ge, I used to get in trouble because I always corrected the
teacher's erroneous methods, and I fear my boys will follow in their
father's footsteps.
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write them for horn in F please
Cheers,
Lawrence
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I have enjoyed reading all the wise advice on transposition, and I
certainly agree that understanding the system is of prime importance.
What do you recommend for atonal music that does not follow a key-based
system? Is it best to notate these horn parts as though they were in F
(written a fi
ge-
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I almost wrote something similar myself but cut it for
brevity. :-)
I was also going to mention that we cope wi
). Irregular steps are more difficult, but we cope
without significant mental exercise. With practice, transposition can
be the same.
Simon
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subject: R
Actually you have to "calculate how far to lift each foot
for every step you take in a staircase" under certain
circumstance. One example: the old Khmer temple staircases,
thousend & more steps long ways up in the Chinese holy
mountains, staircases in old buildings, where steps can be
less or more,
Hello Ger, thank you for advertising my mouthpiece. I have
sold over 1000 now. All same type & same size.
Yes, I agree if you talk about a non professional horn
player. Well, a non professional less experienced horn
player would surely rewrite a part, if the part is a bit
complicated & in certain
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In the debate on transposition, one point I haven't seen is
the importance of knowing your scales and arpeggios.
For instance, if you
>
> Do you think the audience hears more missed notes due to transposition
> mess-ups?
> OR
> Do you think the audience hears more missed notes due to a
> confusing amount
> of notation in transposed parts?
Relatively few in the audience will notice such things at all. Of them, only
a minority wi
In the debate on transposition, one point I haven't seen is the importance
of knowing your scales and arpeggios.
For instance, if you know the A major arpeggio and scale absolutely
securely, then you already have much of what it takes to read horn in D. You
just see an arpeggio in C major and you
Ger, exactly what you said, makes the difference between
professional & lay musicians. The lay musicians think mostly
how great it be to make great music. They feel they do all
for the great music, but forget, that the "tools" must be
acquired first. And many of the lay community of musicians
"set
As an amateur who lost 20 years of playing to my "other" job, I don't see
what the fuss is about. After 20 years it all came back to me very quickly.
Yeah, B still gives me some problems, but if I practiced more I'm sure I
could master it.
So maybe we should stop teaching math in school and just
, Carmen).
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Hi Jim,
.. small world. I just handed the 3rd horn part of
Mendelssohn&#
Hi Jim,
.. small world. I just handed the 3rd horn part
of Mendelssohn's "Elijah" ("Elias") to a player who
will have to play the music Thursday evening. He
will have to play (and transpose) movements
in C, D, E, A and Bb (there is also some F).
The first horn will play in C, D, E, Eb,
Scientific? If you haven't already done so, check out the site for The
Catgut Society.
Bill
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Another note(sorry about the pun...)on trans
Another note(sorry about the pun...)on transposed vs. non-transposed parts
as it ties to horn writing in the classical genre:
If you work in the original keys, even (gasp) using some hand horn
technique, you may discover some incredible genius in the part writing
becomes apparent. Try the Beethove
Paul Mansur wrote:
My personal view is that original music to be transposed, often makes
more sense to me than transposed parts; especially for classical era
works. I find it much easier to perceive the function of the notes
(root, dominant, seventh, etc) in original notation than transposed
par
My personal view is that original music to be transposed, often makes
more sense to me than transposed parts; especially for classical era
works. I find it much easier to perceive the function of the notes
(root, dominant, seventh, etc) in original notation than transposed
parts. The usua
Then you think Richard Strauss be a complete idiot, because
he wrote the horns in A or E when the tonality was A or E,
so to have very clean horn parts. Horn players have other
things to care about, special first horns, than to read a
multitude of flats or sharps infront of the notes. A clean
part
That's all very well as long as there are transposed copies to play from. Often
there aren't.
Emory Waters
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You people who 'insist' on having hor
I am a 4th year undergraduate who can't play piano. *blush*
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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:37:21 -0700
Steve Freides wrote:
Basic facility at the piano ought to
'd learned sooner and would encourage anybody I taught to think
about it from very early on.
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In a message dated 27/02/2006 07:31:53 GMT Standa
; respect for the creators of the
masterpieces.
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Dear Friends,
It sounds perverse, but it's true:
t and honesty, but particularly his
ability to discriminate.
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Dear Friends,
It sounds perverse, but it&#
It's a philosophical thing, approaching religion, in the same realm as bbq
beef vs. bbq pork (an anathema).
"De gustibus non est disputandum"
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Dear Friends,
It sounds perverse, but it's true: Anything Worth Doing Is Worth Doing
Poorly.
Think about it: If nobody could or should play horn except those people
who can do all the transpositions, sight-read all parts in any key & any
clef, & play accompaniments on piano, then lots of f
Steve Freides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Basic facility at the piano ought to be required of every musician, in my
opinion. It is a requirement at every conservatory and every university
music department I know. Typically some majors, e.g., conductors and
composers, are required to have a high
Steve Freides wrote:
Basic facility at the piano ought to be required of every musician,
in my opinion. It is a requirement at every conservatory and every
university music department I know.
Why? Many reasons - for one, every instrumentalist ought to be able
to at least schlep through
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think there is a point where the horn player has to start thinking about
learning transposition,but that usually doesn't come until right before
college
I disagree completely. My 10year old pupils can
wow did this thread get blown up. I think the orignal argument was concerning
a
high schooler who was looking to play the F parts on a Mozart concerto. I
don't think anyone is saying that these transposed parts are for anyone who
actually gets a paycheck playing the horn.
With that said, who ca
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OK, here we are agonizing over transpose or not then we get
a solid example of the value of transposing. The instances
of singers asking for a change up or d
Carlberg Jones wrote:
> At 7:09 PM -0500 2/26/06, Steve Freides wrote:
> >Anyone who calls themselves a musician should be able, at the very
> >least, to play something simple (like Twinkle, Twinkle,
> Little Star or
> >similar) in all twelves keys, and do this at the piano as well as on
> >th
At 7:09 PM -0500 2/26/06, Steve Freides wrote:
Anyone who calls themselves a musician should be able, at
the very least, to play something simple (like Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star
or similar) in all twelves keys, and do this at the piano as well as on
their main instrument.
Why at the piano?
Bill Gross wrote:
> OK, here we are agonizing over transpose or not then we get a
> solid example of the value of transposing. The instances of
> singers asking for a change up or down on the spot has been
> referenced in the past when this topic comes up. If an
> orchestra can meet a singer
OK, here we are agonizing over transpose or not then we get a solid example
of the value of transposing. The instances of singers asking for a change
up or down on the spot has been referenced in the past when this topic comes
up. If an orchestra can meet a singers request to change the key, what
Very refreshing to hear that, Steve. Prior to my playing and teaching
in Rome, Italy, I supplemented my scholarship at Juilliard by being a
teaching fellow in the solfegge dept. (Ear Training Dept., actually).
When I got to Italy, I was amazed (and humiliated) by how much better at
clef reading m
Perfect !!!
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Steve wrote:
Transposition is very easy if you k
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