-09 at 16:32 +0100, David Cantrell wrote: > When I write an email containing a line that consists of just a single > dot, I'd appreciate if mutt would do something Clever before submitting > it to the MTA. Is this relating to the new support in the devel branch for

Re: mutt, SMTP and dots

On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 04:32:28PM +0100, David Cantrell wrote: > When I write an email containing a line that consists of just a single > dot, I'd appreciate if mutt would do something Clever before submitting it > to the MTA. WFM. It's Your Setup(TM). . startkeylogger

Re: mutt, SMTP and dots

On Sep 9, 2008, at 8:32 AM, David Cantrell wrote: When I write an email containing a line that consists of just a single dot, I'd appreciate if mutt would do something Clever before submitting it to the MTA. I shall now demonstrate the problem by removing my sig from this email wit

mutt, SMTP and dots

When I write an email containing a line that consists of just a single dot, I'd appreciate if mutt would do something Clever before submitting it to the MTA. I shall now demonstrate the problem by removing my sig from this email with one keystroke instead of three. For added confusion, it

Re: mutt, SMTP and dots

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 17:32, David Cantrell wrote: > When I write an email containing a line that consists of just a single > dot, I'd appreciate if mutt would do something Clever before submitting > it to the MTA. Why is that? If mutt is speaking SMTP, then I'd expect i

Re: Why hating on editors? Re: Mutt, was Re: "iTunes is unable to browse album covers on this computer"

On 2008-08-26, at 18:35, Aaron J. Grier wrote: gaah! me powerful software shaman! watch me majikally reflow text by piping paragraph through external program! You want me to pull out some hate about the things you had to do BEFORE pipes and filters, and you STILL have to do on operating s

Re: Mutt, was Re: "iTunes is unable to browse album covers on this computer"

On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, David Champion wrote: > I feel dumber just for reading this thread Me too, surprisingly enough :-) > Why the unprovoked trolling, Chris? Sorry, I thought that was the whole point of this list, no? > I get that you hate mutt. Actually, that's untrue, a

Re: Why hating on editors? Re: Mutt, was Re: "iTunes is unable to browse album covers on this computer"

On Sat, Aug 23, 2008 at 11:53:39AM -0500, Peter da Silva wrote: > Personally, I prefer mail software not do [text reflowing], but that's > because my editor (vi) makes reflowing easy with the "!}fmt" command. gaah! me powerful software shaman! watch me majikally reflow text by piping paragraph

Re: Mutt, was Re: "iTunes is unable to browse album covers on this computer"

On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 05:29:36PM -0500, David Champion said: > I get that you hate mutt. I don't care. Or, to put it another way o/~ I like small Mutt's and I cannot lie ... o/~ I'll, I'll just get my coat shall I?

Re: Mutt, was Re: "iTunes is unable to browse album covers on this computer"

> Why, is it difficult to do in Mutt? I feel dumber just for reading this thread, so in that spirit I might as well reply. Why the unprovoked trolling, Chris? Did some mutt user steal your appropriately-sexed friend? Of course it's not difficult if you're using mutt; Matt just did

Re: Why hating on editors? Re: Mutt, was Re: "iTunes is unable to browse album covers on this computer"

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 04:52:30PM -0400, Walt Mankowski wrote: > On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 01:36:45PM -0700, Alan Amaya wrote: > > Think about how hatefully you might write a program to wrap combining > > characters to 80 columns, or how hateful you might find writing that program > > to be. > > In

Re: Mutt, was Re: "iTunes is unable to browse album covers on this computer"

ext. >If it > can't be bothered to build in a reasonable mail composition tool, then > why bother? A mail composition tool is different from a text editor. A MUA *must* provide a reasonable mail composition tool. And the two that I am most familiar with - mut

Re: Why hating on editors? Re: Mutt, was Re: "iTunes is unable to browse album covers on this computer"

On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 01:36:45PM -0700, Alan Amaya wrote: > Think about how hatefully you might write a program to wrap combining > characters to 80 columns, or how hateful you might find writing that program > to be. In fact Donald Knuth has an elegant solution to the much more difficult proble

Re: Why hating on editors? Re: Mutt, was Re: "iTunes is unable to browse album covers on this computer"

asy with the "!}fmt" command. I don't see > > any reason, though, why mail software shouldn't have that option > > available for people who find reflowing an arduous process. > > > > So go ahead and hate Mutt, and I'll keep on hating Pine. > > Why stop there? Let's also hate the software that's generating all > these unwrapped paragraphs to begin with! > > Walt > >

Re: Why hating on editors? Re: Mutt, was Re: "iTunes is unable to browse album covers on this computer"

h the "!}fmt" command. I don't see > any reason, though, why mail software shouldn't have that option > available for people who find reflowing an arduous process. > > So go ahead and hate Mutt, and I'll keep on hating Pine. Why stop there? Let's also hate the software that's generating all these unwrapped paragraphs to begin with! Walt

Why hating on editors? Re: Mutt, was Re: "iTunes is unable to browse album covers on this computer"

ion available for people who find reflowing an arduous process. So go ahead and hate Mutt, and I'll keep on hating Pine.

Re: Mutt, was Re: "iTunes is unable to browse album covers on this computer"

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Devers wrote: | I used to get worked up about such things. | | Then I realized that it really doesn't matter. Then you're on the wrong list. ;) - -- Benjamin Reed a.k.a. Ranger Rick Fink, KDE, and Mac OS X development Blog: http://www.racc

Re: Mutt, was Re: "iTunes is unable to browse album covers on this computer"

jrod...@hate.spamportal.net wrote: > Sorry, this hate fails. Focus on bugs and misdesng not "my feature is > the most important and must be in every piece of software". And in any event the whole thing is predicated on the idea that the tools I'm using are unable to wrap text, which is not the ca

Re: Mutt, was Re: "iTunes is unable to browse album covers on this computer"

using whatever compiler the user wants" or "using whatever particle accelerator the user wants". It's just a text editor, they'll all work. If you don't have one declared as your favorite, you'll still get one that works correctly. And if you didn't want to

Re: Mutt, was Re: "iTunes is unable to browse album covers on this computer"

* Chris Devers [2008-08-23 07:45]: > On the contrary, as long as they're round enough to get me > around, it's not worth thinking about. I don't care if they're > rubber, wood, or steel, as long as they'll carry me down the > road. If you travelled 300 miles on road every day you would have a ve

Re: Mutt, was Re: "iTunes is unable to browse album covers on this computer"

u assemble the toolkit you want" to > > absurd levels. > > Mutt does not, so I know not how this is relevant. Sorry, someone earlier in the thread basically said that Mutt is just a MUA, and therefore doesn't specify the editor. Perhaps I took the suggestion too far. Or p

Re: Mutt, was Re: "iTunes is unable to browse album covers on this computer"

* Chris Devers [2008-08-23 07:05]: > The strange point of view to me -- which I am aware of, but > fail to see the benefits of -- is taking the purist Unix-ey > "everything does one and only one thing, and you assemble the > toolkit you want" to absurd levels. Mutt does

Re: Mutt, was Re: "iTunes is unable to browse album covers on this computer"

are of, but fail to see the benefits of -- is taking the purist Unix-ey "everything does one and only one thing, and you assemble the toolkit you want" to absurd levels. Sure, Mutt lets you embed the editor you want. Big deal, so does Pine. But what is an email client if not a tool f

Re: Mutt, was Re: "iTunes is unable to browse album covers on this computer"

* Chris Devers [2008-08-22 18:45]: > Surely punting with "not my problem" is itself hateful. You seriously want each application to come up with entirely new ways of making text editing hateful? Regards, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis //

Re: Mutt, was Re: "iTunes is unable to browse album covers on this computer"

> > Why do people like Mutt again? > > I keep forgetting. Because it sucks less. > > -- > Chris Devers > DO NOT LEAVE IT IS NOT REAL > > -- There is this special biologist word we use for 'stable'. It is 'dead'. -- Jack Cohen

Re: Mutt, was Re: "iTunes is unable to browse album covers on this computer"

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 12:38:57PM -0400, Chris Devers wrote: > On Fri, 22 Aug 2008, Roger Burton West wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 12:12:23PM -0400, Chris Devers wrote: > > > > >I thought Mutt had all manner of bells & whistles. It can't rejustify?

Re: Mutt, was Re: "iTunes is unable to browse album covers on this computer"

On Fri, 22 Aug 2008, Roger Burton West wrote: > On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 12:12:23PM -0400, Chris Devers wrote: > > >I thought Mutt had all manner of bells & whistles. It can't rejustify? > > Mutt is not an editor; it's an MUA. It'll use whatever editor yo

Re: Mutt, was Re: "iTunes is unable to browse album covers on this computer"

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 12:12:23PM -0400, Chris Devers wrote: >I thought Mutt had all manner of bells & whistles. It can't rejustify? Mutt is not an editor; it's an MUA. It'll use whatever editor you tell it to. Misdirected hate.

Mutt, was Re: "iTunes is unable to browse album covers on this computer"

> of nine spinning hairy goats were you thinking of? > > Presumably related to 3D driver support -- I was running iTunes inside > a VM a while ago and got this. > > (No, I'm not going to bother rewrapping.) Why, is it difficult to do in Mutt? In Pine/Alpine, [ctrl]+[j

Re: mutt list-reply and lists with multiple address

* Richard Clamp [2007-10-17 09:55]: > The canonical list address is > hates-software@siesta.unixbeard.net, that's why all the > machinery in play refers to that. Aha, I guess that means hates-software@siesta.unixbeard.net will always get a mention in headers that mutt consults for

Re: mutt list-reply and lists with multiple address

On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 04:11:03AM +0200, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > I don't know which headers mutt is looking at, but it must be > looking at more than the ones that list-reply is documented to > check, because those contain only the h...@hates-software.com > address in several o

Re: mutt list-reply and lists with multiple address

know which headers mutt is looking at, but it must be looking at more than the ones that list-reply is documented to check, because those contain only the h...@hates-software.com address in several of the mails where mutt put both addresses in the recipient line. The hates-software@siesta.unixbeard.

Re: mutt list-reply and lists with multiple address

Somewhere on Shadow Earth, at Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 02:55:01AM +0200, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > Sorry for the dupes everyone. I can't figure out why mutt feels > the need to put both list addresses in To: when I hit list-reply, > and I don't know how to give it a dose of sanity. H

mutt list-reply and lists with multiple address

Sorry for the dupes everyone. I can't figure out why mutt feels the need to put both list addresses in To: when I hit list-reply, and I don't know how to give it a dose of sanity. Hate. Regards, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis // <http://plasmasturm.org/>

Re: mutt.

On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 01:57:57PM +1300, Rob Scovell wrote: > > (Well not quite -- I waited until 10.2). I hates having to geek about > to do things like burn CDs ... > > nah, gnome doesn't help really. -j (gnomophile, LiGnUx twerp, desperately missing the OSX laptop i gave up when i switche

Re: mutt.

Nonexistent perldoc in CPAN modules ... ? On 25/01/2006, at 6:09 PM, David Champion wrote: hates-documentation?

Re: mutt.

* On 2006.01.24, in <20060124235003.ga25...@conker.esphion.com>, * "Guy Thornley" wrote: > > There I was, combing the mutt manual for an hour to find out how to this, > only I was reading the manual for wrong f'ing version. :o That's ok. I'm only

Re: mutt.

2). I hates having to geek about to do things like burn CDs ... Rob On 25/01/2006, at 12:50 PM, Guy Thornley wrote: Not to rain out your f?te, but: Fcc: ^ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i (You might need to upgrade for this to work. [snip] OMG. How *utterly* embarrassing!. I really am truely qui

Re: mutt.

> Not to rain out your f?te, but: > Fcc: ^ > > > > User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i > > (You might need to upgrade for this to work. [snip] OMG. How *utterly* embarrassing!. I really am truely quite abashed. BTW, it worked without upgrading. There I was, combing the mutt ma

Re: mutt.

On Tue, Jan 24, 2006 at 04:27:06PM +1300, Guy Thornley wrote: but nooo, not in mutt. Impossible. Using shell-fu to emit 'set record' hooks for all the mailboxes is gay, since it doesnt work for IMAP. I do not believe that to be correct. I have never had any problems setting h

Re: mutt.

der, if a new message Not to rain out your fête, but: Fcc: ^ User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i (You might need to upgrade for this to work. I think this feature was available only as a patch prior to 1.5.10, and since you haven't posted to any mutt mailing lists to ask about this devilish proble

mutt.

You'd think that by 2006 that it would be OK to have the Fcc: of messages set to either (a) the folder of the message you reply to, or (b) the current mail folder, if a new message but nooo, not in mutt. Impossible. Using shell-fu to emit 'set record' hooks for al