RE: [hlds_linux] [Offtopic] LHL

2002-08-22 Thread Rob Sanders
On Thu, 22 Aug 2002 05:44:01 +, Eric (Deacon) wrote: mozdev.org Heh, I wonder if Mos Def will sue :P Y not? godzilla is... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:

Re: [hlds_linux] RE: [hlds] New Security Modules -Wednesday

2002-08-22 Thread Florian Zschocke
Alfred wrote: I fear (or it that ph33r?) to bring this up, but I have always wondered why server side cheating hasn't been more rampant. It is probably due to the cost/time needed to run a server, people in that position are usually more mature than your average gamer. Judging from some of

Re: [hlds_linux] New Security Modules -Wednesday

2002-08-22 Thread Florian Zschocke
Eric Smith wrote: Also, CD key changers are considered cheats and will be reported to the ban list. Could you please elaborate on what you mean by cd key changers and on how these changes are detected? I'm a bit worried that you start banning people owning multiple CD keys playing from behind

Re: [hlds_linux] New Security Modules -Wednesday

2002-08-22 Thread Anders Vinger
At 15:38 21.08.2002 -0700, you wrote: *** This only affects Counter-Strike and Day of Defeat servers. *** We've updated the public security modules again. If you've been helping us test the beta security modules, you should remove the password from your command line and restart your server.

[hlds_linux] Universal banning

2002-08-22 Thread Christian
Is it only me perceiving the economic aspect of this? I can't say I like it. Is it true that universal banning will be systemized via WON? E.g. a cheater caught will be banned through WON, thus he won't be able to play any secure servers at all. Is this Valves last desperate measure to squeeze

Re: [hlds_linux] Universal banning

2002-08-22 Thread Børge Amundsen
It might be like you say. But at the same time dos valve give us what we whant. Less cheaters I also doubt that cheaters will change cdkey time after time. Inn the end noone will dear to test there new cheat in development - on a secure server. Just by making a new cheat that work on a VAC server

Re: [hlds_linux] Universal banning

2002-08-22 Thread Patrik Breitenmoser
Hi there, Ok 1. Cheater gets caught. 2. Cheater receives universal ban. that's good. 3. Cheater buys himself a new copy of the game, and gets a new WON-ID. i think he will only do it max once. It's his own problem 4. Valve sqeezes more money out of an elderly engine. true. maybe they make

Re: [hlds_linux] Universal banning

2002-08-22 Thread Anders Vinger
At 10:28 22.08.2002 +0200, you wrote: Is it only me perceiving the economic aspect of this? I can't say I like it. Is it true that universal banning will be systemized via WON? E.g. a cheater caught will be banned through WON, thus he won't be able to play any secure servers at all. Is this

Re: [hlds_linux] Universal banning

2002-08-22 Thread Kingsley Foreman
quite honestly if they cheat i could care if they had to buy 20 new cd-keys they cheat they pay what better incentive mabye it will teach them not to cheat and the cash could also go into more game development so i say go for it mabye half-life 2 :) Kingsley - Original Message - From:

Re: [hlds_linux] New Security Modules -Wednesday

2002-08-22 Thread Mike Hodgkinson
Also I have a couple of friends, who are brothers, that use the same PC and swap thier cd key before they play as one has admin, other doesnt, and they prefer different stats. How is this going to affect them? - Original Message - From: Florian Zschocke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

Re: [hlds_linux] Universal banning

2002-08-22 Thread william
I believe valve is within their right to initiate a global banning system because in their readme/agreement for HL the users agree NOT to modify or HOOK into Half-Life this agreement is being violated by the cheaters, so VALVe is completely in the right -- Also; a global banning system would be

[hlds_linux] (no subject)

2002-08-22 Thread Björn Wallin
Good work Catching OGC , also god idea with a globalban list! :) Bad implementation! 1. It should be up to the local server admin if he wants to use the globallist(free for download) 2. The local server admin MUST have a chance to have his own excludelist. 3. Would it be better that they fix

Re: [hlds_linux] RE: [hlds] New Security Modules -Wednesday

2002-08-22 Thread Darkcyde
On Thu, 22 Aug 2002, Khyron wrote: Exactly my point: we just don't know. Until we do, it's waste of breath even bitching back and forth about it... My question is this: How can we tell if a server has the latest VAC? We scrimmed another clan tonight on their server and got stomped. A lot

[hlds_linux] Bitching, Whining and Crying.

2002-08-22 Thread DaiTengu
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Ok, this is driving me insane. Valve is busting their collective asses on the anti-cheat modules, and all most of you are doing is whining that' it's not good enough. Does it work 100%? No, but is

Re: [hlds_linux] Universal banning

2002-08-22 Thread Nick McLaren
Well, technically, folks who change their WON ID to avoid being banned will be caught and banned again, so buying new CDs is irrelevant. The only option banned players will have is to play on VAC in-secure servers until they are unbanned, if and whenever that would be.

Re: [hlds_linux] Bitching, Whining and Crying.

2002-08-22 Thread Rob Poe
AMEN BROTHER!!! DaiTengu wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Ok, this is driving me insane. Valve is busting their collective asses on the anti-cheat modules, and all most of you are doing is whining that' it's not

Re: [hlds_linux] Bitching, Whining and Crying.

2002-08-22 Thread Patrik Breitenmoser
WORD!! AMEN BROTHER!!! DaiTengu wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Ok, this is driving me insane. Valve is busting their collective asses on the anti-cheat modules, and all most of you are doing is whining that'

Re: [hlds_linux] Bitching, Whining and Crying.

2002-08-22 Thread Kingsley Foreman
ill second that - Original Message - From: DaiTengu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 10:35 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] Bitching, Whining and Crying. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]

Re: [hlds_linux] Bitching, Whining and Crying.

2002-08-22 Thread Andreas Paulsen
Couldn't agree more!! -Original Message- From: DaiTengu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 08:05:24 -0500 Subject: [hlds_linux] Bitching, Whining and Crying. This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]

RE: [hlds_linux] Bitching, Whining and Crying.

2002-08-22 Thread Joshua Gardiner
FO' SHIZZLE MY NIZZLE!!! [or something?] Joshua -Original Message- From: Andreas Paulsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 7:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Bitching, Whining and Crying. Couldn't agree more!! -Original Message-

RE: [hlds_linux] Universal banning

2002-08-22 Thread Eric (Deacon)
That's a pretty cynical view of everything. If they DO make a couple of extra bucks off it, more power to them. But to perceive this as only a way to get kids to buy more copies of HL... Seems kind of like a low blow to Valve. They work their asses off creating a system that will hopefully

RE: [hlds_linux] Universal banning

2002-08-22 Thread Eric (Deacon)
Just my 2 Franks :-) Don't you mean Euros? :P -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux