Re: GDG QUESTION

2008-11-14 Thread Howard Rifkind
frame Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Rifkind Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 5:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: GDG QUESTION Hello all, I'm having problems with a GDG definition/datasets. I use the following JCL to set the GDG up: //DEFGDG EXEC PGM=ID

Re: GDG QUESTION

2008-11-14 Thread Linda Mooney
Hi Howard, The JCL you ran defined the GDG and the 3.4 display is what I would expect to see for the catalogued GSG base. You can create 5 generations and the 6th will cause the oldest to roll off the catalogue and be scratched. The GDG base is not a dataset, it is a catalogue entry only, a f

Re: GDG QUESTION

2008-11-14 Thread Campbell Jay
-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: GDG QUESTION Hello all, I'm having problems with a GDG definition/datasets. I use the following JCL to set the GDG up: //DEFGDG EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSINDD * DE

Re: GDG QUESTION

2008-11-14 Thread Howard Rifkind
Sorry for the typo, this should have been: DUMPIN DD DISP=SHR,DSN=PCYC.TMVHSTM.TMVS04.IRR NOT TMVS01 >>> Howard Rifkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/14/2008 5:42 PM >>> Hello all, I'm having problems with a GDG definition/datasets. I use the following JCL to set the GDG up: //DEFGDG EXEC PGM=I

GDG QUESTION

2008-11-14 Thread Howard Rifkind
Hello all, I'm having problems with a GDG definition/datasets. I use the following JCL to set the GDG up: //DEFGDG EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSINDD * DEF GDG(NAME('PCYC.TMVHSTM.TMVS04.IRR') LIMIT(05)

Re: GDG question

2007-08-15 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:10:54 -0400 "Hare, Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :>I need to move some existing GDG datasets from tape to disk. Normally, I would create a new version of each generation (V00 to V01, etc.), however these are created by a product which records the dataset name when they

GDG question

2007-08-15 Thread Hare, Tim
I need to move some existing GDG datasets from tape to disk. Normally, I would create a new version of each generation (V00 to V01, etc.), however these are created by a product which records the dataset name when they are created, and uses the actual name (whatever.G0001V00) when referencing t

Re: gdg question

2007-04-26 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>did not realize that referencing the new GDG entry in a subsequent step would >retain the original ENQ EXCLUSIVE. You'll find ENQ's promoted, but never demoted. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: gdg question

2007-04-26 Thread Smith, Sean M
Thanks for sharing the info on this Bruce: Remember that it is true that a SYSDSN ENQ is held until the end of last step that references the dataset. this is also true for GDG bases. My test showed that this is true, both ENQs were released at the end of the first step. But if you have a jo

Re: gdg question

2007-04-11 Thread Rick Fochtman
can one of you gurus out there please shed some light on this, since i am not sure what the answer should be or whether or not this is normal, since these jobs supposedly have been running and working for the last 20 years (although i

Re: gdg question

2007-04-11 Thread Bruce Black
IFF the file had been created on DASD you probably would not have seen a problem. BUT because the file was created on a removeable media (TAPE/CART), the CATALOG process does not complete until JOB END (which I would think should be step end, but hey, what do I know?). This happens whether or no

Re: gdg question

2007-04-11 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Yes, JOBB did start first, but apparently for the first time in 20 years!! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fletcher, Kevin Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: gdg question Eileen, I

Re: gdg question

2007-04-11 Thread Barkow, Eileen
Subject: Re: gdg question -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barkow, Eileen Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 12:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: gdg question can one of you gurus out there please shed some light on this, since i am

Re: gdg question

2007-04-11 Thread David Hanson
I'm no guru but I would say that the JOBB has and ENQUE on the base because you said DISP=OLD with a releative #. If you specified the actual generation by dataset name .GVnn I believe you would be allset. Thanks, Dave Hanson 464-8889 ---

Re: gdg question

2007-04-11 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barkow, Eileen Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 12:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: gdg question can one of you gurus out there please shed some light on this, since i am not sure what the

Re: gdg question

2007-04-11 Thread Fletcher, Kevin
, Eileen Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:39 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: gdg question can one of you gurus out there please shed some light on this, since i am not sure what the answer should be or whether or not this is normal, since these jobs supposedly have been running and working

Re: gdg question

2007-04-11 Thread Clark, Kevin
Eileen, If I understand correctly, The GDG BASE is being ENQUEUED. Kevin (not a guru) Clark >>> 3. JOBA remains on the execution queue waiting for the dataset: IEF863I DSN = .PTNT.SASFILE.NEW JOBA IEF099I JOB TBCDAILY WAITING FOR DATA SETS now, why is the IEF863

Re: gdg question

2007-04-11 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barkow, Eileen > Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 12:39 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: gdg question > > can one of you gurus out there please shed some lig

gdg question

2007-04-11 Thread Barkow, Eileen
can one of you gurus out there please shed some light on this, since i am not sure what the answer should be or whether or not this is normal, since these jobs supposedly have been running and working for the last 20 years (although i am not sure if they ever ran at the same time). normally th

Re: GDG question

2007-02-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/01/2007 at 11:20 AM, Tim Hare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >In essence one generation per day of month, with missing generations >if we don't run that day (state holiday or whatever). How and when will you delete each GDS from the previous year? If you don't delete

Re: GDG question

2007-02-03 Thread Andreas F. Geissbuehler
ww.afgc-inc.com On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 17:41:40 -0500, Thompson, Steve (SCI TW) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >-Original Message- >From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of Tim Hare >Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:20 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@B

Re: GDG question

2007-02-01 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3)
>Now, based on the SMS comment by someone, you can create 1 track >GDS with V00 that are empty (OPEN/CLOSE w/ no write/put). Then the >real ones can use V0x. SMS shouldn't have a problem with "holes", >because there won't be any. > >But you will take up space for a dummy file for each day of the

Re: GDG question

2007-02-01 Thread Thompson, Steve (SCI TW)
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Hare Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: GDG question I'm pretty sure I can do this, but I'm looking for a second opinion (and "you&#

Re: GDG question

2007-02-01 Thread Jack Kelly
I'd be afraid of this especially if they're SMS managed. Roll in seems to have problem with gaps and manual generations but ---> Snip >I want to create twelve GDGs, prefix.whatever.JAN, prefix.whatever.FEB >and so forth. > >Then, instead of creating prefix.whatever.JAN(+1) I want to crea

Re: GDG question

2007-02-01 Thread Scott Barry
on this forum and I would consider that the same could apply in this application but clearly with some research, test scenarios and well-documented restart/recovery procedures. Sincerely, Scott Barry SBBWorks, Inc. ____ From: Tim Hare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:

Re: GDG question

2007-02-01 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Doesn't BR14 cause dateset recalls for datasets migrated by HSM? Idcams Delete would be much faster if recalls are an issue. -Original Message- From: Dave Kopischke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 1:40 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: GDG que

Re: GDG question

2007-02-01 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 11:13:26 -0600, Hal Merritt wrote: >Elegant. I like that. It ought to work just fine. > >We make heavy use of such symbols. The price we pay is a setup >(MOD,DELETE) step to position for a rerun. Now, this works very well, >but the MOD,DELETE step for hundreds and hundreds of st

Re: GDG question

2007-02-01 Thread Hal Merritt
al Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Hare Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: GDG question I'm pretty sure I can do this, but I'm looking for a second opinion (and "you're ugly, to

Re: GDG question

2007-02-01 Thread Lizette Koehler
Well, what is the impact if you run twice in the same day? JCL Errors, erroneous data? How do you know if the data was not collected because it was not there or it just failed to run? Personally, I would rather have function that explicitly create the GDG for the day, then have a preprocessor

Re: GDG question

2007-02-01 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Hare > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:20 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: GDG question > > > I'm pretty sure I can do this, but I'm

Re: GDG question

2007-02-01 Thread Chris Hoelscher
when you reference a GDG dataset by the root name only, I believe it reads the individual datasets LIFO rather than FIFO (or at least from highest # to lowest # - if may not actually look at when created) - if the order of input read is improtatn to you, than this might not be a satisfactory me

GDG question

2007-02-01 Thread Tim Hare
I'm pretty sure I can do this, but I'm looking for a second opinion (and "you're ugly, too" as my coworker said doesn't count ). I have the assistance of a job scheduler which can substitute variables in JCL to help with this idea, so bear that in mind. I want to create twelve GDGs, prefix.wh

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