Re: Curiousity question

2008-10-02 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
This is what QINFO shows for me: Product Release: 6.8 QWIKOPTS Release: 6.3 Main data base release: 6.8 Program information: QWIKREF1 6.80

Re: Curiousity question

2008-10-02 Thread Linda Mooney
This is what I have on my system - Product Release: 6.7 QWIKOPTS Release: 6.7 Main data base release: 6.8 Program information: QWIKREF1 6.70 MVS/QUICKREF 07/28/07 11.33 It looks

Re: system logger

2008-10-02 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Anne, Manual SA22-7625 Setting up a Sysplex is *the* manual to answer all your questions with regard to Sysplex issues. Chapter 9.5 Deleting log data and log data sets, states: In general, applications should handle deletion of log data from a log stream. If the application does not manage

Re: 8 Gig memory in a z9.

2008-10-02 Thread Jim Marshall
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 15:06:12 -0400, Richbourg, Claude [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are going to upgrade from a z/890-370 to a z9 BC-X03 soon and of course I'd like to add more memory to it if I can. Does anyone know what an 8 Gig chunk would cost? Ballpark not exact figures unless you know.

Re: system logger

2008-10-02 Thread Crabtree, Anne D
Thanks to all for the help. The logstreams with the most issues are the CICS ones for DFHJ01. They seem to have offload datasets going back to when the use of logstreams was implemented in CICS. CICS person is going to investigate changing the AUTODELETE to YES and determine the best way to

Re: HMC Management Best Practices

2008-10-02 Thread Arthur Gutowski
I don't know about best practices, but we: - Make religious use of LPAR grouping - Test images in a test folder, Prod images in a Prod folder. That at least keeps the Operators from activating a Prod image when they meant to activate a test image. We still get the occasional brain check

Re: HMC Management Best Practices

2008-10-02 Thread Richards, Robert B.
I'm sure Bob Richards remembers The Chairbreaker! :-) I'm trying to forget! grin Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 4:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: HMC

Removing a PTF not needed but received in error.

2008-10-02 Thread Howard Rifkind
Hello all, I received a PTF in error and it isn't needed because it has been supp'ed. What is the proper way to remove it from the global zone? Thanks. _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the

Re: Removing a PTF not needed but received in error.

2008-10-02 Thread Mark Jacobs
Howard Rifkind wrote: Hello all, I received a PTF in error and it isn't needed because it has been supp'ed. What is the proper way to remove it from the global zone? Thanks. _ Perform a SMP REJECT on the PTF. -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Tampa, FL

Re: Removing a PTF not needed but received in error.

2008-10-02 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:09:50 -0400, Howard Rifkind wrote: I received a PTF in error and it isn't needed because it has been supp'ed. What is the proper way to remove it from the global zone? REJECT PURGE after the SUPing PTF has been ACCEPTed in all DLIB zones. -- Tom Marchant

Re: Removing a PTF not needed but received in error.

2008-10-02 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:09:50 -0400, Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I received a PTF in error and it isn't needed because it has been supp'ed. What is the proper way to remove it from the global zone? You really don't need to do anything if you have current holddata and

Re: 8 Gig memory in a z9.

2008-10-02 Thread Kammer, Charles
We added an additional 16GB to our z9-BC that is being ordered at approximately $57k/8GB chunk Charles S. Kammer -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richbourg, Claude Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 2:06 PM To:

Re: zIIP eligible products?

2008-10-02 Thread HUTCHISON Gregory
Syncsort says they make use of zIIP. Frank Yaeger would be a good one to ask if DFSORT and or ICETOOL, that I think are better products, use zIIP also. http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS229942+22-Jan-2008+PRN20 080122 Please always remember that I'm here for your Amusement! Greg

Re: Removing a PTF not needed but received in error.

2008-10-02 Thread Howard Rifkind
Thanks all, I had thought about reject but wasn't sure. Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/2/2008 10:28 AM On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:09:50 -0400, Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I received a PTF in error and it isn't needed because it has been supp'ed. What is the proper way

signoff

2008-10-02 Thread Jerry Fuchs
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Put on APAR or wait to put on PTF?

2008-10-02 Thread Lou, Jim
Hello, I have been working with IBM on a problem involving 1. OMEGAMON XE on z/OS 4.1 exit invoked by 2. ICSF invoked by 3. LDAP using SSL/TLS with RACF. IBM has determined that the exit is in error and is writing up an APAR. Question: What is the policy of shops in regards to

Re: Put on APAR or wait to put on PTF?

2008-10-02 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 11:03:44 -0400, Lou, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have been working with IBM on a problem involving 1. OMEGAMON XE on z/OS 4.1 exit invoked by 2. ICSF invoked by 3. LDAP using SSL/TLS with RACF. IBM has determined that the exit is in error and is writing

Re: HMC Management Best Practices

2008-10-02 Thread Howard Rifkind
Upon second look SMP told me that the PTF was accepted, it is in the TLIB as well as in the DLIB. So, it now is in all three zones. I don't want to reject the PTF from TLIB/DLIB just from the global zone. How would I handle this situation? Thanks Richards, Robert B. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: HMC Management Best Practices

2008-10-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
Howard, The REJECT command only removes PTFs from the GLOBAL zone. If you want to affect the TLIB/DLIB you would use RESTORE. I use RESTORE/RECEIVE process when I am working with a usermod, it has not touched the TLIB/DLIB when I do this. Lizette Upon second look SMP told me that the PTF

Re: HMC Management Best Practices

2008-10-02 Thread Rick Fochtman
Have you got your CD-ROM yet ?? Richards, Robert B. wrote: I'm sure Bob Richards remembers The Chairbreaker! :-) I'm trying to forget! grin Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman Sent: Wednesday, October

Re: HMC Management Best Practices

2008-10-02 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Rick, Yes, but after looking through it, it contained that exact same information as the last one you sent me. It is not a copy of the files from the tape I sent you that you sent to Sam. Listening to a 1.10 webcast at the moment. I'll get in touch with you soon (not today). Thanks for sending

Re: zIIP eligible products?

2008-10-02 Thread Edward Jaffe
HUTCHISON Gregory wrote: Syncsort says they make use of zIIP. Frank Yaeger would be a good one to ask if DFSORT and or ICETOOL, that I think are better products, use zIIP also. DFSORT and ICETOOL do not make use of zIIP. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century

Re: HMC Management Best Practices

2008-10-02 Thread Richards, Robert B.
My apologies to the list for the private email to Rick. Bob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: HMC Management Best Practices

2008-10-02 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 11:25:14 -0400, Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Upon second look SMP told me that the PTF was accepted, it is in the TLIB as well as in the DLIB. So, it now is in all three zones. I don't want to reject the PTF from TLIB/DLIB just from the global zone. How would

Re: Put on APAR or wait to put on PTF?

2008-10-02 Thread Rick Fochtman
Jim, in our shop we had to evaluate each issue on its own merit. In most cases, the impact of the problem was such that we could wait for the official fix, a PTF. In a very few cases, we applied the APAR-suggested fix. In situations where the problem was marked HIPER, we deliberately tried to

Re: HMC Management Best Practices

2008-10-02 Thread Jousma, David
In addition to what Mark mentions, also optionally setup your SMPE options to include a RECEIVE ZONE GROUP, so that PTF's once applied and accepted, don't get re-received again if you order bulk maintenance. _ Dave Jousma Assistant

Re: zIIP eligible products?

2008-10-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
DFSORT and or ICETOOL, that I think are better products Possibly, but the two times I tried to replace SYNCHSORT with DFSORT, and one time I did the opposite, DFSORT was the more expensive product. The last time was just over two years ago. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: Put on APAR or wait to put on PTF?

2008-10-02 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:51:43 -0500, Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, in our shop we had to evaluate each issue on its own merit. In most cases, the impact of the problem was such that we could wait for the official fix, a PTF. In a very few cases, we applied the APAR-suggested fix. In

Re: zIIP eligible products?

2008-10-02 Thread Peter Relson
I don't think this zIIP exploiter has been mentioned: Extended Remote Copy (XRC) data mover address spaces exploitation of zIIP was shipped by OA23174 on 3/6/08. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: HMC Management Best Practices

2008-10-02 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 11:55:49 -0400, Jousma, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In addition to what Mark mentions, also optionally setup your SMPE options to include a RECEIVE ZONE GROUP, so that PTF's once applied and accepted, don't get re-received again if you order bulk maintenance. Good advise.

HSM backup retention

2008-10-02 Thread Dana Rupp
Is there a way with HSM to retain a daily backup of a dataset for 45 days and retain a monthly backup of the same dataset for 24 months? This dataset is updated every day. I don't see a way to do this with the management class rules. Dana Rupp State of Florida

Re: Removing a PTF not needed but received in error.

2008-10-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:09:50 -0400, Howard Rifkind wrote: I received a PTF in error and it isn't needed because it has been supp'ed. What is the proper way to remove it from the global zone? I'll suggest APPPLYing the SUPing PTF. That will nicely prevent the intrusion of the unwanted

Information Only Console Buffers

2008-10-02 Thread Hal Merritt
We are looking to deploy a number of 'information only' consoles using PC's and suitable TN3270 client software and the ICC. Of course, PC's fail and just disappear. With full function consoles on a 2074 or Visara controller, this can cause console buffer shortages. Is this a potential issue

Re: HSM backup retention

2008-10-02 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Suggest you separate the backups into daily and monthly jobs with separate output dataset names with separate Management classes. You might use GDGs with Limit 45 and 24 for the daily and Monthly backups respectively. I'm not aware of any way to treat one generation of HSM backup differently

Re: HMC and changing the LPAR weights

2008-10-02 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:14:13 -0700, Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gsg wrote: Does anyone know if there is a way to automate changing the weight distribution in the HMC? I have never heard of such a thing, but thought I'd ask anyway. You can programmatically change the weights and just

3592 Tape Drives

2008-10-02 Thread Hal Merritt
I'm doing some due diligence planning for adding 3592 tape units (and the controller) to our existing 3494 ATL. I assume that the typical POTS and LAN connections would be required, but the FM's I have are silent. Where can I find the POTS and LAN specifications? Thanks!!

What's current CPU utilization at ANOTHER system?

2008-10-02 Thread Victor Gil
While in SDSF [logged on to a TSO on System-A] how do I view current CPU utilization by *another* System-B that participates in the same MAS? Thanks in advance! -Victor- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: HSM backup retention

2008-10-02 Thread Staller, Allan
Assign multiple dump classes in the STORGRR. Probably would be easier to schedule a job to copy the dataset on a monthly basis. snip Is there a way with HSM to retain a daily backup of a dataset for 45 days and retain a monthly backup of the same dataset for 24 months? This dataset is updated

LE question about COBOL compatibility

2008-10-02 Thread Mark Yuhas
Has IBM announced what release of LE will not support old COBOL runtime environments, specifically OS/VS COBOL and VS COBOL II? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: LE question about COBOL compatibility

2008-10-02 Thread John P Kalinich
Mark Yuhas of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 10/02/2008 12:27:32 PM: Has IBM announced what release of LE will not support old COBOL runtime environments, specifically OS/VS COBOL and VS COBOL II? LE is a runtime environment with OS/VS COBOL and VS COBOL II

IBM DB2 Version 9 for z/OS

2008-10-02 Thread Florian Bilek
Dear all, Is it possible to use for the DB2 LOAD UTILITY (DB2 Version 9 for z/OS) a file from Unix Filesystem? I mean can a PATH parameter be given to the DD statement refering a file in a zFS instead of having a normal MVS dataset? Thank you in advance, Best regards, Florian

Re: LE question about COBOL compatibility

2008-10-02 Thread John McKown
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 12:35:16 -0500, John P Kalinich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Yuhas of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 10/02/2008 12:27:32 PM: Has IBM announced what release of LE will not support old COBOL runtime environments, specifically OS/VS COBOL and

Re: Put on APAR or wait to put on PTF?

2008-10-02 Thread Rick Fochtman
I don't advocate NOT putting it on; only that it should be thoroughly tested on a sandbox before installation in a production environment. After all, a APAR fix isn't guaranteed to be the perfect fix; only a temporary fix that will hopefully address the problem effectively. The folks on the

Re: HMC Management Best Practices

2008-10-02 Thread Rick Fochtman
Have you got Hercules ready to the point where you can handle AWS tapes? I can try to generate a copy of what Sam sent me in AWSTAPE format from your tape. Rick Richards, Robert B. wrote: I'm sure Bob Richards remembers The

Re: What's current CPU utilization at ANOTHER system?

2008-10-02 Thread Gray, Larry - Larry A
SYSNAME System-B Larry Gray Large Systems Engineering Lowe's Companies 336-658-7944 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Victor Gil Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2008 1:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: What's current CPU

Re: HMC Management Best Practices

2008-10-02 Thread Howard Rifkind
Very sorry about this ... in a rush and picked the wrong email to respond to. Howard Rifkind [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/2/2008 11:25 AM Upon second look SMP told me that the PTF was accepted, it is in the TLIB as well as in the DLIB. So, it now is in all three zones. I don't want to reject the

Weird SDSF thought.

2008-10-02 Thread John McKown
In my usually weird thought mode, I was wondering about something. We're on z/OS 1.8, and so this thought may not apply to later releases. Anyway, there are three display drivers for SDSF that I can see: ISFBDSP - Batch; ISFS4DSP - ISPF; ISFTDSP - native TSO. What occurred to me was yet another

Re: What's current CPU utilization at ANOTHER system?

2008-10-02 Thread Kevin Mckenzie
It's indirect, but in the DA panel, look at the SCPU% column of an address space running on System-B. Similarly you can get zAAP CPU utilization from the szAAPcolumn, and zIIP utilization from the szIIP column. Note that the systems don't need to be in the same MAS for this; it's RMF that

Re: Put on APAR or wait to put on PTF?

2008-10-02 Thread Linda Mooney
It's a risk/benefit question for us. How bad is the pain vs. how bad we need/want the fix. I do try to test in my testbed, even if I know that I will probably wait for the PTF, at least for production. That way, I can contribute my test results (good or bad) while the APAR is still open.

I NH command on z/OS 1.9

2008-10-02 Thread Hoesly, Bret
Hello all, We just upgraded to z/OS 1.9 this past weekend, and now DUP jobs waiting in the input queue no longer show up via an I NH command. I'm finding it somewhat annoying having to check the entire input queue to see how many jobs are queued up rather than using I NH like I have for some

Re: Weird SDSF thought.

2008-10-02 Thread Scott Ford
John, As a developer, I agree with you it's not weird makes sense. The world of IT is heading toward XML to a certain degree. It could open up a lot of doors that had previously been closed. Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer | Forging Enterprise Identity | IdentityForge.com (Main)

Re: What's current CPU utilization at ANOTHER system?

2008-10-02 Thread Victor Gil
Thanks a lot, Kevin! Exactly what I needed. -Victor- On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:43:04 -0400, Kevin Mckenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's indirect, but in the DA panel, look at the SCPU% column of an address space running on System-B. Similarly you can get zAAP CPU utilization from the

Re: Weird SDSF thought.

2008-10-02 Thread Steve Comstock
John McKown wrote: In my usually weird thought mode, I was wondering about something. We're on z/OS 1.8, and so this thought may not apply to later releases. Anyway, there are three display drivers for SDSF that I can see: ISFBDSP - Batch; ISFS4DSP - ISPF; ISFTDSP - native TSO. What occurred to

Re: LE question about COBOL compatibility

2008-10-02 Thread Linda Mooney
For several Shares (Seattle, Baltimore, Tampa, San Diego and San Jose), I have had to follow up on OS/VS COBOL issues as we have several large, mission critical systems written in OS/VS and VS COBOL II. This is always a topic at some of the sessions. I have been there when IBM has asked for a

Re: Weird SDSF thought.

2008-10-02 Thread Kirk Wolf
All you need is the REXX SDSF interface. You can use it to write a z/OS Unix Rexx script to implement a CGI in REXX. An ISPF and TSO environment is not necessary. FWIW: There are some sample programs that ship with JZOS that call a REXX script as a child process and access SDSF from Java over a

Re: Removing a PTF not needed but received in error.

2008-10-02 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 11:23:56 -0500, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 10:09:50 -0400, Howard Rifkind wrote: I received a PTF in error and it isn't needed because it has been supp'ed. What is the proper way to remove it from the global zone? I'll suggest APPPLYing the

Re: LE question about COBOL compatibility

2008-10-02 Thread Schumacher, Otto
We have COBOL programs using both OS/VS COBOL and COBOL 2 running on zOS 1.9. The COBOL2 should be fairly easy to convert by just recompiling and making sure that the LE runtime is used. Even if you use the COBOL2 compiler using the CEELKED library in the link edit will assure that these program

Re: Information Only Console Buffers

2008-10-02 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 11:16:53 -0500, Hal Merritt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are looking to deploy a number of 'information only' consoles using PC's and suitable TN3270 client software and the ICC. Of course, PC's fail and just disappear. With full function consoles on a 2074 or Visara

Re: LE question about COBOL compatibility

2008-10-02 Thread John P Kalinich
Otto S of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 10/02/2008 04:46:51 PM: The COBOL2 should be fairly easy to convert by just recompiling and making sure that the LE runtime is used. Yes, provided that you still have the source code. The OS/VS COBOL programs don't

Re: Information Only Console Buffers

2008-10-02 Thread Richard Peurifoy
Hal Merritt wrote: We are looking to deploy a number of 'information only' consoles using PC's and suitable TN3270 client software and the ICC. Of course, PC's fail and just disappear. With full function consoles on a 2074 or Visara controller, this can cause console buffer shortages. Is

Re: Information Only Console Buffers

2008-10-02 Thread Edward Jaffe
Hal Merritt wrote: We are looking to deploy a number of 'information only' consoles using PC's and suitable TN3270 client software and the ICC. Of course, PC's fail and just disappear. With full function consoles on a 2074 or Visara controller, this can cause console buffer shortages. This

Re: IBM DB2 Version 9 for z/OS

2008-10-02 Thread Roland Schiradin
Haven't tried but the DB2 LOAD support paths for LOB columns. Roland Dear all, Is it possible to use for the DB2 LOAD UTILITY (DB2 Version 9 for z/OS) a file from Unix Filesystem? I mean can a PATH parameter be given to the DD statement refering a file in a zFS instead of having a normal MVS

Re: Weird SDSF thought.

2008-10-02 Thread John McKown
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008, Steve Comstock wrote: Maybe you could use the new ISPF Gateway and the REXX / SDSF interfaces. The gateway is driven by XML. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock That's in 1.10? We may go to 1.10 sometime next year. It sort of depends on the economy. We've been told

Average Response time for DASD Subsystem

2008-10-02 Thread gsg
Does anyone know how to get the Avg. Response time for a DASD Subsystem? Is there anything in SMF that can provide this type of info? Sample JCL? I'm learning the hard way so any help is greatly appreciated. TIA -- For

Re: Average Response time for DASD Subsystem

2008-10-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Does anyone know how to get the Avg. Response time for a DASD Subsystem? Read your manuals. RMF has been around for over 30 years. Is there anything in SMF that can provide this type of info? Sample JCL? I'm learning the hard way so any help is greatly appreciated. Type74 This is basic.

Re: Information Only Console Buffers

2008-10-02 Thread Field, Alan C.
We have OSA-ICC consoles and we get WTO buffer shortages because the consoles get activated and then the PCs get shut off and the message buffers keep filling. So yes - it is still a problem. We're z/OS 1.8 Alan Subject: Information Only Console Buffers We are looking to deploy a number of