Re: Mainframe Limericks...

Chris Mason wrote: The gender assignment of "Der Bachfisch" is very easy to explain - although I'll need help with the metaphor. Note that it's Backfisch, not Bachfisch, the latter of which I'm somewhat familiar with, having attended Schubert Gymnasium in Vienna for several years, and the for

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

Gerhard, The gender assignment of "Der Bachfisch" is very easy to explain - although I'll need help with the metaphor. This is an illustration of another rule which is that the gender of the last component determines the gender of the composite word. Since the last component is "Fisch" and "Fisch

Re: Old Hashing Routine

Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote: Indeed, but they forgot the need to adjust address constants and variables when moving things around. They should have given the software types more say in the design. os/360 relocatable address constants are a real pain. tss/360 (the "real" operating system tha

Re: Easy/maybe dumb question for a Friday - how do I tell if my box is running 31-bit or 64 bit?

Ah...now I think I understand your confusion. I apologize--its been a Friday full of "opportunities" provided by two of my ISVs. When the books talk about architecture, as in: - IEE254I hh.mm.ss IPLINFO DISPLAY text Explanation: Where text is: SYSTEM IPLED AT hh.mm.ss ON mm/dd

Re: Old Hashing Routine

IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 06/23/2006 02:11:54 PM: > so 3033 came up with a hack for supporting 32mbyte real storage. the 370 > page table entry was 16bits with a 12bit page number field (for > specifying a real 4k page ... 12+12 gives 24bit addressing or 16mbytes), > two defined

Re: Old Hashing Routine

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/23/2006 at 10:38 AM, Tom Marchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Amdahl didn't believe in virtual memory. It seems like he would have >anticipated the need for it, with the 360/67 already out, but the >original design for the 470/6 (IIRC) had to be stopped while they

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/23/2006 at 06:37 PM, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I expect you have in mind "Mädchen" and "Fräulein". Mädchen; Fräulein hadn't occurred to me, although it should have. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Old Hashing Routine

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/23/2006 at 09:13 AM, Charles Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I agree it's a shortcoming. FWIW, My impression has always been that >the hardware architects thought the base register/displacement scheme >was their "answer to" or "version of" hardware relocation. In

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/23/2006 at 05:11 PM, "Van Dalsen, Herbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I was mere referring to the PDP-11 Ah! E Unibus plurum. Still hardware rather than software, and still running softwarte that didn't look like Unix. More precisely, AFAIK the only PDP-11 softwar

Re: Help: User.parmlib inadvertently renamed

Yves, As far as I can see all the "alternatives" which have been suggested to you may be available only if you anticipated a disaster such as you describe. If you had anticipated such a disaster it is unlikely you would have posted your "help request". There's a "Catch 22" in there somewhere! So

Re: Availability of OS/VS RPG II 5740-RG1

On Friday 23 June 2006 07:52, Jim Marshall wrote: >>I'm trying to assess the availability of the OS/VS RPG II product ... > You may be the RPG for OS/MVT is available on the CBT site and last I > heard it is still working all the way into z/OS. I put it onto the CBT > Tape years ago and have hear

Re: Connecting to remote HMC

Mark, If you are running a windows XP mahine and if you had applied one of those security patches released last week (i.e jun 12 or 13th), seem to affect some network functionality. Refer to microsoft security bulleting MS06-25 or even MS06-21 (internet explorer) is related to routing and remote

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UNIX was officially named in 1970. MVS was released in 1974. However MVS was preceded by MVT which was released in 1964. os/360 ... pcp. i don't remember that you could "sysgen" mvt until release 12. boeing huntsville had custom modified mvt version 13 with virtual

SYSLOG and Incorrect Days Extra

I just noticed in the daily SYSLOG file we generate, that I am always getting 2 incorrect days along with the current day seems to have started the day of an IPL. For example: the most current file is SYSLOG.DVLP.D060622 which was created at Midnight (6/22-6/23) --- It should have only Sys

Re: Connecting to remote HMC

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:12:17 -0500, Laine, Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have been connecting to my 2086 thru the HMC for the past month. Today >I'm getting ???badprotocoltitle??? error after entering the user & >password. > >I believe this is related only to my laptop, but don't know what

Re: Easy/maybe dumb question for a Friday - how do I tell if my box is running 31-bit or 64 bit?

Bob, Tom, and Sam. Thank you for helping me out with this one. I dug through the init and tuning reference and it was talking about arch level 1 and 2, but it didn't quite get around to defining what that actually meant. Even with the bunny trails this list chases (football versus soccer, metric

Connecting to remote HMC

I have been connecting to my 2086 thru the HMC for the past month. Today I'm getting ???badprotocoltitle??? error after entering the user & password. I believe this is related only to my laptop, but don't know what could have changed to cause this error. Anyone have any ideas? Rogers _

Re: Easy/maybe dumb question for a Friday - how do I tell if my box is running 31-bit or 64 bit?

Yes. You are in 64 bit mode. Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO Performance and Availability Management mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (office) 301.986.3574 If you think nobody cares if you're alive, try missing a couple of c

Re: Easy/maybe dumb question for a Friday - how do I tell if my box is running 31-bit or 64 bit?

Pommier, Rex R. wrote: I am looking at using the SCRT and one of it's requirements is that I am running 64 bit on everything. So a more specific question would be "is z/OS 1.4 running on a z9-BC machine that shows ARCHLVL=2 running in 64 bit mode?" Yes. Bob -

Re: OT - J B Hunt

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 21:51:12 -0500, Eric N. Bielefeld wrote: >... >Actually, that brings up something that bugs me about this list. A lot of >people use acronyms, and don't define them. Lots of acronyms on this list, >most system programmers should know, but there are many that I know I don't

Re: Easy/maybe dumb question for a Friday - how do I tell if my box is running 31-bit or 64 bit?

I'm running 1.4 on a z9-BC processor. If I do the D IPLINFO I get the following output: IEE254I 14.56.40 IPLINFO DISPLAY 369 SYSTEM IPLED AT 13.24.33 ON 06/23/2006 RELEASE z/OS 01.04.00LICENSE = z/OS USED LOAD83 IN SYS1.PARMLIB ON 1E20 ARCHLVL = 2 MTLSHARE = N

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

OK, it's finally Friday. The English spelling that needs fixing is not the trivial inconsistency between US and UK. It's the pervasive internal inconsistency within the language itself. Steel vs. steal vs. stele. Say what? Why was the latest North American National Spelling Bee a multi-hour sp

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

UNIX was officially named in 1970. MVS was released in 1974. However MVS was preceded by MVT which was released in 1964. David W Neylon, Sr Consultant/Data Security Analyst Information Security Technology (480) 724-4644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wells Fargo Confidential This message may contain conf

Re: Easy/maybe dumb question for a Friday - how do I tell if my box is running 31-bit or 64 bit?

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:06:11 -0500, Pommier, Rex R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >How do I tell if my machine is running 31 or 64 bit mode? Does >ARCHLVL=1 mean 31 bit and ARCHLVL=2 mean 64 bit? > >Thanks. > It depends. What level of z/OS are you running? If you are 1.5 or higher on a zArchite

Re: Easy/maybe dumb question for a Friday - how do I tell if my box is running 31-bit or 64 bit?

READY TEST 'SYS1.LINKLIB(IEFBR14)' TEST L a3. 00A3. 0101528C TEST end READY If the field FLCARCH in the PSA which is at PSA+A3 is x'01' you are running z/Architecture. If you are z/OS R6 or higher you are running z/Architecture be

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:13:00 +0200, Phil Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED] RESEARCH.FREESERVE.CO.UK> wrote: Snip! > >That led to other weirdness. My COBOL is now rusty, but IIRC there are two ways of handling >an array or table - indexes and subscripts? One was computed when set, the other when used, >

Easy/maybe dumb question for a Friday - how do I tell if my box is running 31-bit or 64 bit?

How do I tell if my machine is running 31 or 64 bit mode? Does ARCHLVL=1 mean 31 bit and ARCHLVL=2 mean 64 bit? Thanks. Rex -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] wi

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

Bruno, Somehow I missed the start of this thread and I cannot track down the post where the word "JCLs" was used. Thus I was responding only to the complaint about the use of the word "JCLs". I did find some earlier posts in the thread - and some not particularly good limericks - through Google g

Duplicate Postings

Is anybody else seeing duplication of postings? I have seen this message at least three times! At first, I thought it was GMAIL, but I've cleaned that out. . -teD Marching to the beat of a different flute -Original Message- From: Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri

Re: z/OS 1.7 JES2 Checkpoint Reserves?

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:19:55 -0500, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Does you 1.7 system have any activity going on? Try this: go into >RMFMON and hit PF9 (SENQR). Then you or someone else stop and start >a couple STCs from a console or submit some batch jobs while you are >hitting en

Re: Help: User.parmlib inadvertently renamed

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/23/2006 at 08:55 AM, Yves Lederrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Any idea how I could fix this ? Logon on to your emergency system, or use a standalone editor. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: z/OS 1.7 JES2 Checkpoint Reserves?

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:49:41 -0500, Cal McCracken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Check your HCD ("I/O gen") to verify that the DASD is defined as SHARED in >>both LPARs. (I'd bet that it is SHARED on the 1.6 LPAR but not on the 1.7 >>LPAR.) That would account for the lack of reserve activity. >>

Re: How to calculate power

Set TSO-REXX nomail - -teD 300,000 Kilometres per Second Not only is it a good idea! It's the LAW!!! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM

Mainframe Limericks...

I once met a computer - in his eighties in the 1970s. He'd worked for the Admiralty during the war as a general purpose computer helping with ship design, navigation tables and the like. He knew that many "wrinkles"... At Continental Gummiwerke in Hannover they have a "Data Processing Departme

Re: Mobius View Direct Infopac Storage Creep/Leak

Ken, What component ( job/task ) of View Direct is experiencing this behavior (i.e. CICS region, Administration Task, other, etc. )? We are running the View Direct ( release 6.2 ) and Document Direct ( release 1.2 ) and we haven't experienced exactly what you have described. We do see NON-CICS

Re: z/OS 1.7 JES2 Checkpoint Reserves?

> >By curiosity , can we see the $ckptdef results on both lpar ? >Thanks >Bruno >Bruno(dot)sugliani(at)groupemornay(dot)asso(dot)fr > >From z/OS 1.6 system: $D CKPTDEF $HASP829 CKPTDEF 793 $HASP829 C

Re: Does any shop run the 3390-27 ?

Bob Shannon wrote: Yes, we use it. Mod-27 is a fabrication - there is no actually device type called 3390-27. The same is true for Mod-54. Most software will report the device as a Mod-9. There shouldn't be performance problems as it's using SCSI drives on the backend. Check your DR shop to insur

Re: Old Hashing Routine

Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote: I don't know, but it certainly shocked me, given that there were already machines with a million words of memory. It didn't take a crystal ball to forsee growing memory demand. I wouldn't call that the biggest mistake, however. When the S/360 came out virtually al

Re: z/OS 1.7 JES2 Checkpoint Reserves?

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:49:41 -0500, Cal McCracken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I've already checked that and they are defined as shared to all LPARs. (I'm >pretty careful with that after trashing a shared RACF database a few years >ago due to that very situation). By curiosity , can we see the $ck

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote: What did they use for a test machine before the 3081 was available? There was a micro-order on the 3168 that was highly suggestive. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#25 Mainframe Limericks refers to posting http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006m.html#21 The

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

Chris Mason wrote: I expect you have in mind "Mädchen" and "Fräulein". I put this down to following the rules wherever they take you - in a manner not dissimilar to the "must not" problem I covered yesterday in IBMTCP-L. The suffixes "-chen" and "-lein" - or simply "-l" as in "stübl" - require th

Re: Old Hashing Routine

Are other people seeing re-posts, as well? This was sent yesterday, and I remember reading it. I thought it was GMAIL, so I went and emptied my inbox. This is still happening. --Original Message-- From: Jack Kelly Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: Mainframe Discussion List, IBM Rep

Re: z/OS 1.7 JES2 Checkpoint Reserves?

>Check your HCD ("I/O gen") to verify that the DASD is defined as SHARED in >both LPARs. (I'd bet that it is SHARED on the 1.6 LPAR but not on the 1.7 >LPAR.) That would account for the lack of reserve activity. > >-- >Tom Schmidt >Madison, WI Tom, I've already checked that and they are define

Re: z/OS 1.7 JES2 Checkpoint Reserves?

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:40:24 -0500, Cal McCracken wrote: >I have a z/OS 1.6 LPAR and a z/OS 1.7 LPAR. Both are running as MONOPLEXes >without shared JES2 spool. SHARED=NOCHECK is specified for both on MASDEF. >A 30 minute Enqueue Monitor capture on the 1.6 system shows numerous JES2 >checkpoint re

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

Shmuel, I expect you have in mind "Mädchen" and "Fräulein". I put this down to following the rules wherever they take you - in a manner not dissimilar to the "must not" problem I covered yesterday in IBMTCP-L. The suffixes "-chen" and "-lein" - or simply "-l" as in "stübl" - require the neuter gen

Re: Old Hashing Routine

I agree it's a shortcoming. FWIW, My impression has always been that the hardware architects thought the base register/displacement scheme was their "answer to" or "version of" hardware relocation. Over time, though, link editor/loader relocation has seldom been a problem (except for our VSE frien

Re: z/OS 1.7 JES2 Checkpoint Reserves?

>From z/OS 1.6 system: $D MASDEF $HASP843 MASDEF 537 $HASP843 MASDEF OWNMEMB=SYS1,AUTOEMEM=OFF,CKPTLOCK=ACTION, $HASP843 COLDTIME=(2004.273,23:23:16),COLDVRSN=z/OS 1.4, $HASP843

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

Shmuel, My mistake... I was mere referring to the PDP-11 that was a few years before the S/360.. This piece is from the DEC archives... Instead they started building small digital "modules" (each effectively a single component from the TX-2 design) that could be combined together to be used in a

Re: z/OS 1.7 JES2 Checkpoint Reserves?

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:40:24 -0500, Cal McCracken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I have a z/OS 1.6 LPAR and a z/OS 1.7 LPAR. Both are running as MONOPLEXes >without shared JES2 spool. SHARED=NOCHECK is specified for both on MASDEF. >A 30 minute Enqueue Monitor capture on the 1.6 system shows numero

Re: SSL/TLS Woes FTP

Consider using the PASSIVEDATAPORTS parameter in the server's FTP data file to specify the range of ports used for the data connection. That can reduce the size of the hole that the network guys have to poke in the firewall. -- F

Re: Old Hashing Routine

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:10:59 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/22/2006 > at 10:16 AM, Charles Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >>Was it Gene Amdahl who said the biggest mistake of the 360 >>architecture was the 24-bit addresses? > snip! > >I wouldn't call th

Re: SSL/TLS Woes FTP

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Matt Simpson > > If you have activated GSK trace via the environment variable > someone mentioned earlier, the grace will be written to a > file in the /tmp directory. It will have gsk somewhere in > the name, and

Other listservs

I've got a question concerning enlarging volumes on a DS8100. Are there any listservs dedicated to IBM storage? Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems 1700 Summit Lake Drive Tallahassee, FL. 32317 Office: 850.219.5184 Fax: 888.221.9862 http://www.mainline.com

Re: Help: User.parmlib inadvertently renamed

Use the SETPROG MVS command to APF the library. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Finnell Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 10:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Help: User.parmlib inadvertently renamed In a message dat

Re: Help: User.parmlib inadvertently renamed

In a message dated 6/23/2006 9:47:15 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ed I have not tried it yet but I don't have any reason to believe it doesn't. I have tested it on previous zSeries processors. >> Thanks, seems straight forward enough. But ya never know. --

Re: Old Hashing Routine

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/22/2006 at 10:16 AM, Charles Mills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Was it Gene Amdahl who said the biggest mistake of the 360 >architecture was the 24-bit addresses? I don't know, but it certainly shocked me, given that there were already machines with a million words

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/23/2006 at 09:15 AM, "Van Dalsen, Herbie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >To me unix looks and feels very much like DEC/VAX, VAX is a hardware architecture; perhaps you mean VMS, which didn't look remotely like Unix. >and DEC surely precedes IBM ! Not even close; IB

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/23/2006 at 09:13 AM, "Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >MULTICS came out around 1965, which then became UNICS, then UNIX. No, MULTICS did *not* become UNICS; the two are unrelated. Don't confuse staffing with design. -- Shmuel (Seymour

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/23/2006 at 10:00 AM, Kirk Talman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >All the AEC national labs in the 50's made their own machines. >Robert Rannie of Share boat paddle fame made his start as a >programmer in Oak Ridge National Laboratory (X-10 site) on one of >those mach

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/23/2006 at 08:53 AM, Tom Marchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Much older? The Multics project started in 1964. When was SPREAD? When did IBM start designing OS/360? That was certainly well before 1964. >Ken Thompson joined the team in 1966. That was MULTICS, whi

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/23/2006 at 07:51 AM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >in the mid-70s, as part of getting ready for 370/xa that would come >out in the early 80s with 3081 ... work on mvs/xa was begun. What did they use for a test machine before the 3081 was availabl

Re: Help: User.parmlib inadvertently renamed

IF you have Omegamon or Sysview or any other product that has a terminal interface you could use that product to APF authorized that library. Saved me. Thanks -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Lamerand Sent: Friday, June 2

Re: SSL/TLS Woes FTP

If you have activated GSK trace via the environment variable someone mentioned earlier, the grace will be written to a file in the /tmp directory. It will have gsk somewhere in the name, and some kind of numeric qualifier to make it unique. I forget exactly what it looks like, but you should be a

Re: Help: User.parmlib inadvertently renamed

> > Consequence: I can no longer IPL: I receive a message saying that > User.parmlib was not found on Z7SYS1, and the VTAM abends saying that one > module is in a non authorized library. > If getting VTAM up will allow you to fix your problem can't you APF- authorize the necessary libraries o

Re: Help: User.parmlib inadvertently renamed

Ed I have not tried it yet but I don't have any reason to believe it doesn't. I have tested it on previous zSeries processors. Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO Performance and Availability Management mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

IGD042I COMMDS dsname SUCCESSFULLY REPAIRED

Over the years I have seen this message appear at different time throughout our Sysplex: IGD042I COMMDS dsname SUCCESSFULLY REPAIRED I only saw one hit on IBMLINK in regards to using MIM at IPL time. It appears we convert the Reserves to a Global Enqueue correctly for Qname IGDCDSXS. All appears

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

>>UNIX was a pun on MULTICS. > >Pun or derivative? According to Ritchie, pun. . -teD Marching to the beat of a different flute -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: OT - J B Hunt

In a message dated 6/22/2006 2:32:30 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Definitely a forward. Also, I believe, a subsidiary of Wally Mart... still no reply. >> Got a hot one from Bentonville. JBHunt not a subsidiary of Wally Mart, competes for resources at IT level.

z/OS 1.7 JES2 Checkpoint Reserves?

Hi Folks: I have a z/OS 1.6 LPAR and a z/OS 1.7 LPAR. Both are running as MONOPLEXes without shared JES2 spool. SHARED=NOCHECK is specified for both on MASDEF. A 30 minute Enqueue Monitor capture on the 1.6 system shows numerous JES2 checkpoint reserves issued, as one would expect. A similar ca

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/22/2006 at 02:31 PM, "Liliane L. Clever" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Very well said indeed. And by the way, I dare any of the >so-called-real american sysprogs on this list to say in french, or >any other language besides english, what Bruno said so eloquently.

Re: Help: User.parmlib inadvertently renamed

In a message dated 6/23/2006 9:33:38 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As a last resort you can IPL the Standalone utility ZZSA and edit what you need to. >> Does it work on Z9's? -- For IBM-MAIN sub

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/22/2006 at 12:58 PM, Skip Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >If somebody could just fix the d*mn spelling. ;-) They have, repeatedly and independently :-( -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/22/2006 at 12:21 PM, Bruno Sugliani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >We french people ( some other foreigners as well) are often using a >strange grammar Most languages are strange to people who didn't grow up in them. Personally, I find it strange that a word in German

Re: Conoles

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/22/2006 at 12:59 PM, Mark Steely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >We are z/OS V1R4 and currently configuring V1R7. What is a SMCS. I am >sure it is a console, but what is the difference between a MCS and a >SMCS? SNA MCS is via VTAM. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

Re: Changing terminology ..

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 06/23/2006 at 08:47 AM, Shane Ginnane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >We *all* know what computers are don't we. Used to be flesh and bone Napier's -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: SSL/TLS Woes FTP

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John P Kalinich > > I use the following statement when FTP'ing dumps to CA. > > locsite fwf OK, I have FWFRIENDLY TRUE in the FTP.DATA file used by my client. Still doesn't complete the SSL handshake. -jc- ---

Re: Help: User.parmlib inadvertently renamed

As a last resort you can IPL the Standalone utility ZZSA and edit what you need to. http://www.cbttape.org/~jjaeger/zzsa.html http://www.cbttape.org/~jjaeger Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO Performance and Availability Management mailt

Re: Help: User.parmlib inadvertently renamed

In a message dated 6/23/2006 9:08:57 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Any idea how I could fix this ? >> If USS is up the FTP method is easiest. Otherwise you can use your Rescue system to fix the problems. Lacking that get to do Restores back to a working level. --

Re: Help: User.parmlib inadvertently renamed

Can you restore them using standalone dfdss? If not, take a look at SAE (Stand Alone Edit) it is perfect for this type of problem. It let's you edit files on systems that are not IPLable. It costs a few shekels, but it could save your behindin this situation. Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (8

Re: SSL/TLS Woes FTP

On 23/06/06, Chase, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Dave Jones > > John, try running your FTP client in passive mode. Everything I see in the doc referring to "passive mode" is in context of servers, not clients.

Re: Listing datasets in DFDSS volume dump

Execute a DFDSS RESTORE with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' and it will simulate the operation, listing every data set it processes. -Original Message- From: Andy Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 2:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Listing datasets in DFDSS volum

Fetching COBOL from C gives U4091

If you are using an (unsupported) pre-Enterprise COBOL compiler, then I think the answer is pretty simple (and relatively well documented). See (for example), http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr/BOOKS/igypg205/3.4 "You cannot run your COBOL program in more than one thread. If you sta

Re: Help: User.parmlib inadvertently renamed

The last time I did something similar, I was able to FTP into the system (since only VTAM was broken), GET the parmlib member, update it on a PC/Sun (don't remember which), PUT it back into parmlib, and then IPL successfully. -Original Message- From: Yves Lederrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: SSL/TLS Woes FTP

I use the following statement when FTP'ing dumps to CA. locsite fwf Regards, John Kalinich Computer Sciences Corp "Chase, John" <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 00:00:00 GMT, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>MULTICS came out around 1965, which then became UNICS, then UNIX. > >UNIX was independent of MULTIX, developed by Bell Labs (Ritchie & others). Ken Thompson is credited with writing UNIX and B. It was originally called UN

Help: User.parmlib inadvertently renamed

Sorry to disturb you! I've inadvertently moved the User.datasets to another disk (where they are know as User1.Datasets. But I've forgotten to change the Parmlib assignment in the sys1.parmlib dataset Consequence: I can no longer IPL: I receive a message saying that User.parmlib was not found

Mobius View Direct Infopac Storage Creep/Leak

Anyone out there running Mobius View Direct notice an unusually large working set size? We used to bounce the ViewDirect task each day but stopped a couple of weeks back. Now I notice a gradual increase in the working set between bounces. We will start out around 150M but by the end of the week w

Re: Patent #6886160

In a message dated 6/23/2006 1:24:52 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: don't think we need to revert to King's or Pope's patronage! >> I actually got this for a gift several years back. I thought it was an OK read for a dreary day. _http://www.papiermache.co.uk/ex

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

Surely you are joking! The DEC PDP-1 was a transistor machine. The IBM 7xx and 6xx series were vacuum tube machines (plus other oddities like drums). NCR and Burroughs and of course Univac also had vt machines in the 50's. The 4xx series could be used as calculators. Richard Feynmann says i

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 00:00:00 GMT, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>How short memories are. Just a few decades. And UNIX is older than MVS, BTW. > >I don't believe that! >Cite something. >MVS was out in 1974. >UNIX was out in '76. > >'Course! Could be wrong! Yep. From the site that you

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

Hunkeler Peter , KIUB 34 wrote: Depends on what "release" and corresponding name you talk about. If you go the the roots, both OSs were born in the mid 60s: OS/360 came out in 1964. MULTICS came out around 1965, which then became UNICS, then UNIX. multics started about then. lots of early 545

Re: SSL/TLS Woes FTP

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Dave Jones > > John, try running your FTP client in passive mode. Everything I see in the doc referring to "passive mode" is in context of servers, not clients. How do I "run the FTP client in passive mode"?

Re: SSL/TLS Woes FTP

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Pinion) wrote: > I think (I'm network impaired) he put in some sort of a firewall rule that > allowed the response from that particular host to come back over a different > port than 21. A . this is ringing a bell now. F

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 09:15:21 +0100, Van Dalsen, Herbie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >To me unix looks and feels very much like DEC/VAX, and DEC surely >precedes IBM ! Oh, really I think not. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signof

Re: SSL/TLS Woes FTP

John, try running your FTP client in passive mode. DJ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.u

Re: POR needed?

As always you all were correct! We finally did not stop giving service, but we missed changing the policy so the IPL in the new machine took a bit longer than needed! When any of you is changing your box, at the time of changing CFRM policy, double-check plant-id field 2006/6/16, Bruce Hews

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

Good point. But it's a two way street. When talking "servers" with non-mainframers, I avoid terms like task, dataset, abend, etc. When in Rome, ... From: Edward Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mainframe Limericks... Dat

Re: Availability of OS/VS RPG II 5740-RG1

>Hello: > >I'm trying to assess the availability of the OS/VS RPG II product >(5740-RG1). I know at least two z/OS sites that use it, so it's still >out there, but I was unable to locate the availability info on IBM.COM. >Can someone point me to the relevant documents? Thanks. > > Gilbert Saint-Fl

Re: Mainframe Limericks...

English now belongs to everybody and is all the better for universal ownership. There's no doubt that English has been enriched through global ownership. However, not only spelling differences but also ambiguity is a pain in the fanny. q.v. http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/fanny From: Skip Rob

Beware OA16743 (JES3)

We are a JES3 customer and attempted to install z/OS R7. We got hit with OA16743 (WAIT IN ALLOCATION MODULE IEFAB4FA DURING RECOVERY ALLOCATION IN A JES3 ENVIRONMENT). Our symptoms don't match exactly what is written in the APAR, but the bottom line is that any time there are multiple work f

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