[Hornlist] one more Beethoven4 advice

2005-10-07 Thread Alon reuven
step 1) remove the 1st finger Fside slide during the break before the high entrance 2)* buzz* the high Bb on the Fside one beat before the entrance . 3) without stopping the buzz ' press the thumb trigger . your entrance is going to be just perfect . Alon Reuven , Israel _

Re: [Hornlist] Ever Heard of This Make?

2005-10-07 Thread Jerry Houston
Alan Cole wrote: The eBay seller may be unfamiliar with those instruments. They are products of the York instrument company & you have to be a Dork to play 1. ... When I got to 8th grade, the teacher wouldn't let me play in the band unless I put away the York alto horn & took up 1 of their Con

RE: [Hornlist] disrespect in the section

2005-10-07 Thread David Goldberg
On Fri, 7 Oct 2005, Trey Johnson wrote: ...I certainly wouldn't want any negative stigma associated with playing 4th horn. ... I sometimes worry about "tone of voice" in email, and hope that David or anyone else on the list doesn't think I'm being unfair to them -- just voicing my opinion.

[Hornlist] disrespect in the section

2005-10-07 Thread Ralph Mazza
I'm going to suggest yet another interpretation: The troublemaker is male, Mara is a female who has superior experience and playing ability. So maybe his problem is the bruised ego of a guy who feels dimished when he can't compete successfully with a female. It happens. The suggestion that

[Hornlist] Re: Horn Digest, Vol 34, Issue 7

2005-10-07 Thread Jim McDermott
If you are section leader, just demote him to 4th part or rearrange the seating so he sits last chair. Jim McDermott I was wondering if anyone might give me suggestions as to how to deal with a disrespectful section member ___ post: horn@mu

Re: [Hornlist] Ever Heard of This Make?

2005-10-07 Thread Paul Manly
Lucky you to have a teacher with some sense! - Original Message - From: "Alan Cole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "The Horn List" Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Ever Heard of This Make? The eBay seller may be unfamiliar with those instruments. They are pr

RE: [Hornlist] Re: Horn Digest, Vol 34, Issue 7

2005-10-07 Thread Baucom.Fred
Or if you want to really teach him a lesson, demote him to 1st alto saxophone. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim McDermott Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 2:56 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Re: Horn Digest, Vol 34, I

RE: [Hornlist] disrespect in the section

2005-10-07 Thread Walter E. Lewis
Hi Mara, I really like Orlando's idea. Even if this meatball's name is Luca Brazzi, look what the Tataglia family did to him with the ice pick and piano wire.If you're not sure who they are, ask me the next time we are on a gig, and I'll tell you all about it. I'm sure you can find an old pian

Re: [Hornlist] Ever Heard of This Make?

2005-10-07 Thread Walter E. Lewis
Herr Professor, I ask, is this "French" horn a worth candidate for your celebrated Mellophone toss, or do you not toss Alto horn's as well? Respectfully teaching my students the meaning of life via Kopprasch #1 Walt Lewis At 02:27 PM 10/7/2005 -0400, you wrote: Now, any further informat

RE: [Hornlist] Kruspe vs Geyer wrap horns

2005-10-07 Thread Adam Black
Dear Steve, Thanks - couple of good resources. The answer to your question, is that the valves really only have about 12 months left - already need a heavier engine oil to "keep them quiet" and mobile. Thanks, Adam From: "Steve Freides" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: The Horn List To: "'The

[Hornlist] Re: Beethoven's 4th Symphony

2005-10-07 Thread Nielsen Dalley
The solution I use on the entrance of the high B flat in the first horn part in the second movement is a trick I learned from Louis Stout. Remove the 1st valve slide on the F horn side. The clarinet plays a slow descending scale High E flat, D and C just before the horn plays the high B flat. Yo

RE: [Hornlist] disrespect

2005-10-07 Thread Jonathan West
OK, so lets summarize. 1. Its a college orchestra 2. His remarks aren't loud enough for the conductor to hear them in rehearsal 3. He is annoying & upsetting you 4. You lack the power to fire him, and nobody else is going to. In other words, you are stuck with him 5. He's acting like a child & get

Re: [Hornlist] disrespect

2005-10-07 Thread Jennifer M. Presar
I have to agree with Dr. McGale. I have just recently given the speech to a student (after missing a orchestra run-out concert) that everytime you hold the horn you are not only representing yourself, but your section, your teacher, your studio, your ensemble, your school, and on and on. Every b

RE: [Hornlist] disrespect

2005-10-07 Thread Pandolfi, Orlando
While I am still not an advocate for the shoe polish and potato sack over the head cure, perhaps this boy needs to be tested for ADHD. From what you say, this boy's problem is not really with you, but is connected to something bigger. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[

RE: [Hornlist] disrespect in the section

2005-10-07 Thread Pandolfi, Orlando
One must intimidate first, I guess. Besides, the ice pick and piano wire is a bit too "Italian". (unless this kid's name is Luca). I would bet Hans has a more clever method. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday,

RE: [Hornlist] disrespect in the section

2005-10-07 Thread Pandolfi, Orlando
Believe it or not, If college students actually did what you suggest, they would, at least in my state, be sent to prison, as "hazing" as we call it, is a criminal offense. No Hans, we would rather drug them then humiliate them. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EM

[Hornlist] RE: Horn Digest, Vol 34, Issue 6

2005-10-07 Thread John Schreckengost
Hi Mara and Karen, I sent out the following link to my horn students (and student brass quintet members) at the university where I teach at the beginning of the school year, and said it was important to read and digest. It is to the section on ensemble etiquette on Douglas Yeo's website (Mr. Yeo i

RE: [Hornlist] disrespect in the section

2005-10-07 Thread Hans
I would also suggest, that the other three of the section agree to talk with the orchestra´s commitee, telling them: get the nasty boy back to order or face that we go on strike, so the nasty boy has to play all & everything alone. Mara, you should see how quickly they get the nasty boy back to nor

Re: [Hornlist] disrespect

2005-10-07 Thread Kjellrun Hestekin
This advice is free, so take it for what it's worth It sounds as if you've done everything you can do, assuming you're dealing with someone with normal, rational emotions. It sounds to me as if this guy has problems which may not actually have anything to do with you at all - this is just

[Hornlist] Mutual respect

2005-10-07 Thread rob
Ah this topic is interesting to me: disrespect in the section First of all I have a couple of stories: In my six years in Sacramento Symphony full time we had a very good horn section that was often praised as the best section in the orchestra. This section really worked well together and I f

RE: [Hornlist] disrespect in the section

2005-10-07 Thread David Goldberg
Influence the conductor to reassign #2 to switch with 4th horn. { David Goldberg: [EMAIL PROTECTED] } { Math Dept, Washtenaw Community College } { Ann Arbor Michigan } ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or

RE: [Hornlist] disrespect in the section

2005-10-07 Thread Trey Johnson
While I understand the concept here, I'm not sure that's the best solution. I certainly wouldn't want any negative stigma associated with playing 4th horn. I understand in educational ensembles sometimes chair placement can be important (it was to me), part of what should be explained in a unive

RE: [Hornlist] disrespect in the section

2005-10-07 Thread Hans
Davids "switch 2nd & 4rth was not meant as a punishment for the nasty player, but just dislocate him from the seat next to the principal. A logical local decision. And, playing 4rth is by far very insteresting & challenging, often more than playing 2nd. =

[Hornlist] Re: disrespect in the section

2005-10-07 Thread Hurricane Chinooks
Mara, One of the things that will work is to make less mistakes. I'm not saying that you make many mistakes now, but if you don't make any mistakes, he will have nothing to say. Joyce Maley >Behalf Of Mara Cushion >Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 5:01 PM > >I was wondering if anyone might g

[Hornlist] no 4th

2005-10-07 Thread Mara Cushion
We don't have a 4th horn anyway... Yes, we're that limited. Most of the time lately, it's just the 2 of us as the 3rd horn has been out, tending to his ill wife. 2nd horn doesn't usually act like that around 3rd horn, but you know he's still stirring about it. ~Mara

[Hornlist] Ever Heard of This Make?

2005-10-07 Thread HORNTRASH
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Re: [Hornlist] Ever Heard of This Make?

2005-10-07 Thread Alan Cole
The eBay seller may be unfamiliar with those instruments. They are products of the York instrument company & you have to be a Dork to play 1. I claim accuracy for the 2nd part of that statement on the basis of tooting 1 in 6th & 7th grades in the Oak Street School Band & the Falls Church Scho