Re: OMVS data not found in dump

2009-07-02 Thread K Zafirop
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Re: SMPE usermod sample

2009-07-02 Thread Skip Robinson
I agree with Gil that by far the most important effect of a usermod based on an IBM-supplied element to force a 'modid error' in case the original element is ever hit by a PTF. There may be multiple ways to get the user element installed as desired in a single step. Whatever. Here's an example of h

Re: ERASEDATA - DASD disposal

2009-07-02 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 18:20 -0500 on 07/02/2009, Paul Gilmartin wrote about Re: ERASEDATA - DASD disposal: The cited article and its followups point out that it's a greater concern to erase all temporary copies of the file (how often do you S(ave) during an E(dit) session?) This issue is handled by doing an "Er

Re: IBM 7060-H30

2009-07-02 Thread Tony Harminc
2009/7/2 Adams, Tracy : > > While I am cleaning out my DR room... I also have an IBM 7060 H30, $1 > plus shipping and packaging.  Please respond to me directly. One in Florida sold on eBay just recently for US $515, with 4 serious bidders (it started at $99). Item 220436063530, and from the pictur

Re: SMPE usermod sample

2009-07-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 20:47:47 -0400, Jeffery Swagger wrote: >Yes, but this strikes me as incomplete. > >I did try an APPLY CHECK of the proposed USERMOD (minus the JCLIN) and >it appeared to produce the desired result. >In that a ++EXEC element would be created (target library SISPEXEC) with >an ALI

Re: job started with SUB=MSTR without the owner information

2009-07-02 Thread Tommy Tsui
Hi all, Since we defined following statement to protect our LU on mainframe, APPC cannot access the PRDLU01 becuase without owner information, is there anyone have same problem? RDEFINE VTAMAPPL PRDLU01 UACC(NONE) OWNER(SYS1) PERMIT PRDLU01 CLASS(VTAMAPPL) ID(P428501) Thanks and regards On Sun

Re: SMPE usermod sample

2009-07-02 Thread Jeffery Swagger
Yes, but this strikes me as incomplete. I did try an APPLY CHECK of the proposed USERMOD (minus the JCLIN) and it appeared to produce the desired result. In that a ++EXEC element would be created (target library SISPEXEC) with an ALIAS of ONLY copied from SISPSAMP. However, here's the problem. T

Re: ERASEDATA - DASD disposal

2009-07-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 16:49:24 -0500, Tom Harper wrote: >Gerhard, > >According to this source, that theory [track edge residue] >is in question: > >http://www.h-online.com/security/Secure-deletion-a-single-overwrite-will-do-it--/news/112432 > >(watch the wrap). > Thanks. I long wondered, given that d

Re: ERASEDATA - DASD disposal

2009-07-02 Thread Tom Harper
Gerhard, According to this source, that theory is in question: http://www.h-online.com/security/Secure-deletion-a-single-overwrite-will -do-it--/news/112432 (watch the wrap). Tom Harper IMS Utilities Development Team Neon Enterprise Software Sugar Land, TX -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: IBM Red Alert, July 02, 2009

2009-07-02 Thread Anthony Fletcher
APAR OA28473 had a PTF for z/OS 1.10 (UA47631) as well as the PTFs for z/OS 1.9 and 1.8. UA47631 is not marked PE. This may be valid because the z/OS 1.10 code would have to have additional processing for EAV - but what if it should have been marked PE as well? Has anyone asked IBM to confirm t

Re: ERASEDATA - DASD disposal

2009-07-02 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
Eric Bielefeld wrote: I always wondered if it was possible to read data if binary zeros or some other pattern were written to the disk. I thought that it would be very hard, which the article quoted seemed to agree with. But then, I noticed that the writer of the article didn't sign his name.

Re: IBM Red Alert, July 02, 2009

2009-07-02 Thread Michael R. Mayne
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Re: Converting CPU Time to MIPS

2009-07-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>We are working in a management context so it's best to use words the same way >they do. I disagree with that. Are you telling me that 'management context' is allowed to be technically inaccurate? It's one thing to 'dumb it down'; it's another to be wrong. - Too busy driving to stop for gas!

Re: My "Green Screen" IBMLink is still working

2009-07-02 Thread Edward Jaffe
Gibney, Dave wrote: View an ETR record Record 03197,550,000 I've been updating ETRs all day! 8-) -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -

Re: IBM Red Alert, July 02, 2009

2009-07-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 14:30:37 -0500, Michael R. Mayne wrote: > >HSM may expire and delete VSAM data sets because of an invalid creation >date caused by a DSS RESTORE or HSM RECALL/RECOVER of a VSAM data sets. >This occurs after the application of PTF's UA46732/UA47067 for z/OS 1.8 >or PTF's UA46733/U

Re: ERASEDATA - DASD disposal

2009-07-02 Thread Linda Mooney
Thanks, Matthew!  I'll have a look at the REVAL Linda - Original Message - From: "Matthew Stitt" To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 3:33:02 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: ERASEDATA - DASD disposal The last time I needed to perform this functio

Re: JES 2 Output limiting

2009-07-02 Thread Rick Fochtman
Hal Merritt wrote: Is there a JES parameter that will abend a job that exceeds some output threshold? I looked at ESTBYTE, but I want to positively, absolutely *NOT* affect started tasks. Only ordinary batch jobs. The doc was not clear on this point. Thanks. NOTICE: This electronic mail mes

Re: Converting CPU Time to MIPS

2009-07-02 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 17:26:03 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >>one MIP > >It's one MIPS. >The "s" is not pluralising the word it stands for "second". > >The plural is imbedded in the "i": "instructionS". > Ah, but do the medias report that the datas affirm that usage? -- gil ---

Re: Converting CPU Time to MIPS

2009-07-02 Thread Hal Merritt
MIP = 'meaningless indication of power'. Singular, plural, or rate is just as meaningless. :-) You will hear management and sales folks drop the 's' inappropriately: "This a 100 MIP box". We are working in a management context so it's best to use words the same way they do. Besides, I was try

IBM Red Alert, July 02, 2009

2009-07-02 Thread Michael R. Mayne
o identify data sets that may have been affected. Recommended Actions: Please apply fix for OA29102 to prevent the problem. --- Link: http://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/set2/sas/f/redAlerts/20090702.html Could get ugly... -Mike

Re: Offload work to ziip

2009-07-02 Thread Ken Porowski
This was called NALC (New Application License Charge) which was meant to ease the pain of adding a lot of MIPS for a specific application (generally a hog) like SAP, PeopleSoft, and the like. Only certain applications/work was acceptable and you were not allowed to run a 'classic' workload (e.g.

Re: Offload work to ziip

2009-07-02 Thread Jose Correa Saldeño
Have some one installed already this product? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Finnell Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Offload work to ziip In a message dated 7/2/2009 9:36:

Re: My "Green Screen" IBMLink is still working

2009-07-02 Thread Gibney, Dave
View an ETR record Record 03197,550,000 Click on an action button to revise, complete, or assign this record. Abstract Web ibmlink error/VM ibmlink gone User keyword None Status Open Responsible IBM Type Software problem Severity 3 CPU device type No

Re: My "Green Screen" IBMLink is still working

2009-07-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>But it's newer; therefore "by definition" it's "better". The two worst fallacies: 1. This is old, therefore bad. 2. This is new, therefore better. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: Antwort: Command program from the cbt

2009-07-02 Thread Skip Robinson
Similar advice as for the 'S222' thread. Consider that the user-supplied authorization routine could well be issuing an 'S913' abend. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.ro

Re: My "Green Screen" IBMLink is still working

2009-07-02 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Gibney, Dave > > >And the Web is slower than the proverbial molasses in January :( But it's newer; therefore "by definition" it's "better". -jc- -

Re: My "Green Screen" IBMLink is still working

2009-07-02 Thread Gibney, Dave
Plus: An error has occurred: An error occurred accessing the database: -911 40001 Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, sen

Re: My "Green Screen" IBMLink is still working

2009-07-02 Thread Gibney, Dave
And the Web is slower than the proverbial molasses in January :( Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...

Re: S222 abends and Reason Codes

2009-07-02 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 12:49:57 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: > >Ask them if their Assembler source code contains this ABEND macro coded >more or less like this example: > >ABEND 222,REASON=,,, For an S222, that would be ABEND X'222',REASON=,,,SYSTEM or ABEND 546,REASON=,,,SYSTEM --

Re: Install z/OS from scratch

2009-07-02 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/2/2009 12:14:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time, sipu...@georgetown.edu writes: Why is Step 3, the ICKDSF init necessary? What would happen if you tried to skip it? >> Fails on UNINIT'd volume **Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the gri

Re: My "Green Screen" IBMLink is still working

2009-07-02 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/2/2009 10:26:46 A.M. Central Daylight Time, oldti...@wanadoo.fr writes: They lost the key of the computer room where it was hosted >> Probably not on minidisk they shutdown. We had VM image up for several months(over 14) and a bad squirrel strike and UPS failure caus

Re: S222 abends and Reason Codes

2009-07-02 Thread Skip Robinson
Just so we're clear: it is quite possible (you can decide whether 'legitimate') to code an S222 on an abend macro in any program. Just because an application takes a deliberate dive, that doesn't make the abend 'user'. The code gets reported according to how the macro is coded, not on circumstances

Re: Install z/OS from scratch

2009-07-02 Thread Schwarz, Barry A
Check Appendix B of your ICKDSF manual. -Original Message- From: Thomas Sipusic Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 10:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Install z/OS from scratch On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:26:36 EDT, Ed Finnell wrote: [snip] >>> >This is a good exercise for Cold Site

Re: Offload work to ziip

2009-07-02 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I have always thought that software pricing on z/OS is ridiculous. There are way too many options. I suspect that if IBM had drastically cut software costs on the MVS platform, there would be hundreds of thousands of mainframes out there, instead of maybe 10 to 20,000 mainframes. I just talk

Re: Offload work to ziip

2009-07-02 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/2/2009 9:36:56 A.M. Central Daylight Time, david.jou...@53.com writes: I'm not saying it is right. But this is the Pandora's box that Neon seems to be opening. In reality, a large company would most likely be >> Idle speculation 'til the suits sort it out. *

Re: $DJOBCLASS(n) (was Re: How to convince not to over initiate?)

2009-07-02 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 16:17:55 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: >Anyone try to display XEQCOUNT on z/OS 1.9 or z/OS 1.10? I know on z/OS 1.8 >$DJOBCLASS(n) showed it... or at least $DJOBCLASS(n),LONG. > >XEQCOUNT doesn't display unless you specifically ask for it, for example: > >$DJOBCLASS(A),XEQCOUNT >

Re: ERASEDATA - DASD disposal

2009-07-02 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I always wondered if it was possible to read data if binary zeros or some other pattern were written to the disk. I thought that it would be very hard, which the article quoted seemed to agree with. But then, I noticed that the writer of the article didn't sign his name. Eric Bielefeld Sr. S

Re: Converting CPU Time to MIPS

2009-07-02 Thread Kirk Wolf
Pretty funny, but if that analogy doesn't work, then tell them that CPUs are like spigots, and applications are like guys standing around with one or more buckets.If they start to get that, then quickly switch analogies - maybe we can compile a list? :-) On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Tom M

Re: S222 abends and Reason Codes

2009-07-02 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Lizette Koehler They are researching an internal S222 abend. It came with a reason code. >Now, I have seen S222 due to OPER Cancel commands, but I am not familiar with S222 abends that are issued internally and with a reason code. >Would I be correct in assuming that I need the person that wrot

Re: Converting CPU Time to MIPS

2009-07-02 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>one MIP It's one MIPS. The "s" is not pluralising the word it stands for "second". The plural is imbedded in the "i": "instructionS". - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access ins

Re: Converting CPU Time to MIPS

2009-07-02 Thread Ramiro Camposagrado
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:30:48 -0500, Hal Merritt wrote: >They don't really want to know MIPS. They want to know money. That is, how much does it cost to run transaction x. > >Perhaps expressing the CPU consumption as a percentage of the box's capacity would answer the question. Each engine has a

Re: S222 abends and Reason Codes

2009-07-02 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:40:12 -0600, Roach, Dennis (N-GHG) wrote: >This is not an S222, it is a U222. Major difference. Of course I knew that. I've worked on this platform for a little while. :-)Read what I wrote again: > "I have also seen user 222 abends (poor choice of a number IMHO)."

Re: Install z/OS from scratch

2009-07-02 Thread Thomas Sipusic
On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 09:26:36 EDT, Ed Finnell wrote: [snip] >>> >This is a good exercise for Cold Site planning as well. > >1)From SE use stand-alone IOCP to import text and make IOCDS > that defines basic system of tapes, dasd and consoles to run > the driver system. > >2)Have to configure

Re: My "Green Screen" IBMLink is still working

2009-07-02 Thread Gibney, Dave
I was going to use a "Another one bites the dust" subject for a note on this subject. I was logged on yesterday, lost the session and now the "nice" message. Dave Gibney Information Technology Services Washington State University > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion Li

Re: S222 abends and Reason Codes

2009-07-02 Thread Roach, Dennis (N-GHG)
This is not an S222, it is a U222. Major difference. If this is a vendor application the check the vender documentation and then call the vendor. If it is an in-house application, turn it over to the application programming team. Dennis Roach GHG Corporation Lockheed Martin Mission Services Facili

Re: Converting CPU Time to MIPS

2009-07-02 Thread Hal Merritt
They don't really want to know MIPS. They want to know money. That is, how much does it cost to run transaction x. Perhaps expressing the CPU consumption as a percentage of the box's capacity would answer the question. Each engine has a fixed capacity of one CPU second per clock second, but th

Re: My "Green Screen" IBMLink is still working

2009-07-02 Thread Edward Jaffe
Chase, John wrote: Perhaps it's just ServiceLink that has stopped. I just logged in successfully, but got this when I tried to browse my ETRs: === Begin paste ATTENTION! - ServiceLink access stopped on July 2, 2009. My SIS is still working. Everything is still workin

Re: Command program from the cbt

2009-07-02 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 11:09:34 -0500, Chase, John wrote: >> CLC RACROUTE+4(4),=F'0' TEST THE REASON CODE >> BEEXTRACT ZERO, AUTHORIZED >> NOTAUTH WTO 'CMD913E UNAUTHORIZED USE OF THE COMMAND PROGRAM - JOB >AX >>BORTED',ROUTCDE=(2,11) >>

Re: Command program from the cbt

2009-07-02 Thread Klein, Kenneth
Yes, I was way off base chasing the RACF problem. Turns out, somebody coded up a little program that goes out and checks a hard coded list of user names to see who should get to run the program. Ken Klein Sr. Systems Programmer Kentucky Farm Bureau Insurance - Louisville kenneth.kl...@kyfb.com

Re: S222 abends and Reason Codes

2009-07-02 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:57:27 -0500, McKown, John wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List >> [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler >> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 10:54 AM >> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu >> Subject: S222 abends and Reason Codes

Re: Converting CPU Time to MIPS

2009-07-02 Thread McKown, John
I agree that this is meaningless. However, there are two times available to you in a CICS transaction. The CPU used and the elapsed time. Now, if you divide the CPU used by the elapsed, you will get a measure of "how hard" this particular transaction can drive the machine. IMO, any transaction t

Re: My "Green Screen" IBMLink is still working

2009-07-02 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe > > Today is the day the IBMLink 3270 interface is supposed to no longer > work. But, I've been logged on since Monday and it's still up. Am I on > borrowed time? Perhaps it's just ServiceLink that has st

Re: Converting CPU Time to MIPS

2009-07-02 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:25:31 -0500, Ramiro Camposagrado wrote: >Management is trying to cut and save CPU cost. So they came up with >this "Cost Avoidance Committee". (Primarily consisting of uper management). >Now they want us to somehow equate the CPU Time consumed (primarily by a >CICS transactio

Re: Command program from the cbt

2009-07-02 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Zelden > > On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:15:28 -0400, Klein, Kenneth > wrote: > > > No, that's why the RACF guy tells me it's not his problem. No RACF > >messages. Just the cmd913e error message from the command program

Re: ERASEDATA - DASD disposal

2009-07-02 Thread Norbert Friemel
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:36:08 +, Linda Mooney wrote: > Do you consider the 4 passes with TRKFMT enough to be sure that the  data is really gone? http://www.h-online.com/security/news/112432 Norbert Friemel -- For IBM-MAI

Re: S222 abends and Reason Codes

2009-07-02 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 10:54 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: S222 abends and Reason Codes > > Someone asked this and I did not know where to look. > >

Re: Converting CPU Time to MIPS

2009-07-02 Thread Ramiro Camposagrado
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:37:43 -0500, Jeffrey Deaver wrote: >> "Cost Avoidance Committee" > >What is the ultimate goal of the committee? Are you attempting to stave >off a CPU upgrade? Are you looking to actually decrease the size of your >current configuration? You're most likely locked into a

S222 abends and Reason Codes

2009-07-02 Thread Lizette Koehler
Someone asked this and I did not know where to look. They are researching an internal S222 abend. It came with a reason code. Now, I have seen S222 due to OPER Cancel commands, but I am not familiar with S222 abends that are issued internally and with a reason code. Would I be correct in assum

Re: My "Green Screen" IBMLink is still working

2009-07-02 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:07:07 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: >Today is the day the IBMLink 3270 interface is supposed to no longer >work. But, I've been logged on since Monday and it's still up. Am I on >borrowed time? > My ID has said "revoked" for a while when I select IBMLINK from the menu. I jus

Re: JES 2 Output limiting

2009-07-02 Thread Staller, Allan
Look at the OPT parameter of ESTLINE/ESTBYTE/ESTPAGE. In conjunction w/J2EXIT9 you should be able to do what you want. HTH, Is there a JES parameter that will abend a job that exceeds some output threshold? I looked at ESTBYTE, but I want to positively, absolutely *NOT* affect started tasks. O

Re: Converting CPU Time to MIPS

2009-07-02 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
> "Cost Avoidance Committee" What is the ultimate goal of the committee? Are you attempting to stave off a CPU upgrade? Are you looking to actually decrease the size of your current configuration? You're most likely locked into a lease or own your mainframe, so you've already "sunk" the money

JES 2 Output limiting

2009-07-02 Thread Hal Merritt
Is there a JES parameter that will abend a job that exceeds some output threshold? I looked at ESTBYTE, but I want to positively, absolutely *NOT* affect started tasks. Only ordinary batch jobs. The doc was not clear on this point. Thanks. NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files tra

Re: My "Green Screen" IBMLink is still working

2009-07-02 Thread Field, Alan C.
Are you sure? If it try SIS, SRD I get this: ATTENTION! - ServiceLink access stopped on July 2, 2009. Access to ServiceLink v

Converting CPU Time to MIPS

2009-07-02 Thread Ramiro Camposagrado
Management is trying to cut and save CPU cost. So they came up with this "Cost Avoidance Committee". (Primarily consisting of uper management). Now they want us to somehow equate the CPU Time consumed (primarily by a CICS transaction) and equate that into MIPS. I know that folks have come up wi

Re: My "Green Screen" IBMLink is still working

2009-07-02 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:07:07 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: >Today is the day the IBMLink 3270 interface is supposed to no longer >work. But, I've been logged on since Monday and it's still up. Am I on >borrowed time? > >-- Nah They lost the key of the computer room where it was hosted :-)) Bruno S

My "Green Screen" IBMLink is still working

2009-07-02 Thread Edward Jaffe
Today is the day the IBMLink 3270 interface is supposed to no longer work. But, I've been logged on since Monday and it's still up. Am I on borrowed time? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenix

Re: Offload work to ziip

2009-07-02 Thread Martin Kline
>I'm not saying it is right. But this is the Pandora's box that Neon >seems to be opening. In reality, a large company would most likely be >much more subtle, and add additional capacity as ZxxP engines instead of >GP's, and stay under the radar so to speak. Interesting discussion. A few bit-wis

Re: Command program from the cbt

2009-07-02 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Ken, Because the IDFIND routine is invoked via a CALL macro which generates a V(CON) for IDFIND, that routine must be linkedited into the load module. If the module source isn't in the same program, I would look in the LKED JCL for the list of objects pulled in, and find the source. My guess is

Re: Command program from the cbt

2009-07-02 Thread Klein, Kenneth
thanks to all who are offering up the good clues!! The source here may have been modified by a previous systems guy. This part of the code is where I'm getting booted I think. I know I'm getting the cmd107i message and then the message from the NOTAUTH routine. What is this IDFIND routine?? FI

Re: Offload work to ziip

2009-07-02 Thread Jousma, David
I'm not saying it is right. But this is the Pandora's box that Neon seems to be opening. In reality, a large company would most likely be much more subtle, and add additional capacity as ZxxP engines instead of GP's, and stay under the radar so to speak. _

Ron Northrup is out of the office.

2009-07-02 Thread Ronald Northrup
I will be out of the office starting 07/01/2009 and will not return until 07/07/2009. I will respond to your communication when I return. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@

Re: Offload work to ziip

2009-07-02 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/2/2009 9:22:23 A.M. Central Daylight Time, david.jou...@53.com writes: you cut that in half to 5 GP's, and buy 5 ZxxP's. You probably more than cut your software bill in half. >> Unless IBM decides that if you have this configuration you're charged at full rate for S

Re: Command program from the cbt

2009-07-02 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 10:15:28 -0400, Klein, Kenneth wrote: > No, that's why the RACF guy tells me it's not his problem. No RACF >messages. Just the cmd913e error message from the command program. I can >see in the code that he does a rackroute and the BH command sends >control straight to the error

Re: Command program from the cbt

2009-07-02 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - From: "Klein, Kenneth" Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 10:18 AM Subject: Re: Command program from the cbt No, that's why the RACF guy tells me it's not his problem. No RACF messages. Just the cmd913e error message from the command p

Re: Antwort: Command program from the cbt

2009-07-02 Thread James Robinson
Also, a failing RACHECK should have issued a SMF type 80 record. That might tell you what resource is complaining. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Kelly Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 10:26 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu S

Re: Antwort: Command program from the cbt

2009-07-02 Thread John Kelly
CMD107I SAFRC04: USING SECONDARY CHECK CMD913E UNAUTHORIZED USE OF THE COMMAND PROGRAM - JOB ABORTED Check the 'command' program, it's issuing the message. Sounds like it has multiple SAF calls and you're in neither. Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office) --

Re: Offload work to ziip

2009-07-02 Thread Jousma, David
Could be, but lets say you are a 10-way GP processor now. If true, if you cut that in half to 5 GP's, and buy 5 ZxxP's. You probably more than cut your software bill in half. _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Service

Re: Antwort: Command program from the cbt

2009-07-02 Thread Klein, Kenneth
Leider nicht der Fall. these are the only messages from the job. How do I set up UAUDIT? - 01 JUL 2009 JOB EXECUTION DATE -9 CARDS READ - 42 SYSOUT PRINT RECORDS -0 SYSOUT PUNCH RECORDS -3 SYSOUT SPOOL KBYTES - 0.00 MINUTES EXECUTION TIM

Re: Command program from the cbt

2009-07-02 Thread Klein, Kenneth
No, that's why the RACF guy tells me it's not his problem. No RACF messages. Just the cmd913e error message from the command program. I can see in the code that he does a rackroute and the BH command sends control straight to the error message and abends. Ken Klein Sr. Systems Programmer Kentuc

Re: How to convince not to over initiate?

2009-07-02 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 06:38:17 -0500, Barbara Nitz wrote: >... Not having the command ready to make it JES-managed again The easiest way to change most job class attributes in JES2 is to use the JC panel in SDSF. -- Tom Marchant

Re: z/os omvs maintenance service and hfs/zfs

2009-07-02 Thread Arthur Gutowski
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 11:22:16 -0400, Klein, Kenneth wrote: >Thanks, good advice. It's working now. What is this "automount >management" all about? I picked off some good info from this thread, too. Lots of smart people here. As for automount, take a look at z/OS Unix System Servies Planning (wa

Re: Offload work to ziip

2009-07-02 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:34:17 -0500, McKown, John wrote: > >True: sum(zIIPS)+sum(zAAPs) <= sum(CPs). > >I am wondering if I could have, say, 4 CPs, 2 zIIPS, and 2 zAAPs and then make an LPAR which only has 1 CP, but all four of the speciality engines. How about an LPAR with all 4 CPs, 2 zIIPS, and 2

Re: Offload work to ziip

2009-07-02 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld > > Isn't there a requirement that you have at least as many regular CPs as the > total of ziip and zaap engines? I don't think you can buy just one regular > engine, and then have say 4 ziips zaaps or

Re: Offload work to ziip

2009-07-02 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 8:25 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Offload work to ziip > > Isn't there a requirement that you have at least as many > reg

Re: IBM 7060-H30

2009-07-02 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Tracy, I was going to email you and find out where your 7060 was located, but then I looked for your web site and found out you are in Vermont. I would be interested in an H30, and it would fit in my car, but Vermont is a long way from Milwaukee. Also, there is the minor problem of z/OS soft

Re: How to convince not to over initiate?

2009-07-02 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 06:38:17 -0500, Barbara Nitz wrote: >WLM- Initiators: >Someone here had changed the 'sysprog class' (the only one open right after >IPL) to WLM-managed (and didn't care about the serviceclass). > >IPL'd of one system in order to upgrade a database to a new release. Used the >cl

Re: Offload work to ziip

2009-07-02 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Isn't there a requirement that you have at least as many regular CPs as the total of ziip and zaap engines? I don't think you can buy just one regular engine, and then have say 4 ziips zaaps or whatever. Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer Milwaukee, Wisconsin 414-475-7434 - Original M

Re: Offload work to ziip

2009-07-02 Thread Shane Ginnane
> Isn't there something in the licensing that preclude reverse > engineering? Strictly speaking you don't need to reverse engineer anything - the Linux crowd proved that with SMB and the TiVo. I sat in on a talk by the folks that did both - smart bastards then Aussies ... Treat it like a black box

Re: Offload work to ziip

2009-07-02 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shane > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 4:06 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Offload work to ziip > > I can't be the only (non-ISV) customer sysprog that has thought "I >

Re: Offload work to ziip

2009-07-02 Thread Staller, Allan
Of course, now that the cat is out of the bag, since this is not a GUPI, expect Big Blue to change something so it will no longer work! Isn't there something in the licensing that preclude reverse engineering? >From zPrime press release > > NEON zPrime is 100 percent compliant with IBM specific

Re: How to convince not to over initiate?

2009-07-02 Thread Staller, Allan
Sounds to me to be more of an installation configuration issue, not a problem w/WLM inits. I am not going to second guess the way you operate, but in order to handle this you can use SYSAFF or WLM Scheduling Environments. ... It took me quite a while to figure out that the job had been routed

Re: IBM 2074

2009-07-02 Thread Steve R Wolf
We also have on available for sale - finally retired a 9672-RA5 Regards, Listen. Think. Solve. Steve Wolf Rockwell Automation 414-382-4308 Victor Presher Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 07/01/2009 10:30 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc

Re: IBM 7060-H30

2009-07-02 Thread Shane Ginnane
> While I am cleaning out my DR room... I also have an IBM 7060 H30, > $1 plus shipping and packaging. And I have a H50 that's probably not even worth that much. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access ins

IBM 7060-H30

2009-07-02 Thread Adams, Tracy
While I am cleaning out my DR room... I also have an IBM 7060 H30, $1 plus shipping and packaging. Please respond to me directly. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@ba

Re: ERASEDATA - DASD disposal

2009-07-02 Thread Shane Ginnane
On Thu, Jul 2nd, 2009 at 10:13 PM, Jim Marshall wrote: > It really depends on your definition of "Wiped Clean". No amount of > passes will get rid of the data where it could not be recovered. > Have to measure the worth of the data if someone "really, really" > wanted to recover it. My attitude

Re: IODF / IOCP graphical presentation?

2009-07-02 Thread Jim Marshall
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 05:27:53 -0500, Bjarni Hauksson wrote: >I am using IBM Hardware Configuration Manager to day. Mainly to have >graphical presentation of the physical IO configuration and labeling >management. I believe NewEra Software has a tool they have been trying to get me to look at thei

Re: Offload work to ziip

2009-07-02 Thread Mark Pace
Agreed. This has lawsuit written all over it. Simply my opinion and not necessarily that of my employer. On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Jousma, David wrote: > I simply cannot see how IBM or any other ISV's will not challenge this. > It clearly is not what IBM intended, and other ISV's could l

Re: Offload work to ziip

2009-07-02 Thread Jousma, David
I simply cannot see how IBM or any other ISV's will not challenge this. It clearly is not what IBM intended, and other ISV's could lose revenue if customers buy specialty engines, and reduce GP's. Or worse yet, ISV's will just start charging you for capacity based on ZxxP's along with GP's, thereb

Re: ERASEDATA - DASD disposal

2009-07-02 Thread Jim Marshall
>I am in the process of retiring 3 RAMAC 2 racks, each with a 3990 mod 6 controller, and 1 RAMAC 3 rack, with a 9293 controller.  All data has been moved to new DASD.  The RAMAC DASD will be surplused so I have to be sure that the data has been wiped clean and nothing is recoverable - w ithou

Antwort: Command program from the cbt

2009-07-02 Thread Michael Klaeschen
Hi Kenneth, abend 913 is from OPEN macro, not from RACF. Its explanation reads to check message IEC150I. Insufficient authorization is one of several possible reasons. The reason code will give detailed explanation. Let's assume, it is a SAF authorization problem and not I/O, JCL, APF etc. rel

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