We have the need to erase any residual data on some stacked backend vsm
tapes. I've heard you can do this with FATS/FATAR but wondered if there is
any other method to do this? Everything else I have seen seems to require
the tapes be added to your tape management system and even then there is
I'm wondering if there is any kind of a cookbook for volume mount analyzer or
for a product called Tape Mount Analyzer? This year we are trying to make
sure that data that goes to tape should go there and not on dasd.
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If you find any training we would also be interested.
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Alright this is a head scratcher at least for me... We have recently
installed
a VSM5 and also have some VSM4's in the mix. We have one job that runs
that is continually getting channel detected errors every time it runs and the
errors are only occurring on the VSM5. Below is a small
Thanks, our STK sales person does not recommend EXPR. It is not a good fit
for our environment and to put it lightly he stated he would rather lose the
sale then to have an unsatisfied customer. So if there is anything else out
there...
Does anybody have some good reporting for STK VSMs? We are using MXG
and creating something, but I would like to get some along the lines almost
like
IBMs VTSSTATS.
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We also use STK VSM's and 9940b's on the backend. I've used VDR in the
past and it does work extremely well, but it sounds like you are not going to
have any other tape drives other then backend drives and virtual drives. So
I'm not sure how VDR would help you. STK does have a feature with
It isn't a question of what's common, we are just trying to make sure that
either will do the job in a shop as large as ours. Just want to make the
best choice for our environment. From the replies I've seen either one
will do the job we need. Which brings me to my next question, as our
I'm trying to get an answer as to how many shops are using STK silos and
have also implmented RMM? Currently we are a mixed shop and using both
IBM and STK with our direction being all STK. We also have 2 tape
management systems RMM and CA-1 with RMM being used on the largest
systems, and
Since I received no reply to my first note I thought I'd word it
differently. The 15 to 1 ratio can be explained by normal tape I/O. It
seems the bottle neck is at the Brocade directors. We dump the data into
an edge and it hits the front end at 60 MBPS the network then compresses
it and it
We do weekly full volume backups across a network to a remote location.
We are currently seeing our ability to accomplish these backups within the
current window almost impossible. We are trying many things and one is to
increase the buffer credits. What we see when doing the full volume
Well, it seems we have two directions we can go with our tape management
system. We have some systems that run CA-1 and some that run RMM. At
first we stated that we wanted to go to CA-1. This seems to be what the
majority of people use. My personnel opinion I like CA-1 much better, I
We are attempting to switch from 3590J(MEDIA3) to 3590K(media4) tapes but
HSM is issuing the messages below. We have ejected all the J media
scratches and inserted enough of the K media to at least get through
tonight. But it's critical that we figure this out before this weekend.
CBR4195I
Every morning we run a job that does an STK CDS backup. About 1/2 hour
after the job starts we start seeing master start pendings on the volume
which holds the primary CDS. Once the backup step starts about 45 minutes
after the first start pending we then see a reserve on that volume while
The reserve that's done in the morning is usually fine, GRS is functioning
as it should. It's also an expected situation. I'm not sure if
converting to an enqueue would do anything for us, but please tell me any
benefits. I will also see if we have other jobs running that are doing
That's already done. So only STK work will get the reserve?? That's a
good thing to know. But then we have the master start pending issue...
I'm looking into that right now.
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Yes unloads work, but when we have a lot of them it's quicker to vary
the drives offline and back on. We tried running a job using retain and
were unable to reproduce this.
John Benik
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That's what we will be doing, but since we are not converting this to STK
for a while we were just trying to get all the esoterics in place. And we
don't want to force JCL changes to the users. This brings me to my next
question isn't there a way to only have tape units defined to the default
to duplicate this have failed.
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are
considering the EMC solution.
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Currently most of our HSM work is going to an IBM virtual tape system. We
are in the process of migrating off of IBM and going to STK. To get a
jump on this we decided we would add the STK Virtual Tape drives to the
Esoteric that's currently used by for the IBM VTS. When we did this HSM
had
are using BLP processing and everytime we tried to read the 2nd tape we
got the same abend. I ended up spliting one job into 16 different jobs,
because every time we restored one file, it tried to go to the second
tape...
Thanks
John Benik
Thanks for your help I'll see if I can find any more information on this
on Monday. It was very obvious that this was the first time this had ever
gone multivolume. The tapes are created SL tapes so my thinking was that
once the TMC was up and running on this system I could restore them as
I'm not sure if my question on this went out or not. Through many trials
I was finally able to get a job to abend after writing virtual tapes. The
only way I was able to do this however was to use a file that was on tape
already and it was using the fat tape 200gb. So I'm not sure if the error
you were exactly right TPRACF(A). It sounds like the only way to avoid
this is to not use Tapevol any longer, is there something else I should
change the TPRACF(A) to?
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' then set unit = 'tape90', but because it was only coded
in a filter list then it had to be in the gen??
Thanks
John Benik
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are using STK and the SMC SMS interface??
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Subject: Re: Esoterics set in SMS we are very quick to make HCD changes.
John Benik wrote
Our environment consists of 2 STK SL8500 libraries and 40 9940 tape
drives. We are using the 9940 tape for our HSM data and we can see a tape
mounted several times, but then it appears the tape gets stuck. We have
to issue and STK dismount command and sometimes we have to issue an MVS
unload to
Now that I am at a new company and we have finally insourced our
production system I have a question on how we set esoterics. I was always
under the impression that we could use SMS and set the esoterics. Here is
an example of what's currently in the Dataclass ACS routines.
FILTLIST TAPE90
We have recently begun a tapecopy process from IBM VTS's to STK VSM's. We
have run into a few files that on the IBM side exceeded the max vol count
for discrete profiles, but when trying to copy them to STK there is an
issue and the discrete profile only allows them to go 42 volumes. On the
IBM
It can be done, but Strongly recommend the use of open tech's VDR
utility. It works much better then IBM's export and import function...
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We recently made the decision to go with all STK equipment for our tape
devices. We had to install some STK equipment for swing gear at our out
sourcers site. They originally came back with the 9310 silos where too
tall. We asked STK to come up with another solution. They did, they
suggested
Hello I hope some of you can help me with this...
We made a commitment to our user and applications teams that there would
be no JCL changes required when we cut over to a new tape infrastructure.
Our thinking was that we would virtualize everything. We are using STK
VSM4's and 9940 backend.
We are in the process of converting from IBM VTS's to STK VSM's. STK has
recommended that we use tapereqs to accomplish this task. I am not quite
clear on what we code in the ACS routines to get it into STK or do we code
everything to go to STK and based on criteria we set in Tapereq we go back
An original tape in RMM looks like this.
Record format . . . . : U
Block size . . . . . : 32760
Logical record length : 0
Block count . . . . . : 8871
Total block count . . : 8002
After using tapecopy the output tape looks like this.
Record format . . . . : U
Block size . . . . . : 32760
that I landed a job, well that and my good looks!! I
mean my skills...
John Benik
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If you have achieved success please let me know how you did it.
Thanks
John Benik
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Thanks Bruce it appears to be as we expected all is fine. We may never
know why the total block count is less, but all seems to have been
copied.
Thanks again
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We are making a switch from all IBM tape equipment to STK. As many of you
know the IBM library requires you to use OAM and a volcat. My
understanding is that you could consider HSC software to be like OAM, and
it also is not necessary to have a volcat. I can't find any information
on OAM in the
for an STK VSM?
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John Benik
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I know we can't be the only ones to have ever run into this problem!! We
are being told that the new STK equipment we are ordering is 3 inches too
tall and cannot go on our outsourcers floor. Has anybody ever run into
this in the past and if so what did you do to get around it? We have
At one time I found a very good website for tape information. I cannot
remember what that website was. Does anybody know of any good websites to
get tape information on?
Thanks
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