IBM PR: Gartner Confirms Double Digit System z Growth

2007-05-23 Thread Timothy Sipples
Should be up on http://www.ibm.com/press in the near future, but here's the press release copy via Yahoo!: http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/070523/0256902.html Gartner calls it as an even 12% year to year growth for System z in 1Q2007. Again, thank you. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterpris

Re: Cloning DB2 using Flashcopy

2007-05-23 Thread Timothy Sipples
Brian Peterson writes: >I would think that once one understands how large an undertaking cloning a >DB2 environment is, then one could assess the value proposition of utilizing a >tool to assist in the process. As pointed out below, IBM offers a tool, and I >think there are several third party ve

Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- As is my want, I always respond with a terse opinion of spam when it appears to be a "real email address." His response is that some wacko bill in the US defines it as non-spam because it has unsubscribe tagged to the bottom. Seeing as I am

Re: Cloning DB2 using Flashcopy

2007-05-23 Thread Ron Hawkins
Tony, It is certainly something that can be done. For a lot of years now HDS have had software that works with DB2 and Shadowimage now called "Database Replication for IBM zOS" that can do this. There are some customers that have adapted Mainstar products to work with Shadowimage to achieve the s

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Ron Hawkins
As is my want, I always respond with a terse opinion of spam when it appears to be a "real email address." His response is that some wacko bill in the US defines it as non-spam because it has unsubscribe tagged to the bottom. Seeing as I am in Hong Kong, he needs to check the section of this coun

Re: DISP=(MOD,DELETE)

2007-05-23 Thread Chris Mason
Paul I provided my example because your subject title pulled me it, DISP=(MOD,DELETE) being the heart - or so I thought until this thread unravelled - of the "trick" to starting with a new data set in a following job step. Thus the objectives of this technique and what you are after differ. Rega

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Jeffrey D. Smith
I got one today. Found it in my junk email folder, right where it belongs. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 1:19 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: [META] Is Wa

Re: Why is there JOB scope for DSN ENQ's anyway?

2007-05-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 23 May 2007 11:13:46 -0500, Scott Fagen wrote: >On Wed, 23 May 2007 00:00:52 -0400, Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: > >>Since as I noted, the Support is easy to add (as I documented) > ... but I'd say, certainly more than one man-day. The mere administrative burden for any change exceeds that.

Re: DISP=(MOD,DELETE)

2007-05-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 23 May 2007 08:54:01 +0200, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >If you've only just discovered this "trick" - pointed out to me many years >ago by a guru from the Washington Systems Center - perhaps this example can >show you how it may be used: > > //NET PROC >//* >//IEFBR14 EXEC PGM

Re: DISP=(MOD,DELETE)

2007-05-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 24 May 2007 03:15:28 +0200, Chris Mason wrote: > >It was the second DELETE that caught my attention given that Dave had said >his program was IEFBR14. > Well, the operator might decide to cancel it. >>>//SYSUT1 DD DSN=Your.Data.Set.Name, >>>// DISP=(MOD,DELETE,DELETE), >>>.

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 2:19 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership? > > > I just received two e-m

Re: SPAM-LOW: report excps by job step

2007-05-23 Thread Rick Fochtman
Patty Mabie wrote: Does anyone know of a report that will show job stats, and in particular excps by job step? We don't have SAS. I have scoured the CBT files but haven't located one. Any help or advice on sources is appreciated.

Re: RES: ISPF Edit Recovery Recursion

2007-05-23 Thread Lizette Koehler
I used ISRDDN to search SYSPROC for the CLIST. Lizette <-- Snip Were you searching SYSPROC by eyeball or using ISRDDN and the m clistname SYSPROC feature to locate where the clist was found? ---> UnSNip -- For IBM-MAIN subsc

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Don Leahy
I received one too. I spammed him right back by offering *him* the services of my (one-man) consulting firm. :-) - Original Message - From: "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 3:18 PM Subject: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership? I just recei

Re: Non-Standard Mainframe Language?

2007-05-23 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
Chris Mason wrote: But the other language program couldn't have been written in one line of symbols. Reminds me of the one-line Pong look alike written in Basic that was published in PC Magazine around 1982 or so. It took longer to understand than to use. More seriously, it may be that the

Re: DISP=(MOD,DELETE)

2007-05-23 Thread Chris Mason
Pat It was the second DELETE that caught my attention given that Dave had said his program was IEFBR14. Chris Mason - Original Message - From: "Patrick O'Keefe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 10:07 PM Subject: Re: DISP=(MOD,

Re: Cloning DB2 using Flashcopy

2007-05-23 Thread Tony Wiggett
Perhaps I should not have used the word 'CLONE'. Let me go into more detail. We are going through a major implementation of Siebel & Tibco on Open Systems. This will talk to the mainframe and replace some of the CICS functionality. On the day we go live we want to Flashcopy our Production DB2 Subsy

Re: Non-Standard Mainframe Language?

2007-05-23 Thread Chris Mason
Gerhard But the other language program couldn't have been written in one line of symbols. More seriously, it may be that the program was written with the assumption that the processor on which it ran had an APL assist feature and your service bureau machine lacked the feature. Chris Mason

Re: Non-Standard Mainframe Language?

2007-05-23 Thread Chris Mason
Gary Yes, APL should be a proscribed for people with a weakness to addiction. I rashly learned APL in 1973 and got an opportunity to indulge myself a couple of years later. I wrote what would today be a spreadsheet program as a collection of APL functions. The problem was that printing it on a

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Ed Gould
I did and forwarded it to Darren. Ed On May 23, 2007, at 2:18 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: I just received two e-mails from WaveMind with the subject "Need help on your IBM Mainframe project?", one addressed to an address that I use only for IBM-MAIN. Nothing in the message suggests tha

Re: SELTAPE algorithm in z/OS

2007-05-23 Thread Ed Gould
On May 23, 2007, at 1:15 PM, Thomas Conley wrote: I know SELTAPE was internalized eons ago, but I thought it was internalized as NEXT. I'm seeing what looks like RANDOM on z/OS V1R8. Is this a bug or a feature? My concern is that NEXT always seemed to be the best algorithm to spread out

Re: Synchronize Time Between Mainframe and Servers?

2007-05-23 Thread Shane Ginnane
I can't believe this thread is still alive. Everyone (presumably) has an in-house time server for their network - possibly excluding the mainframe. Go connect your mainframe (ETR or STP) to an atomic source and let it stabilize (if you don't have either, you'd better start looking at the latter)

Re: Non-Standard Mainframe Language?

2007-05-23 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gerhard Postpischil) writes: > Back in the seventies I was in charge of the systems group at a > service bureau. One of our customers was from a

Re: DISP=(MOD,DELETE)

2007-05-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 23 May 2007 17:04:34 -0500, Dave Kopischke wrote: > >>Will they permit SPACE=(0,(0,0),,CONTIG,ROUND)? >> That was just poking fun at Peter's plaint about the totalitarian administration. And I didn't even ask whether they also require directories to be allocated in multiples of 45 blocks -

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Bob Rutledge
They're spamming the "postership". This address got the spam but my work address, which is subscribed but almost never posted from, did not. Bob Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: I just received two e-mails from WaveMind with the subject "Need help on your IBM Mainframe project?", one addressed

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Gregory, Gary G
I just received two e-mails from WaveMind with the subject "Need help on your IBM Mainframe project?", one addressed to an address that I use only for IBM-MAIN. Nothing in the message suggests that it is in response to anything specific that I posted. Has anybody else received these? I received on

Re: RES: ISPF Edit Recovery Recursion

2007-05-23 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
Were you searching SYSPROC by eyeball or using ISRDDN and the m clistname SYSPROC feature to locate where the clist was found? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Wed, 23 May 2007 16:18:48 -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >I just received two e-mails from WaveMind with the subject "Need help >on your IBM Mainframe project?", one addressed to an address that I >use only for IBM-MAIN. Nothing in the message suggests that it is in >response to anythin

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 2:19 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership? I just received two e-mails from WaveMin

Re: Is there a way to Remove BOOK from PF6 in SDSF?

2007-05-23 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
I read the OP stating they do not have bookmgr, so while your other answer checking applids and messaging works for some people, a member named bookmgr with return 0 is minimalist. Anything else does make it more user friendly, if they need it. Still too much trouble for me. And I do hit PF6 ev

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Steve Comstock
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: I just received two e-mails from WaveMind with the subject "Need help on your IBM Mainframe project?", one addressed to an address that I use only for IBM-MAIN. Nothing in the message suggests that it is in response to anything specific that I posted. Has anybody e

Re: Converting Librarian to pds

2007-05-23 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
On Wed, 23 May 2007 11:34:54 -0400, Pfeifer, William <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >We want to convert a Librarian file to a pds. I am able to do it but the output file in dd OSJOB defaults to lrecl 80 bytes which I am unable to override. This particular Librarian file holds our compile printouts

UNICODE error

2007-05-23 Thread Mark Yuhas
The following messages were issued during the IPL for UNICODE: IEE252I MEMBER CUNUNIRO FOUND IN RENO.PARMLIB CUN2005I CONVERSION ENVIRONMENT SUCCESSFULLY INITIALIZED CUN3007I REALSTORAGE IS NOW DEFINED AS 1000 PAGES<1000 PAGES> IEE252I MEMBER CUNIMG04 FOUND IN RENO.PARMLIB CUN4026I IMG SER

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Rich Smrcina
I got one earlier today as well. Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: I just received two e-mails from WaveMind with the subject "Need help on your IBM Mainframe project?", one addressed to an address that I use only for IBM-MAIN. Nothing in the message suggests that it is in response to anything spe

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Richard Peurifoy
Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. wrote: I just received two e-mails from WaveMind with the subject "Need help on your IBM Mainframe project?", one addressed to an address that I use only for IBM-MAIN. Nothing in the message suggests that it is in response to anything specific that I posted. Has anybody e

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Peter X. DeFabritus
Yes, a few hours ago, and I immediately unsubscribed. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu

Re: [META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. me too -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the mes

Re: Non-Standard Mainframe Language?

2007-05-23 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
Gary Green wrote: I tried APL once, back in 77. I thought it was the perfect programming language. One could write an entire program on/in one line of code. And, the part I liked best, no one could understand it and it "looked" like a computer programming language. Back in the seventies I wa

Re: Synchronize Time Between Mainframe and Servers?

2007-05-23 Thread Glenn Miller
Steve, >From information I have seen, the expected accuracy of mainframes TOD clock is around .86 seconds per day. The spec on the 9037 ( without ETS ) seems to be much better than that, around .17 seconds per day. It seems that a mainframe that doesn't have a 9037 might see a drift of their T

[META] Is WaveMind spamming entire IBM-MAIN readership?

2007-05-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
I just received two e-mails from WaveMind with the subject "Need help on your IBM Mainframe project?", one addressed to an address that I use only for IBM-MAIN. Nothing in the message suggests that it is in response to anything specific that I posted. Has anybody else received these? -- Shm

Re: DISP=(MOD,DELETE)

2007-05-23 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Wed, 23 May 2007 16:31:31 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> >Will they permit SPACE=(0,(0,0),,CONTIG,ROUND)? > >Will allocating 0 cylinders succeed if the volume has no >free cylinders? > Do you really want to know this stuff Or are you just trying to send someones brain into an infinite l

Re: DISP=(MOD,DELETE)

2007-05-23 Thread Bob Rutledge
Never come up here either, but I have a litterbox. Z890 e . : ZOSPL1 Command ===> Unit . . : 3390 Volume Data VTOC Data Free Space TracksCyls Tracks . : 50,085 Tracks . :14 Size . . : 0 0 %Used . : 100 %Used . . :

Re: Synchronize Time Between Mainframe and Servers?

2007-05-23 Thread Glenn Miller
Dave, The 9037 Model 1 was withdrawn from Marketing 02/03/1997 & withdrawn from Support 12/31/2003. The 9037 Model 2 was withdrawn from Marketing 12/31/2006 however, no date has been announced for the withdraw of Support. We have been looking into STP for awhile. We have found alot of planni

Re: DISP=(MOD,DELETE)

2007-05-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Will allocating 0 cylinders succeed if the volume has no free cylinders? Actually, yes. As long as your VTOC has room. Remember setting GDG models? - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / ar

Re: &&PDS caused JCL error - WHY

2007-05-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Yeah. Right. Paul, I've asked this question before. And, I mean it in the nicest possible way. Is there anything you like in z/OS? I've worked with its predecessors since the early 1970's acedemically, and professionally since 1981. I accept that there are warts, but UNIX/LINUX and Windows h

Re: DISP=(MOD,DELETE)

2007-05-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>all space allocations must be CYL by fiat Since ECKD came out with DEFINE EXTENT that doesn't matter anymore! The control unit no longer signals back asking if it's okay to move to the next in line (cylinder or track). And, even if it did, it's nano's. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! --

Re: Abend S0C7 in PL1 program

2007-05-23 Thread Bob Rutledge
Check the Language Environment STORAGE option. Bob Michael Tutor wrote: Thanks for the suggestions! We do have a copy of the S0C7 dump which contains the module name. We are also in the process of obtaining the compile listing so that we can make sense of the dump :-) I checked the virtua

Re: DISP=(MOD,DELETE)

2007-05-23 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
> -Original Message- > From: Paul Gilmartin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 5:32 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: DISP=(MOD,DELETE) > > On Wed, 23 May 2007 17:11:58 -0400, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: > > >Actually, SPACE=(0,0) will work just as well,

Re: DISP=(MOD,DELETE)

2007-05-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 23 May 2007 17:11:58 -0400, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: >Actually, SPACE=(0,0) will work just as well, if you can get it past your >SDLC (software development life cycle) software (ours requires >SPACE=(CYL,0), all space allocations must be CYL by fiat). > Will they permit SPACE=(0,(0,0),,

Re: Abend S0C7 in PL1 program

2007-05-23 Thread Michael Tutor
Thanks for the suggestions! We do have a copy of the S0C7 dump which contains the module name. We are also in the process of obtaining the compile listing so that we can make sense of the dump :-) I checked the virtual storage map per Steve's suggestion and the private area below and above

Re: Synchronize Time Between Mainframe and Servers?

2007-05-23 Thread McKown, John
I'm going to come in from the parking lot (beyond left field) on this. What cannot be done a z/OS system is moving the TOD clock backwards in time. From what I understand of the ETR and the new STP is that they adjust the "speed" of the TOD clock to "steer" it towards the "correct" time. Yes, this

Re: &&PDS caused JCL error - WHY

2007-05-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 23 May 2007 20:36:17 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >>Why does JCL/job processesing have that dumb behavior? > >Because it was written 40 years ago? >Because it could/would break many things if it's changed. > Yeah. Right. //STEP1EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 //SYSUT1DD DISP=(,PASS),DSN=&&FOO,

Re: Synchronize Time Between Mainframe and Servers?

2007-05-23 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Wed, 23 May 2007 12:11:53 -0500, Eric Chevalier wrote: >I get the impression that an ETR (or something like an ETR) might >still be required with STP. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm >wrong! :-) > I too am confused by this. Although in my case, that's not a particularly impressive fea

Re: DISP=(MOD,DELETE)

2007-05-23 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
Actually, SPACE=(0,0) will work just as well, if you can get it past your SDLC (software development life cycle) software (ours requires SPACE=(CYL,0), all space allocations must be CYL by fiat). But you're right, it surely shows you for the creature of habit that you are... :) Welcome to the clu

Re: META: IBM-Main via Listserv vs. Usenet

2007-05-23 Thread Don Poitras
ditto Howard Brazee wrote: > > Top posting because it appears that this post was an example of one > sent directly to Usenet - where I would expect Darren to miss it. > > On Wed, 23 May 2007 13:04:42 -0400, Arthur T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > In one day I saw at least two interesti

Re: DISP=(MOD,DELETE)

2007-05-23 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Wed, 23 May 2007 15:07:26 -0500, Patrick O'Keefe wrote: >>... >>//SYSUT1 DD DSN=Your.Data.Set.Name, >>// DISP=(MOD,DELETE,DELETE), >>// UNIT=(SYSDA,,DEFER), >>// SPACE=(TRK,(0,0),RLSE) >>... > >Good thing you're releasing all that unused space. :-) >Does

Re: report excps by job step

2007-05-23 Thread Phil Knight
DAF File 094 CBT //* DAF CAN SOLVE MANY COMMON MYSTERIES BY SHOWING: * FILE 094 //* * FILE 094 //* DATASET CREATE, ACCESS, RENAME, DELETE* FILE 094 //* HOW MANY EX

Re: &&PDS caused JCL error - WHY

2007-05-23 Thread Phil Knight
Paul, I agree on both of your points regarding GENER and instream processing. To be able to introduce the exec instream directly to the background and execute would certainly simply things. The GENER step I added was used simply to debug and sanity check the basic JCL flow using the same disposi

Re: Any way at all to detune JES2MON?

2007-05-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>The monitor is looking at things even on an idle system, so in a sandbox that >is just sitting idle most of the time, the monitor takes more CPU than JES2 itself does. It's called the 'low utilisation effect'. A lot of z/OS (and friends) are polling for work to do. Take a look when/if you're ov

Re: &&PDS caused JCL error - WHY

2007-05-23 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Why does JCL/job processesing have that dumb behavior? Because it was written 40 years ago? Because it could/would break many things if it's changed. z/OS may have its warts (an UNIX doesn't?), but they're our warts! - Too busy driving to stop for gas! ---

Re: TSO XMIT and RECEIVE commands in batch

2007-05-23 Thread Lionel B Dyck
Take a look at a tool I wrote called FTPBatch on my website (http://www.lbdsoftware.com) which will simplify doing this and it supports adrdssu as well. It is an ispf dialog that generates the appropriate commands for foreground execution or jcl for batch execution. Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/S

TSO XMIT and RECEIVE commands in batch

2007-05-23 Thread Don Maxwell
I want to copy datasets from one z/OS image to another. There is no shared DASD. To use a tape is not easy because of management problems. I tried to XMIT using a batch job. When I ran the batch receive job, the datasets were not received in correct DD names . Is there a way to get around this pro

Re: TSO XMIT and RECEIVE commands in batch

2007-05-23 Thread Ale Eba
Thanks Lionel and Kurt. I will use ADRDSSU to create three or four groups because of space problem and use FTP to do the transfer. Ale - Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. ---

Re: Why is there JOB scope for DSN ENQ's anyway?

2007-05-23 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 08:37 -0500 on 05/22/2007, Paul Gilmartin wrote about Re: Why is there JOB scope for DSN ENQ's anyway?: >Note: I acknowledge that there also needs to be updates to the ENQ and ISGENQ macros to request this option and a new flag bit in their Parm fields. That and what happens if you make th

Re: Any way at all to detune JES2MON?

2007-05-23 Thread Edward Jaffe
Mark Zelden wrote: Was _anything_ JES2MON does ever part of JES2? Or was it all "net new" CPU usage. All new. BTW, on my production SAP LPAR - which is really just a DB2 back end for SAP on AIX, JES2MON and JES2 CPU times are almost identical. A 50% CPU increase! :-( -- Edward E Jaff

Re: DISP=(MOD,DELETE)

2007-05-23 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 23 May 2007 13:33:19 -0500, Dave Kopischke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >//SYSUT1 DD DSN=Your.Data.Set.Name, >// DISP=(MOD,DELETE,DELETE), >// UNIT=(SYSDA,,DEFER), >// SPACE=(TRK,(0,0),RLSE) >... Good thing you're releasing all that unused space.

Re: Non-Standard Mainframe Language?

2007-05-23 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Brazee Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 2:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Non-Standard Mainframe Language? On 23 May 2007 10:14:58 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thompson, Steve) wrote:

Re: Any way at all to detune JES2MON?

2007-05-23 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 23 May 2007 12:39:09 -0700, Edward Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Jon Brock wrote: >> Curious. On my production system, JES2 has used about 6 times the CPU as JES2MON. >> > >In other words, IBM increased your _production_ JES2 CPU utilization by >over 16% when they delivered JES2MON. Y

Re: Non-Standard Mainframe Language?

2007-05-23 Thread Howard Brazee
On 23 May 2007 10:14:58 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thompson, Steve) wrote: >Congress shall not abridge the right of the people to peacefully >ASSEMBLE [emphasis mine]. > >So you see, "C" as a language is a Johnny come lately, the US >Constitution protected the right of Assembly even before there we

Re: META: IBM-Main via Listserv vs. Usenet

2007-05-23 Thread Howard Brazee
Top posting because it appears that this post was an example of one sent directly to Usenet - where I would expect Darren to miss it. On Wed, 23 May 2007 13:04:42 -0400, Arthur T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In one day I saw at least two interesting posts which many >people missed. These we

Re: Any way at all to detune JES2MON?

2007-05-23 Thread Jon Brock
The "curious" part was that I thought you were seeing JES2MON eating more CPU than JES2 on your production system. Upon looking back, though, I see it was your sandbox. That makes a lot more sense. Jon Why curious? That would be more normal behavior. The monitor is looking at things even

Re: Abend S0C7 in PL1 program

2007-05-23 Thread Howard Brazee
On 23 May 2007 12:13:07 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fletcher, Kevin) wrote: > >We had a similar problem, but this was cobol and S0C4. The program would >run fine on one system and abend on the other (different boxes), then it >would go away and come back (sometimes, not always the same box) after >a

Re: TN3270 emulator on Linux.

2007-05-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 05/22/2007 at 08:25 AM, "R.S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >It seems the best we can do with Linux is to emulate Windows and run >windows applications That may be the best that *you* can do; I don't run any windoze applications. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, Sy

Re: Abend S0C7 in PL1 program

2007-05-23 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 23 May 2007 14:03:00 -0500, Michael Tutor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Any ideas on what else we can check or what could be causing this abend? > The dump would be a good place to start. ;-) If you have no dump, have the systems folks set a SLIP for you and /or IBM. Mark -- Mark Ze

Re: Any way at all to detune JES2MON?

2007-05-23 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 23 May 2007 15:02:05 -0400, Jon Brock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Curious. On my production system, JES2 has used about 6 times the CPU as JES2MON. > Why curious? That would be more normal behavior. The monitor is looking at things even on an idle system, so in a sandbox that is just s

Re: TSO XMIT and RECEIVE commands in batch

2007-05-23 Thread Kurt Gramling
Ale, We use a process that we can compress many datasets using ADRDSSU DUMP (DFDSS Utility) into a single dataset, XMIT this dataset into a secondary dataset which can then be FTP'd to the final destination. This allows us to do many different kinds of datasets within a single transfer. On t

Re: TSO XMIT and RECEIVE commands in batch

2007-05-23 Thread Kurt Gramling
Ale, We use a process that we can compress many datasets using ADRDSSU DUMP (DFDSS Utility) into a single dataset, XMIT this dataset into a secondary dataset which can then be FTP'd to the final destination. This allows us to do many different kinds of datasets within a single transfer. On t

Re: Any way at all to detune JES2MON?

2007-05-23 Thread Edward Jaffe
Jon Brock wrote: Curious. On my production system, JES2 has used about 6 times the CPU as JES2MON. In other words, IBM increased your _production_ JES2 CPU utilization by over 16% when they delivered JES2MON. Yikes! -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Bl

Re: SELTAPE algorithm in z/OS

2007-05-23 Thread Patrick . Falcone
I believe it's WAD or feature. But why next, I would think random would be best in spreading out the pain. And, if you don't do a lot of mounts, or you hit a lull, then you're always using the low order UCB's. Thomas Conley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 05/23/2

Re: Abend S0C7 in PL1 program

2007-05-23 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Tutor > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 2:03 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Abend S0C7 in PL1 program > > > Good day! > One of our programs written in PL1 recently encoun

Re: Abend S0C7 in PL1 program

2007-05-23 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Tutor Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 2:03 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Abend S0C7 in PL1 program Good day! One of our programs written in PL1 recently encountered a S0C7 abend. In

Re: Abend S0C7 in PL1 program

2007-05-23 Thread Fletcher, Kevin
Michael, We had a similar problem, but this was cobol and S0C4. The program would run fine on one system and abend on the other (different boxes), then it would go away and come back (sometimes, not always the same box) after an IPL. After one IPL the program would not run on either and forced the

Re: &&PDS caused JCL error - WHY

2007-05-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 23 May 2007 14:58:02 -0400, Phil Knight wrote: >As a test, interestingly enough, if you substitute the IKJEFT01 step with an >IEBGENER step to simply print the members, your basic JCL setup works fine. >Moving on from there, I modified your job inserting an IEBGENER step after >IEBUPDTE to

Re: Converting Librarian to pds

2007-05-23 Thread Pfeifer, William
PUNCH does not work with modules created with PRMOD (printer module). After trying several approaches, I've decided to write a clist to generate the jcl for each module and then add them to the pds. Thanks for your suggestion. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mail

Abend S0C7 in PL1 program

2007-05-23 Thread Michael Tutor
Good day! One of our programs written in PL1 recently encountered a S0C7 abend. In the course of our investigation, we noticed that this abend only happens when the job runs on certain systems in our sysplex. If we run the job in CPU1, it will run ok but using the same JCL and run it on CPU

Re: Any way at all to detune JES2MON?

2007-05-23 Thread Jon Brock
Curious. On my production system, JES2 has used about 6 times the CPU as JES2MON. Jon >Mark Zelden wrote: >> Even in my sandbox it looks like this: >> >> NET 5278.54 >> XCFAS 2947.96 >> WLM 2565.59 >> MIA 1887.83 >> GRS 1862.82 >> MII 1800.62 >>

Re: &&PDS caused JCL error - WHY

2007-05-23 Thread Phil Knight
Ken, As a test, interestingly enough, if you substitute the IKJEFT01 step with an IEBGENER step to simply print the members, your basic JCL setup works fine. Moving on from there, I modified your job inserting an IEBGENER step after IEBUPDTE to copy the &&PDS to a new temporary loadlib named &&

Re: &&PDS caused JCL error - WHY

2007-05-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 23 May 2007 12:30:21 -0400, Arthur T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Basically, you can only "receive" a temp DSN as many >times as it's been "sent". This is documented in the JCL >manuals and is a very old restriction. For the 2nd DD, try >using a DSN of the "*.ddanme" variety. > Di

Re: SELTAPE algorithm in z/OS

2007-05-23 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
What would you like to happen if the first mount is for 10 EXCPs and the next one is for 10M? -Original Message- From: Thomas Conley [mailto:snip] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 11:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: SELTAPE algorithm in z/OS I know SELTAPE was internalized eons ago,

Re: DISP=(MOD,DELETE)

2007-05-23 Thread Tom Schmidt
Gil, Do you have anything specified for SPACE in the active ALLOCxx member in your PARMLIB? -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] wi

Re: report excps by job step

2007-05-23 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Google for flower box + iefactrt. Dave Alcock created several. -Original Message- From: Patty Mabie [mailto:snip] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 9:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: report excps by job step Does anyone know of a report that will show job stats, and in particular exc

Re: DISP=(MOD,DELETE)

2007-05-23 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Wed, 23 May 2007 02:19:19 -0400, Doug Fuerst wrote: >Actually, this was recently explained to me by IBM. (MOD,DELETE) >indicates that the dataset might exist, if it does, then MOD it. If >it does not, then create it and then delete it. But SPACE would be >required in any case where the dataset

Re: 4-byte console numbers - history

2007-05-23 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Wed, 23 May 2007 10:53:55 -0700, Edward Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >... >last release to not support them was MVS/ESA 3.1.3. It's been a long >time ... >... Thanks Ed. I knew the "long time" part. :-) I needed that ESA 3.1.3. Pat O'Keefe ---

SELTAPE algorithm in z/OS

2007-05-23 Thread Thomas Conley
I know SELTAPE was internalized eons ago, but I thought it was internalized as NEXT. I'm seeing what looks like RANDOM on z/OS V1R8. Is this a bug or a feature? My concern is that NEXT always seemed to be the best algorithm to spread out the pain and minimize certain drives getting hammered.

Re: BTAM on Zos 1.7

2007-05-23 Thread Glenn Miller
Kay, We have z/OS R7 at PUT0608 with BTAM/SP installed. The only IBM INFO APAR that I know about is: II12538 which describes a IPL WAIT025 problem. Within this INFO APAR, there is a URL link: http://www-4.ibm.com/software/network/commserver/library/ At the bottom of this page is a link to th

Re: 4-byte console numbers - history

2007-05-23 Thread Edward Jaffe
Patrick O'Keefe wrote: What was the last release of MVS that did NOT support 4-byte console ids? And when (approximately) did it go out of support? Anybody remember? (Yes, I need rag on a vendor.) IIRC, 4-byte console IDs were introduced with MVS/ESA V4. Therefore, the last release to n

Re: Non-Standard Mainframe Language?

2007-05-23 Thread Gary Green
D'oh! I never thought about his background being in UNIX... Never mind... I tried APL once, back in 77. I thought it was the perfect programming language. One could write an entire program on/in one line of code. And, the part I liked best, no one could understand it and it "looked" like a

Re: TSO XMIT and RECEIVE commands in batch

2007-05-23 Thread Lionel B Dyck
Have you considered using FTP? That might be more flexible. Lionel B. Dyck, Consultant/Specialist Enterprise Platform Services, Mainframe Engineering KP-IT Enterprise Engineering, Client and Platform Engineering Services (CAPES) 925-926-5332 (8-473-5332) | E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: lbdyc

4-byte console numbers - history

2007-05-23 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
What was the last release of MVS that did NOT support 4-byte console ids? And when (approximately) did it go out of support? Anybody remember? (Yes, I need rag on a vendor.) Thanks. Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / s

TSO XMIT and RECEIVE commands in batch

2007-05-23 Thread Ale Eba
I want to copy datasets from one z/OS image to another. There is no shared DASD. To use a tape is not easy because of management problems. I tried to XMIT using a batch job. When I ran the batch receive job, the datasets were not received in correct DD names . Is there a way to get around this p

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