OT Part 2 of WHo wrote the first email

2011-06-22 Thread Ed Gould
>http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/20/did-my-brother-invent-e-mail-with-tom-van-vleck-part-two/?nl=opinion&emc=tya1 > Watch the wrap There seemed to be some interest in Part 1 so I thought I would send a link to part 2 It looks like there are some more parts coming up but since it a

Re: retraction ...

2011-06-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Well, I've worked with SDSI, MSX/MSI & MIM. If I got the progression wrong, blame it on old-timers. I do remember when the name was changed to CA-MIM. I pronounced it Kah-MIM, rather than Sea-Eh-MIM. And, as a Bugs Bunny fan, I always got a kick out of it. I'd always say: where's the CA-MIM? The

Re: Obtaining System Information from a COBOL program

2011-06-22 Thread Ed Gould
As someone asked before, justify it with a business case. You can always jump in and write an assembler program that can be called. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bam

Re: DR Plans

2011-06-22 Thread Ed Gould
Rick, We were semi neighbors at that time. we were next door (literally) neighbors a year before. I was flabbergasted that upper management was so $&@"' cheap about hardware at the time. They would argue about pennies. The storage issue was always in the forefront of issues. We ended up hiring

Re: retraction ...

2011-06-22 Thread Kirk Talman
original console product was SCON after MIM created the merged product was called MIC MIA was multi image allocation IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 06/22/2011 09:42:10 PM: > From: Ted MacNEIL > >two products (can't remember names) one > Duquesne owned and one they bought were merge

Re: DR Plans (WAS: Escon and Ficon Extensions)

2011-06-22 Thread Wayne Driscoll
I worked for a company in 1988 after the Mother's Day Phone telephone switching station fire. We had a site in the Chicago area, and a second in Arizona, connected by 2 T1 lines. The lines were from different carriers, and there was only one point on the route that the lines had in common, sa

Re: retraction ...

2011-06-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>two products (can't remember names) one Duquesne owned and one they bought were merged to form MIM. SDSI -- Shared DataSet Integrity. MSX/MSI - can't remember what they stood for. But, IIRC, MSI was Multiple System Integrity. MSX consolidated consoles from multiple systems (pre-SYSPLEX). This fe

Re: An upbeat story

2011-06-22 Thread Kirk Talman
One of the gentlemen I work with is 75 and still going strong. He was a music major - saxaphone and voice - got his masters - taught high school for a decade. Spent 3 decades w/IBM in various positions. For last 1.5 decades he has been doing Cobol/IMS/BD2 and is a specialist in his application

Re: DR Plans

2011-06-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Where do you draw the line between probable problems, possible problems and highly unlikely problems? Hopefully, somewhere between being gainfully employed and on the street. In my experience, after a disaster the DR co-ordinator either gets fired or the keys to the kingdom. It depends on eff

Re: retraction ...

2011-06-22 Thread Kirk Talman
IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 06/13/2011 01:57:03 PM: > From: Bill Fairchild > Duquesne merged with Morino Associates and the combined entity was > named Legent. Later CA bought Legent. CA had also bought Allen > Services previously. Thus CA came to own the two most prevalent >

Re: retraction ...

2011-06-22 Thread Kirk Talman
I started @ Duquesne 10/86. Within in a few yrs Duquesne merged w/Morino Assoc. to form Legent because venture capitalists who owned parts of both saw an advantage to it. Total culture clash between companies made merger an interesting time. Unfortunately there is no shelter that will take u

Re: Clobbered SMPSCDS

2011-06-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
> > > I am running with SMP/e 3.5. Was running an APPLY (not CHECK) last night. > It was > the only batch running on the lpar. There was an auxilary storage shortage > on the lpar > and the apply was KILLed remotely (from home) through OMEGAMON because I > couldn't get at it any other way to

Re: DR Plans

2011-06-22 Thread Rick Fochtman
-- Considering the circumstances of a disaster, it wouldn't amaze me. In 1969, the Canadian government started forcing all financial institutions, over a certain size, to implement a DR plan, and test it. --

Re: Reduced 3270 Screen Geometry

2011-06-22 Thread Rick Fochtman
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In <4e00b8cf.7060...@dignus.com>, on 06/21/2011 at 11:29 AM, Thomas David Rivers said: I've been told that the newer "flexible" lenses they use as replacements in cateracts surgery solve this problem; My insurance didn't cover those. Now, it se

Clobbered SMPSCDS

2011-06-22 Thread Linda Mooney
Hi, I am running with SMP/e 3.5.  Was running an APPLY (not CHECK) last night.  It was the only batch running on the lpar.  There was an auxilary storage shortage on the lpar and the apply was KILLed remotely (from home) through OMEGAMON because I couldn't get at it any other way to free u

Amdahl training was RE: more on startio...

2011-06-22 Thread Hylton Tom P
Do you mean Merriweather Post? http://www.merriweathermusic.com/about/ The Amdahl training center there morphed into TECHKNOWLEDGE (http://www.techknowledge.com) sometime maybe in the mid-90's. They still offer mainframe training, but it's been almost as long since I attended any so I can't a

Re: FB to VB can DFsort do this?

2011-06-22 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:43:26 -0400, Ken Leidner wrote: >I want to take a numbered FB 80 dataset (member) and convert it to a >VB 255 format dataset, each line will really be 80 bytes long. > >I know how to reformat the line numbers 73-80 to the start of each >line, and I can add the RDW (54 00 he

Re: Reduced 3270 Screen Geometry

2011-06-22 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:24:06 +, Rob Scott wrote: >Mark > >Have you got the following in TSOKEYxx? > >HIBFREXT=96000 > Yes > >For later releases of z/OS this prevents some hang conditions with wide screen geometry in TSO and ISPF applications > Exactly what I was going to point out. I would

Re: Reduced 3270 Screen Geometry

2011-06-22 Thread Rob Scott
Mark Have you got the following in TSOKEYxx? HIBFREXT=96000 For later releases of z/OS this prevents some hang conditions with wide screen geometry in TSO and ISPF applications Rob Scott Lead Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email:

Re: Reduced 3270 Screen Geometry

2011-06-22 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 6/22/2011 1:21 PM, Mark Zelden wrote: What version are you using? I am using 62 x 142 on z/OS 1.11 at RSU1103 and it still doesn't work. I get a menu fine, but if I type any commands like "DA" my terminal is so hosed up I can't even get an END excepted. The "LOG" command produces some real

Re: FB to VB can DFsort do this?

2011-06-22 Thread Frank Yaeger
Ken Leidner on IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 06/22/2011 01:43:26 PM: > I want to take a numbered FB 80 dataset (member) and convert it to a > VB 255 format dataset, each line will really be 80 bytes long. > > I know how to reformat the line numbers 73-80 to the start of each > line, and I

Re: FB to VB can DFsort do this?

2011-06-22 Thread Starr, Alan
I believe that this may accomplish your objective: //SORTBABY EXEC PGM=ICEMAN,REGION=31M, // PARM=('DSPSIZE=MAX,DYNALLOC=(3390,6),EQUALS,HIPRMAX=OPTIMAL,LIST', // 'SIZE=MAX,MSGPRT=ALL,VLSHRT') //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*

Re: Escon and Ficon Extensions

2011-06-22 Thread Skip Robinson
We run FICON DASD and tape connections between data centers over DWDM ('dark fiber'). Network distance is about 120 KM. The primary purpose for DASD is mirroring for DR; tape is used the same as local tape. It all works great. DO NOT attempt to run ESCON over DWDM. We tried that early on. Perf

Re: Obtaining system information from a COBOL program

2011-06-22 Thread john gilmore
PL/I has long supported such constructs as declare CVTPP pointer static initial(16); declare p pointer, cvtp pointer based(CVTPP) ; p = cvtp ; which sets p to point to the CVT, after which . . . Identical constructs---I forbear to illustrate them lest they corrupt the young and innocent---ar

FB to VB can DFsort do this?

2011-06-22 Thread Ken Leidner
I want to take a numbered FB 80 dataset (member) and convert it to a VB 255 format dataset, each line will really be 80 bytes long. I know how to reformat the line numbers 73-80 to the start of each line, and I can add the RDW (54 00 hex) before that, but what must I do to get the VB part? Wi

Re: Obtaining System Information from a COBOL program

2011-06-22 Thread Sam Siegel
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Steve Comstock wrote: > On 6/22/2011 11:36 AM, Daniel Rose wrote: > >> I had a COBOL programmer ask me how they could get the LPAR name, SYSNAME, >> or SMFSID from a COBOL program. I could not find a LE Function that would >> do that. So, a co-worker located a s

Re: DR Plans

2011-06-22 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
eamacn...@yahoo.ca (Ted MacNEIL) writes: > Considering the circumstances of a disaster, it wouldn't amaze me. In > 1969, the Canadian government started forcing all financial > institutions, over a certain size, to implement a DR plan, and test > it. In the 90s, major ATM transaction processing c

Re: Reduced 3270 Screen Geometry

2011-06-22 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:34:11 +, Rob Scott wrote: >> Last time I checked it didn't even support 'large' screens except under ISPF, so I think it's very old code. > >FYI : SDSF does support large screens in TSO mode (rather than ISPF) - I have just checked in 62x160 and it handles it fine. Wha

Re: DR Plans (WAS: Escon and Ficon Extensions)

2011-06-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>It's amazing what comes up in an actual disaster that never made it into our >semi-annual tests. Considering the circumstances of a disaster, it wouldn't amaze me. In 1969, the Canadian government started forcing all financial institutions, over a certain size, to implement a DR plan, and test

Re: OT The inventor of Email - Tom Van Vleck

2011-06-22 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes: > It's older than that. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011h.html#44 OT The inventor of Email - Tom Van Vleck besides: http://www.multicians.org/thvv/mail-history.html other CTSS reference pages by Tom http://www.multicians.org/th

Re: Escon and Ficon Extensions

2011-06-22 Thread Mike Schwab
http://www.opticatech.com/?page_id=49 3KM native, 16KM with a FICON Bridge http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESCON http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FICON On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Klein, Kevin wrote: > My company is currently running from our hotsite after declaring and > executing a disaster at

Re: Escon and Ficon Extensions

2011-06-22 Thread Neubert, Kevin
Not sure what distances you are considering, but the System z Connectivity Handbook (SG24-5444) has a chapter on unrepeated and repeated distance solutions for various connections to include ESCON and FICON. Regards, Kevin -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:

Re: Obtaining System Information from a COBOL program

2011-06-22 Thread Steve Comstock
On 6/22/2011 11:36 AM, Daniel Rose wrote: I had a COBOL programmer ask me how they could get the LPAR name, SYSNAME, or SMFSID from a COBOL program. I could not find a LE Function that would do that. So, a co-worker located a sample program that chases controls to get that information. Does an

Escon and Ficon Extensions

2011-06-22 Thread Klein, Kevin
My company is currently running from our hotsite after declaring and executing a disaster at our primary site (too close to the Missouri River this summer). We're looking for alternate sites to move our primary site to that are closer to home. I guess we were kind of in denial that we'd ever d

COBOL internal data structures

2011-06-22 Thread Chip Grantham
Hi everyone, I've used the CBT for COBOL compile option parms program in the past to understand verb counts, data structure counts and compile options in the past. Our current compiler is not producing a good report and I suspect the current version of the compiler isn't compatible with the pr

Re: CAMLST MACRO question

2011-06-22 Thread Walt Farrell
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:13:07 -0400, DanD wrote: >What IDCAMS function requires authorization? > >I wrote a program that uses SVC 26 to simulate IDCAMS "DELETE xxx ALIAS" and >it worked without any authorization. >Yes, I know...the SVC 26 parameter list is not documented for customer use. > >The o

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 20 Jun 2011 to 21 Jun 2011 (#2011-172)

2011-06-22 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Read the instruction at the end of each post & do it yourself! - Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca Twitter: @TedMacNEIL -Original Message- From: "Daanen, Patrick" Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:25:26 To: Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Sub

Re: Reduced 3270 Screen Geometry

2011-06-22 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 6/22/2011 9:28 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 07:27:48 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: On 6/20/2011 4:05 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: ISPF wouldn't tolerate it; I know; disconnecting from an ISPF session and reconnecting with a different geometry results in an endless iter

Re: Obtaining System Information from a COBOL program

2011-06-22 Thread Donald Johnson
Hi Daniel (Dan?) I have a program that gets some of that info from control blocks, courtesy of Gil Saint-Flour. Here is the info block at the beginning, along with a website to get you started: *THE NAME OF THE CONTROL-BLOCK IS INDICATED IN POS 1-6 OF* *THE PROCEDURE DIVISION LINES.

Re: CAMLST MACRO question

2011-06-22 Thread DanD
That processing is part of IKJEFTSR, Shmuel. I suppose one -could- build an appropriate parm list and directly ATTACH the TSO/E CALL command, which (I think) would result in CALL using IKJEFTSR on your behalf. But of course the intended way for you to invoke the CALL command is via IKJEFTSR direct

Re: Maintaining ISPF's command stack

2011-06-22 Thread DanD
This had nothing to do with the user's profile. All users of this program could no longer stack a single option. A couple extra semicolons were required. The code did... ISPEXEC CONTROL NONDISPL ENTER ISPEXEC DISPLAY PANEL(USERINFO) then continued and eventually displayed a selectio

Re: CAMLST MACRO question

2011-06-22 Thread Walt Farrell
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 10:54:48 -0400, Stan Weyman wrote: > You are correct Walt. I should have said obtain, not retain. I start out authorized but lose it as soon as I call the REXX function. I require APF for a certain call while in the REXX function. It does sound like the TSR is required o

Obtaining System Information from a COBOL program

2011-06-22 Thread Daniel Rose
I had a COBOL programmer ask me how they could get the LPAR name, SYSNAME, or SMFSID from a COBOL program. I could not find a LE Function that would do that. So, a co-worker located a sample program that chases controls to get that information. Does anybody know of any LE Functions or a cleaner

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 20 Jun 2011 to 21 Jun 2011 (#2011-172)

2011-06-22 Thread Daanen, Patrick
Please remove me Patrick J. Daanen From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of IBM-MAIN automatic digest system Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 11:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: IBM-MAIN Digest - 20 Jun 2011 to 21 Jun 2011 (#2011-172) [http://BAMA.UA.ED

Re: Reduced 3270 Screen Geometry

2011-06-22 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 07:27:48 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: >On 6/20/2011 4:05 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > >>ISPF wouldn't tolerate it; I know; >>disconnecting from an ISPF session and reconnecting with >>a different geometry results in an endless iterative >>"TERMINAL I/O ERROR". I c

Re: Reduced 3270 Screen Geometry

2011-06-22 Thread Richards, Robert B.
> These days I cannot imagine many people actually using SDSF too much from the > READY prompt Only when I am getting ready to logoff for the day and then remember that I forgot to look at something I submitted. :-) Bob -- For

Re: Restore Error - Adrdssu

2011-06-22 Thread Jim McAlpine
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:30 PM, jagadishan perumal wrote: > i have figured out the problem. Parm='type=norun' was just printing > not restoring. . so took of this parameter and everything went fine. > thanks all > > > Yes, but you had already made changes before that to make the restore work in

Re: CAMLST MACRO question

2011-06-22 Thread Stan Weyman
You are correct Walt. I should have said obtain, not retain. I start out authorized but lose it as soon as I call the REXX function. I require APF for a certain call while in the REXX function. It does sound like the TSR is required one way or the other (along with the AUTHTSF entry of co

Re: Reduced 3270 Screen Geometry

2011-06-22 Thread Rob Scott
> Last time I checked it didn't even support 'large' screens except under ISPF, > so I think it's very old code. FYI : SDSF does support large screens in TSO mode (rather than ISPF) - I have just checked in 62x160 and it handles it fine. These days I cannot imagine many people actually using SD

Re: Restore Error - Adrdssu

2011-06-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
Jags, PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' will show you how the restore could go. So it says it will restore all files but the following U195530.SPFLOG1.LIST 0 U195530.ISPF.ISPPROF 0 So I am not sure what your issue is now. You are using different datasets from the original question you posted. Before you us

Re: Restore Error - Adrdssu

2011-06-22 Thread jagadishan perumal
i have figured out the problem. Parm='type=norun' was just printing not restoring. . so took of this parameter and everything went fine. thanks all On 6/22/11, jagadishan perumal wrote: > Hi, > > The back up was taken at V1R6 and the restoration is happening at v1r12. Is > there any version incom

Re: Reduced 3270 Screen Geometry

2011-06-22 Thread Edward Jaffe
On 6/20/2011 4:05 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: o Does any terminal emulator provide dynamic geometry change during a session? Probably most of them. I know PCOMM supports this. Rebind is a standard part of the protocol. ISPF wouldn't tolerate it; I know; disconnecting from an ISPF se

Re: Restore Error - Adrdssu

2011-06-22 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hi, The back up was taken at V1R6 and the restoration is happening at v1r12. Is there any version incompatibility. now i get U195530 1PAGE 0001 5695-DF175 DFSMSDSS V1R12.0 DATA SET SERVICES 2011.173 19:20 -ADR031I (SCH)-PRIME(01), TYPRUN=NORUN REQUESTED. TASKS WILL EXECUTE IN NORUN MO

Re: Some tests with MFNetDisk PRO

2011-06-22 Thread shai hess
>Doesn't MFNet use TCP/IP? Yes, that is the media to communicate with the PC if you do not like to use special HW for FICON, ESCON. >Software that emulates a device like MFNet could be done with a supported means/interface NO. MFNetDisk uses code to catch all the IO. MFNetDisk uses sometime STA

Re: Some tests with MFNetDisk PRO

2011-06-22 Thread Lindy Mayfield
If I got it right, MFN thinks that it has attached a DASD, but instead of I/O to a real DASD, it writes and reads from a file on PC or Linux using TCP/IP. I once asked how it was possible to fake attaching a device like tape or DASD and how was it done. I got a one word answer: STARTIO I waste

Re: more on startio...

2011-06-22 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 07:33:50 -0400 "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)" wrote: :>In <6nr1079jaapjm02otqqvboe1fe5qvp1...@4ax.com>, on 06/21/2011 :> at 10:24 PM, Binyamin Dissen said: :>>I used STARTIO in order to make the CONSOLE input field no-display :>I don't see how STARTIO makes that any easier t

Re: Some tests with MFNetDisk PRO

2011-06-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <77142d37c0c3c34da0d7b1da7d7ca343135c8...@nwt-s-mbx1.rocketsoftware.com>, on 06/22/2011 at 11:18 AM, Bill Fairchild said: >I may have missed a post or two lately. The original context was Shai's software, which AFAIK uses TCP/IP to communicate between the PC and z sides. -- Shmuel

Re: CAMLST MACRO question

2011-06-22 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:51:05 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >In , on 06/20/2011 > at 09:57 AM, Walt Farrell said: > >>True, but not if it simply LINKs or ATTACHes IDCAMS (which might be >>the immediate choice of most programmers). It would have to use >>IKJEFTSR, > >There are other way

Re: CAMLST MACRO question

2011-06-22 Thread Walt Farrell
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 08:58:21 -0400, Stan Weyman wrote: > Are there alternate methods to retaining authorization when running under the TMP other than using IKJEFTSR? I have some REXX functions written in assembler that call other functions requiring authorization and the only method I was aware

Re: Restore Error - Adrdssu

2011-06-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 06/22/2011 at 03:02 PM, jagadishan perumal said: >Could'nt figure out the exact syntax error with my JCL. If there had been a syntax error then your job wouldn't have run. IEC036I 002-30,IGC0005E,RESTORE$,STEP1,TAPE1,0680,USRBKP,BACK should tell you what your problem is. --

Re: Reduced 3270 Screen Geometry

2011-06-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <4e00b8cf.7060...@dignus.com>, on 06/21/2011 at 11:29 AM, Thomas David Rivers said: >I've been told that the newer "flexible" lenses they use as >replacements in cateracts surgery solve this problem; My insurance didn't cover those. >Now, it seems, I need cateracts :-) I would have been

Re: Some tests with MFNetDisk PRO

2011-06-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <0377b9a583fd0e4aacd676ee33ee994b49ec2...@sdkmail13.emea.sas.com>, on 06/21/2011 at 07:20 PM, Lindy Mayfield said: >I totally apologize if I am beating the dead horse. But if I >understood correctly, software that emulates a device like MFNet >could be done with a supported means/interface

Re: Some tests with MFNetDisk PRO

2011-06-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <77142d37c0c3c34da0d7b1da7d7ca343135c8...@nwt-s-mbx1.rocketsoftware.com>, on 06/21/2011 at 06:45 PM, Bill Fairchild said: >If the device that you wish to emulate has a certain feature that (1) >you wish to support, (2) IBM software and hardware supports such a >feature, but (3) you cannot u

Re: more on startio...

2011-06-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <6nr1079jaapjm02otqqvboe1fe5qvp1...@4ax.com>, on 06/21/2011 at 10:24 PM, Binyamin Dissen said: >I used STARTIO in order to make the CONSOLE input field no-display I don't see how STARTIO makes that any easier than doing it with EXCP. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

Re: Restore Error - Adrdssu

2011-06-22 Thread Dennis Trojak
If this is the complete output then it never found any XXA47467.** datasets that were "successfully processed" to backup. Dennis -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of jagadishan perumal Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 5:50 AM To:

Re: CAMLST MACRO question

2011-06-22 Thread Stan Weyman
Are there alternate methods to retaining authorization when running under the TMP other than using IKJEFTSR? I have some REXX functions written in assembler that call other functions requiring authorization and the only method I was aware of to retain my authorization was to use the TSR? My

Re: At which zOS level was the initial save area (TCBFSAB) changed to 144 bits?

2011-06-22 Thread Steve Comstock
On 6/22/2011 6:45 AM, Binyamin Dissen wrote: At which zOS level was the initial save area (TCBFSAB) changed to 144 bits? Well, I believe it was V1R3 when the save area was changed to 144 bytes; I don't think it's ever been 144 bits. :-) -- Binyamin Dissen http://www.dissensoftware.com Dire

Re: how to backup data onto mainframe tape and restored & read on windows ?

2011-06-22 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2011-06-22 01:15, Tsai Laurence pisze: Dears listers, question as the subject , any idea ? After you gave us some information about your needs I confirm the convinction that media sharing between mainframe and Windows is last thing you really need. I would consider one of the followi

At which zOS level was the initial save area (TCBFSAB) changed to 144 bits?

2011-06-22 Thread Binyamin Dissen
At which zOS level was the initial save area (TCBFSAB) changed to 144 bits? -- Binyamin Dissen http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar & Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domai

Re: Restore Error - Adrdssu

2011-06-22 Thread Larry Macioce
It must be some kind of mistakes , if you look further down yo see: ADR454I (001)-DTDSC(01), THE FOLLOWING DATA SETS WERE SUCCESSFULLY PROCESSED mace -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email

Re: how to backup data onto mainframe tape and restored & read on windows ?

2011-06-22 Thread David Andrews
The z/OS ftp server will support SITE UNIT=[tape device]. Take your backup using ftp, then restore it via a MS-Windows client. -- David Andrews A. Duda & Sons, Inc. david.andr...@duda.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / a

Re: Restore Error - Adrdssu

2011-06-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Stephen Mednick wrote: >Yes you're right, I missed seeing it. Nevermind. It is all right! >Getting late here and the eyes are droopy! Get a cup of good strong coffee for your eye! :-D :-D Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -

Re: 1.12 upgrade, required PTFs I missed.

2011-06-22 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Mary Anne, Got busy and forgot to respond. Thank you for your feedback. I do not have a testplex yet, so I'll be trying it live in a few weeks. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Anne Matyaz Sent: Friday, June 17,

Re: Restore Error - Adrdssu

2011-06-22 Thread Stephen Mednick
Yes you're right, I missed seeing it. Getting late here and the eyes are droopy! Stephen Mednick Computer Supervisory Services Sydney, Australia Asia/Pacific representatives for Innovation Data Processing, Inc. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN

Re: Restore Error - Adrdssu

2011-06-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Stephen Mednick wrote: >Did you really run the JCL with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'? Hopefully not, because there is no comma to the left of PARM and we should see ADR031I if it was really mentioned. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht

Re: Restore Error - Adrdssu

2011-06-22 Thread Jim McAlpine
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Stephen Mednick wrote: > Hi Jagadishan. > > Did you really run the JCL with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'? > > If you did, the backup didn't actually run because the TYPRUN=NORUN parm > specifies that the DUMP option will only be simulated! > > > Stephen Mednick > Computer

Re: Restore Error - Adrdssu

2011-06-22 Thread Stephen Mednick
Hi Jagadishan. Did you really run the JCL with PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN'? If you did, the backup didn't actually run because the TYPRUN=NORUN parm specifies that the DUMP option will only be simulated! Stephen Mednick Computer Supervisory Services Sydney, Australia Asia/Pacific representatives for

Re: Some tests with MFNetDisk PRO

2011-06-22 Thread Bill Fairchild
I may have missed a post or two lately. I wasn't aware that Lindy was asking about a supported interface for intercepting I/O. I thought the subject was using STARTIO. Like Shmuel, I know of no supported interface for intercepting I/O in general. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -Original

Re: Restore Error - Adrdssu

2011-06-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
> > 15.19.25 JOB02012 IEC036I > 002-30,IGC0005E,RESTORE$,STEP1,TAPE1,0680,USRBKP,BACK > > are you sure that this tape was created using ADRDSSU. > >01 //A255209$ JOB MSGCLASS=X,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),CLASS=B, >02 // REGION=0M,NOTIFY=&SYSUID >03 //RESTORE EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU >04 //TA

Re: how to backup data onto mainframe tape and restored & read on windows ?

2011-06-22 Thread Lizette Koehler
> > for example , backup the PDF file on MF via tape driver and restore it on windows. > > > Laurence > To help me understand the request. 1) Is this file an Adobe PDF File that resides on a Windows Box? And that file is to be backed up on the Mainframe Tape Drive? 2) The purpose is to backup

Re: mvs command execution using batch job

2011-06-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote: >>If your INTRDR is set up to allow commands >Bletch! If your auditors are awake they won't allow it. Use CONSOLE, with appropriate permissions. Agreed, sort of. But anyway how the command(s) enter the system, you can still protect the command(s) itself with RA

Re: Restore Error - Adrdssu

2011-06-22 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hi, The back up went fine with CC=0. Below is my JCL //BACKUP$ JOB MSGCLASS=X,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),CLASS=T, // REGION=5M,NOTIFY=&SYSUID //DUMPDS EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU PARM='TYPRUN=NORUN' //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //DASD1 DD VOL=SER=LDSN16,UNIT=3390,DISP=SHR //DASD2 DD VOL=SER=LDSN15,UNIT=3390,DI

Re: Restore Error - Adrdssu

2011-06-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
jagadishan perumal wrote: >15.19.25 JOB02012 IEC036I >002-30,IGC0005E,RESTORE$,STEP1,TAPE1,0680,USRBKP,BACK Do a TAPEMAP on that volume and post the result here. I really doubt your tape was written correctly in the backup stage. Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht

Re: Reduced 3270 Screen Geometry

2011-06-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 06/20/2011 at 06:05 PM, Paul Gilmartin said: >o If I disconnect from a TSO READY prompt and reconnect with > a different screen geometry, TSO continues in line mode > savvy to the change. Why doesn't TSO pass notification > of this change to ISPF if it's running, and/or why doesn't

Re: OT The inventor of Email - Tom Van Vleck

2011-06-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <399744.27282...@web161424.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, on 06/20/2011 at 10:33 AM, Ed Gould said: >Subject: OT The inventor of Email - Tom Van Vleck It's older than that. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see We

Re: mvs command execution using batch job

2011-06-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <1308614064.4210.105.ca...@dv7t.johnmckown.net>, on 06/20/2011 at 06:54 PM, John McKown said: >If your INTRDR is set up to allow commands Bletch! If your auditors are awake they won't allow it. Use CONSOLE, with appropriate permissions. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

Re: Some tests with MFNetDisk PRO

2011-06-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <0377b9a583fd0e4aacd676ee33ee994b4a856...@sdkmail13.emea.sas.com>, on 06/20/2011 at 05:18 PM, Lindy Mayfield said: >Don't leave me hanging! :-) What "supported" interface would I use? I'm not aware of any supported interface for intercepting I/O, but the subsystem interface can be used t

Re: CAMLST MACRO question

2011-06-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 06/20/2011 at 09:57 AM, Walt Farrell said: >True, but not if it simply LINKs or ATTACHes IDCAMS (which might be >the immediate choice of most programmers). It would have to use >IKJEFTSR, There are other ways, but they all involve the TMP testing for authorization before running the r

Re: Restore Error - Adrdssu

2011-06-22 Thread jagadishan perumal
Yes, but i have a doubt. In our shop Dasd volumes are visible on both the LPARS. The datasets which were backed up were used to reside to on the volumes which were visible on the target lpar. Is this could be a problem, if it is so is it appreciable to make the the volumes offline in the target LPA

Re: Restore Error - Adrdssu

2011-06-22 Thread Jim McAlpine
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:06 AM, jagadishan perumal wrote: > JESMSGLG : > > > > 15.10.21 JOB02012 WEDNESDAY, 22 JUN 2011 > > 15.10.21 JOB02012 IRR010I USERID IBMUSER IS ASSIGNED TO THIS > JOB. > 15.10.21 JOB02012 IRR011I SECLABEL SYSHIGH IS ASSIGNED TO THIS > JOB. > 15.10.22 JOB02

Re: Restore Error - Adrdssu

2011-06-22 Thread jagadishan perumal
JESMSGLG : 15.10.21 JOB02012 WEDNESDAY, 22 JUN 2011 15.10.21 JOB02012 IRR010I USERID IBMUSER IS ASSIGNED TO THIS JOB. 15.10.21 JOB02012 IRR011I SECLABEL SYSHIGH IS ASSIGNED TO THIS JOB. 15.10.22 JOB02012 ICH70001I IBMUSER LAST ACCESS AT 14:32:03 ON WEDNESDAY, JUNE 15.10.22 JOB0

Re: Restore Error - Adrdssu

2011-06-22 Thread Jim McAlpine
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 10:32 AM, jagadishan perumal wrote: > Hi, > > I was trying to restore some dataset using the below JCL : > > 01 //A255209$ JOB MSGCLASS=X,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),CLASS=B, > 02 // REGION=0M,NOTIFY=&SYSUID > 03 //RESTORE EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU > 04 //TAPE DD UNIT=680

Re: how to backup data onto mainframe tape and restored & read on windows ?

2011-06-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Tsai Laurence wrote: >for example , backup the PDF file on MF via tape driver and restore it on windows. What tape driver do you have? Let us start with that and see if that hardware is compatible with z/OS and Windows. What version of z/OS and Windows do you have? Also what type of connection

Restore Error - Adrdssu

2011-06-22 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hi, I was trying to restore some dataset using the below JCL : 01 //A255209$ JOB MSGCLASS=X,MSGLEVEL=(1,1),CLASS=B, 02 // REGION=0M,NOTIFY=&SYSUID 03 //RESTORE EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU 04 //TAPE DD UNIT=680,DISP=SHR,LABEL=(1,SL), 05 //DSN=BACKUP.USRBKP,VOL=SER=USRBKP 0

Re: how to backup data onto mainframe tape and restored & read on windows ?

2011-06-22 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2011-06-22 01:15, Tsai Laurence pisze: Dears listers, question as the subject , any idea ? First idea: WHY? WHY TO DO THAT? Is it just an exercise, or there is some business goal behind that? In general it is hard to write tape media on one system and restore on another. Sometimes it's

Re: how to backup data onto mainframe tape and restored & read on windows ?

2011-06-22 Thread Tsai Laurence
for example , backup the PDF file on MF via tape driver and restore it on windows. Laurence 2011/6/22 Schwarz, Barry A > What type of data? What windows application will read the data? > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On > Beha

Re: how to backup data onto mainframe tape and restored & read on windows ?

2011-06-22 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
"Tsai Laurence" wrote in message news:... > Dears listers, > question as the subject , any idea ? > > appreciated your idea. > > > Regards, > Laurence > With NFS and similar products, you can create a network disk residing on z/OS Dasd. As asked before: why specially tape? Kees.

Re: how to backup data onto mainframe tape and restored & read on windows ?

2011-06-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Why from tape, not from dasd? [1] What type of data? FB, VSAM, etc? How many in quantity? How big in total? How often? Hourly, daily, weekly, monthly, yearly, every century? :-) Do you have security needs? Is the destination secure? Really secure? How rich are you? :-) Do you want freebies or $

Re: Maintaining ISPF's command stack

2011-06-22 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Dan wrote: >Are you saying that the ";4" is returned with the display of he USERINFO panel, even though the user will never actually see this panel? That doesn't sound logical to me. If I got it right from all these discussions, your session is working fine, but your user not. Is it so? Or am