Re: [Hornlist] Le Chasseur Maudit

2009-08-25 Thread DalleyHN
This is an introspective musical piece with four very important horn parts. It open with the horns playing horn calls and echos. Later is some wery effective unison horn calls. Chambers Orchestral excerpts Volume III has all of the important parts. The Allegro Vivace section which is in the gall

Re: AW: [Hornlist] Re: Confusing transposition

2009-08-17 Thread dalleyhn
To my knowledge, in :Il Re Pastori there are two arias. The first (in C minor) with two horns in E flat and two horns in C. After the recitative there is another aria ( in C major ) with 4 horns in C. This is in the second act of the opera. Regards. __

[Hornlist] Frehse Concerto #1

2009-06-24 Thread dalleyhn
I have had several requests for the Frehse Concerto. I am happy to send e mail copies of the 1911 copy from my library. The reprint in 1952 was from a East German publisher (VEB Hofmeister - Leipzig). Thus both the original publication and the reprint are not copyright protected. I should point

Re: [Hornlist] re: Albin Frehse (1878-1973) (Richard V. West)

2009-06-19 Thread dalleyhn
The Alban Frehse, Horn Konzert, exists (in the US) in the horn and piano arrangement published by Friedrich Hofmeister, Leipzig (1911), and reprinted by VEB Hofmeister, Frankfurt am Main (1952). The piano arrangement is not credited, I do not believe that Frehse made it. Possibly William Kruger,

RE: [Hornlist] Re: Horn Digest, Vol 77, Issue 5

2009-05-05 Thread dalleyhn
That is true. The composition is in B flat. The horn goes to high D, I think three times. The vinyl, typical of the practice in that era, was produced from a tape master that was sped up to inprone the 'brightness' of the recording. If you look at the vidio of the recording studio you can see th

Re: [Hornlist] NHR - Beethoven factoid?

2009-04-28 Thread dalleyhn
During Beethoven's lifetime, I suspect I was an expensive commodity. Mechanical refrigeration had not yet been invented, so most ice was harvested during the winter and stored in insulated "ice houses". Thus I think the factoid may be inaccurate. Regards.

Re: [Hornlist] Horn duets with band?

2009-04-22 Thread dalleyhn
The Dalley Horn Catalogue - 2006 Edition on CD ROM lists 9 pieces for two horns and band. One is an American arrangement of an opera duet, published by Cundy-Bettoney (now long out of print). The others are local German publications, which would take some digging to locate their addresses. The o

Re: [Hornlist] THE FRENCH HORN ; SOME NOTES ON THE EVOLUTION OF THE INSTRUMENT AND OF ITS TECHNIQUE

2009-03-25 Thread dalleyhn
Morley-Pegge was a horn player (Student of Bremond) and musical historian, published his book "The French Horn" in 1960. It is comprehensive and well illustrated, at least the first edition, which is in my library. For those seriously interested in the horn, this book- plus those by Robin Gregor

[Hornlist] First horn part to "3 duos Concertant" by Antonon Clapission

2009-03-25 Thread dalleyhn
Naybody happen to have the first horn part. I have the second part, However the usual library sources, including the Library of Congressm does not. A copy by e mail would be appreciated. Thanks ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options

[Hornlist] Re:Bb slides on top

2009-02-11 Thread dalleyhn
Referring to an old Sansone catalogue (1952); He marketed many different horn models. His design with the B flat slides on top of the F slides was his Model #5. The model that was the copy of the Conn 8D was his model # 5C. His copy of the Schmidt double with the piston change valve was his mode

[Hornlist] Re: Die Rosenfee

2009-02-04 Thread dalleyhn
Good research. Thanks. You are fortunate to have had access to the score. I comclude that Gumpert is the culprit. But why Schumann when operas by Halevy are included in other volumes of Gumpert's Orchestral Excerpts? Well, we can always blame someone else, perhaps the printer. Regards. _

Re: [Hornlist] Beethoven quintet in E flat

2009-02-03 Thread DalleyHN
The Schott publication is an arrangement by Willy Hess. The first 157 measures of the original manuscript are lost, as is the trio section of the minuet and the entire last movement. Hess recreated the first 157 measures using music from the portions of the original manuscript that survive. Alt

Re: [Hornlist] Die Rosenfee

2009-01-31 Thread dalleyhn
The Excerpt "Der Rosenfee" (Pink Fairy) first appeared in Gumbert Orchestral Excerpts - Volume 1. Pottag obviously copied into his own volumes of orchestral excerpts. Note the orientation, measure layout and fonts are identical. Now for the hard part. I cannot associate it to any of Schumann's w

Re: [Hornlist] Heinichen question

2008-12-30 Thread DalleyHN
Heinichen Concerto has a range from middle C to D above high C. It is Published by Editions Kunzelmann, Zurich or Edition Robert Oestermeyer, Leipzig. According to the Dalley Horn Catalogue - 2006 Edition. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu un

Re: [Hornlist] More fiddle tunes

2008-12-20 Thread DalleyHN
Knew Gordon Mumma from high school days (Ferndale Michigan) and College (University of Michigan). A good horn player, he moved into avant guarde music in college. His music "Hornpipe" was originally scored for solo horn, but played with a bassoon reed. Unusual, to say the least, and only modestl

Re: [Hornlist] Brahms Trio, Op. 40

2008-11-19 Thread DalleyHN
I agree with the horn list. Brahms intended it to be for waldhorn (without valves), violin and piano. Brahms played the piano part in the premiere and in many recitals later on. The piano part is massive and difficult, after all Brahms was an awsome piano virtuoso. The waldhorn suits the charact

[Hornlist] Re:Konzertstuck by Schumann

2008-10-25 Thread dalleyhn
I regret that I cannot cite the sources specifically. but, to the best of my knowledge 1. Schumann did write the Koncertstucj for 4 solo valve horns. The Orchestra parts are in F and are modest in nature and easily playable on either chromatic horns or natural horns, as was the character of Schu

Re: [Hornlist] Dvorak Horn Solo, Part 2

2008-10-05 Thread DalleyHN
In my opinion Dvorak wrote for valve horns, just as Brahms did. But he chose transpositions for horns for several reasons: 1. was to eliminate accidentals if the part had been written in F. Wagner specifically spoke to this, I believe in one of his letters. 2. to infer relationships with the pa

Re: [Hornlist] Dvorak Horn Solo

2008-10-04 Thread DalleyHN
I have played the first hotrn part in the Dvorak "Cello Concerto" many times. Horns 1 and 2 are in E (with portions of the second movement in D and in F), and the third horn is in D in the first movement, in D and C in the second movement and in E and D in the third movement. The long horn solo

[Hornlist] Re:David Matthews:Capriccio

2008-09-23 Thread dalleyhn
Although I have not seen the music, The Dalley Horn Catalogue - 2006 Edition lists this work as two horns and string orchestra. By the way the piece is a homage to Dennis Brain. The first horn has sxtensive melodic parts. the second horn has what I would call as a supportive role, lots of bass r

Re: [Hornlist] Duets for English horn & French horn

2008-09-02 Thread dalleyhn
Duets for English Horn, and Horn, possibly with piano or organ. The Dallry Horn Catalogue - 2006 Edition lists absolutely nothing for the combination. Best guess as an alternatative are horn duets where one part is quite high. The Mozart 12 duets come to mind. Regards. __

[Hornlist] Bruch Violin Concerto #1

2008-09-01 Thread dalleyhn
Dear Horn List: Am in need of the first horn part to Max Bruch, Violin Concerto #1, Op. 26. Would appreciate if copy could be e-mailed. Perhaps in GIF ir TIF file format. Please contact personally> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best regards. Nielsen S. Dalley ___

Re: [Hornlist] NHR - Loose cannon

2008-08-09 Thread dalleyhn
So true. My brother, John Dalley - a violinist tells the story about when he was a student at Curtis. He and the other students would often job at local symphony orchestras. One evening, when John was sitting as concertmaster, the orchestra was playing Saint-Saens "Carnival of the Animals" One s

[Hornlist] Re: Piccolo Furst Pless with valves

2008-07-19 Thread DalleyHN
What an increase in price. I bought mine in Germany in 1977 from Waffen Franconia (Hunting supplies) in Wurzburg for about $40.00. If you want to use mine for a while, say a year or three, let me know and I will sent it to you. Regards. ___ post: ho

[Hornlist] Re: RIP Jonell Lindholm

2008-07-07 Thread dalleyhn
Knew Jonell Lindholm for many years when she was in Michigan. She was a member of the Washtenaw Valley Waldhorn Verein, and a member of the Ann Arbor Symphony. She wwill be missed. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at

Re: [Hornlist] Peter and the Wolf

2008-06-10 Thread DalleyHN
Not omly does "Peter and the Wolf" have three horn parts, they are prominant. The narrator announces the three as representing the Wolf. So there are some important passanges for all three in three part harmony (In D minor, I believe). Also the second horn part has a couple of very low bass reg

[Hornlist] Re:What Is This?

2008-06-06 Thread dalleyhn
It is a tenor horn, somewhat like a Baritone Horn but with upright bell. Common in Europe. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

[Hornlist] Re:Hrn/Vln Duo?

2008-06-01 Thread dalleyhn
Not many pieces listed in the Dalley Horn Catalogue - 2006 Edition on CD. Of the 12 listed items only 10 are currently available. Most are published privately by their composers. One in particular is Richard Burdick - Grand Duo, Regina Sask., Canada. Wiener Waldhorn Verein in their catalogue lis

[Hornlist] Re: for no one

2008-06-01 Thread dalleyhn
Jasper Rees in his recent book "I Found My Horn" discusses this Beatles tune, and Alan Civil (who recorded the horn part). It apparently goes up to high E. However the tape was sped up when making the transfer to disk, which makes it sound like high F. Regards. __

[Hornlist] Re:Welsh horn Music

2008-05-26 Thread dalleyhn
Best known Welsh composer is Alun Hoddinut. He composed a Concerto, a Sonata and a piece for horn and strings "Aubade and Scherzo". All are published (in Horn and Piano) by Oxford. This is according to the Dalley Horn Datalogue - 2006 Edition on CD ROM. Also consider William Mathias, Concerto, a

[Hornlist] Re:Amram Horn Concerto

2008-05-18 Thread dalleyhn
According to the Dalley Horn Catalogue - 2006 Edition on CD ROM the answer for the Horn Concerto (1965) was written for horn and orchestra, and then arranged by the composer for horn and winds () and then again by the composer for horn and piano. Regards.

[Hornlist] Re: Bass clef notation

2008-05-17 Thread DalleyHN
I cannot say for sure why early bass clef notation was an octave too low. In my reading about the history of the horn I do not recall any discussion on the subject. In my opinion I think that the use of the "old style" notation occurred originally to notate C below middle C without using many le

Re: [Hornlist] Famous Muted Passages

2008-05-14 Thread DalleyHN
There are so many really interesting muted passages, almost too many to list. One thing about muted ( versus stopped ) passages is the style, or image that the passage evokes. For instance - Ominous, could be the muted passage in Sorcers Apprentice - Dukas. Reverse echo, could be the muted pas

[Hornlist] Re: Counting rests

2008-04-28 Thread dalleyhn
I agree with the difficulties of counting extended rests, especially in classical concertos. I ended up writing out my own horn part and then adding extensive cues, entrances by other instruments, measure numbers, and then on "throw away" copies add the interpetations by the conductor and solois

[Hornlist] RE: Counting rests

2008-04-28 Thread dalleyhn
My teacher recommended that the easiest way to count those long rest passages is to count backwards. When you reach "one" you know it is time to play. regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/ma

[Hornlist] Re: Pines of Rome

2008-04-28 Thread dalleyhn
It is interesting that your music librarian gave you the original flicorno parts and not the transposed parts. These were published by G Riccordi. Printed as separate parts are Horns V and VI which are the transposed Flicorni Tenore B flat original parts. Also printed as a cue line in Hornas I t

[Hornlist] Copies of Woodwind World

2008-04-26 Thread DalleyHN
A lister was asking about obtaining early copies of "Woodwind World" I located my copies of the five issues from 1959 and four of the five issues from 1960. Please contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if interested. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscri

[Hornlist] Re:Flanders and Swann

2008-04-24 Thread dalleyhn
The "Ill Wind" To Mozart Third Horn Concerto - last movement is the only music related parody I know of by them. I believe that they made three LP recordings. All of them very funny. Good Baritone singer and good pianist. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.m

[Hornlist] Re:Seeking quartet w/ orchestra piece.

2008-04-13 Thread dalleyhn
I believe the work is the Concerto for 4 Horns and orchestra by Heinrich Hubler. Music available from KaWe (which was acquired by and available from Hans Pizka). I believe he has for sale versions for horns and piano, and for horns and orchestra. Hubler, by the way was a valve horn player and re

[Hornlist] Re: Happy Blues

2008-04-12 Thread dalleyhn
Alas, the Dalley Horn Catalogue - 2006 Edition does not list the piece. I suspect that it might be a movement of a larger work or from a collection of pieces. But I do not know what it might be. There is a similar piece called Happy Song by Siennicke, published by Ludwig, for horn and keyboard/p

Re: [Hornlist] Bach Partita BWV 825

2008-03-08 Thread DalleyHN
I am not sure which partita you are interested since I am not familiar with all of the BWV listings. I presume that 825 are the solo violin partitas. Most familiar is #6 in E major which I believe is published in an edition for solo horn. #1 in g minor I am not sure. As a last resort, obtain th

Re: [Hornlist] Strauss Till Eulenspiegel Horns 5-8

2008-02-18 Thread DalleyHN
Strauss wrote the horns 5 thru 8 to reinforce passages in two places 1. in the "Inquisition" scene, where the horns reinforce the string parts, and 2 at the final several bars of the piece. When our orchestra was lucky enough to have the extra four parts played, we had then also serve as assist

Re: [Hornlist] Forgotten Gems

2008-02-11 Thread DalleyHN
Duo Concertante, Opus 10 (probably 1840-1950) by Otto Bach. Completely unknown. I found a published copy in the New York Library and have resurrected it and published it in a new edition. 12 minutes, range from pedal G to high C. Very much in the style of Schumann. Contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [Hornlist] orchestral Sousa

2008-01-14 Thread DalleyHN
Of interest on Sousa score. The University of Michigan Music Library has a photographic copy of Sousa's original draft of "The Stars and Stripes" march. It is for band but with parts for violins (2) violas, celli and bass written in the bottom five staves of the score. It is in D major. The horn

Re: [Hornlist] Fingering

2008-01-12 Thread DalleyHN
My horn, a Paxman model GT, is a CBA+ single horn with an F extension valve. Generally I play it in C all the time. Interestingly it makes the alternate fingerings for pitches below C (second space in the bass clef) more in tune than the Sansone fingerings for the B flat horn for the same pitche

Re: [Hornlist] Auf dem strom

2007-12-31 Thread DalleyHN
Alas, Yes. The original "Auf dem Strom" calls for horn in E. However there are versions with the work transcribed down a half step to E Flat, and down a whole step to the key of D. And I have heard of an arrangement in the Key of C, to accomodate a low voice. Thus I would not be surprised if a

Re: [Hornlist] 2nd horn solo in Beethoven 7

2007-12-20 Thread DalleyHN
The bore of modern horns is about 12 mm. Examples of 19th century hand horns have had bores of 10 mm and even 9mm. When you play one of these you are surprised how flexible they are especially in the lower register. Of course the effect is diminished if played using a modern mouthpiece having a

Re: offlist-[Hornlist] 2nd horn solo in Beethoven 7

2007-12-17 Thread DalleyHN
I tend to aggree. The scoring indicates that Beethoven inted the note F# to be lipped down from the G above it. On narrow bore natural horns in use in Beethoven's time the efferct was easy to produce without any diminishment of tone. Regards. ___ pos

Re: [Hornlist] 42nd Street

2007-11-20 Thread dalleyhn
Thanks Walter Lewis. I still play the Paxman GT. It is a great machine and easy blowing which makes it good for pit work. I have played "Fiddler" many times including with the original old hand written copied part, and with the newer printed part. But even the new part needed lots of editing, es

Re: [Hornlist] 42nd Street

2007-11-18 Thread dalleyhn
I have found playing in the pit is fun and builds endurance. I am in the middle of a 30 show run of "Oliver" at our local theater group in Gainesville, Florida. The part is challanging because only a small ensemble is playing and I have to play the horn 1 or 2 part and also play parts of Trombon

Re: [Hornlist] Japanese Horn Quartet Music

2007-11-13 Thread dalleyhn
Alas. The Dalley Horn Catalogue - 2006 Edition on CD does not list any horn quartets by Japanese composers, or horn quartets on Japanese folk melodies. The only thing that comes to mind would be a quartet arrangement of music from "Madam Butterfly". But again I am not aware of any published quar

Re: [Hornlist] A Question for Lawrence Yates

2007-11-05 Thread dalleyhn
We noticed the jacket photo of Alexander McCall Smith with a Tuba, even though he actually playes bassoon. Smith's books, by the way are excellent reading. His series of books about "The No. 1 Ladies Dectective Agency, (in Botswana) has a "rhythm" to the text that is symbolic of the native langu

Re: [Hornlist] Malcolm Arnold Concerto

2007-11-05 Thread dalleyhn
Available from Alfred Lengnick(sp?), London. through Mills music, New York. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

[Hornlist] Re:horn player in old movie

2007-10-26 Thread dalleyhn
.My guess id John Graas. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

Re: [Hornlist] Music Trivia

2007-10-02 Thread dalleyhn
Interestingly Yamaha makes brass instruments, grand pianos, and 200,000 ton petrolium carrying ships, and skis. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

Re: [Hornlist] B-flat or F fingerings in the low register

2007-09-27 Thread dalleyhn
I was taught to take advantage of the alternate fingering possibilities of both the F and B flat sides of the standard double horn. And depending how you tune the 3rd valve slides of both horns can have a lot of influence on which fingering to use. I personally tune the third valve slide of the

[Hornlist] Re:Verdi Requiem Horns 3 and 4

2007-09-12 Thread dalleyhn
he third and fourth parts in the Requiem are for horns in C, B flat, A and G Basso. Transpose down. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

[Hornlist] Re: Horn parts in Film

2007-09-03 Thread dalleyhn
Perhaps someone will remember. There was a black and white western, produced probably in late 40s or early 50s. The instrumentation for the entire film was a concertina stopped accordion and three horns. Can anyone recall the film title? Regards [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

[Hornlist] RE: Ruth Gipps Horn Concerto

2007-09-02 Thread dalleyhn
The Dalley Horn Catalogue lists Concerto as being published by Ticherage Press, Framfeld, England. Triton, for Horn and piano also published by the same. Suspect the publisher is the Gipps estate. Regards. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscri