RE: [Hornlist] What The Heck Is It ?

2005-10-14 Thread Hans
Shorter instruments require different solutions which would appear strange to somebody who never thought about this solution. I got a fine descant (high F with harmonics for sopranino Bb) built with an original baroque bell shape. But the tube was too short to be bent into the first valve. So we en

RE: [Hornlist] Handicap Question

2005-10-14 Thread Hans
Sorry, very sorry, Bill, but this "fighter" was in the "business" long before he lost his legs, so did Colonel Rudel, also highest decorated fighter pilot. But the young girl has not yet begun learning an instrument. Why to start with an obstacle while perhaps talented in another field where the ha

[Hornlist] Youth Orchestra horn sectional ideas

2005-10-14 Thread Michelle Fawcett
I'm leading an all-day horn sectional for our local youth orchestra. Would anyone like to share their favourite activities for leading a developing horn section? I'll spend a fair time on fun breathing exercises and focus on producing a beautiful ensemble sound with 4 part chorales and trios, e

Re: [Hornlist] What The Heck Is It ?

2005-10-14 Thread Jerry Houston
Paul Mansur wrote: It appears to me that it is a shepherd crook cornet. It is not an uncommon instrument, being used in most Brass Band organizations. Sure is. I've owned various examples, but they've all been a more conventional wrap. I haven't seen one that bypasses the second valve on th

Re: [Hornlist] What The Heck Is It ?

2005-10-14 Thread Paul Mansur
It appears to me that it is a shepherd crook cornet. It is not an uncommon instrument, being used in most Brass Band organizations. Mansur's Answer On Friday, October 14, 2005, at 03:26 PM, Alan Cole wrote: I've seen plenty of odd-looking instruments, both hornish & non-hornish. Here's 1

[Hornlist] What The Heck Is It ?

2005-10-14 Thread Alan Cole
I've seen plenty of odd-looking instruments, both hornish & non-hornish. Here's 1 that defies recognition: http://cgi.ebay.com/Musical-Instrument_W0QQitemZ7357680114QQcategoryZ16215QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -AC. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.

[Hornlist] Fingerings, Singerings

2005-10-14 Thread David Goldberg
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005, David Jewell wrote: I firmly advocate that all horn players should be singers in some capacity, especially choral, and that they should listen to - gasp - opera some too. paxmaha gasp, sigh - for those of us who can't or won't sing, at least we can play real songs and us

[Hornlist] Fingerings

2005-10-14 Thread Wendell Rider
On Oct 14, 2005, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from: Herbert Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> subject: RE: [Hornlist] Fingerings Way back when I took my first lessons, and dinosaurs roamed the earth, I was taught that 3rd space C was the proper switch point. Lately I've been taught that

RE: [Hornlist] Handicap Question

2005-10-14 Thread Bill Gross
Hell, there was a famous WWII RAF Pilot who lost both legs and continued to fly Spitfires. Finally shot down over Germany he parachuted to safety but lost both artificial legs in the process. An RAF mission flew over the camp he was in and dropped a replacement set of prosthetics. Just shows wha

Re: [Hornlist] Fingerings

2005-10-14 Thread David Jewell
I have to agree with Hans and Paul about the human voice being perhaps our grail as horn players. Lately I have been relistening to a recording of some sonatas by Pavel Vejvanofsky, a bohemian baroque composer, who seemingly wrote quite a bit for clarino trumpet and trombone. Although the reco

Re: [Hornlist] Handicap Question

2005-10-14 Thread Paul Kampen
Message text written by The Horn List >You can develop into a fine horn player with only one hand. A missing hand can be most effectively replaced by a prosthetic hand, < Dear All There is a very good amateur player in the Leeds area of West Yorkshire who plays with a prosthetic right hand. Th

Re: [Hornlist] Fingerings

2005-10-14 Thread Paul Mansur
Hans has it right, folks. The double horn is a fine instrument but all too often i find students who lock in on a switch point and then miss great opportunities to utilize all the resources found in the double horn. The secret of it all is to develop that F horn sound; and then learn to dupli

RE: [Hornlist] Fingerings

2005-10-14 Thread Herbert Foster
Way back when I took my first lessons, and dinosaurs roamed the earth, I was taught that 3rd space C was the proper switch point. Lately I've been taught that 2nd line G is the proper one, on the theory that you're staying on the same harmonic up to C. This is the default fingering before you have

Re: [Hornlist] Verdi Requiem

2005-10-14 Thread Paul Mansur
On Friday, October 14, 2005, at 05:34 AM, Daniel Canarutto wrote: By the way, I now realize that I could answer my previous question about the A and Ab parts just by looking at the I and II horn parts, which are in E and Eb; obviously these could not be lower than III and IV! Oh yes, they

RE: [Hornlist] Music from the Danish Royal Library

2005-10-14 Thread Bill Gross
I think many people would be amazed at what can be found in the shelves of libraries. A researcher looking at Libraries in Spain found music manuscripts written for the Court in the 17th Century and in the Spanish colonies in the New World. He found enough to spur his interest and lead to the cre

RE: [Hornlist] Music from the Danish Royal Library

2005-10-14 Thread Eric James
Because that's what I do, Herr Pizka. I am one of those researchers. Show me a modern edition of Gustav Helted's Decet. > "If only other national libraries would offer the same > service." , well, than all the work done by the > researchers & by the publishers is obsolete & the circle > starts

RE: [Hornlist] Fingerings

2005-10-14 Thread Jonathan West
> > > There is no switch point at all. It depends what you are > playing. > I would agree with what Hans says. In addition, if you are playing a double horn, you should aim to get a tone quality from the Bb side that in most conditions is indistinguishable from what you get from the F side, so th

[Hornlist] Looking around

2005-10-14 Thread Jim McDermott
Is there anyone on this list from Columbia or Springfield, Missouri, who might know of a community group needing a horn player? I currently play in a community orchestra, but the music is usually less than challenging. I would like to join a group that plays a college level repertoire. Jim

RE: [Hornlist] Music from the Danish Royal Library

2005-10-14 Thread Hans
"If only other national libraries would offer the same service." , well, than all the work done by the researchers & by the publishers is obsolete & the circle starts again. From bottom. Why not just getting the modern publications, without the hazzle of arranging ones own score etc. finding t

RE: [Hornlist] Fingerings

2005-10-14 Thread Hans
There is no switch point at all. It depends what you are playing. It depends on chosing the best in tune notes. It depends with whom you are playing along, e.g. with other B-flat instruments (trumpet, clarinet), so you have to match their characteristic. It depends on how to ease the fingerings avo

Re: [Hornlist] Music from the Danish Royal Library

2005-10-14 Thread BVD Press
Tha last link Peter mentions is for the Serenade by Emil Hartmann for ten instruments. It's a terrific work and deserves to be better known. I believe there is a recording of it somewhere. here you go: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0IGLK/qid=1129294660/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_

Re: [Hornlist] Music from the Danish Royal Library

2005-10-14 Thread Eric James
Tha last link Peter mentions is for the Serenade by Emil Hartmann for ten instruments. It's a terrific work and deserves to be better known. I believe there is a recording of it somewhere. Also, there is the Decet for winds and strings by Gustav Helsted, another fine work. I've made modern scor

Re: [Hornlist] Music from the Danish Royal Library

2005-10-14 Thread Carlberg Jones
At 11:14 PM -0400 10/13/05, Peter Hirsch wrote: >http://www.kb.dk/elib/noder/div/hart-seren/index.htm Greetings - Careful with the Hartmann. The pages are tiny. Use some program or print option to make them fill the page. All the others are just fine as they are. Thanks to Eric James, I found

RE: [Hornlist] Fingerings

2005-10-14 Thread Bill Gross
This has been a most interesting discussion. I've picked up a lot of good information. One question does come to mind about the "switch point" for double horns. If the F horn has the more desired horn sound, why is the "commonly accepted switch point" g1 sharp (second line treble clef)? As Dr.

RE: [Hornlist] Verdi Requiem

2005-10-14 Thread Hans
Hold Daniel, hold, please, as there are plenty pieces where 3rd & 4rth horn go much higher than 1st & 2nd : Donizetti, Mendelssohn, etc. === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [Hornlist] Verdi Requiem

2005-10-14 Thread Daniel Canarutto
Hans wrote: The requiem surely asks for A-basso & Ab-basso. The conductors should know it from the score. It seems they cannot even imagine how a score should sound. Poor conductors, you have failed your profession. Is just money counting your business ? Thank you Hans and all who answered. A

Re: [Hornlist] Fingerings

2005-10-14 Thread Valkhorn
It wasn't meant in a derogatory way, Hans :) Even with drone parts I still listen, it's always been my policy - musicality everywhere when playing any music. -William In a message dated 10/14/2005 2:45:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And your "over & over & ov

RE: [Hornlist] Fingerings

2005-10-14 Thread Hans
Sorry, we (special myself) have different margins. Notes above g1 (2nd line from bottom) are still best on F-horn up to written c2 or d2 or e2. Note that the d1 as open F-horn-note is a perfect lucid note, full of light. If one does switch to the Bb-side above c2, why not. And your "over & over &