Re: DFDSS versus FDR

2007-07-20 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 10:15:26 -0500, McKown, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine >> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 10:11 AM >> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU >> Subject: DFDSS versus FDR

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Dean Kent
- Original Message - From: "Timothy Sipples" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 10:43 PM Subject: Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article) >Re: Supposed factor improvements over time in the integer perform

Re: Dyn Alloc gives 2nd instance of same GDG name

2007-07-20 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
Robert A. Rosenberg wrote: As others have told you, the relative GDG number is relative to the start of the job and all the datasets finally get cataloged (and the GDG base gets rolled) at step termination. What I would suggest is at startup do a locate on GDG(0) to find the last GDG number. Ad

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Timothy Sipples
Re: Supposed factor improvements over time in the integer performance of processors, there are some faulty numbers in this discussion, or at least misleading. It has to do with cores versus chips. Dean, with all due respect, no matter how much you try to fuzz it, they're not directly comparable.

Re: Last Record

2007-07-20 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
McKown, John wrote: I guess, in that case, you'd need to detect that and start "reading backwards" to find the first segment. Not a fun thing to consider. Or just not bother to support VBS with a message like: "VBS is for SMF only. Get a life!" 1) I had a life, but I squandered it working in th

Re: "Dumb" CA-1 question

2007-07-20 Thread Russell Witt
Tim, As others have stated, the easiest way to change the expiration date of an active tape is simply use the ISPF interface or the old TIQ online interface; or even the Vantage/GMI GUI interface (Graphical User Interface). Or, if you want to do it with a batch job you could use TMSUPDTE to change

Re: BMC Control-M Question

2007-07-20 Thread Gary Green
No, we didn't... The operators were asked to the time before last, but it was forgotten. However, I passed the request onto the manager of the group to make sure we get a dump the next time. We asked CA about the call not returning and they said it was not their problem since the call to an exte

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Dean Kent
- Original Message - From: "Ted MacNEIL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 2:52 PM Subject: Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article) > >x86 processor performance has increased at roughly twice the rate as

Re: KEY8 CSA: Pro/JCL and Info/XE

2007-07-20 Thread Brian Peterson
Based upon my own experience attempting to negotiate with vendors over whether it is "good" or "bad" that they use Key 8 CSA in their code, and if it was "bad", whether they would actually fix their code, this sledgehammer is ABSOLUTELY REQUIRED. Thank you, Jim. Once again, you've made another hu

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 20, 2007, at 5:28 PM, Ken Brick wrote: I seem to recall that EASYTREV/PLUS come with a set of sample SMF programs at one stage. Ken, I had access to EASYTREV ala 1979 and yes I did a lot of reporting with SMF data. However I could not (successfully) access all the new types of SM

Re: KEY8 CSA: Pro/JCL and Info/XE

2007-07-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>*EXCELLENT* attitude. Should be more of it - let's hope you have more "wins" >Jim. I agree. But, there's nothing to stop us, as customers, from changing the defaults. YES, I know we may have problems. But, we will also have opportunities. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! --

Re: KEY8 CSA: Pro/JCL and Info/XE

2007-07-20 Thread Shane
On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 16:48 -0400, Jim Mulder wrote: > I still wanted to move to a default of NO quickly, as the > slow progress in eliminating user key CSA convinced me that > the sledgehammer approach was required. Hopefully, having > to explain to security auditors why use of product X requir

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Oh, and before I forget it, PR/SM was IBM's answer to MDF, not vice versa. I >think IBM was actually the second paying customer for MDF. I worked at an alpha site of MDF. It was about three years before PR/SM. The problem(s) back then were simple. MDF did not talk to RMF, until RMF could handle

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 5:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article) >A dual core CPUs actually cause themselve

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Gerhard Adam
For example, the highest performing single-core Opteron (HP Proliant System) gets a 14.0 in SPECint peak, and 12.7 base. The best single-core Xeon result (a Bull system), is 17.4 peak and 16.8 base. The best dual-core Opteron submission is 14.9 peak and 13.5 base. The best dual-core score for X

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>A dual core CPUs actually cause themselves a bottleneck if they only have ONE >bus to communicate to/with the outside world. This becomes another design >issue that while producing apparent processor speed has to balance out against >the ability of the bus (or buses) to handle data flow (which

Re: DFDSS versus FDR

2007-07-20 Thread Luis Monge
If you add ExHPDM (Expert High Performance Data Mover) to the mix for either FDR or DFDSS you can perform your backups and restores and experience a reduction in elapse times ranging from 50% to 75%. ExHPDM V6.2 can now be seamlessly implemented and does not require having to change your curre

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Kent Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 4:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article) Frankly, I think it is a very commonly held

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Gerhard Adam
Actually, I was rounding a bit. My original post on the subject indicated that the span for x86 comparisons was Nov 2000 thru June 2006 (as I was trying to use roughly the same period as in the post I was responding to at the time), and the increase was from 5.8 to 63.6, so the numbers should be

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Edward Jaffe
Dean Kent wrote: I'm not sure I follow your reasoning. Part of mainframe processing "power" lies in its ability to do effectively use SMP (up to 54-ways now ... more later). It's part of the equation. Good benchmarks are based on computing throughput ... not individual chip speed. If you a

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>I seem to recall that EASYTREV/PLUS come with a set of sample SMF programs at >one stage. PANAUDIT -- from the same people that brought you PANVALET. The programmes seemed to disappear when CA acquired EZTREIV and PANSOFT (not exactly sure if I got the second company name correct). - Too bus

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread Ken Brick
Ed Gould wrote: > > In COBOL? Someone else showed an example of the offsets and it wasn't > simple either. I am not suggesting its impossible just a little more > than simple it isn't. IIRC it was not possible in EASYTREV at least > the version I had. SAS I know it can be done because that is what

Re: BMC Control-M Question

2007-07-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 07/19/2007 at 02:45 PM, Gary Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Now, our problem is sometimes the call from the Roscoe RPF to the >Control-M IOARKSL does not get returned. Did you take a console dump of the relevant address spaces and submit it to both vendors? If not,

Re: catalog problem why?

2007-07-20 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 07/16/2007 at 02:32 PM, Ron Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Has anyone used an iebgener(JCL) to transfer and convert ASCII to >EBCDIC an mvs file... OPTCD=Q will do a translation, but you may or may not find the translate table to be appropriate. You'll have more c

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Doug Fuerst
I for one would be interested in just why one would buy a mainframe if not for the processing power, and scalability, not to mention IO. I am involved with a data center planning activity, and the Intel servers and RS6000's consume far more cooling and power than the little old z/BC we have. So

Re: KEY8 CSA: Pro/JCL and Info/XE

2007-07-20 Thread Bob Shannon
>why can't SERVERPACK be shipped with an initial value of "NO"? Stay with NO. I'll be glad to help anyone who can't figure out how to change it to YES. Bob Shannon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructio

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>x86 processor performance has increased at roughly twice the rate as mainframe >processor performance. Yes, but. We run mainframes at 100%. We run wintels at under 20%. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subs

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>To this point, however, what I have heard is a lot of orthogonal discussion >that does nothing at all to address the specific question of processor speed. I don't think it's orthogonal. IMO, MIPS is just one component in a complex environment. If I could pull out and plug in the processor in a w

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Dean Kent
- Original Message - From: "Edward Jaffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 11:54 AM Subject: Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article) > > I really wasn't paying any attention to this thread. But, I happe

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Dean Kent
- Original Message - From: "Thompson, Steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 12:18 PM Subject: Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article) > > Actually, I have had this very argument with some previous cli

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Dean Kent
- Original Message - From: "john gilmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 1:04 PM Subject: Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article) > > Unless you two are prepared to formulate your positions carefully

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread Rick Fochtman
As soon as I can locate them. Might be a while. Grant Ward Able wrote: Yes please! Sent from Grant Ward Able's Blackberry - Original Message - From: Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07/20/2007 01:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Regarding SDSF pgm --

Re: KEY8 CSA: Pro/JCL and Info/XE

2007-07-20 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- I originally wanted to start right out with a default of NO in 1.8, but Bob Rogers talked me out of it, so I instead settled for stern language in the description of the parameter in Initialization and Tuning Reference. Even there, the writer

Re: a

2007-07-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>And someone forgot A to Z (uppercase). I actually programmed in a language called 'Eh' (Canadian pun/joke), that was very similar to B. Then, the University of Waterloo lab decided to put (weak) typing in and called it Zed. We claimed that we had gone from Eh to Zed in programming languages.

Re: a

2007-07-20 Thread Ken Porowski
Amazing, from a single letter to history lesson in only 6 posts. And someone forgot A to Z (uppercase). -Original Message- McKown, John Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] a > -Original Message- Gerhard Postpischil > > I'm not totally sure about this, but I think that Ed's > reply of "b" m

Re: KEY8 CSA: Pro/JCL and Info/XE

2007-07-20 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 07/20/2007 02:50:03 PM: > On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:03:16 -0400, Jim Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > The default was changed to ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO) in z/OS 1.9. > > > > Wow! I am surprised that the default is being changed so soon when > 90%+

Re: Sysplex structures during POR

2007-07-20 Thread Ed Rohr
Thanks -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Trojak Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 1:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Sysplex structures during POR Assuming you have both CF's defined in the structures preference lis

Re: Sysplex structures during POR

2007-07-20 Thread Ed Rohr
Hi Alan Please see my responses laced with your questions below: What about other Sysplex users like USS, WLM, LOGRR ? Thx. Ed -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Field, Alan C. Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 12:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BA

Re: Last Record

2007-07-20 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerhard Postpischil > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 3:15 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Last Record > > > McKown, John wrote: > > Outside of that, if this were to be done often

Re: a

2007-07-20 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gerhard Postpischil > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 3:12 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: a > > > > I'm not totally sure about this, but I think that Ed's > reply of "b" may be

Re: Last Record

2007-07-20 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
McKown, John wrote: Outside of that, if this were to be done often, then I'd write my own program. In HLASM, assuming a sequential file, I'd look at the DS1LSTAR (and DS1TRBAL if the DS is extended format). I would then use BSAM and POINT myself at record 1 of either the last track or next-to-las

Re: a

2007-07-20 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
I'm not totally sure about this, but I think that Ed's reply of "b" may be off topic. :-) I also suspect this is a good thread for Friday grins and not much else. Bill Fairchild Plainfield, IL Considering that c is now available on the mainframe, perhaps Ed's response was on topic, and an

Re: Sysplex structures during POR

2007-07-20 Thread Dennis Trojak
Assuming you have both CF's defined in the structures preference list, issue: SETXCF START,RB,CFNAME=primarycf,LOC=OTHER and the structures will be moved from primarycf to your secondary LOC=NORMAL will put them back where originally defined. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainfram

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread john gilmore
Tom Marchant writes: I still don't think anyone would buy a System z because of it's sheer processor speed. And I don't mean, "In part". The question Would anyone buy a z/Architecture machine just for its sheer processor speed? seems to me to be a very different one from the question Wo

Re: Sysplex structures during POR

2007-07-20 Thread Field, Alan C.
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Rohr Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 14:38 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Sysplex structures during POR System manages Structure duplexing? Do you define all structures with a primary and alte

Re: Dyn Alloc gives 2nd instance of same GDG name

2007-07-20 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 15:54 -0500 on 07/18/2007, Mark wrote about Dyn Alloc gives 2nd instance of same GDG name: I have a task that allocates a few GDG files during its running instance. I allocated one instance of a GDG and got the G0207V00 extension. 4 seconds later, I allocated another instance (different DD

Re: JAVA SAX XML parser - GOTCHA!

2007-07-20 Thread Steve Comstock
Jeffrey D. Smith wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 11:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: JAVA SAX XML parser - GOTCHA! This may well be documented somewhere, but I haven't has

Sysplex structures during POR

2007-07-20 Thread Ed Rohr
Hi We have two machines. Is there away or can we create a method to move all structures from one coupling facility to another? And then can we put them back where we had/want them later? I looking at the POR function and wondering how we can do 1 machine at a time and keep the CF envir

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:05:52 -0700, Dean Kent wrote: >> >> I don't think >> >> there's anyone who buys a mainframe for its sheer processing power. >> > >> > These servers *are* purchased, in part, >> >for their processing power. >> >> "In part"? >> > >I really have no idea what point yo

Re: IEBGENER S878-10 abend

2007-07-20 Thread Barry Merrill
REGION on the // EXEC statement is useless, unless the same or larger REGION was specified on then JOB card. Barry Merrill -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with t

Re: "Dumb" CA-1 question

2007-07-20 Thread Hawley, Scott R
You can use the CA-1 dialog that came with the product if you have access to it. Do an inquiry (option 1) for your tape, put a 'U' on the command line and overtype the date. Pressing enter will let you confirm it... Hope that helps! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 1:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article) I wasn't aware that people think mainfr

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Edward Jaffe
Dean Kent wrote: In any case, raw MIPS improvements are easily researched. For example, the charts at http://www.tech-news.com/publib/ show the largest zSeries processor in 2000, made available in 1Q00, was a 2064-116, capable of delivering 2694 MIPS; the largest System z processor today, made av

Re: REXX concatenation of strings

2007-07-20 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 19:19:11 -0400, Arthur T. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (Also, >someone noted the problem of concatenating variable named >'x' with a quoted string by abutting them.) > Problem? Ignorance the first time you ignore the REXX syntax rules and stupidity if you keep trying. Easily

Re: KEY8 CSA: Pro/JCL and Info/XE

2007-07-20 Thread Mark Zelden
>On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:04:50 -0500, Brian Peterson ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >>I think it will help us all significantly when IBM makes ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO) >>the default, if only to encourage our vendors to redouble their efforts to >>fix this bad bad programming practice. I sure hope this

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:27:32 -0500, Ed Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have little doubt you >can do it in rexx but how many people would be able to debug it (if >need be). > >Ed > Far more than could do it with Natural, EasyTrieve, SAS, Assembler, . --

Re: "Dumb" CA-1 question

2007-07-20 Thread Jack Kelly
When running with CA-1 active, is it possible to reset the expiration date I believe that the tape has to be opened as output to change the date or you could add a second file with a expdt and the volume would be saved or the easiest is to update the TMC Jack Kelly LA Systems @ US Courts x 20

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread Grant Ward Able
Yes please! Sent from Grant Ward Able's Blackberry - Original Message - From: Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07/20/2007 01:38 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Regarding SDSF pgm -- The nasty part is testing bit fields in COBO

Re: JAVA SAX XML parser - GOTCHA!

2007-07-20 Thread Jeffrey D. Smith
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of McKown, John > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 11:44 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: JAVA SAX XML parser - GOTCHA! > > This may well be documented somewhere, but I haven't has yet seen

"Dumb" CA-1 question

2007-07-20 Thread Tim Hare
It's Friday and the brain apparently turned off, and RTFM isn't working well When running with CA-1 active, is it possible to reset the expiration date of an existing tape dataset via the EXPDT= parameter in JCL? Some of us thought that at one time it was possible, at least for single-data

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Dean Kent
I replied to this directly to the newsgroup yesterday when email delivery was interrupted. I know some don't read the newsgroup, so I just want to reply again with the pertinent data in case anyone is interested. I hope I am not breaching ettiquette by doing this - but if so, I apologize in advan

Re: PSI MIPS (was: Links to decent 'why the mainframe thrives' article)

2007-07-20 Thread Dean Kent
"Tom Marchant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:51:48 -0700, Dean Kent wrote: > > >...As I said, Intel, for > >example, does not use SOI and seems to be producing very high clockrate > >devices without it, which (currently) outperform their ri

JAVA SAX XML parser - GOTCHA!

2007-07-20 Thread McKown, John
This may well be documented somewhere, but I haven't has yet seen it. I just downloaded JBOSS 4.2.1 and am looking at it. Well, it's cheaper than WAS! It keeps its configuration files in XML format. Now, usually XML is "plain text" as opposed to "binary". So when I created the z/OS JBOSS, I transla

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- The nasty part is testing bit fields in COBOL. The LE bit test routines are expensive to run. (I haven't looked recently at COBOL to see if there are native ways to do this that don't involve standing on one's head.) CALL 'CEESITST' USING WOR

Re: a

2007-07-20 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 7/20/2007 9:25:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>Jack Kelly wrote: >> a > b I'm not totally sure about this, but I think that Ed's reply of "b" may be off topic. :-) I also suspect this is a good thread for Friday grins and not much else.

Re: Last Record

2007-07-20 Thread Frank Yaeger
Paul Gilmartin wrote on 07/20/2007 08:39:33 AM: > >SELECT FROM(IN) TO(OUT) ON(5,1,CH) LAST USING(CTL1) > >/* > I'm guessing that the ON clause tells it to look in position 5, > but what tells it that a blank is what it's supposed to look for? DFSORT isn't looking for a blank - it's just looking fo

Re: How to get the LPAR NODE name ?

2007-07-20 Thread Rob Scott
The LPAR name, HW Name and other goodies can be found in the ECVT (point to by CVTECVT , mapping macro in IHAECVT in MODGEN). The HW model can be found in node descriptor pointed to by CVTHID. "CVTL1" is some sort of bi-lingual label - not for use in ASM. "CVTRELNO" can be used if you establish

Education Announcement: z/VM V5.3 Performance Update - Live Virtual Class

2007-07-20 Thread Pamela Christina ((607)429-3447 T620)
Cross posted to IBMVM, IBMMAIN, and LINUX listservs. I apologize for the late notice. Don't kill the messenger. | and I apologize for the duplicate - fixed the date Abstract: The newest release of z/VM was generally available on June 29, 2007 and has significant improvements to performace and ca

Re: No Response From Xephon - Resolved

2007-07-20 Thread Ed Philbrook
Good News: Xephon is alive and well and my subscription problems have been resolved. EdP -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Sear

How to get the LPAR NODE name ?

2007-07-20 Thread Anton Britz
Hi, Can anybody just help Dieter , at the LA times quickly ? Note: There must be module some where but I do not have time to get "tu it" this morning. Thanks. Anton Storr, Dieter wrote: > Hi Anton (not SAG-L), > > Do you know how to get info from the CVT? or examples on the Web? > > The f

Education Announcement: z/VM V5.3 Performance Update - Live Virtual Class

2007-07-20 Thread Pamela Christina ((607)429-3447 T620)
Cross posted to IBMVM, IBMMAIN, and LINUX listservs. I apologize for the late notice. Don't kill the messenger. Abstract: The newest release of z/VM was generally available on June 29, 2007 and has significant improvements to performace and capacity. This Live Virtual Class (LVC) session will de

Re: KEY8 CSA: Pro/JCL and Info/XE

2007-07-20 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 07/20/2007 12:04:50 AM: > I think it will help us all significantly when IBM makes ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO) > the default, if only to encourage our vendors to redouble their efforts to > fix this bad bad programming practice. I sure hope this default change

Re: Dyn Alloc gives 2nd instance of same GDG name

2007-07-20 Thread GAVIN Darren * OPS EAS
The other person was quite accurate in that the (+1) level of a GDG applies to the entire job, not to a particular step. So if you need to allocate multiples, use (+1), then (+2), etc. . . If the task is a single program that's trying to produce two of the same GDG's where second is optional(not

Re: Last Record

2007-07-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 07:48:03 -0700, Frank Yaeger wrote: > >Of course, if you already happen to have the same value in all of the >records, this can be simplified even more. For example, if every record >had a blank in position 5, you could use this DFSORT/ICETOOL job: > >//S2 EXEC PGM=ICETOOL >//T

Re: DFDSS versus FDR

2007-07-20 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 10:11 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: DFDSS versus FDR > > > Many moons ago I had access to the FDR products for backup > and recovery

DFDSS versus FDR

2007-07-20 Thread Jim McAlpine
Many moons ago I had access to the FDR products for backup and recovery but now I only have DFDSS. As I remember, one of the big differentiators at the time was that with FDR you could do a dataset restore (including VSAM datasets) from a full volume physical dump but that wasn't possible with D

Re: Last Record

2007-07-20 Thread Frank Yaeger
Paul Gilmartin wrote on 07/20/2007 07:13:38 AM: > There's a thread active in TSO-REXX in which the OP wished > to extract the last record from a data set. Of course, this > spawns a school of increasingly byzantine suggestions: > > Read into a stem and use the STEM.0th element > > Edit Mac

Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread Sridhar K Veena
G'day, Please let me know if there is a way to extract all the jobs (with start and end times) from spool. The requirement is to provide a daily report on jobs that ran, with their start time, end time and return code. Is there a way I can use SDSF pgm to extract contents of all the jobs (or

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:27:32 -0500, Ed Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have little doubt you >can do it in rexx but how many people would be able to debug it (if >need be). > At least as many as could for any program written in any other language considering rexx syntax is fairly simple (one

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread David Andrews
On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 06:31 -0700, Ray Mullins wrote: > In something as compute-intensive as SMF triplets, every little bit > helps. The nasty part is testing bit fields in COBOL. The LE bit test routines are expensive to run. (I haven't looked recently at COBOL to see if there are native ways t

Re: PR: IBM Announces Tivoli OMEGAMON XE for CICS Transaction Gateway

2007-07-20 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 18, 2007, at 8:21 AM, Timothy Sipples wrote: --SNIP- If you do see an IBM software product that isn't yet available on the mainframe -- one of the shrinking number -- and you'd strongly consider buying it for the mainframe, go ahead and ask your IBM r

Re: IPCS Question(s)

2007-07-20 Thread Robert Wright
Charles Hardee wrote on 2007-07-20 10:16:57: > What about simply another internal variable, similar to say, TITLE. > One could then code > > For Page: EVAL PAGENUM CLIST|REXX(STO(variable_name)) > For Line: EVAL LINENUM CLIST|REXX(STO(variable_name)) > > I mean, if one could dream and hope, I

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread Anton Britz
Hi, Just to prove that we do not all think a like : The orginal question was asked by somebody working for a consultance. A consultance that charges customers exorbantly high fees and then they give the work to H1B holders that earn $10 per hour. So maybe we should ask more questions ex. a. W

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread John Kington
Ed, > > In COBOL? Someone else showed an example of the offsets and it > wasn't simple either. I am not suggesting its impossible just a > little more than simple it isn't. IIRC it was not possible in > EASYTREV at least the version I had. SAS I know it can be done It is dirt simple in Easytriev

Re: Last Record

2007-07-20 Thread Reda, John
Gil, You can do this in many different ways with the sort. Assuming an 80-byte record the following control cards is one way you can accomplish this: INREC FIELDS=(1,80,SEQNUM,4,BI) SORT FIELDS=(81,4,BI,D) . OUTFIL OUTREC=(1,80),ENDREC=1 John Reda Syncsort, Inc. -Or

Re: Last Record

2007-07-20 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 9:14 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Last Record > > > There's a thread active in TSO-REXX in which the OP wished > to extr

Re: web IBMLINK STILL down - fix time now supposed to be 1:30 pm

2007-07-20 Thread David Andrews
On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 08:37 -0500, Ed Gould wrote: > Then I would suggest that at the annual stock holders meeting create > a "vote" and put it before the board. Hee! There was a time when I was almost that desperate to get a JES2 APAR accepted. After I unsuccessfully lobbied level-2 for a fix

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 20, 2007, at 8:21 AM, Mark Zelden wrote: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:08:50 -0500, Ed Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As for as being "impossible to use", it's a SMOP and there are plenty of examples on the CBT (including DAF). In COBOL? Someone else showed an example of the offsets and

Re: z/OS NFS Client to Linux NFS

2007-07-20 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crispin Hugo > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 5:55 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: z/OS NFS Client to Linux NFS > > > Thank so much John for the information. Its just what I need

Re: more ibmlink downtime-will be fixed by quitting time

2007-07-20 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/20/2007 9:08:27 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: update is that it will be fixed by 4:30 p.m. eastern time. >> If you need to exorcise sadomasochistic tendencies, the Open is being broadcast on TNT. ** Get

Re: IPCS Question(s)

2007-07-20 Thread Hardee, Charles H
Hi Bob, What about simply another internal variable, similar to say, TITLE. One could then code For Page: EVAL PAGENUM CLIST|REXX(STO(variable_name)) For Line: EVAL LINENUM CLIST|REXX(STO(variable_name)) I mean, if one could dream and hope, I would think this might be the easiest

Last Record

2007-07-20 Thread Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There's a thread active in TSO-REXX in which the OP wished to extract the last record from a data set. Of course, this spawns a school of increasingly byzantine suggestions: Read into a stem and use the STEM.0th element Edit Macro Sort into reverse order and take the first. Cou

Re: width of postings

2007-07-20 Thread Tom Marchant
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:20:10 -0500, Bill Godfrey wrote: >On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:44:57 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: > >>On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:45:21 -0500, Dave Kopischke wrote: >> >>>I follow the list through the web browser. Occasionally, I notice the last >>>word of a line is duplicated on the nex

Re: REXX concatenation of strings

2007-07-20 Thread Arthur T.
On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:54:46 -0400, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) "pdc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: just a quick question. (double posted to TSOREXX) Is there a difference, performance or otherwise, between the following two commands? On the more general R

Re: Regarding SDSF pgm

2007-07-20 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/20/2007 8:03:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: that puts them there, SYSLOG won't cut it. Even if he does it's not a good method .. for a lot of reasons. >> Yeah, MXG/SAS on healthy PC keep you well tuned and make pretty reports the PHB's can

Re: IPCS Question(s)

2007-07-20 Thread Robert Wright
Charles Hardee wrote on 2007-07-20 08:22:06: > Thanks for the info Bob. > > Unfortunately, this is a report currently being produced via code from a > CLIST. I'm not sure I want to add much code to it, however, as the > CLISTs are in the process of being converted to REX EXECs. > In any case, your

Antwort: Re: RMF Spreadsheet Reporter Overview

2007-07-20 Thread Albert Klimek
RMF is not my main topic. Therefore I use the RMF Spreadsheet Reporter to investigate our LPAR performance. But a sorted SMF dataset is mandatory for reports and overviews. I assumed the Spreadsheet Reporter handles this automatically. Albert VERLAGSGRUPPE WELTBILD GMBH Sitz der Gesellschaft:

Re: web IBMLINK STILL down - fix time now supposed to be 1:30 pm

2007-07-20 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 20, 2007, at 8:11 AM, David Andrews wrote: On Thu, 2007-07-19 at 22:50 -0500, Ed Gould wrote: Write the president of IBM and let him know. If the letter makes it to him (doubtful) he might make a difference. We wrote such a letter to John Akers 20 years ago, and it resulted in *immedia

Re: web IBMLINK STILL down - fix time now supposed to be 1:30 pm

2007-07-20 Thread Rugen, Len
What is the host & port for the 3270 interface? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archi

Re: Dyn Alloc gives 2nd instance of same GDG name

2007-07-20 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 3:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Dyn Alloc gives 2nd instance of same GDG name I have a task that allocates a few GDG files during its running instance

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