RE: [hlds] Voice causes high ping

2007-02-21 Thread Jason O. Washburn
Then I guess the next obvious question is Why doesn't everyone run their servers that way if it is so great? Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 5:01 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject:

RE: [hlds] Voice causes high ping

2007-02-21 Thread Gigabit Nick
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Emulated environments are slower. The reason; Almost any significant work done inside the emulator has to be translated into the host OS's API and then run by the host OS before it can be completed, thus adding extra steps into the execution

RE: [hlds] Voice causes high ping

2007-02-21 Thread Jason O. Washburn
Amen Brother:-) Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gigabit Nick Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 2:48 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Voice causes high ping -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]

RE: [hlds] Voice causes high ping

2007-02-21 Thread Adam Sando
I've been in Virtualisation Roadmap workshops with Microsoft and VMWare recently, and have touted figures of approx 10-20% Host OS overhead for Virtual Server 2005 R2 running 1+ vm's; and 8-10% Host OS overhead for Vi3. Both companies have stated that 1 physical will always be more powerful

Re: [hlds] Voice causes high ping

2007-02-21 Thread Roman Hatsiev
OMG Sorry for useless message, guys, just could not resist... On 21/02/07, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Negative. If anything, the emulation increases performance due to the fact that it doesn't load all the sub protocols and such. It uses less memory then explorer and runs more smoothly.

Re: [hlds] Voice causes high ping

2007-02-21 Thread Jason
http://www.transgaming.com/index.php?module=ContentExpressfunc=displayceid=2meid=-1 Nough said ;) Jason Adam Sando wrote: I've been in Virtualisation Roadmap workshops with Microsoft and VMWare recently, and have touted figures of approx 10-20% Host OS overhead for Virtual Server 2005 R2

RE: [hlds] Voice causes high ping

2007-02-21 Thread Gigabit Nick
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Nough said about what? Not sure why you're pointing me at the website of a company which makes it's profits from selling emulation software, could you clarify? To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Voice causes high ping

RE: [hlds] Voice causes high ping

2007-02-21 Thread Edward Luna
Nough said? I don't see your point... please explain. -Original Message- From: Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 6:06 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Voice causes high ping

RE: [hlds] Voice causes high ping

2007-02-21 Thread Edward Luna
Oops... sry, I should have read ahead. -Original Message- From: Gigabit Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 6:55 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] Voice causes high ping -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Nough said

Re: [hlds] Voice causes high ping

2007-02-21 Thread LDuke
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Yes it allows you to run games from another OS...at a loss of performance. On 2/21/07, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.transgaming.com/index.php?module=ContentExpressfunc=displayceid=2meid=-1 Nough said ;) Jason Adam Sando

Re: [hlds] Voice causes high ping

2007-02-21 Thread chad
...??? LDuke wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Yes it allows you to run games from another OS...at a loss of performance. On 2/21/07, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.transgaming.com/index.php?module=ContentExpressfunc=displayceid=2meid=-1 Nough said ;)

RE: [hlds] Voice causes high ping

2007-02-21 Thread Jason O. Washburn
I was going to say the same thing. Their add doesn't mention performance just compatibility. It also says playing games not serving them. Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LDuke Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 9:32 AM To:

RE: [hlds] Voice causes high ping

2007-02-21 Thread Lolita ROYER
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Message du 21/02/07 19:08 De : Jason O. Washburn A : hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Copie à : Objet : RE: [hlds] Voice causes high ping I was going to say the same thing. Their add doesn't mention performance just compatibility. It

Re: [hlds] Voice causes high ping

2007-02-21 Thread Chris Bass
Cedega is nice hack for those who want to be 100% foaming at the mouth linux people. Most gamers will just suck it up and play it in native OS. Cedega would probably admit running a game in Windows is preferable to running it via Cedega but it's an option for people that can't or won't run

RE: [hlds] Voice causes high ping

2007-02-21 Thread Adam Sando
Agreed, and as Nick pointed out, the ad is a marketing pitch by the company to lure you in. To try put it in perspective - take the new SNES emulator developed for Xbox 360. The first version ran crap because the coder has to EMULATE what the original OS and hardware is doing. In any type of

Re: [hlds] Voice causes high ping

2007-02-21 Thread Einar S. Idsø
Having rocks in your head would help. Knowing a bit or two about computers would also help, but in a different and hopefully more satisfying manner. For instance: If RAM were the bottleneck for a given app, then running it in an emulated environment where the environment itself doesn't expend all

RE: [hlds] Voice causes high ping

2007-02-21 Thread Gigabit Nick
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Windows may use more RAM than Linux, but Linux + Wine + App uses more than Windows + App (been there, tested it, got the benchmarks, thought about selling the T-Shirt). Given your acceptance of what Wine call themselves do you want to buy my

RE: [hlds] Voice causes high ping

2007-02-21 Thread Edward Luna
Like going to the barber shop and looking into the mirrors on opposite walls. I'm sure my hair is already cut in that thousandth barber shop I see way in the back. -Original Message- From: Adam Sando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 3:49 PM To:

RE: [hlds] Tell srcds which server.cfg to load?

2007-02-21 Thread Ludens
How to change path for SourceTV demos? -Original Message- From: Ludens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2007 9:54 AM To: 'hlds@list.valvesoftware.com' Subject: RE: [hlds] Tell srcds which server.cfg to load? I also have spent some time for this crap ;) Next files