Re: ISR only with SW contract

2007-05-15 Thread Walter Marguccio
- Original Message From: Kurt Quackenbush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Therefore, to use SMP/E Internet Service Retrieval you do not need to > have a SW Support contract. > If anyone experiences something different, or is told something > different, please let me know, with details such as cu

Re: VTOC FULL

2007-05-15 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 15:21 -0400 on 05/15/2007, Lizette Koehler wrote about Re: VTOC FULL: I am not aware of a vendor product that could do that on the fly. However, if they could it would rely on the tracks next to the vtoc being empty (ie. no data sets on them.) I have an impression that there is a utility o

Re: Data Areas Manuals to be dropped

2007-05-15 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 07:16 -0400 on 05/15/2007, Peter Relson wrote about Re: Data Areas Manuals to be dropped: "The strategic direction is to remove the data area books (JES2 and JES3 data areas have already been deleted), and the data areas will be generated automatically from the code." IOW: Assemble and Pri

Re: Another "migration" from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Chris Mason
Gary It's been in the news lately that London is increasingly taking financial business from New York. Perhaps it's just as well. Chris Mason - Original Message - From: "Gary Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 4:23 PM Subjec

Re: How to reload SSL certificate for z/OS TN3270 server

2007-05-15 Thread Chris Mason
Tom The encouragement today is to split the "internal client", namely the TN3270 server function, from the main CS IP address space and run it in its own address space. Thus "recycling" the TN3270 server is not necessarily going to involve "recycling" the whole of CS IP. Perhaps the need somet

Re: remote printing from z/OS Spool over the WAN network

2007-05-15 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
Laurence wrote: > Hi, > To print reports from z/OS spool through remote LAN printer or PSF printer > over the TCPIP WAN network. I have 2 alternatives : > 1) using the z/OS Infoprint server ,with transform mgr > 2)THE PSF/390 connecting through the remote Infoprint mgr. > > How can the repor

Re: syhchronize tape gdgS

2007-05-15 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
I am a little fuzzy on what you think is going to be in synch. All tapes should be the same generation number, which increments each time you do a backup? It should always be the same generation number? In synch with a catalog? In synch with your recovery JCL? Making every backup be on the same

Re: Catalog and APF

2007-05-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 05/14/2007 at 11:51 AM, Daniel McLaughlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >2. Using VOL(XX) parameter in APF and LNKLST members Fixed or referring to static system symbols? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Another "migration" from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 05/15/2007 at 01:30 PM, Howard Brazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >This works as long as we need at least as much heat as being produced >- to reduce some of the energy waste from the computers. It also works if we need less. >But we can't turn off the computer when

Re: MIDAW and EMC

2007-05-15 Thread Tom Moulder
Here is a link to a paper from Pat Artis that documents performance differences using the PAI/O Driver. http://www.perfassoc.com/publishedpapers.html The one you asked about is the third paper listed on the page. You may also have interest in the other papers that are listed on this page. Pat A

Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS

2007-05-15 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
>On Tue, 15 May 2007 09:03:56 -0500, Paul Gilmartin ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Why does RACF not support rules restricting the set of users who may ENQ >on protected data set names? > >-- gil > RACF will support you creating a new CLASS and defining whatever resource you want. As another pos

Re: MIDAW and EMC

2007-05-15 Thread Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
EMC support MIDAW but this is what happen to us and it seems we're not the only one and detecting the MIDAW feature was easy because I add some code to support this in SHOWzOS times ago. It took us some times to find a guy at EMC who understand what we're talking about :-((( and turn it on!!!

remote printing from z/OS Spool over the WAN network

2007-05-15 Thread Laurence
Hi, To print reports from z/OS spool through remote LAN printer or PSF printer over the TCPIP WAN network. I have 2 alternatives : 1) using the z/OS Infoprint server ,with transform mgr 2)THE PSF/390 connecting through the remote Infoprint mgr. How can the report be printed without interrupe

Re: Data Areas Manuals to be dropped

2007-05-15 Thread Ed Gould
On May 15, 2007, at 9:30 AM, Ed Finnell wrote: In a message dated 5/15/2007 8:59:14 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did they ever sell similar T-shirts at any SHARE conferences? What year and city.if anyone remembers? Ed, I seem to remember in the 1988 or 1989 ts

Re: Another "migration" from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Ed Gould
Gary: About 15 years ago I was ahead of a project to move off OEM to an NJE connection with them. I stepped them through the JES2 changes needed for the connection to happen. Saying that, I am surprised it hasn't happened sooner. The people I had exposure to then (and afterwards) was to s

Re: DSS EXCP counts

2007-05-15 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
The process runs every week. Rather than try to remember if something has been updated, it's easier to run the entire sequence. -Original Message- From: Tom Moulder [mailto:tom_snip] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 1:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: DSS EXCP counts Barry I just

Re: Another "migration" from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 11:25 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Another "migration" from the mainframe > > > - > > >

Re: Virtual tape limits (Was: OEM software electronic download report card)

2007-05-15 Thread Ron Hawkins
Shane, Wintel solution? Who mentioned a Wintel solution? The software runs on Mainframe. The virtualization of SATA is handled by a USP. How much more robust can the HW and SW be? I've seen some pretty crummy CPU usage from DFHSM in TMM environments. Part of that is because DFHSM and DSS do not

Re: DSS EXCP counts

2007-05-15 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 15 May 2007 15:57:37 -0500, Tom Moulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Barry > >I just got my interest piqued a little by your question. So, here is what >got my interest -- why would you take full volume dumps if they haven't >changed in months/years? > I'm sure he can answer for himself..

Re: DSS EXCP counts

2007-05-15 Thread Tom Moulder
Barry I just got my interest piqued a little by your question. So, here is what got my interest -- why would you take full volume dumps if they haven't changed in months/years? Tom Moulder -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sch

Re: DSS EXCP counts

2007-05-15 Thread Hal Merritt
I believe a modern translation of the acronym is "Estimated eXecutions of the things that replaced Channel Programs". :-) Seriously, I'd say you are seeing evidence of some aggressive I/O avoidance. That is, you are getting the same (or more) data in fewer operations. -Original Message

Re: Another 'migration' from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Tue, 15 May 2007 16:04:50 -0400, Arthur T. wrote: > I recently tried twice to get information about a >government agency's privacy provisions and was ignored. On >my third try, I suggested that local newspapers might be >able to get the information for me, but would also likely >be intere

Re: IBM loses employee data

2007-05-15 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 5/15/2007 3:30:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://www.snopes.com/critters/farce/wildcat.asp >> Not being eyewitness, don't know. Two reputable sources...at the time. Earlier than '74. ** See what's free

Re: IBM loses employee data

2007-05-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 15 May 2007 16:19:15 EDT, Ed Finnell wrote: > >Guess the burglars hit different areas. Well, one physics professor who >hunted went down to the swamps and managed to trap a good sized bobcat. He >waited > http://www.snopes.com/critters/farce/wildcat.asp -- gil --

Re: Data Areas Manuals to be dropped

2007-05-15 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 5/15/2007 2:41:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: unchanged. To improve the accuracy of the documentation, processes are being enhanced to automatically create the information when a mapping is changed. >> Will there be dual pathing for DOC APARS

Re: IBM loses employee data

2007-05-15 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 15 May 2007 21:46:55 +0200, R.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From the other hand easier >method to get data, instead of stealing the tapes, decoding, etc. is >simply PAY someone inside. Everybody is very honest untils his price >. Another option is blackmail. > Hmmm... if I didn't know b

Re: IBM loses employee data

2007-05-15 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 5/15/2007 2:47:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: that's what is discussed from time to time. Even stolen suitcase is usually stolen without awareness what's inside. However tape lost *can be* - although very unlikely - planned attack on >> Gues

Re: Another 'migration' from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Arthur T.
On 15 May 2007 11:06:55 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thompson, Steve) wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Kopischke Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 12:53 PM To: IBM-M

Re: IBM loses employee data

2007-05-15 Thread R.S.
Hal Merritt wrote: FUD from PC auditors and software/hardware sales folks. Such mainframe files are encoded. Every file is in a unique, propriety, unpublished format. Decoding is near impossible without an intimate knowledge of and access to record layout documentation. Even then, intima

Re: VTOC FULL

2007-05-15 Thread Robert Pelletier
Thanks. H Do I run the allocate after expanding the VTOC? >> Yes! Usually the INDEXed VTOC is next to the OSVTOC and it was the one suffering the damage. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,

Re: REXX Question

2007-05-15 Thread Varun Manocha
Yes, that worked. Thanks! It was driving me crazy... This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, p

LOADxx PARMLIB statement, can dsname include &SYSR1 symbol?

2007-05-15 Thread Jakubek, Jan
Hi, In my PARMLIB concatenation I'd like to include a dsname that would have a qualifier equal to/ specified via &SYSR1 symbol, like: PARMLIB MYDSN1.PARMLIB.&SYSR1 Is this supported? I'm reading the "MVS Init & Tuning Reference" and it does not seem to be clear. In one place it says: "Note: &S

Re: Data Areas Manuals to be dropped

2007-05-15 Thread Scott Fagen
The IBM and z/OS strategy for disseminating programming information is undergoing a significant amount of change. Part of this change will be the withdrawal of the Data Areas publications in favor of web delivery of the detailed data areas information based off of the z/OS Library Center website.

Re: REXX Question

2007-05-15 Thread Taylor, Clarence B
try X = Format(used.i,,0) I believe it is trying to execute the results of your format statement Brad Taylor Senior Software Engineer Workload Automation 713 625 9490 (ext 19490) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Varun Mano

Re: VTOC FULL

2007-05-15 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 5/15/2007 2:35:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do I run the allocate after expanding the VTOC? >> Yes! Usually the INDEXed VTOC is next to the OSVTOC and it was the one suffering the damage. ** See what'

Re: VTOC FULL

2007-05-15 Thread Robert Pelletier
Do I run the allocate after expanding the VTOC? Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Ct. In a message dated 5/15/2007 2:20:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks all. Have to mount it PRIVATE and should be ok. Thanks again

Re: VTOC FULL

2007-05-15 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 5/15/2007 2:20:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks all. Have to mount it PRIVATE and should be ok. Thanks again. >> There were a few blurps at that level of DSF where it would do it the expand without calculating the space correctly overl

Re: Another "migration" from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Howard Brazee
On 15 May 2007 10:12:54 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Shannon) wrote: >> The idea of exchanging server heat for building heat is interesting >>though. > >We did this at Aetna twenty five years ago. The heating system didn't >come on until the outside temperature reached 32 F. Until then all the >h

REXX Question

2007-05-15 Thread Varun Manocha
I am working on a rexx exec, in which I am using the REXX built-in function FORMAT to roundoff a numeric variable to required number of digits after the decimal. However, when I execute the REXX I get RC(-3), everytime the REXX executes the FORMAT function. 1) I havent been able to supress the

Re: Another "migration" from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Bill Wilkie
I was ajust about to say, I had seen the computer room heat used to heat the building, but I couldn't remember the site. Thanks Bill From: Bob Shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Another "migration" from the mainframe Date

Re: VTOC FULL

2007-05-15 Thread Lizette Koehler
Bob, I think your answer is to offload all datasets to tape, clip/init the pack with a bigger VTOC and then reload everything back down. If it is SMS managed, then you would QUINEW the pack, allow it to drain and then do the clip/init and put it back in the storage group. Or make a new volume

Re: VTOC FULL

2007-05-15 Thread Robert Pelletier
Thanks all. Have to mount it PRIVATE and should be ok. Thanks again. Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Ct. -Original Message- From: Mark Jacobs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 2:58 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject:

Re: RMM web service & web server(s)

2007-05-15 Thread Steve Comstock
R.S. wrote: I just read RMM I&C Guide. It says: "go to the administrative console of your z/OS WebSphere Application Server". Q: Does it require WAS *or* HTTP Server ? Background is quite obvious IMHO: HTTP is no-cost feature of the system, while WAS is fee based. Ahhh, yes. This is why I

Re: ISR only with SW contract

2007-05-15 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
This is exactly the point. I've been told that if a customer does not have a SW support contract, he won't be able get a ShopzSeries id anymore; no id, no PTFs via ISR. Weird. (No ServerPac either. Very weird.) This all sounds very fishy, but I'll see what I can find out and report back to th

Re: IBM loses employee data

2007-05-15 Thread Hal Merritt
FUD from PC auditors and software/hardware sales folks. Such mainframe files are encoded. Every file is in a unique, propriety, unpublished format. Decoding is near impossible without an intimate knowledge of and access to record layout documentation. Even then, intimate knowledge of exactl

RMM web service & web server(s)

2007-05-15 Thread R.S.
I just read RMM I&C Guide. It says: "go to the administrative console of your z/OS WebSphere Application Server". Q: Does it require WAS *or* HTTP Server ? Background is quite obvious IMHO: HTTP is no-cost feature of the system, while WAS is fee based. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland --

Re: VTOC FULL

2007-05-15 Thread Mark Jacobs
Robert Pelletier wrote: Hi All. We are V2R10. Can I dynamically rebuild a VTOC on a 3390? If so what utility would work? Thanks all. Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Ct. --

Re: Another 'migration' from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Thompson, Steve > > [ snip ] > > [Side note: my wife retired from a certain Electric Utility. > She has a full Masters (not just an MBA, but she has one of > those too). She has commented to me many times about how

Re: PUTTING DISK OFFLINE - JES3 ENVIRONMENT

2007-05-15 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Tue, 15 May 2007 10:08:39 -0500, Binyamin Dissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Am I the only one frightened by these statements? > No you're not ! Bruno Bruno(dot)sugliani(at)groupemornay(dot)asso(dot)fr -- For IBM-MAIN subscri

VTOC FULL

2007-05-15 Thread Robert Pelletier
Hi All. We are V2R10. Can I dynamically rebuild a VTOC on a 3390? If so what utility would work? Thanks all. Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Ct. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / sig

Re: DB2 version 8 SPUFI and ISPF

2007-05-15 Thread Fletcher, Kevin
Jim, The PTF you describe (putting out message DSNE345I) was a part of DB2 V7, this was an enforcement PTF, eg. The exposure was always there now DB2 is telling you. We had a similar problem using CCSID 1140 (US plus euro). If you cruise IBM link or DB2-L looking for DSNE345I you will find a diff

Re: Another 'migration' from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Howard Brazee
On 15 May 2007 11:06:55 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thompson, Steve) wrote: >[Side note: my wife retired from a certain Electric Utility. She has a >full Masters (not just an MBA, but she has one of those too). She has >commented to me many times about how the "fast trackers" in a company >have abou

Re: Another "migration" from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Tue, 15 May 2007 13:12:44 -0400, Bob Shannon wrote: >> The idea of exchanging server heat for building heat is interesting >>though. > >We did this at Aetna twenty five years ago. The heating system didn't >come on until the outside temperature reached 32 F. Until then all the >heat for the dat

Re: Another 'migration' from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Kopischke Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 12:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Another 'migration' from the mainframe On Tue, 15 May 2007 13:34:12 -0400, Gary Green wrote: >Do you real

Re: Another "migration" from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#18 Another "migration" from the mainframe http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#19 Another "migration" from the mainframe http://www.garlic.com

Re: Another 'migration' from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Tue, 15 May 2007 13:34:12 -0400, Gary Green wrote: >Do you really think we will get the real story/facts about the savings? > No, but if you don't ask, you can't complain about the FUD they're generating with a story like this, can you I've already sent follow up requests on 3 or 4 of t

Re: Another "migration" from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Mohammad Khan
The vendor handling migration seems to be the new owner of UniKix which used to be owned by Sun a little while ago. Sun wasn't able to do much with this product, let's see how much success Clerity will have with it. Mohammad --

Re: Another 'migration' from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Gary Green
Do you really think we will get the real story/facts about the savings? On Tue May 15 12:31 , Dave Kopischke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: >On Tue, 15 May 2007 10:23:17 -0400, Gary Green wrote: > >>SIAC is migrating 1600 MIPS from the mainframe to save money. >> >>http://searchdatacenter.techtarget

Re: Another "migration" from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Tue, 15 May 2007 10:23:17 -0400, Gary Green wrote: >SIAC is migrating 1600 MIPS from the mainframe to save money. > >http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid80_gci1 254860,00.html > I saw a similar story a couple months ago concerning the start of this project. I se

Re: Another "migration" from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Bob Shannon
> The idea of exchanging server heat for building heat is interesting >though. We did this at Aetna twenty five years ago. The heating system didn't come on until the outside temperature reached 32 F. Until then all the heat for the data center came from the processors. Bob Shannon Rocket Softwar

Re: Another "migration" from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Richards.Bob
Chris, I agree with your observations. However, "my" comments were directed specifically at the NYSE/SIAC situation. Did 9/11 not teach them anything? One would hope that the SEC, OCC, etc. have imposed upon them some form of regulatory guidance as it relates to HA and business continuity. If that

Re: PUTTING DISK OFFLINE - JES3 ENVIRONMENT

2007-05-15 Thread willie bunter
I AM NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN. CAN YOU CLARIFY? Binyamin Dissen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am I the only one frightened by these statements? Luckily I don't work there. - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the too

Re: Another "migration" from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#18 Another "migration" from the mainframe http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007k.html#19 Another "migration" from the mainframe as an aside ... all

Re: Another "migration" from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Craddock, Chris
Howard Brazee said > Craddock, Chris wrote: > >On a slightly off-topic note, there is a large body of evidence that > >MOST of the IT budget (75-85%!!) is consumed in just keeping the lights > >on. <<>> > That leaves an opening for an effective way of IBM directing their R&D > money.And of the

Re: Another "migration" from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Bob Shannon
>That leaves an opening for an effective way of IBM directing their R&D >money.And of their marketing.Energy efficiency can be done by >re-using computer room heat, or by not having as much computer room heat. System z9 marketing has focused on energy efficiency for some time. This is not

Re: DB2 version 8 SPUFI and ISPF

2007-05-15 Thread Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
3270 EMU settings Roland -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 4:01 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: DB2 version 8 SPUFI and ISPF As you are no doubt aware there are code page pre-requi

Re: Another "migration" from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Howard Brazee
On 15 May 2007 09:05:08 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craddock, Chris) wrote: >On a slightly off-topic note, there is a large body of evidence that >MOST of the IT budget (75-85%!!) is consumed in just keeping the lights >on. There is almost nothing left over for either new development, or for >exploi

Re: rexx sample

2007-05-15 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- Does anybody out there have a sample in REXX to send a message to console and get a response from operator ,something like WTOR(write to operator with reply) macro in assembly? Any help is highly appretiated. -

Re: Virtual Tape Stacking Software

2007-05-15 Thread Don Bolton
Lizette, VDR (Virtual Data Recovery) is much more then a just a tape stacker. Automating the stacking of VTL data to hi-density tape using a different dataset name prevents any impact on production tape processes. The recovery side of VDR allows you to recover/unstack the stacked datasets to anot

Re: Another "migration" from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Rick Fochtman
- SIAC is migrating 1600 MIPS from the mainframe to save money. http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid80_gci1254860,00.html --- Wait'll they see what it REALLY costs!!! HAR DE HAR HAR!!

Re: How to reload SSL certificate for z/OS TN3270 server

2007-05-15 Thread Thomas Conley
On Tue, 15 May 2007 11:37:49 -0400, Matt Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Our SSL certificate is about to expire, and we have received a renewal >certificate. Does the TN3270 server read the certificate each time a >connection is established, so it will get the new one as soon as it is >update

Re: Multiple Clusters

2007-05-15 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 15 May 2007 10:52:42 -0500, Rick Fochtman wrote: >Since I'm usually maintaining multiple images, I almost always separate >the target zones in separate CSI's from the GLOBAL zone. Separating the >DLIB zones into separate CSI's depends on GLOBAL ZONE CSI space >considerations; if the CSI st

Re: How to reload SSL certificate for z/OS TN3270 server

2007-05-15 Thread Matt Simpson
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Longnecker, Dennis) wrote: > TO load this certificate without recycling. > > 1)Take the port offline: > V TCPIP,tcpip,T,STOP,PORT=23001 > > 2)Now activate it: Thanks. Does this disrupt existing sessions? Or does it just preven

Re: Another "migration" from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Craddock, Chris
Gary Green said > SIAC is migrating 1600 MIPS from the mainframe to save money. > > http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid80_gc > i1254860,00.html And Bob Richards asked > > I wonder if they will reveal the costs of extra hw/sw for > high-availability and business con

Re: Microsoft Claims It All

2007-05-15 Thread Rick Fochtman
I'd rather see M$ get slapped down BIG TIME on this one. How will they ever prove "We had it first" against a system whose hstory predates M$ ??? Thomas Kern wrote: Or management might see that MS really does know the only way to use computers and finally get rid of all of the dinosaurs. Goo

Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS

2007-05-15 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>> Why does RACF not support rules restricting the set of users who may ENQ >> on protected data set names? >It does: via the restriction who can read or update the dataset, ain't it? No. It does not. You can grab a DSN with old or share, without opening it. The read/update is not checked until

Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS

2007-05-15 Thread Clark Morris
On 15 May 2007 07:04:03 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >On Tue, 15 May 2007 07:05:19 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote: >> >>Note: If it is not a TSO user holding the dataset (it is either a batch job >>or STC) then you need to deterimine if the JCL has DISP=OLD and then handle >>it approp

Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS

2007-05-15 Thread Walt Farrell
On 5/15/2007 10:04 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Tue, 15 May 2007 07:05:19 -0400, Lizette Koehler wrote: Note: If it is not a TSO user holding the dataset (it is either a batch job or STC) then you need to deterimine if the JCL has DISP=OLD and then handle it appropriately. Why does RACF not s

Re: rexx sample

2007-05-15 Thread Kurt Gramling
Ali, You can use some code similar to this: /* REXX */ "CONSOLE ACTIVATE" "CONSPROF SOLDISPLAY(NO) SOLNUM(100)" ADDRESS CONSOLE "console command" DISPMSG = '' MCODE = GETMSG('DISPMSG.','SOL',,,10) DO UNTIL DISPMSG.1 = '' SAY DISPMSG.1 DISPMSG.1 = '' MCODE = GETMSG('DISPMSG.','SOL',

Re: Another "migration" from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 5/15/2007 10:33:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: has commented that he doesn't believe any congressman in the last fifty yrs has been capable of middle-school arithmatic. >> Yeah, that's the ticket put 'em on 'Are you smarter than a Fifth grader'

Re: Multiple Clusters

2007-05-15 Thread Rick Fochtman
OK. You present a cogent case for the customer's not installing ISV products into the z/OS CSIs. But if the customer chooses to be so imprudent, there's little the ISV can (or should) do to forestall it. Sprinkle in a few NPREs for selected IBM FMIDs

Re: How to reload SSL certificate for z/OS TN3270 server

2007-05-15 Thread Longnecker, Dennis
Here are my notes to install a new certificate (port 23001 is my SSL port). TO load this certificate without recycling. 1) Take the port offline: V TCPIP,tcpip,T,STOP,PORT=23001 2) Now activate it: v tcpip,tcpip,obeyfile,dsn=SYS1.TCPPARMS($$dennis) v tcpip,tcpip,obeyfile,dsn=SYS

How to reload SSL certificate for z/OS TN3270 server

2007-05-15 Thread Matt Simpson
Our SSL certificate is about to expire, and we have received a renewal certificate. Does the TN3270 server read the certificate each time a connection is established, so it will get the new one as soon as it is updated? Or is the certificate loaded into memory when the server is started, so t

Re: DB2 version 8 SPUFI and ISPF

2007-05-15 Thread Ray Mullins
You may have to look at your terminal emulator as being the culprit. I don't know how ISPF sets ZTERMCID; I assume it's going out and retrieving the information from a TSO or VTAM terminal-related control block. Normally I run IBM PCOMM 5.8 with CP 1140 (37 + Euro), and here's what I get: DSNE34

Re: Another "migration" from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Howard Brazee) writes: > I'd also like to see that with politics, but politician's pay is > power, and that cannot be deferred.But it is more important for a > Pres

Re: Another "migration" from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Howard Brazee
On 15 May 2007 08:02:21 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Jacobs) wrote: >But the lack of these benefits on the cheaper environments usually bites >you in the a** sometime in the future. But by then the people making >these decisions have walked away with their bonuses and leave the >fallout to th

Re: rexx sample

2007-05-15 Thread Paolo Cacciari
Jalili, try with this site: http://www.sscmainframe.com/freeware.htm and download program ALXRWTOR. Then assemble it and make the use you need. Hope this helps. _ Paolo Cacciari Business Continuity and Resiliency Servic

Re: Another "migration" from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Dan Ternosky
I would prefer that Dani get another babysitter. Dan Ternosky Systems Integrator - Mainframe Capacity Planner IBM Global Services - The Hartford Account Office Phone: 330-699-1630 IBM Tieline: 378-9633 Internet Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail messa

Re: syhchronize tape gdgS

2007-05-15 Thread Larry Crilley
This (full volume backup/restore) certainly works for tape GDGs. The issue you are left with, if you do not move all your volumes, are the orphaned entries in the catalog for your other datasets. Generating DELETE NOSCRATCH cards and submitting them to IDCAMS can be a very painfully slow process.

Re: PUTTING DISK OFFLINE - JES3 ENVIRONMENT

2007-05-15 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Am I the only one frightened by these statements? Luckily I don't work there. On Tue, 15 May 2007 05:14:42 -0700 willie bunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :>I don't know how to find that out. All I know is that the environment is a JES3 environemnt. :>Tom Marchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: O

Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS

2007-05-15 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 15 May 2007 09:25:39 -0500, McKown, John wrote: >> > >> Why does RACF not support rules restricting the set of users >> who may ENQ >> on protected data set names? > >Wrong question. The proper question could possibly be: "Why doesn't >ALLOCATION or maybe ENQ issue a RACF query to determine

Re: rexx sample

2007-05-15 Thread Barkow, Eileen
You probably need to run this clist under Netview, not TSO. I have Netview clists that send msgs and get responses, but we also run SA so some of the functions may not work without it. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jalili Sen

Re: Another "migration" from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Mark Jacobs
Richards.Bob wrote: I wonder if they will reveal the costs of extra hw/sw for high-availability and business continuance associated with this migration. Probably not. Bob Richards The intangible benefits of the mainframe environment never seem to be factored into the pricing process. Its

rexx sample

2007-05-15 Thread jalili
Hi all, Does anybody out there have a sample in REXX to send a message to console and get a response from operator ,something like WTOR(write to operator with reply) macro in assembly? Any help is highly appretiated. Regards, Ali

Re: Another "migration" from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richards.Bob) writes: > I wonder if they will reveal the costs of extra hw/sw for > high-availability and business continuance associated with this > migration. Probably

Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS

2007-05-15 Thread R.S.
McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 9:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Release a dataset from a user of MVS On Tue, 15 May 2007 07:05:19 -0400, Lizette K

Re: Another "migration" from the mainframe

2007-05-15 Thread Richards.Bob
I wonder if they will reveal the costs of extra hw/sw for high-availability and business continuance associated with this migration. Probably not. Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Green Sent: Tuesday, May 15,

Re: FTP space error

2007-05-15 Thread Mark Pace
On 5/15/07, McKown, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No, it is not ftp specific. I have used the command below to allow up to 20 volumes of output successfully. QUOTE SITE VCOUNT=20 UCOUNT=20 -- John McKown Thanks, John, and everyone else that replied. UCOUNT was what I needed. -- Mark

Re: FTP space error

2007-05-15 Thread John Kington
Mark, > I'm trying to FTP a really large file from a Linux FTP server to zOS. > I keep ending with a B37-04 end of volume. > > It appears to me that FTP will not go to a secondary volume. It takes > secondary allocations on the one volume and then ends when it fills the > volume. The file would

Re: DB2 version 8 SPUFI and ISPF

2007-05-15 Thread Jim McAlpine
In which case I don't quite understand because the value of &ZTERMCID is 37 but our emulator is using 1146. Any further ideas. Jim McAlpine On 5/15/07, Ray Mullins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Assuming TN3270, the ISPF variable &ZTERMCID is set by the value specified when the TN3270 session is

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