RE: [hlds] 768 k connection

2004-07-28 Thread Adam
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] LOL. Tells you what this guy knows. Technically if you are on the 'lawn' at the 'CO', no one would get service. Since when grass carries data packets. "Sirius F. Crackhoe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You clearly are NOT a tech at any CO. It does

RE: [hlds] Problems with steam client and HLDS

2004-07-28 Thread Dennis
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of spartibus > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 9:29 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [hlds] Problems with steam client and HLDS > > > Tissue? > > Seem's like you are almost out to make steam crash/not wo

RE: [hlds] 768 k connection

2004-07-28 Thread Sirius F. Crackhoe
You clearly are NOT a tech at any CO. It doesn't matter if you are on the lawn of the CO, DSL is DSL, it's based on ATM or Frame Relay private line availability... It is not a guaranteed product and has no SLA's associated with it. -Original Message- From: Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Se

[hlds] RE: hlds digest, Vol 1 #2950 - 13 msgs

2004-07-28 Thread Robert E. Wade, Jr.
>From: "spartibus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [hlds] Problems with steam client and HLDS >Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:28:37 -0700 >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Tissue? > >Seem's like you are almost out to make steam crash/not work just so you have something >to gripe

Re: [hlds] help with halflife

2004-07-28 Thread Adam
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Good suggestion here. GL HF And WELCOME to the HL family. -DOA www.cybergamezone.com n30n <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael Miller wrote: > hi, i need some help with half life. > > bascially i cant join servers cause it ses that a newer pro

Re: [hlds] help with halflife

2004-07-28 Thread Adam
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] You will need to update your HL. That protocol is old. If you are talking client side, just when you start HL, you can select update. If you are talking Windows Server side, go to a DOS prompt and do the HLDS update. Instructions are in your HL

Re: [hlds] help with halflife

2004-07-28 Thread n30n
Michael Miller wrote: hi, i need some help with half life. bascially i cant join servers cause it ses that a newer protocol is used, i only got halflife 1 day ago, and it ses i have protocol 38, and that i need protocol 46, please help me :) _

[hlds] help with halflife

2004-07-28 Thread Michael Miller
hi, i need some help with half life. bascially i cant join servers cause it ses that a newer protocol is used, i only got halflife 1 day ago, and it ses i have protocol 38, and that i need protocol 46, please help me :) _ Play Love Hun

RE: [hlds] 768 k connection

2004-07-28 Thread Adam
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Correction: NOT true if you live across the street from a LEC CO. I monitor the bandwidth and get 90% of my bandwidth always. I am a Telecom Tech for a living. We just know stuff. Ask any Telco guy. Other than that, I agree with the NOT guarante

RE: [hlds] Problems with steam client and HLDS

2004-07-28 Thread John
Yep -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of m0gely Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 7:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] Problems with steam client and HLDS John wrote: > I have had no problems. So am I liar? Yep, you're saying your serv

Re: [hlds] committed suicide with medikit

2004-07-28 Thread Maarten van der Zwaart
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 16:23:06 -0500, Dustin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anyone know how you even kill yourself with a medikit in the first place? Much less how its crashing the server. It does happen if prematch is enabled, and a medic has the medikit selected. When prematch ends all players are suic

Re: [hlds] Problems with steam client and HLDS

2004-07-28 Thread m0gely
John wrote: I have had no problems. So am I liar? Yep, you're saying your server did not experience the lag issue a little while ago, that you're magically protected against the shield glitches that have always existed (assuming you run CS), that Alfred has never muttered on the list "We have a fix

Re: [hlds] Problems with steam client and HLDS

2004-07-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Anyone who > says they have no problems with steam/valves (beta) releases is a liar > or has no memory. I guess i'm lucky then. Personally, I have not had nearly enough issues with Steam (W32 or linux) that would cause me to call it "an absolute piece of sh*t" and claim that "Valve will die soon

RE: [hlds] Problems with steam client and HLDS

2004-07-28 Thread John
I have had no problems. So am I liar? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of m0gely Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 6:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] Problems with steam client and HLDS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > A) How come so many p

Re: [hlds] Linux server, Advice

2004-07-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can you guys say "Way Off Topic"? There is an hlds_linux list this could have been posted to. Windows admins know this, and will subscribe to that list if they want to discuss it. I'm surprised this thread lasted this long without someone screaming about it. On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 15:08:41 -0700, J

Re: [hlds] Problems with steam client and HLDS

2004-07-28 Thread m0gely
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A) How come so many people have been running Steam servers for almost a year successfully, yet when one person doesn't read the docs and can't get it running, it is a failure. Because you've been living under a rock? The success stories are people who have problems and do

Re: [hlds] committed suicide with medikit

2004-07-28 Thread Dustin
Has someting changed in the last week or so with this? This has never been a problem before and nothin on my server has changed in its setup in months. With more testing I have found that the infection does stay after the infector leaves the server, but this does not kill the timer. They still end

RE: [hlds] 768 k connection

2004-07-28 Thread James Bowling
80-90 is fine? That doesn't seem fine to me. You should not run any more than about 24 slots total, mainly because your line is not a "guaranteed" line. You are not always going to get your 768k up. This will cause crazy lag and maybe even some packet loss if you overload your line. -Origi

RE: [hlds] Linux server, Advice

2004-07-28 Thread James Bowling
I run mainly FreeBSD, Gentoo and Suse. They all seem to give me really good performance. It is really all in how you install them and what you do to optimize your installation. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt White Sent: Wednesday, J

RE: [hlds] committed suicide with medikit

2004-07-28 Thread Rob Harwood
An infection kill used to be registered as "timer" not "medikit", is it not now? Although Voogru might be right in saying that the infector has to leave the server as this may destroy the timer and TFC might fallback to the weapon name which is plausible judging by the hacks added to the SDK to ch

RE: [hlds] committed suicide with medikit

2004-07-28 Thread voogru
Sounds like someone is infecting someone then leaving the server. -Original Message- From: Dustin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 5:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds] committed suicide with medikit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked

[hlds] committed suicide with medikit

2004-07-28 Thread Dustin
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] L 07/28/2004 - 13:58:14: "hor<287>" committed suicide with "medikit" This is something I have started seeing on my Steam TFC server in the last week. People killing themselfs with a medikit?!?! How is

Re: [hlds] 768 k connection

2004-07-28 Thread Adam
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] One of our servers is a 1.5/896 and it works fine. Ping is 80-90 OS: 2k Game: CS 1.6 Mod/addons: WC3, AdminMOD, AMX, HLG. Players: 20 Pub. -DOA Martin Dickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked

RE: [hlds] Problems with steam client and HLDS

2004-07-28 Thread Rob Harwood
I think people just start accepting it again before it gets made worse. -- Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 July 2004 19:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] Problems with steam client and HLDS A) How

[hlds] 768 k connection

2004-07-28 Thread Martin Dickson
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] About how many players could a 1.5m/768k connection support running off a 3.0p4 (ht) winxp pro, hlds dedicate with amxx 0.16? could it support a 20player pub and a 14player private? Thanx -- ___

Re: [hlds] Problems with steam client and HLDS

2004-07-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A) How come so many people have been running Steam servers for almost a year successfully, yet when one person doesn't read the docs and can't get it running, it is a failure. B) part of me wishes I had archived the crying and gripes from every version upgrade from the time I started playing/admi

Re: [hlds] Linux server, Advice (fedora)

2004-07-28 Thread GreyFox
List Keeper wrote: Doesn't Fedora use yum instead of up2date? I use up2date, so I hope not :P /fox ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds

Re: [hlds] Linux server, Advice (fedora)

2004-07-28 Thread List Keeper
Doesn't Fedora use yum instead of up2date? - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 12:04 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] Linux server, Advice This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- We upgraded 2 of our servers from redhat 9 t

RE: [hlds] RE: AMD vs Intel.

2004-07-28 Thread David Fencik
This reminds me of my first dual xeon system. First thing I did was fire up a 32 player dod server running avalanche. I wanted to see how this thing compared to a dual amd system. It was a dual xeon 2.8 system. It showed the dod server only using 7% of cpu (which really equals 14% of one). I g

Re: [hlds] RE: AMD vs Intel.

2004-07-28 Thread List Keeper
I forget, you are using Windows 2000 right? If you are, do you have the latest service packs and updates? - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 11:59 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: AMD vs Intel. This is a multi-part message in

Re: [hlds] Linux server, Advice

2004-07-28 Thread AgentHH
Well, you could try posting on the Linux HLDS list :) There really is no "best" flavor, it's whatever you prefer. I for one will recommend Slackware Linux. Packages are easily available for it, has an updating tool, and is rock-solid. The learning curve is steeper than that of Fedora, but once y

RE: [hlds] Linux server, Advice

2004-07-28 Thread neil.cumming
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- We upgraded 2 of our servers from redhat 9 to fedora core 2 42 days ago, uptime on both systems is 42 days not 1 reboot since installation! Havent had any stability issues whatsoever, and 1 box has survived 2 heavy dos attacks. Running kernel versi

RE: [hlds] Linux server, Advice

2004-07-28 Thread Matt White
I have heard gentoo linux is a good one. Regards, Matt White [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve! Sent: 28 July 2004 09:37 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hlds] Linux server, Advice This is a multi-part message in

RE: [hlds] RE: AMD vs Intel.

2004-07-28 Thread neil.cumming
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- Even the 2.67 P4 is doing better, in terms of clock speed it is only a little faster than one of the chips, but this is a dual, if we look at amd's naming system then 2400+ should as you say be eqivilant to a p4 2.4, but im just not seeing the perf

Re: [hlds] RE: AMD vs Intel.

2004-07-28 Thread List Keeper
Also it should be noted that the 2400+ was only meant to be compete with a 2.4 GHz Intel CPU, not the 2.8 or 3.0 GHz that you are using. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 11:31 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] RE: AMD vs Intel. T

RE: [hlds] RE: AMD vs Intel.

2004-07-28 Thread neil.cumming
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- Well to be fair the P4's are all 800FSB, using PC400 ram. Compared to the mp2400's which only run PC2100 ram, and the fsb is 266. Both CPU's are being used, and on my original test both cpu's were at 100% on the dual. I agree that 2 single chip syste

RE: [hlds] Problems with steam client and HLDS

2004-07-28 Thread David Fencik
I couldn't help but think that this is the exact resistance to change that leads people to praise WON over steam. Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 10:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds]

RE: [hlds] RE: AMD vs Intel.

2004-07-28 Thread David Fencik
We need to get back to the original focus of this thread. Was the chipset on the amd boards specified? It wouldn't be fair if you were comparing a P4 with DDR 333 to an Athlon mp with DDR 233, would it? I'm just saying that there are other parts of the machine to consider besides the processor s

RE: [hlds] Linux server, Advice

2004-07-28 Thread David Fencik
I'd stay away from the less popular linux flavors...getting rpm's will be difficult. When I came onboard with my server company, all of our machines were running redhat. I've since converted all machines to windows server 2003. I'm not sure why you'd want to go backwards. I have a bunch of scri

Re: [hlds] RE: AMD vs Intel.

2004-07-28 Thread Maarten van der Zwaart
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:22:07 -0400, K. Mike Bradley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Each process will only run on separate CPU if you set the apps processor affinity. Yes what I meant was it will only run on one CPU at one moment in time. It will not run on two CPUs at the same time. It may use two diff

RE: [hlds] RE: AMD vs Intel.

2004-07-28 Thread neil.cumming
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- lol. Im agreeing with you, this is how it used to work when we first started using these duals a year ago (still under windows), we allow each hlds to use both cpu's and let the windows scheduler take care of it. However im not arguing that, im ju

RE: [hlds] RE: AMD vs Intel.

2004-07-28 Thread K. Mike Bradley
HLDS WILL see and advantage with multi processor WILL WILL WILL WILL ,, How many times do I have to explain this common misconception? Even if HLDS.exe runs a single thread ... There are OS threads supporting applications function calls In the background which means Being able to r

RE: [hlds] RE: AMD vs Intel.

2004-07-28 Thread K. Mike Bradley
Each process will only run on separate CPU if you set the apps processor affinity. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Maarten van der Zwaart Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 7:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] RE: AMD vs Intel. On

RE: [hlds] Problems with steam client and HLDS

2004-07-28 Thread Dennis
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Maarten van der > Zwaart > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 6:59 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [hlds] Problems with steam client and HLDS > > Windows NT is not supported. Quote from steampowered.c

Re: [hlds] RE: AMD vs Intel.

2004-07-28 Thread Maarten van der Zwaart
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 08:18:11 +0100, Mark Duffy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dumb question but does the software (mods and game) actually support multi processors? Yes, meaning they will run on such a system. But each HLDS instance will only run on one processor. Maarten -- A: Because it fouls the

Re: [hlds] Problems with steam client and HLDS

2004-07-28 Thread Maarten van der Zwaart
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 21:22:22 -0400, Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Also, after installing Steam on my server box (Windows NT), and running HLDSUpdateTool with the -create option, I get the following: "The procedure entry point GetLongPathNameA could not be located in the dynamic link library ker

RE: [hlds] AMD vs Intel.

2004-07-28 Thread neil.cumming
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- At this point I dont really want to invest in any more AMD hardware, especially as most of the boards for the duals operate on the same chipset afaik. With the p4's we have an asus board running with the springdale chipset, and also a gigabyte with

RE: [hlds] RE: AMD vs Intel.

2004-07-28 Thread neil.cumming
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- hlsd isnt coded to be multithreaded so wont see any advantage with having 2 cpus available, but because we are running more than 2 process on each box, the os is able to scedule the invdividual load between the 2 chips. Neil. -Original

RE: [hlds] AMD vs Intel.

2004-07-28 Thread neil.cumming
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- lol -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Philipp G. Sent: Wed 28/07/2004 02:01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: RE: [hlds] AMD vs Intel. too late, I called dibs

RE: [hlds] AMD vs Intel.

2004-07-28 Thread neil.cumming
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- Windows 2000 pro on all of them. Neil. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of GreyFox Sent: Wed 28/07/2004 00:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: Re: [hlds] AMD vs Intel.

RE: [hlds] AMD vs Intel.

2004-07-28 Thread neil.cumming
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- No. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of John Sent: Wed 28/07/2004 01:18 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Subject: RE: [hlds] AMD vs Intel. Do you need a son? ---

[hlds] Linux server, Advice

2004-07-28 Thread Steve!
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Okay, am sick of 'strange' behaviour on windoze server, I can get it running, is fine, then 'something' changes... So.. Which flavour of Linux might be best to install? I need to run HLDS, also a webs

Re: [hlds] Windows 98 Not able to run HLDS?

2004-07-28 Thread Steve!
I'm sure I've seen pings of 2000 on servers during mapchanges, Apologies that I haven't read the whole thread, but maybe he should look at whether the map IS being loaded (if not, at which point is hlds hanging?), can he play locally? Steve! - Original Message - From: "Skirecs" <[EMAIL PRO

[hlds] RE: AMD vs Intel.

2004-07-28 Thread Mark Duffy
Dumb question but does the software (mods and game) actually support multi processors? Just a thought mark duffy ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com