On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:35:57 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote:
>I'm impressed.
>I'm not sure what your point is, but you've made it!
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What I meant to explain is that when we use a solution to filter mail in a
company,the solution cannot re
Hello there!!
I would like to know if anyone knows about any Forums for discussing
Websphere MQ on ZOS platform. I am a CICS systems Programmer and would want
to extend my knowledge on MQ as well. Taking a new role :)
Can someone guide me please ??
Regards,
Yogeetha
CSC - Computer Science Corpor
Roland:
It's right!!!.
The module version in LPA was 2.2. We have done IPL with the new module in
LPA (ver 3.2) and now works.
Thanks a lot
Jorge
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If that is your scenario then you should be using 'unmount' for the
automove parameter. Noautomove can still leave entries in the global
mount table for these filesystems even though the system is down. That
is usually not a big issue unless you have the need to mount them on
another system for som
I guess I missed what this is in reply to...are we looking for catalog
services?
Mary Anne
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Mainframe Guy1 wrote:
> For what is worth I did see there's a company which provides master catalog
> mcnvtcat type services.
>
> http://www.systemsprogramminginc.com/
>
> -
On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 07:47 -0500, Mary Anne Matyaz wrote:
> I guess I missed what this is in reply to...are we looking for catalog
> services?
Ditto - I am also somewhat mystified.
Not to mention the freely available rcnvtcat on the cbt site. Written by
one of our own - in REXX.
It works just li
Basically these are system specific OMVS data sets. They would not be
mounted on any other system because that system already has these files. I
will look at UNMOUNT, however, there is no one trying to move these files.
It looks to me to be the system trying to do this. I get an IGW026I
indicati
Mark,
I have them defined in BPXPRMxx. They are all defined as RW. I have taken
all defaults.
So are you saying that unless needed all OMVS datasets should have R rather
than RW when they are not being updated?
Does this account for the operating system thinking it needs to automount or
autom
The only time that BPXPRMxx is used to mount a filesystem is at IPL
time, so unless the system that is trying to perform the mount is IPLing
then someone is trying to manually mount this filesystem. If it is at
IPL time you should be getting an 'BPXF237I FILE SYSTEM.Already
mounted' message, no
In a message dated 2/18/2009 6:47:50 A.M. Central Standard Time,
maryanne4...@gmail.com writes:
what this is in reply to...are we looking for catalog
services?
>>
Likewise, maybe it's off newsgroups? Been using Alastair Gray's RCNVTCAT off
file 542 CBT for years.
**A Good
I have two BPXPRMxx members. One is system wide, the second it system
specific.
Because we define these files with SYS1.OMVS.JV390.&SYSNAME we elected to
put them in BPXPRM00. This contains the generic names along with the BPX
options.
When we have a unix file that is system specific, we code
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:36:25 +0530, Yogeetha balasubramanian
wrote:
>Hello there!!
>
>I would like to know if anyone knows about any Forums for discussing
>Websphere MQ on ZOS platform. I am a CICS systems Programmer and would want
>to extend my knowledge on MQ as well. Taking a new role :)
>
>Ca
It looks like you have a good setup. I would agree with Mark that
anything that doesn't get updated should be mounted read/only and any
filesystems that contains executables should DEFINITELY be mounted
read/only for security reasons (so no one could intentionally or
accidentally update it).
If a
Considering I had never seen this email address before, I thought it might be a
lame attempt at stealth advertizing.
>>> Mary Anne Matyaz 2/18/2009 7:47 AM >>>
I guess I missed what this is in reply to...are we looking for catalog
services?
Mary Anne
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Mainframe G
Chuck,
I was remiss in not thanking you for the information. I really appreciated it.
Thanks again,
Fred
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Hello.
Can anyone explain why the following code snippet doesn't work as
expected? (This has prev gone to Google Groups, was advised to wait until
our z/OS upgrade from 1.7 to 1.9 had been completed - it has - but the
same thing still happens.)
I would expect it to leave the member with line
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:19:29 -0600, Field, Alan C. wrote:
>We've tried to manage the number of inits manually to balance the
>utilization but it's not easy.
>
>We're wondering about WLM inits for this class. Early experience with
>WLM inits wasn't positive.
I had great results with WLM initiato
Haven't tried that, but why not just doing:
"find xxx'
"locate 401"
"find xxx"
It will put the cursor on the start of the found string without changing the
screen position as the find value is in the LVLINed area.
ITschak
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Clark Pearson wrote:
> Hello.
>
> Can
Since you are using Client FTP in TSO, you need the TSO MOUNT privilege and
you need AUTOTAPEMOUNT specified in your FTP.DATA file. There are several
places where the FTP.DATA file can be found, make sure you get the correct
one.
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I keep getting Data base errors trying to list ETRs.
Is anyone else having this problem?
Lizette
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Agreed, a 50% hit rate is pretty bad, but a heck of a lot better than zero.
If you could somehow exclude the file from all caching, then I would expect a
drastic degradation of I/O performance.
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PS.
3270 works
Jon L. Veilleux
veilleu...@aetna.com
(860) 636-2683
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I keep
Me too:
An error has occurred:
An error occurred accessing the database: SPR0 10008
Jon L. Veilleux
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I just got off the phone with IBMLINK help desk. What an experience.
Many users are getting SPR0 1008 on the LIST ETR screen as well as others.
IBM is diligently working on this issue.
Lizette
>Subject: IBMLINK Issues?
>
>I keep getting Data base errors trying to list ETRs.
>
>Is anyone els
Same here.
MA
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Veilleux, Jon L wrote:
> Me too:
>
> An error has occurred:
> An error occurred accessing the database: SPR0 10008
>
>
> Jon L. Veilleux
> veilleu...@aetna.com
> (860) 636-2683
>
>
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Thanks Guys for your help
IN google i found this http://www.mqseries.net/ .
I think all these will help me a lot :)
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Scott Barry wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:36:25 +0530, Yogeetha balasubramanian
> wrote:
>
> >Hello there!!
> >
> >I would like to know if any
I need to bounce FTP. The P or C command does not stop the FTPD1 process.
So how do I stop the FTPD1 ASID.
I know it's some UNIX command, but I can't find it.
Where is this stuff documented?
Thanks from a non UNIX guy.
John Norgauer
Senior Systems Programmer
Mainframe Technical Support Serv
Not for me. When I tried to browse one of my ETR records using VM IBMLink,
I receive error message:
Your RETAIN user ID is invalid. . Please contact your RETAIN coordinator. .
Hmmm
Brian
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:50:09 -0500, Veilleux, Jon L wrote:
>PS.
>3270 works
>
>
>Jon L. Veilleux
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wrote:
>There is also the issue of using a BALR (or BASR) in lieu of
>instructions that do not need Base Registers (ie: Not allowing the
>macro to be used in a BASELESS program).
That's true. But BALR (as opposed to BAL) does not need a ba
John,
The P command should do it.
On my system, the D A,L command shows that the server is called FTPSERVE, so I
use P FTPSERVE to shut it down. S FTPSERVE (the name of my FTP Server proc)
starts it again.
FTPD1 must not be the correct name.
Gary DiPillo
Axios Products, Inc.
> I need t
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 07:22:54 -0500, Veilleux, Jon L
wrote:
>If that is your scenario then you should be using 'unmount' for the
>automove parameter. Noautomove can still leave entries in the global
>mount table for these filesystems even though the system is down. That
>is usually not a big issue
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:28:44 -0500, Lizette Koehler
wrote:
>Basically these are system specific OMVS data sets. They would not be
>mounted on any other system because that system already has these files. I
>will look at UNMOUNT, however, there is no one trying to move these files.
>It looks to
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:30:59 -0500, Lizette Koehler
wrote:
>Mark,
>
>I have them defined in BPXPRMxx. They are all defined as RW. I have taken
>all defaults.
>
>So are you saying that unless needed all OMVS datasets should have R rather
>than RW when they are not being updated?
You don't have
Got it to work. Must have had a typo.
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I am writing to a partitioned dataset via the EXECIO command.
The dataset is also currently in use by an active application, which causes
my EXECIO command to fail with "DATA SET IS ALLOCATED TO ANOTHER JOB
OR USER". Is there anway to get around this with execio?
I can manually edit and save the
try allocating with disp shr - default is old
"ALLOC F(INDD) da("dsnname") SHR"
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You can try:
"ALLOC F(INDD) da("dsnname") shr reuse"
But if the other application has exclusive, there could still be a
problem
Lucy Arnold
Storage Manager
U.C. Davis Medical Center
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>I am writing to a partitioned dataset via the EXECIO command.
>The dataset is also currently in use by an active application, which causes my
>EXECIO command to fail with "DATA SET IS ALLOCATED TO ANOTHER JOB OR USER".
>Is there anway to get around this with execio?
There is a reason to do this.
Maria,
You may need to add a DISP(SHR) to your ALLOC. I also do not see where
you are updating a particular member, that could also be a problem. I do
not know the exact syntax for updating a member, but would be worth you
while to investigate it.
Just my 2 cents worth.
HTH
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This is a first for me.. so, I ask the Group if there is a way to know when a
Alias was defined and/or any history of its last referenced date to more or
less
get an idea of when it was last allocated.
any example would be appreciated.
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I am trying to help a friend create some OPS/MVS Rule to read the STCTBL and
retrieve only those entries that begin with CICS on LPARx.
I know in SQL you can code
Select * from STCBL
Where name like 'CICS'
However I am not finding something similar in OPS/MVS Rexx.
Any body point me in the
Rick,
You may find that Sequential IO cache benefits are something of an illusion.
While cache is involved, the benefit actually comes from the pre-fetch
process, where the storage controller is fetching tracks asynchronous to the
host requests and staying ahead of the next host request. Even thou
I think the answer is NO. There is no date tracking on Alias that I am aware
of.
You could try to spin SMF data as far back as possible to see when the first
dataset under that alias was created.
However, the second part, an alias is only used to find the right catalog for a
data set to be cr
Based on other posts and my RTFM, the DISP(SHR) is incorrect, you just
need to add SHR to you ALLOC. I apologize for the faux paus in the
syntax.
Maria,
You may need to add a DISP(SHR) to your ALLOC. I also do not see where
you are updating a particular member, that could also be a problem. I do
The only information that I have is the Alias. Nothing More.. tried smf and
nothing. It looks that I will have to delete and see if anyone screams.
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The purpose behind cache is to reduce the amount of time elapsed between
issuing a read request and having data to process. If the data to be
read is in cache because someone just read or wrote it or the controller
was doing sequential read ahead, I do not care. I did not have to wait
on the slow D
Never delete, just rename In case you really do need it.
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The only informati
If you are sure there are no datasets under the alias.
And there are no jobs that try to create ALIAS.?? datasets that are temporary
and are deleted just as quickly as they are created.
I would do a LISTC ENT(alias) and print that off just incase I would have to
recreate the alias back.
Lizet
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:12:15 -0600, Arturo wrote:
>The only information that I have is the Alias. Nothing More.. tried smf and
>nothing. It looks that I will have to delete and see if anyone screams.
If it is an ordinary alias and there are no data sets cataloged, you might
be safe to delete it.
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:34:23 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote:
>>I am writing to a partitioned dataset via the EXECIO command.
>>The dataset is also currently in use by an active application, which
causes my EXECIO command to fail with "DATA SET IS ALLOCATED TO ANOTHER JOB
OR USER".
>>Is there anway to g
I don't have 1.10 running yet, but someone reported to me that my
RXSTOR64 exec told them to "call home". I have a check in there for
in a subroutine that converts memory amounts to their largest
possible unit.
FORMAT_MEMSIZE:
/***
You didn't specify disposition. it defaulted to OLD. Try 'SHR' at the end of
the alloc statement.
ITschak
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 8:13 PM, Maria Brown wrote:
> I am writing to a partitioned dataset via the EXECIO command.
> The dataset is also currently in use by an active application, which ca
> disagree with Ted that you've been "lucky" with ISPF edit since it does use
> an ENQ to protect on a member level basis. But that only works if everyone
> plays by those rules.
As recently as z/OS 1.4, I have seen two people corrupt members using ISPF with
different member names.
>Also ther
As far as I know, the only date information you can get is to list the
ALIAS entry in the catalog and see when it was defined. If you can find
any datasets defined under that alias, you can use the Dataset Audit
Facility from the CBT site to look through SMF for references. A VTOC
list or simil
Thank you all for your reply's.. I checked with the RACF group (as Tom
mentioned) and they were able to tell me when they were created/given
access. Again Thank you.
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I suppose so, but you really don't want to do that. You are being stopped from
a very good likelihood of corrupting the file.
DISP OLD is appropriate unless you have some other exclusivity mechanism to
serialize updates.
I'm not sure, but I think your REXX would completely destroy the target
Cool! Thanks for everyone help!
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 11:38:33 -0500, Gary DiPillo
wrote:
>John,
>
>The P command should do it.
>
>On my system, the D A,L command shows that the server is called
>FTPSERVE, so I use P FTPSERVE to shut it down. S FTPSERVE (the
>name of my FTP Server proc) starts it again.
>...
A side comment (
Interesting! Haven't seen or heard of this in years and years. I see a 'member
in use' message just trying to open the member in a second instance of ISPF
edit in the same session or different user.
AFAIK, when you open a member in ISPF, it is with update intent and a sysplex
wide exclusive e
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>Interesting! Haven't seen or heard of this in years and years. I see a 'member
>in use' message just trying to open the member in a second instance of ISPF
>edit in the same session or different user.
The issue is if the member name is different.
>AFAIK, when you open a member in ISPF, it is
Sorry Ted, but I believe you are wrong again. I just did a test based on the
exact situation you outlined, and had no problem whatsoever (as I expected).
>>> Ted MacNEIL 2/18/2009 3:11 PM >>>
> disagree with Ted that you've been "lucky" with ISPF edit since it does use
> an ENQ to protect on a
You could probably use the below somehow. The manuals on the CA website are
quite good, so I'd check those first.
table = 'SWZ_STCTBL'
ADDRESS SQL
"SELECT NAME INTO :TASK FROM "table" WHERE CURRENT_STATE = 'UP'"
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:11:53 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote:
>> disagree with Ted that you've been "lucky" with ISPF edit since it does
use an ENQ to protect on a member level basis. But that only works if
everyone plays by those rules.
>
>As recently as z/OS 1.4, I have seen two people corrupt member
>Sorry Ted, but I believe you are wrong again. I just did a test based on the
>exact situation you outlined, and had no problem whatsoever (as I expected).
Fine.
I did it with ISPF EDIT (1.4, two systems, two members, a single PDS) two
users, one saved then the other did.
This is not a memory
To be fair, I don't think Ted is 'wrong'. He is simply reporting observed
behaviors of his system. Many of us seem to be of the opinion that Ted's system
is malfunctioning or misconfigured.
I believe Ted to be describing an environment where GRS (or equivalent) needs
some attention. I suppose
Thank you for that.
What is missing?
It was a 4000 MIPS 5-image SYSPLEX with two members running TSO.
We had many PDS member issues.
Plus, many SMSPDSE 'corrupt' messages issued.
I'm more of a performance/capacity type, and haven't used SMP, since SMP4.
I am not trying to mislead, but I've been a
PDSE corruption is a different issue. Plenty on that in the archives. SMP/E is
not relevant to this context AFAICT.
To diagnose the PDS corruption issue, I'd start in my GRS parms.
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>
>
> I would expect it to leave the member with line 401 at the
> top, and the
> cursor on line 412, pos21. The FIND string is on line 412 -
> I want the
> cursor to stay with the FOUND string, but to change the line
> that appears
> at the top of the display.
>
> /* rexx */
> address i
Agreed, if the proper QNAMES were not being propagated then this type of thing
could occur, but that is a configuration problem, not a code problem.
>>> Hal Merritt 2/18/2009 5:17 PM >>>
PDSE corruption is a different issue. Plenty on that in the archives. SMP/E is
not relevant to this context
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 20:11:53 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote:
>
>>Also there has been some extra protection for a *long* time that keeps two
>>tasks from opening a PDS for output (IEC143I 213-30 abend).
>
>When you edit a PDS member, the file is not open for output. The member is
>just a memory copy.
>I
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:33:07 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote:
>On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:34:23 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote:
>
>I disagree with Ted that you've been "lucky" with ISPF edit since it
>does use an ENQ to protect on a member level basis. But that only works
>if everyone plays by those rules. Als
My test was:
1. Two users open the same PDS (note: no E).
2. Select X; Select Y (one for each user)
3. Type something.
4. One save; two save.
Whomever saved second 'WON'.
I have not tried since z/OS 1.4, two years ago.
So, what ENQ's do I need?
We tried on the same system, and on separate systems
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My test was:
1. Two users open the same PDS (note: no E).
2. Select X; Select Y (one for ea
>mmm. If two users edit the same member of a Classic PDS (not PDSE)
Please NOTE!
I NEVER said the same member!
I went out of my way to say DIFFERENT members.
My comments & example were all about DIFFERENT!!
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I tried with two ids, same pds, different members, same monoplex with no
surprising results. Both members were updated as expected.
I tried with same id value, same pds on shared dasd, different members,
different monplexes with no surprising results. Both members were
updated as expected.
z/OS 1.
>I tried with two ids, same pds, different members, same monoplex with no
surprising results.
Please tell me what's changed!
I did this, and got bad results.
I'm surprised, since on 1.4, I got what I said.
What did I do wrong?
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Hi
I am looking for a program solution to check if a job is waiting in the input
queue.
Does any one have a programatic solution using rexx or assembler?
Or any manual I can get the information ?
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Al
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Do you have JES2 or JES3?
You can use the ST command in TSO to look though you may need to add a
modification to see any job. Do you need something for batch and
foreground?
What will you do should you find a job waiting on the input queue? What is
the over all intent of your process?
Lizette
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:34:56 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote:
>>I tried with two ids, same pds, different members, same monoplex with no
>surprising results.
>
>Please tell me what's changed!
OPEN.
>
>I did this, and got bad results.
>I'm surprised, since on 1.4, I got what I said.
>What did I do wron
Okay!
I surrender!
It wasn't there, at the time.
We blew the files off the map!
Sorry, but it happened!
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