Re: 3490E cartridges

On 10 Mar 2009 17:42:40 -0700, nduf...@uottawa.ca (Neil Duffee) wrote: >Pete: despite all the nay-sayers that urge the upgrade path, you >might simply advise your customers of the non-availability of media >and require them to provide *you* with the cartridges when they want >the software deli

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In <49b6d080.23258.24eb...@localhost>, on 03/10/2009 at 08:41 PM, Neil Duffee said: >ps. I'd verify that claim of "3490Es was right - most customers could >read them" by making sure you're writing 18 tracks for 3480s. (I >thought the 'E' model was 36 track only. Something to look into.)

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On 2009-02-28 08:30 Pete Borton wrote to IBM-Main about "3490E cartridges": > Thanks to all who replied. Our dilemma is that we still supply our > software on 3480s! We've got a new z9 and a 3490 drive and thought > going to 3490Es was right - most customer

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Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 12:02:23 +0100, R.S. wrote: Schwarz, Barry A wrote: Aren't beliefs a wonderful thing. Since one customer is still using 3270 style dumb terminals exclusively, ... BTW: Even "coax network" can connect CD to a mainframe. You need PC with CD and coax car

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On Fri, 6 Mar 2009 12:02:23 +0100, R.S. wrote: >Schwarz, Barry A wrote: >> Aren't beliefs a wonderful thing. >> >> Since one customer is still using 3270 style dumb terminals exclusively, ... > >BTW: Even "coax network" can connect CD to a mainframe. You need PC with >CD and coax card. It can be o

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Schwarz, Barry A wrote: Aren't beliefs a wonderful thing. Since one customer is still using 3270 style dumb terminals exclusively, I can assure you of at least one mainframe shop without a PC. We would be quite willing to give them one but it wouldn't help since they don't have a TCP/IP netw

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27; Jerry "Schwarz, Barry A" Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 03/05/2009 02:50 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject Re: 3490E cartridges Aren't beliefs a wonderful thing. Since one customer is still using 3270 st

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situation cannot last forever but part of what they pay me for is to make it last as long as possible, or at least until they can upgrade. -Original Message- From: R.S. [mailto:r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: 34

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Eric Bielefeld wrote: Very well put! A happy customer is probably worth a lot. We used to have a CD reader at P&H Mining when I first started in 1985. Oh wait - that was an 8" floppy reader. I'm not sure if CDs were invented then for data storage. I'm sure someone will know. I think the

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ppy reader was bus and tag connected though. Eric Eric Bielefeld Sr. Systems Programmer Milwaukee, Wisconsin 414-475-7434 - Original Message - From: "Schwarz, Barry A" Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:48 PM Subject: Re: 3490E cartr

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up to date one annoyed that we forced them to upgrade. One of my best customers is still using OS/390 1.3 and we have no intention of dropping support. Anyone know of a bus and tag CD reader? -Original Message- From: R.S. Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:18 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sub

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On 3 Mar 2009 13:56:03 -0800, jch...@ussco.com (Chase, John) wrote: >> That is a perfectly valid consideration. But only one of many. Since >> most of our products carry nine-figure price tags, I don't think we >> would sell too many in the future if customers didn't have faith we >> would conti

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Schwarz, Barry A wrote: It must really be wonderful when all your customers keep up to date. However, pontificating for those of us whose customers don't merely demonstrates the limits of your experience. I guess we could have abandoned our customer who didn't convert from round reels until afte

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On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:29:25 -0800, Schwarz, Barry A wrote: >It must really be wonderful when all your customers keep up to date. >However, pontificating for those of us whose customers don't merely >demonstrates the limits of your experience. > >I guess we could have abandoned our customer who did

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In a message dated 3/3/2009 5:01:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, eamacn...@yahoo.ca writes: running "obsolete" equipment, and what they are paying me is enough to be profitable, what IS the problem? >> Gravity and friction always win no matter how much you throw at it. While it might be sh

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assembler listserv and the COBOL discussions here, I don't think they are succeeding. Even IEHMOVE is still around. -Original Message- From: Chase, John Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 1:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: 3490E cartridges > -Original Message- >

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>I don't see a logical connection between buying modern airplanes and running >"obsolete" computing hardware. Maybe. But, I think you've missed the point! If I have a group of customers who are running "obsolete" equipment, and what they are paying me is enough to be profitable, what IS the prob

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> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Schwarz, Barry A > > That is a perfectly valid consideration. But only one of many. Since > most of our products carry nine-figure price tags, I don't think we > would sell too many in the future if customers didn't

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ntaining a high level of backward compatibility stretching back from the z10 to the 360/40 I used to program in college 40+ years ago. -Original Message- From: John McKown Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:26 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: 3490E cartridges However, eventually som

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On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:10:23 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: >>It must really be wonderful when all your customers keep up to date. >>However, pontificating for those of us whose customers don't merely demonstrates the limits of your experience. > > >Well said! >I've been at places that are so out of da

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>It must really be wonderful when all your customers keep up to date. >However, pontificating for those of us whose customers don't merely >demonstrates the limits of your experience. Well said! I've been at places that are so out of date, that you want to cry. As long as it makes business sense

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2009 7:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: 3490E cartridges No one needs 3490's, and haven't for years. I'd steer well clear of used tapes; they have a finite life span starting from the day they left the factory. And, the last I heard, the last factory was converted so

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Pete Borton Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: 3490E cartridges As mentioned earlier we DO supply some customers on CD. I suppose it's just a case of persuading the others to accept them. Even re-furbished 3490E's are going for 5-7 GBP EACH h

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t [mailto:hmerr...@jackhenry.com] Sent: 03 March 2009 15:08 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: 3490E cartridges No one needs 3490's, and haven't for years. I'd steer well clear of used tapes; they have a finite life span starting from the day they left the factory. And, the last I heard,

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ussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Pete Borton Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 7:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: 3490E cartridges Thanks to all who replied. Our dilemma is that we still supply our software on 3480s! We've got a new z9 and a 3490 drive and tho

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2009/3/1 Paul Gilmartin : > On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:16:01 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote: >> >>The next step may well be direct SMP/E RECEIVE FROMNET or even RECEIVE >>ORDER, though these certainly won't work for all customers. >> > However, IBM provides instructions for use of RECEIVE FROMNETWORK/ORDER

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> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On > Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2009 9:55 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: 3490E cartridges > > On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 09:40:38 -0500, Fa

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On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 09:40:38 -0500, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote: > >PMFJI here, but why do you still force your customers to have to read >actual tapes of any kind at all? > > ... Even without changing your maintenance >and package build procedures, you can generate an AWS

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On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:16:01 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote: > >The next step may well be direct SMP/E RECEIVE FROMNET or even RECEIVE >ORDER, though these certainly won't work for all customers. > However, IBM provides instructions for use of RECEIVE FROMNETWORK/ORDER for Internet-disconnected customer

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2009-02-28 Pete Borton : > We supply some customers on CD, but others appear to be even more 'jurassic' > than we are, and insist (I'm led to believe) on tape cartridge. We led ourselves to believe that for several years, but when we were faced with the complication of a tape upgrade in 2005, we

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be a possibility for this. Pete -Original Message- From: Farley, Peter x23353 [mailto:peter.far...@broadridge.com] Sent: 28 February 2009 14:41 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: 3490E cartridges > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...

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> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On > Behalf Of Pete Borton > Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 8:30 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: 3490E cartridges > > Thanks to all who replied. Our dilemma is

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There's some on ebay. Jay -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Pete Borton Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 8:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: 3490E cartridges Thanks to all who replied. Our dilemma is th

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7 February 2009 22:55 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: 3490E cartridges Pete Borton wrote: > We are having problems locating supplies of 3490E tape cartridges in the UK. > Imation say they have been 'end of life'd. Does anyone know an > alternative supplier ? Could we writ

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Re: 3490E cartridges

Pete Borton wrote: We are having problems locating supplies of 3490E tape cartridges in the UK. Imation say they have been 'end of life'd. Does anyone know an alternative supplier ? Could we write 3590E's on a 36-track drive ? You might consider upgrading to 3590s. They're denser, faster,

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Pete, No, you cannot use 3590 cartridges on a 3490 type drive. They are NOT compatible. Russell -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu]on Behalf Of Pete Borton Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 4:49 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: 3490E

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We are having problems locating supplies of 3490E tape cartridges in the UK. Imation say they have been 'end of life'd. Does anyone know an alternative supplier ? Could we write 3590E's on a 36-track drive ? Thanks Pete -- F