I just bought a new french horn mpc that I am really fond of. I don't know the
exact specs, but it has a flat paxman rim and a b14 moosewood cup. I also play
trumpet and was wondering if anyone knew of a trumpet mouthpiece that would be
similar to my horn mpc.
I know those are really vague
Orlando makes a good point. After using Alexander horns for ten years,
it made a BIG difference to use a German mouthpiece. All of the Klier
and Tilz mouthpieces I tried worked better than anything else I had
used. The Paxman mouthpieces (including Halsead Chidell) were designed
for a more
Just an information: please inquire privately
My mouth piece is available now again silver plated or gold
plated (just a limited number). Also two of my double horns
are ready for shipment. Have tested them in actual
performances the last two weeks.
The two discovered pieces for two horns in E
Excuse me, I believe it was your sister, not your niece. My apologies.
From: Angela Gonzales [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [Hornlist] Mouthpieces and Horn Balance
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 13:33:07 -0700 (PDT)
Hello
Hello listers. Since I'm in a conserving mood lately (with all the high gas
prices), I'm putting two subjects in one email:
1) I'd like opinions on Blessing mouthpieces. My little sister is having to
deal with her high school band director on this. Not only did he give the
entire section at
Forget about adding weight. Instead, to lighten the load, how about a few
strategically tied helium balloons?
-- Alan Cole, rank, amateur
McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.
~~~
I'd like ideas on what I could do to add a little bit of weight to balance
my horn.
Hiya. Blessing mpces are inexpensive. 90 degrees?! Surely you jest.
That would put the bells straight up in the air! Maybe 30 to 45
degrees bend? I would expect some alteration and damage to the sound
but OK for mellophones.
As to the weight thing, I think it is not very important.
...or get a Pip Stick. Check out...
http://www.pyp.f2s.com/html/pipstick.htm
-- Alan Cole, rank amateur
McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.
~~
As to the weight thing, I think it is not very important. You HOLD the
horn in playing position. Adding weight to it
Hi Angela,
If I were you, I'd pose this question over on the Yahoo list, since Tom
Greer is a member. Im sure the Muus (his spelling) could be able to give
you a lot of reasons why not to bend a mouthpiece. By the way, my business
partner in my Brass Quintet, who is Principal Trumpet, had
The guy who came up with the Pip Stick also advises putting an 8-degree
bend in the mouthpiece. Check out...
http://freespace.virgin.net/pip.eastop/html/bent_mouthpiece.htm
-- Alan Cole, rank amateur
McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.
~~~
By the way, my business
Angela,
Without quoting your post:
1. Count your (Bent) Blessings: (One-One Thousand, Two-One Thousand)
Blessings are used by band directors because they are cheap. It is my opinion
that they are not good mouthpieces. I've tried them and lots of others, and
the Blessings are rarely
Check out www.atkinsonhorns.com mp's Mark makes excellent ones. I use the O
12 cup with a B rim on my Alex 103 works great.
John
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What kind of mouthpiece would you recommend for an advanced high school
student who is playing on a Holton?
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What kind of mouthpiece would you recommend for an advanced high
school
student who is playing on a Holton?
The one that fits that student's lips, teeth, and facial structure best.
You might just as well ask what size shoes you should get for running the
440. They'll
(trying Lawson mouthpiece on Lawson horn) ...felt better, I thought it
sounded better, I noticed that the horn responded better,
immediately.
This was also my experience. I've always played a Schilke 30 (same as
regular Holton Farkas mouthpiece) and, a couple of years ago I got the
chance to
mouthpieces.
O.
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Subject: [Hornlist] Mouthpieces - what does a narrower bore do?
I noticed when cleaning my son's Yamaha 30C4 mouthpiece
Dear Friends,
At a concert I attended a couple of years ago, I noticed that the principal
player (a friend from our Maryland Horn Club days) was playing a Lawson
horn instead of the Conn 8D he always played at Maryland Horn Club (before
horn club went defunct).
At intermission when I asked him
My teacher plays on a Lawson fourier without a Lawson mouthpiece, but I admit I
was surprised to find this out. During our first lesson we talked about how I
came to my equipment set up and he was very knowledgeble about Lawson
mouthpieces, not to mention complimentary.
Most of the people I
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My teacher plays on a Lawson fourier without a Lawson mouthpiece
Steve,
My personal experience (limited to less than 12 mpcs, and as an amateur
player) is that the bore size has a strong influence on my endurance. A
larger bore reduces my endurance and make the high range more difficult and
'airy' sounding. Too small a bore feels stuffy and I'm not able to
I noticed when cleaning my son's Yamaha 30C4 mouthpiece that it's distinctly
harder to get my cleaning brush through the tubing that's after the cup
portion. I'm pretty sure the bore (inside diameter) is smaller than the 7BW
mouthpiece I play. So, two questions:
1. All other things being
Is a Blessing 11 cup mouthpiece similar to a Holton Farkas MC
mouthpiece?!?!?!?
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Hello, all listers.
I am posting this to both lists, for best exposure for this message.
(Hans, I am not 'dodging' you!)
I am seeking a used Pizka mouthpiece, if one is available, and is not being used by
its present owner.I have not ever seen one, and without knowing if I can make
Are you looking for silver or gold? I've come to the conclusion that the
Pizka mouthpiece is too narrow for me (although it's great in other
respects), and I play a Denis Wick 4N exclusively now. Contact me off-list.
From: Joe Duke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Hornlist] Mouthpieces, again.
I
Since I have received a few private emails concerning information about the
book on mouthpieces that I mentioned in my earlier post on mouthpieces,
here is the information that I have:
Title:Understanding the Mouthpiece
Authors: John and Phyllis Stork
Publisher: Editions Bim
Jonathan,
Before you buy a Lawson, take time to check out a MooseWood. I use them
with my Alex and they slot excellently! Tom Greer (The Moose) is also a
hornist (as well as Walt Lawson)
You can check out the Moose's site at http://www.hornmouthpiece.com/ The
thing I like most about what the
I second this. He knows his stuff.
Dan
on 9/28/04 9:24, Walter E. Lewis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jonathan,
Before you buy a Lawson, take time to check out a MooseWood. I use them
with my Alex and they slot excellently! Tom Greer (The Moose) is also a
hornist (as well as Walt Lawson)
One of the most important decisions that the player has to make when choosing
a mouthpiece is what inner diameter(I.D.) fits your musculature.
Lip size and shape are important considerations in determining this.
The upper rim of the mouthpiece must be above the vibrating surface of the
lip and
) and get it a bit cheaper than you can ordering it yourself.
Sean
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Hello,
This may hit some of the same folks I tried earlier, but I seek mouthpiece
advice. Currently using a Schilke 30 mostly, and a 31B when middle and low
range stuff
Hello,
This may hit some of the same folks I tried earlier, but I seek mouthpiece
advice. Currently using a Schilke 30 mostly, and a 31B when middle and low
range stuff dominates. I like the free-blowing nature of the 31B, but not its
high range; like the high range of the 30, but not its
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...I seek mouthpiece advice. Currently using a Schilke 30 mostly,
and a 31B when middle and low range stuff dominates I've ordered
a 30B as a compromise. Any other suggestions?
Don't limit yourself to Schilke. Since getting mouthpieces on trial can
be painstaking,
Scott Laskey seems to base his mouthpiece line arond modifications to the 31B. The
chart he posts on his web site gives numbers, but you can probably talk to him as well.
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As another former Schilke player, I would recommend you try Lawson. I also found the
various Schilke models to be limited to doing well with only portions of the entire
range. I think you would find Lawson to be a good answer to the problems you
list...more than any mouthpiece I know of, it
Just to inform you, that I have received another dozen of my mouthpieces
back from gold plating. Price is 75.- EURO + shipment 8,05 Euro. In USD
you might calculate the EURO at 1,22 roughly. Shipment takes five to six
days to the USA. Payment can be arranged via card. Please contact me via
my
Dear List,
It is time to clean out my cigar box full of mouthpieces! I also wish
to sell a spare Lawson bell flare in ambronze, barely used:
Mouthpieces:
Conn 2 $10
King H2 $10
Holton MDC $12.50
Holton DC $12.50
Yamaha 30C4 $15 (3)
Schilke 30 (bored to 14 by Scott Laskey) $15
Schilke 31C2 $15
Hello this is Branden again. I bought a horn for myself a couple of months
ago. My first one. A Yamaha 668N. Not the second model but the original. I
have had more trouble with this horn (probably because its a double) than
the single Holton I played in high school. I have noticed how no matter
You could try The Art of French Horn Playing by Phillip Farkas, but I
wouldn't recommend spending another penny on any kind of equipment (texts,
mouthpieces, or otherwise) until you have a private teacher.
Sonja Reynolds
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Hello Ryan,
What seems to be the problem with the Giard C8 mpc when you use it on the
Yamaha?
Regarding your college audition playing - I suspect that items such as your
intonation, articulation, rhythm, and dynamics are much more important than
the 'sound quality' or extremes of range. As long
I hear this all the time, and I would guess other shops have heard it, too.
A customer is coming hard up against an audition or performance and wants to
find the Magic Bullet: that new horn, new mouthpiece, new bell, what have
you, that will get them the job, position, accolades, what have
not advocating anyone do any thing to take advantage of such people in
the musical career field. This is neither an advice to buy or sell.
Your mileage may vary.
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On Tue, 21 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I hear this all the time, and I would guess other shops have heard it,
too. A customer is coming hard up against an audition or performance
and wants to find the Magic Bullet: that new horn, new mouthpiece, new
bell, what have you, that will get
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Folks, there is no Magic Bullet. There is a lot of good equipment out
there,
and some will work better for you than others. But don't get new equipment
just weeks before an important performance or audition. You need to
At 09:29 AM 1/21/03 -0600, Bill Gross wrote:
Peddle musical magic bullets for folks like below.
The world has enough gullible people in it
Don't most of them play trumpet? Look at all the gadgets they are offered
and procure. Most trumpet players I know can only fit all their toys in a
gym bag.
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At 09:29 AM 1/21/03 -0600, Bill Gross wrote:
Peddle musical magic bullets for folks like below.
The world has
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From: John Kowalchuk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Don't most of them play trumpet? Look at all the gadgets they are offered
and procure. Most trumpet players I know can only fit all their toys in a
gym bag.
At 5:50 PM -0600 1/21/03, John Baumgart wrote:
Don't you mean
I think this is sage and very noble advice, especially coming from someone
who makes a living selling equipment. Thank you, Dave.
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I hear
I've recently switched to a yamaha 667vs after playing an 8D with a
giardinelli c8. Does anyone have a recommendation as to what mouthpiece I
should use with the yamaha? I've played a stork c10 the last week, and it
works reasponably well, but it's a bit difficult to play low, and it doesn't
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