Health CHECK(IBMCSV,CSV_LNKLST_NEWEXTENTS)

2008-05-27 Thread Barbara Nitz
This is a head-up so no one else spends a lot of time needlessly: This check tripped on all systems in the production sysplex (together with the RACF sensitive resources one). Then both conditions cleared themselves magically on all systems all by themselves, and since we didn't have the histor

Re: Interesting article

2008-05-27 Thread Barbara Nitz
Gary, this installation has been running on 'thin clients' (inaffectionately called 'toasters') for as long as I work here. Plays havoc on IBMs 'new face', as that requires '.exe'-execution priviledges, which the toaster users don't have. All the new and clickable applications that IBM is at s

Re: WLM Subsystem Type TCP

2008-05-27 Thread Barbara Nitz
Hi George, thanks, that did it! I am starting out with an exvel40 Imp3 goal across all lpars, given that we're not even using IPSec. But I wanted the work out of sysother! Once we start using it, I'll see what the PI for it says (if I ever see any service in it!) Best regards, Barbara -- Psss

Re: PPRC and page datasets

2008-05-27 Thread Ron Hawkins
Darth, Then why use asynchronous remote copy software and skip just about all of the performance hit? The ONLY reason for using Synchronous remote copy is when you need zero data loss on the remote side, which is not your requirement. Note that zero data loss with synchronous remote copy does n

Re: encryption on z/OS

2008-05-27 Thread Finch, Steve
It depends on what you want to encrypt, how you want to encrypt and where you want to encrypt. No single package does it all. If you run a big shop you may end up with several software / hardware encryption solutions. Each doing it's job. Each with it's dis-advantages and advantages Steve F

Re: ATL Mysteries

2008-05-27 Thread Russell Witt
Daniel, As always, first open an issue with TLMS L1 support. Next, the CBRUXENT exit will reject the insertion of a tape that is marked as "out of service" to TLMS. You indicated that TLMS says the tape is offsite. Are you sure that it is simply vaulted according to TLMS; or is it "out of service"

Re: SUB=MSTR STC with DSNs in User Catalog

2008-05-27 Thread Philip R Chauvet
This is still a documented restriction. See section 2.4.1 in the 1.9 version of the manual DFSMS Managing Catalogs (SC26-7409-05) where it states: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DGT2C150/2.4.1?SHELF=DGT2BK71&DT=20060608131553 The master catalog for a system contains

Re: SDSF slow after migration to z/OS 1.9

2008-05-27 Thread Skip Robinson
We saw this problem during our 1.9 ESP when we went to our first production system. Turning off APPC resolved the slowdown. Seems no one has sorely missed APPC output, so we've left it off for the time being. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHAR

Re: SDSF slow after migration to z/OS 1.9

2008-05-27 Thread Roger Bolan
I notice the text of the APAR also talks about two work-arounds. 1. use APPC OFF 2. don't use owner=* Do either of those speed it up for you? Roger Bolan infoprint.com Boulder, Colorado, USA P Think before you print IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 05/27/2008 04:44:59 PM: > I h

Re: Workstation compliance

2008-05-27 Thread Roger Bolan
This might not actually help your situation, but I thought this page was interesting as far as Vista is concerned. http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=VSTA-DWNGRD Roger Bolan infoprint.com Boulder, Colorado, USA P Think before you print IBM Mainf

Interesting article

2008-05-27 Thread Gary Green
To kinda make up for my earlier post about Evil Knievel's son (an off topic post if ever there was one), this article landed in my inbox so I thought I would pass it along. My comment is this, "were they not called 3270 terminals" way back when. And, since when is "this approach completely differ

Re: SDSF slow after migration to z/OS 1.9

2008-05-27 Thread Burrell, C. Todd (CDC/OCOO/ITSO) (CTR)
I had the same types of issues with SDSF when I went to 1.9, and I found that the main slow issue was with the HELD queue display. OUTPUT was also slow. My work around was to simply reduce the number of days of output in the queue, and more aggressively pull output to CA-View. It seems that onc

Re: Workstation compliance

2008-05-27 Thread Gibney, Dave
Thank you. I don't know how much flexibility I'll have with the new desktop, they seem to want to go corporate standard around here lately. I'm used to opening the box myself :) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent:

Re: Workstation compliance

2008-05-27 Thread Edward Jaffe
Gibney, Dave wrote: It's been some months since I bought the laptop, some sort of gray java fault box pops up. Bookreader flat didn't work. The shelf organizer sort of works, but Vista complains and switches some "color mode" setting. Even when the organizer works with the PDF versions, it pop

Re: Workstation compliance

2008-05-27 Thread Gibney, Dave
It's been some months since I bought the laptop, some sort of gray java fault box pops up. Bookreader flat didn't work. The shelf organizer sort of works, but Vista complains and switches some "color mode" setting. Even when the organizer works with the PDF versions, it pops error boxes once in

Re: Workstation compliance

2008-05-27 Thread Edward Jaffe
Gibney, Dave wrote: ... Softcopy Librarian and Softcopy Reader don't play well with Vista. I wonder if that will change soon? What happens? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://w

Re: Workstation compliance

2008-05-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
> That's what I did on the laptop, but I still like Bookreader for quick > navigation in a book. Both formats have purpose. The ACROBAT search works, > but it's still slower. I meant use it as a work-around. When/If IBM gets it working, you can always convert back. Yes, it's slow. But, it's wo

Re: Workstation compliance

2008-05-27 Thread Gibney, Dave
That's what I did on the laptop, but I still like Bookreader for quick navigation in a book. Both formats have purpose. The ACROBAT search works, but it's still slower. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Tuesday

Re: Workstation compliance

2008-05-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
> I can live with it (I have a laptop with it) except, last I noticed, > Softcopy Librarian and Softcopy Reader don't play well with Vista. I wonder > if that will change soon? > I've grown real used to having most if not all docs I need close by Try the PDF versions. It's not perfect, but i

Workstation compliance

2008-05-27 Thread Gibney, Dave
It looks like I'm about to be blessed with a new workstation. I seem to get Windows Vista, whether I want or not. I can live with it (I have a laptop with it) except, last I noticed, Softcopy Librarian and Softcopy Reader don't play well with Vista. I wonder if that will change soon? I've

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS

2008-05-27 Thread Edward Jaffe
Mark Zelden wrote: So it looks like it has to be mounted read only by reading the above. Right. And, just to make sure we're both on the same page, the quoted information says: "... all non-owning systems must access read-write file systems through the remote owning system" and "each syste

Re: IEFUJI question

2008-05-27 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 27 May 2008 14:40:35 -0500, McKown, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >It's been a long time since I've done this, so I'm actually reading the >book. I have a very simple IEFUJI exit to implement. But I want to write >a message as to why I am failing a job. The book says not to use WTO >ROUT

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS

2008-05-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>However, I thought I read somewhere else that the system was smart enough to >handle a read request locally. I would think local reads could cause an integrity problem. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscr

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS

2008-05-27 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 27 May 2008 16:08:00 -0500, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Tue, 27 May 2008 13:58:19 -0700, Edward Jaffe ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>Mark Zelden wrote: >>> Except for read only requests (even when mounted R/W). IIRC, those are >>> handled from the local system regardless o

Re: IEFUJI question

2008-05-27 Thread George Fogg
> It's been a long time since I've done this, so I'm actually reading the > book. I have a very simple IEFUJI exit to implement. But I want to write > a message as to why I am failing a job. The book says not to use WTO > ROUTCDE=11 to write to the JESMESSAGE for a STC or TSO user. Is batch > OK? I

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS

2008-05-27 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 27 May 2008 13:58:19 -0700, Edward Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Mark Zelden wrote: >> Except for read only requests (even when mounted R/W). IIRC, those are >> handled from the local system regardless of the file system owner. >> > >Are you sure about that? I could be wrong, but I th

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS

2008-05-27 Thread Edward Jaffe
Mark Zelden wrote: Except for read only requests (even when mounted R/W). IIRC, those are handled from the local system regardless of the file system owner. Are you sure about that? I could be wrong, but I thought that all requests, when mounted R/W, were function shipped. Is there a manua

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS

2008-05-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 27 May 2008 15:31:09 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: > >Except for read only requests (even when mounted R/W). IIRC, those are >handled from the local system regardless of the file system owner. > But beware; IIRC, even an apparent read request will attempt to update the time-of-access in the I-

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS

2008-05-27 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 27 May 2008 11:42:51 -0700, Edward Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Mark Zelden wrote: >> A properly configured shared file system in either a basic or parallel sysplex. >> >> Have a look at the chapter on sharing file systems in a sysplex in the >> UNIX System Services Planning manual.

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

2008-05-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 27 May 2008 12:17:33 -0700, Edward Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Tom Schmidt wrote: >> On Tue, 27 May 2008 10:23:17 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: >> >>> You should be using 'JESINTERFACE:EVEL 2' >>> >> >> >> They spelled 'EVIL' wrong, didn't they? >> > >Mr. Knievel might disagree. :-) > W

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

2008-05-27 Thread Gary Green
Yes... Now that he jumped over 24 delivery vans. About 10-12 more than his father. On Tue May 27 12:17 , Edward Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: >Tom Schmidt wrote: >> On Tue, 27 May 2008 10:23:17 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: >> >>> You should be using 'JESINTERFACE:EVEL 2' >>> >> >> >

IEFUJI question

2008-05-27 Thread McKown, John
It's been a long time since I've done this, so I'm actually reading the book. I have a very simple IEFUJI exit to implement. But I want to write a message as to why I am failing a job. The book says not to use WTO ROUTCDE=11 to write to the JESMESSAGE for a STC or TSO user. Is batch OK? Is there a

Re: ATL Mysteries

2008-05-27 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 5/27/2008 2:17:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: User specified wrong unit type. So far we're back at BFA - brute force attack. Will see what pops next. >> If you have range for IBM service tape you can insert it as NL in that slot or if you have

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS

2008-05-27 Thread Mike Myers
Richard: What you are saying is interesting. I am in the middle of reading the process of setting up HFS file sharing. Are you saying that I can use XCF signaling to "function ship" requests from an LPAR with read-only access to an HFS file to another LPAR that has read/write access to the sa

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS

2008-05-27 Thread Edward Jaffe
Richard Bond wrote: Access thru XCF depends on whether the file-system is "sysplex-aware". If so, (like a R/O HFS) then access is local unless the requesting system does not have DASD access. In that case, XCF to owning system is required. The R/O "VERSION" ROOT FS should have local access

Re: What Are ISPF Tables? (Was: PF Key Customization [Was: ...])

2008-05-27 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Fri, 23 May 2008 16:07:28 +, Ted MacNEIL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>What are *ISPF* tables? > >An internal data structure with user defined fields an multiple rows. >... >Programming with them is not trivial. >... But not terribly difficult, either, and VERY useful. I done very little

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

2008-05-27 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Tue, 27 May 2008 12:17:33 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: >Tom Schmidt wrote: >> On Tue, 27 May 2008 10:23:17 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: >> >>> You should be using 'JESINTERFACE:EVEL 2' >>> >> >> >> They spelled 'EVIL' wrong, didn't they? >> > >Mr. Knievel might disagree. :-) So you need to be a d

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS

2008-05-27 Thread Richard Bond
Access thru XCF depends on whether the file-system is "sysplex-aware". If so, (like a R/O HFS) then access is local unless the requesting system does not have DASD access. In that case, XCF to owning system is required. The R/O "VERSION" ROOT FS should have local access to all sharing systems

Re: SUB=MSTR STC with DSNs in User Catalog

2008-05-27 Thread Rick Fochtman
Mark Thomen is on medical leave. Damn sorry to hear that. Please let him know he has all our best wishes. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive acc

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

2008-05-27 Thread Gary Green
My assumption was his fingers were typing faster than the Windows-controlled keyboard could handle and dropped the "L". ;-) On Tue May 27 14:04 , Tom Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: >On Tue, 27 May 2008 10:23:17 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: > >>Gary Green wrote: >>> That's if the job names u

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

2008-05-27 Thread Edward Jaffe
Tom Schmidt wrote: On Tue, 27 May 2008 10:23:17 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: You should be using 'JESINTERFACE:EVEL 2' They spelled 'EVIL' wrong, didn't they? Mr. Knievel might disagree. :-) -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los A

Re: ATL Mysteries

2008-05-27 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Found out a little more. The VOLSER of the tape is not in the range defined in the ATL. The dataset is on a non-scratch tape, but is not cataloged. User specified wrong unit type. So far we're back at BFA - brute force attack. Will see what pops next. ---

Re: SUB=MSTR STC with DSNs in User Catalog

2008-05-27 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jim Mulder > > IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on > 05/14/2008 09:53:49 PM: > > > Inquiring minds (still) want to know where Mark Thomen is when we > > really need him. > > Mark Thomen is on medical leave.

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2

2008-05-27 Thread Gilbert Cardenas
On Mon, 26 May 2008 11:24:27 -0500, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Is it possible that this worked for you because you also had >CNVTNUM=1? > As far as I'm aware, we have been using CNVTNUM=2 for the longest time: $DPCEDEF $HASP849 PCE

Re: Paging

2008-05-27 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ward, Mike S > > I noticed a discussion on paging earlier in the month. Is the > below still work doing or is there a better way now? > > (1 CYL PLPA and Common on the same volume) overflows to common With current r

Re: SUB=MSTR STC with DSNs in User Catalog

2008-05-27 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 05/14/2008 09:53:49 PM: > Inquiring minds (still) want to know where Mark Thomen is when > we really need him. Mark Thomen is on medical leave. Jim Mulder z/OS System Test IBM Corp. Poughkeepsie, NY --

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

2008-05-27 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Tue, 27 May 2008 10:23:17 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: >Gary Green wrote: >> That's if the job names used are the FTP logon userid +1 character. If they are different, the jobs are not tracked. >> >> If someone has different information, I would love to hear it. >> > >You should be using 'JES

Re: Paging

2008-05-27 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>(1 CYL PLPA and Common on the same volume overflows to common I still do it. Others don't. These days, I wouldn't convert from doing it or not doing it at any shop. I believe this was discussed just around a year ago. Try the archives. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

2008-05-27 Thread Gary Green
That makes all the off-topic discussions, admittedly some started by me, worth it! Thanks! On Tue May 27 10:23 , Edward Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: >Gary Green wrote: >> That's if the job names used are the FTP logon userid +1 character. If they >> are different, the jobs are not tracked

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS

2008-05-27 Thread Mike Myers
Dave: That sounds simple, of course. I will have to find out from the product vendor what USS files, if any they need to update. If none, then I could use your proposed solution. Thanks Mike >>> "Jousma, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5/27/2008 2:53 PM >>> The simplest form of sharing is to m

Paging

2008-05-27 Thread Ward, Mike S
I noticed a discussion on paging earlier in the month. Is the below still work doing or is there a better way now? (1 CYL PLPA and Common on the same volume) overflows to common == This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS

2008-05-27 Thread Jousma, David
The simplest form of sharing is to mount them to both systems READ only, if the app can support that. No muss, no fuss. Just remember, you can't make any changes then. ___ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President Mainframe Services [EMAIL PROTECTE

COBOL calling z390 Assembler using SOA EZASOKET Interface

2008-05-27 Thread Don Higgins
All z390 Portable Mainframe Assembler now supports COBOL calling z390 assembler using IBM standard EZASOKET interface without requiring any other framework or language such as XML or C. For demo with source code and screen capture using Micro Focus Mainframe Express COBOL and z390 running on

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS

2008-05-27 Thread Mike Myers
Ed: Sounds good to me. I am presently reading the File Sharing chapter in the USS Planning manual. Sounds like I am going to like this one. Mike >>> "Edward Jaffe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5/27/2008 2:42 PM >>> Mark Zelden wrote: > A properly configured shared file system in either a basic or pa

Re: ATL Mysteries

2008-05-27 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel McLaughlin > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1:35 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: ATL Mysteries > > User has a dataset on a 3590 tape that is not assigned to our > ATL. The tap

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS

2008-05-27 Thread Edward Jaffe
Mark Zelden wrote: A properly configured shared file system in either a basic or parallel sysplex. Have a look at the chapter on sharing file systems in a sysplex in the UNIX System Services Planning manual. I think the doc is pretty good. If you have questions after that, let us know. E

Re: ATL Mysteries

2008-05-27 Thread Lizette Koehler
Could you provide an messages or error codes that are occurring with the mount? Lizette >User has a dataset on a 3590 tape that is not assigned to our ATL. The tape >according to TLMS is offsite, but the OPS crew says it's here and that isn't >an >issue. The user tries to mount it on an exter

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS

2008-05-27 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Myers > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 1:00 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: USS file sharing in z/OS > > Hi: > > I seem to recall seeing some restrictions on the ability to >

ATL Mysteries

2008-05-27 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
User has a dataset on a 3590 tape that is not assigned to our ATL. The tape according to TLMS is offsite, but the OPS crew says it's here and that isn't an issue. The user tries to mount it on an external drive but VNL is asking for it in the ATL. Operator loaded it and the ATL kicked out, as e

Re: 80-Column Minds

2008-05-27 Thread Hal Merritt
It's a drop in the bucket. But how large of a drop, how small of a bucket, how many drops are already in the bucket, and what happens when the bucket gets too full? IMHO splits are just one of those things you try to be aware of and try to minimize. IIRC, splits are synchronous and may requir

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS

2008-05-27 Thread Mike Myers
Mark: Thanks. I'll take a look. Mike >>> "Mark Zelden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5/27/2008 2:30 PM >>> On Tue, 27 May 2008 13:59:46 -0400, Mike Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi: > >I seem to recall seeing some restrictions on the ability to share USS files between LPARs in a basic sysplex, a

Re: USS file sharing in z/OS

2008-05-27 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 27 May 2008 13:59:46 -0400, Mike Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi: > >I seem to recall seeing some restrictions on the ability to share USS files between LPARs in a basic sysplex, although I don't remember where I saw the reference. > Perhaps in a recent thread where there seemed t

Re: Mainframes.. Extinct or still going strong ?

2008-05-27 Thread Howard Brazee
On 27 May 2008 10:07:46 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Merritt) wrote: >Why revolutionary? Because that model appeals to a basic human >assumption that new is better and that model has been -very- successful >in a number of industries. Tried and true simply isn't cool, especially >to the less exper

Re: Bad Auditor Requests (Was Re: Hardware Alerts)

2008-05-27 Thread Gabe Goldberg
Long ago I was brought in to help the consulting company where I worked audit a government agency's VM system. The agency was running multiple levels of classified work under VM, claiming it was secure. The folks doing the security audit wanted to talk about all sorts of technical penetrations

USS file sharing in z/OS

2008-05-27 Thread Mike Myers
Hi: I seem to recall seeing some restrictions on the ability to share USS files between LPARs in a basic sysplex, although I don't remember where I saw the reference. My question is this. We have a basic sysplex here and our primary application uses the DB2 Text Extender, which employs the

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

2008-05-27 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Steve is having a little trouble posting to IBM-Main, so I am posting this for him. See below: Howdy, I didn't catch the beginning of this thread, but I would like you to know that the Mellon Mods are alive and well! Although I decided a year or so ago that we should start calling them

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

2008-05-27 Thread Edward Jaffe
Gary Green wrote: That's if the job names used are the FTP logon userid +1 character. If they are different, the jobs are not tracked. If someone has different information, I would love to hear it. You should be using 'JESINTERFACE:EVEL 2' -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International

Re: Mainframes.. Extinct or still going strong ?

2008-05-27 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 12:08 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Mainframes.. Extinct or still going strong ? [snip] > Why revolutionary? Because that model appea

Re: Mainframes.. Extinct or still going strong ?

2008-05-27 Thread Hal Merritt
Interesting, but from my addled perspective, the MF industry has always been evolutionary where the PC industry has been revolutionary. That is, were the differences between two or three releases of z/os typically takes a skilled application of IEAEYEBALL, each release of Windows seems to entail a

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

2008-05-27 Thread Big Iron
No, if you use JES interface level 2 with FTP, you can use any job name. Bill On Tue, 27 May 2008 12:16:30 -0400, Gary Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >That's if the job names used are the FTP logon userid +1 character. If they are different, the jobs are not tracked. > >If someone has differe

Re: IBMLINK Outage for May 30-Jun1

2008-05-27 Thread Big Iron
I submitted a feedback suggestion that IBM offer an Email notification service for "Important Events" affecting the IBMLink service, FWIW. Bill On Tue, 27 May 2008 12:25:17 -0400, Ken Porowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Do you have to get into IBMLink to get the message that IBMLink is >availab

Re: After POR IEBDATE in CICS is Off by 1 Day

2008-05-27 Thread George Rodriguez
John, That did the trick...Thanks for getting me out of jam... George Rodriguez Specialist, Systems Programmer IT-Operations (561) 357-7652 (office) (561) 707-3496 (mobil) School District of Palm Beach County 3348 Forest Hill Blvd. Room B332 West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869 Rated "A" by the Florid

Re: SDSF slow after migration to z/OS 1.9

2008-05-27 Thread Craig Bakken
We are also experiencing this slowdown on our Z/OS 1.9 sandbox, when users enter ST JOBNAME and have their SDSF options set to PREFIX=* OWNER=*. Max Scarpa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi all Thank you all for replies. Unluckily PTF PK52910 indicated was applied (with no luck) and we're waiting

Re: IBMLINK Outage for May 30-Jun1

2008-05-27 Thread Ken Porowski
Do you have to get into IBMLink to get the message that IBMLink is available? Just being my cynical self ... Ken -Original Message- Lizette Koehler Found this on the IBM Website Planned IBMLink Outage May 30 - June 1 A news item will be posted after the successful deployment of Relea

IBMLINK Outage for May 30-Jun1

2008-05-27 Thread Lizette Koehler
Found this on the IBM Website Planned IBMLink Outage May 30 - June 1 23 May 2008 This is to inform you that IBMLink will have a planned outage starting on Friday, May 30 at 8:00 PM Eastern Time through Sunday, June 1 at 5:00 PM Eastern Time (Saturday, May 31 from 00:00 UTC to Sund

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

2008-05-27 Thread Gary Green
That's if the job names used are the FTP logon userid +1 character. If they are different, the jobs are not tracked. If someone has different information, I would love to hear it. On Tue May 27 7:09 , Edward Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: >Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: >> Write a REXX or CLIS

Re: After POR IEBDATE in CICS is Off by 1 Day

2008-05-27 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of George Rodriguez > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 11:09 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: After POR IEBDATE in CICS is Off by 1 Day > > This past Sunday, we did a POR. I was trying to c

After POR IEBDATE in CICS is Off by 1 Day

2008-05-27 Thread George Rodriguez
This past Sunday, we did a POR. I was trying to change the main console, but I forgot 1 step in the process. Write the IODF to the system disk. This morning I got a call from one of the programmers saying that the IEBDATE was 147 instead of 148. When I look at TSO, the date and time are correct eve

Re: Mainframes.. Extinct or still going strong ?

2008-05-27 Thread Rick Fochtman
- True, MF skill sets seem to carry grey hair, close attention to retirement benefits, and boring pictures of grandchildren. Not to mention cranky OF's ;-) Also true is the proliferation of tinkertoy skill sets. But wait, something's wrong with that pic

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

2008-05-27 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 27 May 2008 09:51:33 -0500, Hal Merritt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Doesn't anyone remember the famous 'Mellon Bank Mods'? Among several >other useful features, they offered /*BEFORE, /*AFTER, exclusivity (any >job, but only one of a thread at a time), and so on. > Yes. I mentioned the

Re: Mainframes.. Extinct or still going strong ?

2008-05-27 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- There are alternatives to "extinct" and "still going strong". The main one is "evolving". Well, I could argue that is something "evolves" enough, then what it used to be is now "extinct". E.g. T-Rex and Chickens . ---

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

2008-05-27 Thread Rick Fochtman
- we in fact have a in-house production "utility" that does exactly that kindof looping suggested - except that we have the number of seconds to loop as a parm on the exec card - not exactly a guarentee, but changing a parm on an execute JCL is easier tha

Re: Mainframes.. Extinct or still going strong ?

2008-05-27 Thread Howard Brazee
On 27 May 2008 07:28:24 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Merritt) wrote: >Some potential good news is that auditors may be (finally) starting to apply >the same rules to the tinkertoys as the MF. The security solutions that need to protect data on a stolen laptop are not the same security solution

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

2008-05-27 Thread David Cole
The Mellon Bank Mods were written prior to JES2's ability to run more than one converter process. Consequently, they do not guarantee serialization for the same reason that CNVTNUM=>2 users don't get serialization. For more info, see: http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0805&L=IBM-MAIN&P=R89127

Re: Mainframes.. Extinct or still going strong ?

2008-05-27 Thread Robert Fake
Sorry - I wouldn't feel comfortable doing so, but maybe if anyone on the list has experienced a change in strategy to go back to the mainframe, they would be willing to share dome details? Bob Robert B. Fake InfoSec, Inc. 703-825-1202 (o) 571-241-5492 (c) 949-203-0406 (efax) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visi

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2

2008-05-27 Thread David Cole
The OP is an ISV concerned only about his own internal product GEN process. At 5/27/2008 10:40 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: If, as we may suspect, the OP is an ISV targeting customer platforms, he may encounter difficulties with customers' job name standards? Is there a scriptable way to release o

Re: PPRC and page datasets

2008-05-27 Thread Darth Keller
The point of this whole set-up is to be able to get as close as we can with the hardware we have available to a point in time backup for DR. The 2ndary mirrored devices are then backed up offline to tapes and the tapes shipped to off-site storage. The .08ms & .03ms were basically for documen

Re: Free z/OS webserver

2008-05-27 Thread Lester, Bob
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Rob Schramm > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 8:37 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Free z/OS webserver > > The response was "For now, you cannot order IHS Apache without hav

Re: SDSF slow after migration to z/OS 1.9

2008-05-27 Thread Max Scarpa
Hi all Thank you all for replies. Unluckily PTF PK52910 indicated was applied (with no luck) and we're waiting further IBM's hints. Regards Max Scarpa -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send ema

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2

2008-05-27 Thread Edward Jaffe
Paul Gilmartin wrote: If, as we may suspect, the OP is an ISV targeting customer platforms, he may encounter difficulties with customers' job name standards? Is there a scriptable way to release other than by job name? As stated, the OP is an ISV trying to build his own product in his own

Re: Free z/OS webserver

2008-05-27 Thread Rob Schramm
I received a response from the main e-mail contact in the redbook. I have to admit to being a bit dismayed. I am having trouble removing the crow-flavored aftertaste from the pie I just consumed. But undaunted, I shall "endeavor to persevere". The response was "For now, you cannot order IHS

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

2008-05-27 Thread Hal Merritt
Doesn't anyone remember the famous 'Mellon Bank Mods'? Among several other useful features, they offered /*BEFORE, /*AFTER, exclusivity (any job, but only one of a thread at a time), and so on. They died out many moons ago, perhaps because they mods became a upgrade nightmare, or perhaps it was

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2

2008-05-27 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:40 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant > jobs in JES2 > > On Tue, 27 May 2008 08:27:

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2

2008-05-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 27 May 2008 08:27:19 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote: > >Or submit them all with TYPERUN=HOLD and have each job release its >successor. > If, as we may suspect, the OP is an ISV targeting customer platforms, he may encounter difficulties with customers' job name standards? Is there a scriptable w

Re: Mainframes.. Extinct or still going strong ?

2008-05-27 Thread Tom Marchant
On Mon, 26 May 2008 15:54:18 -0400, John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote: > >Now, the definitions of "small" and "large" change from year to year. >One time small was 50 MIPS or under, now it might be 500 or even 1,000. Indeed. I remember being in the biggest computer room I've ever seen, with ten of the

Re: Mainframes.. Extinct or still going strong ?

2008-05-27 Thread Hal Merritt
True, MF skill sets seem to carry grey hair, close attention to retirement benefits, and boring pictures of grandchildren. Not to mention cranky OF's ;-) Also true is the proliferation of tinkertoy skill sets. But wait, something's wrong with that picture. Perhaps it is that the skill sets ar

Re: Mainframes.. Extinct or still going strong ?

2008-05-27 Thread Ken Porowski
I don't suppose you could publish any details (even if you have to leave the company name out)? Ken Porowski AVP Systems Software CIT Group E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Robert Fake One such company was in the 11th year of a 2 year migration and finally canceled it and is takin

VDR by OpenTech

2008-05-27 Thread Daniel McLaughlin
Would anyone using this care to comment (off list is fine)? I'm looking for information on setup and how it's used - such as full volume dumps, selective dumps, etc. We have TapeCopy and are considering VDR. TIA. -- For IBM-MAI

Re: Mainframes.. Extinct or still going strong ?

2008-05-27 Thread Robert Fake
As a mainframe centric software and services company, our business is seeing a growth trend. An interesting observation we have seen recently is where companies who have been migrating off of the mainframe are canceling those migration plans and staying on the mainframe. One such company was in t

Re: Controlling the execution sequence of dependant jobs in JES2 (a suggested fix)

2008-05-27 Thread Edward Jaffe
Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Write a REXX or CLIST where you submit jobs using a list of members as input. Put a waiting subroutine (a simple DO loop) between each submission long enough to allow JES2 to convert the job and place it in the Input Queue. Wait time in a busy JES2 Sysplex is usually

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