Re: Longer TAPE IO Elapse time as DCB RECFM=VB

2006-09-04 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 12:50:54 +0800 Laurence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Listers, :When the doing with TAPE backup operation, the tape backup job elapse time is much longer if the DCB RECFM=VB. :What is the reason for that ? You are going to have to give a lot more information. What program is

Re: 27x132?

2006-09-04 Thread Chris Mason
Shmuel From the last set of exchanges, I was wondering whether or not the understanding of the word configure in the context of setting presentation space dimensions was causing confusion. My terminology would be to use the word set - in the BIND request, originating, in general, from the PSERVIC

Re: 27x132?

2006-09-04 Thread Chris Mason
Shmuel Thanks for bringing up the 2265/2845, I was going to say I'd forgotten about this but, because I checked the NCP/EP Reference manual - which I just did again, I can't have missed it, nestling against any reference to the 2260. On review, I also discovered hat I hadn't forgotten about it -

Re: 27x132?

2006-09-04 Thread Chris Mason
Shmuel ... at least I think that's what you are claiming. This is interesting since using such devices - if anyone still has them - or, I would expect, later generations of 3270 displays which had a fancy name I can't remember - was it something weird like InfoTerminal or InfoSystem? - it

Re: 27x132?

2006-09-04 Thread Chris Mason
Shmuel Well, I had difficulty finding how best to describe the non-SNA channel-attached mode of 3270 connection. It actually doesn't seem correct always to be calling it non-SNA when it predates SNA. The IBM documentation uses the term local non-SNA. Just because it's IBM documentation it

Re: 27x132?

2006-09-04 Thread Chris Mason
Pat There's a hint in one of the web pages I found - trying to colour the 2260 - that the 2250 came first - for the engineers - and the 2260 was a later development - for business - based on some aspects of 2250 technology. I tried to find the web page where I think I found this hint and I think

Re: 27x132?

2006-09-04 Thread Chris Mason
Alan, The original 3271 controller was BSC[1] and the 3272 was the channel-attached controller. As Shmuel Metz mentions below - and who can gainsay him on points of this nature? - they emerged together - which is what I would have said if asked out the blue. This is supported in a round-about

Re: 27x132?

2006-09-04 Thread Chris Mason
Pat I think what you are talking about may actually have been implemented for some odd devices. It reminds me of some robust device I used to have to talk about which I believe used 3270 data streams for use in challenging environments - and for challenged operators: the keyboard was a set of

Re: APAR OA16111, BlueZone, and Vista (Was: 27x132?)

2006-09-04 Thread Chris Mason
Shmuel I saw Edward's response to your post and thought the response below I had prepared may reveal a prejudiced misunderstanding but then I saw your response and I realised I was mistaken. Let's see how an alternative version of your post could have contributed to understanding rather than

Autoskip bit in logon panels (Was APAR OA16111, BlueZone, and Vista (Was: 27x132?))

2006-09-04 Thread Chris Mason
Edward There is (still I guess) an aspect of the VM logon panel, copied in the NetView logon panel[1], which, to my mind indicated a lack of understanding of human factors in the implementation of the 3270 data stream and its effect on the operator experience. When deciding whether or not to use

Re: measure cpu totals

2006-09-04 Thread Chris Mason
Joel, Assuming the person is from within your organisation[1], you can congratulate him/her on attempting to fulfill your assumed mission statement. g I'm by no means a experienced with this topic, but, in the replies you have had, I can see the request is for How long is a piece of string?

Re: IBM announces Encrypting tape drives

2006-09-04 Thread R.S.
Joel C. Ewing wrote: Tom Marchant wrote: On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 22:23:19 -0500, Russell Witt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those that never went to virtual-devices, it's a good way to encrypt data. But since IBM, STK, EMC and CA have all been pushing the advantages of virtual-tape (and

Re: measure cpu totals

2006-09-04 Thread Shane
On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 14:03 -0500, Joel Ivey wrote: We have a request to report on how many mips are consumed by a certain application. We should be able to count total cpu seconds for a particular application, but is it even possible to convert that into mips?Or how about MSUs? How

ftp time problem

2006-09-04 Thread Marcin Wąsik
Hello, We have a problem with ftp time on our z/os system. We tried to solve it using ENVAR TZ parm in ftp procedure but it didn't change anything. I will be gratefull if someone tell me how to change it. Regards Marcin Wasik Lodz, Poland

what's the difference between LF(Line Fee) and NL (New line) ?

2006-09-04 Thread Tsai Laurence
hello listers, I am confused that the difference between LF NL ? It seems both will get the printer prints the document on next line . Can anybody advise me ? Sincerely, Laurence -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: ftp time problem

2006-09-04 Thread Charles Mills
What is the problem? Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marcin W¹sik Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:46 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: ftp time problem Hello, We have a problem with ftp time on our z/os

Re: what's the difference between LF(Line Fee) and NL (New line) ?

2006-09-04 Thread Per Lofgren
Hello Laurence LF (Line Feed) only advances the old typewriter one row and works in conjunction with CR (Carriage Return) to return to (print)column 1 Per -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tsai Laurence Sent: den 4 september

RRS start order

2006-09-04 Thread R.S.
What should I start first during IPL: RRS started task or rather Resource Managers (DB2, CICS, MQ, etc.) ? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to

Re: what's the difference between LF(Line Fee) and NL (New line) ?

2006-09-04 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tsai Laurence) writes: I am confused that the difference between LF NL ? It seems both will get the printer prints the document on next line . Can anybody advise

Re: RRS start order

2006-09-04 Thread Franz Josef Pohlen
I start always RRS first. Franz Josef Original-Nachricht Datum: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:55:27 +0200 Von: R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Betreff: [IBM-MAIN] RRS start order What should I start first during IPL: RRS started task or rather Resource Managers (DB2,

Terminal Status Block(TSB) - where to find its description

2006-09-04 Thread Johnny Luo
Hi, I'm writing an assembler program to list all active TSO user-ids in system just as an exercise. I've followed the control block chain to the TSB. Now I need to extract the user-id from it but strangely I cannot find the description about TSB in MVS Data Areas manuals. I searched many places

Re: Autoskip bit in logon panels (Was APAR OA16111, BlueZone,

2006-09-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Chris Mason said: Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 11:50:21 +0200 If the input data is guaranteed to fill the field, then the use of the autoskip bit is appropriate. Ideally such a field will be part of a sequence of such fields so that reaching for the tab key will not be

Re: what's the difference between LF(Line Fee) and NL (New line) ?

2006-09-04 Thread Chris Mason
Laurence In very strict terms the difference between the action of a Line Feed (LF) character and a New Line (NL) character is that the action of a Carriage Return (CR) is missing in the case of an LF character and present in the case of the NL character. You got the answer from the other two

Re: Terminal Status Block(TSB) - where to find its description

2006-09-04 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 22:51:32 +0800 Johnny Luo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Hi, :I'm writing an assembler program to list all active TSO user-ids in system :just as :an exercise. :I've followed the control block chain to the TSB. Now I need to extract the :user-id :from it but strangely I cannot find

Re: Autoskip bit in logon panels (Was APAR OA16111, BlueZone, and Vista (Was: 27x132?))

2006-09-04 Thread Edward Jaffe
Chris Mason wrote: If the input data is guaranteed to fill the field, then the use of the autoskip bit is appropriate. Ideally such a field will be part of a sequence of such fields so that reaching for the tab key will not be necessary within the whole sequence. I agree with the above. My

Re: IBM announces Encrypting tape drives

2006-09-04 Thread Joel C. Ewing
R.S. wrote: Joel C. Ewing wrote: Tom Marchant wrote: On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 22:23:19 -0500, Russell Witt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For those that never went to virtual-devices, it's a good way to encrypt data. But since IBM, STK, EMC and CA have all been pushing the advantages of

Re: RRS start order

2006-09-04 Thread Knutson, Sam
We start RRS at IPL from PARMLIB COMMNDxx well before any the subsystems that exploit it is started by automation. OPSMVS is also started from COMMNDxx and then it brings up all those subsystems once it has started JES2. You have to start JES2 after OPSMVS in order to exploit the function IBM

Re: what's the difference between LF(Line Fee) and NL (New line) ?

2006-09-04 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 17:03:58 +0200, Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, I've just spotted something odd which may be the reason for your post. In the SNA Formats manual, GA27-3136-20[2], in Appendix A, SNA Character Sets and Symbol-String Types, which you'd expect to be the model of

Re: APAR OA16111, BlueZone, and Vista (Was: 27x132?)

2006-09-04 Thread Bob Rutledge
I don't have anything to test it on at the moment, but QWS3270 PLUS (Jolly Giant Software) allows both primary and alternate to be specified for the IBM-DYNAMIC terminal type. Bob Edward Jaffe wrote: ... BlueZone and Vista are the only emulators so far (that I know of -- someone correct me

Re: Help with TSSO Install

2006-09-04 Thread Hal Merritt
Thanks all! I dug around and found the answer in TSSORASH (sp?). One, this program was not in the 'all assembly' list which drew my attention in the first place. There I found a RACF check for a facility. I don't recall seeing that in the instructions anywhere. Anyway, I added the FACILITY and

Re: ftp time problem

2006-09-04 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 14:46:20 +0200, Marcin W#261;sik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have a problem with ftp time on our z/os system. We tried to solve it using ENVAR TZ parm in ftp procedure but it didn't change anything. I will be gratefull if someone tell me how to change it.

QWS3270 (Was: APAR OA16111, BlueZone, and Vista)

2006-09-04 Thread Edward Jaffe
Bob Rutledge wrote: I don't have anything to test it on at the moment, but QWS3270 PLUS (Jolly Giant Software) allows both primary and alternate to be specified for the IBM-DYNAMIC terminal type. Good to know. I'll add that to my list. This wasn't there once upon a time and/or I couldn't

Re: QWS3270 (Was: APAR OA16111, BlueZone, and Vista)

2006-09-04 Thread Bob Rutledge
As far as I know, PLUS serves only as a distinction from SECURE in the product name. Bob Edward Jaffe wrote: Bob Rutledge wrote: I don't have anything to test it on at the moment, but QWS3270 PLUS (Jolly Giant Software) allows both primary and alternate to be specified for the IBM-DYNAMIC

Re: QWS3270 (Was: APAR OA16111, BlueZone, and Vista)

2006-09-04 Thread Edward Jaffe
Bob Rutledge wrote: As far as I know, PLUS serves only as a distinction from SECURE in the product name. OK. So PLUS is the standard product. SECURE adds the SSL/TLS encryption. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045

Re: Offload wishlist (was: encryp ...)

2006-09-04 Thread Craddock, Chris
In response to; I would like to see a pOOP (Performance monitoring Offload Optimizer) for running RMF, OMEGAMON, etc. That would save a TON of CPU cycles. The performance monitoring suite seems to take more cycles than all of the applications they are monitoring. Shane asks Is this

Re: Timemark

2006-09-04 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
David Lesser wrote: John, You wrote : Unless I am really way of, TIMEMARK is specified in seconds and 999,999 is about 277 hours, or 11.5 days. Why do you expect somthing to happen in 3 hours? I know that 99 is a large value. I don't expect something to happen in 3 hours. I want

Re: what's the difference between LF(Line Fee) and NL (New line) ?

2006-09-04 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In half-duplex, where, unlike on a 2741, you can't lock the terminal, if the user wants to type a character while the carriage is

Re: IPL intervals

2006-09-04 Thread Chris Mason
Since the discussion has turned to experience with automation, perhaps I can throw in a bit of mine. When running networking hands-on classes, I needed automation to start systems up and then switch to different student environments as one group finished their time and another started. With

Re: IPL intervals

2006-09-04 Thread james smith
Oh we had the CE request we power down one of our two stand alone CF processors. All of the appropriate structures etc. were moved, using documented procedures, from CFA to CFB. Unfortunately at power off time CFB was selected, on the HMC, rather than CFA - this was all done by the sysprog -