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Behalf Of Howard Rifkind
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 5:43 PM
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Subject: GDG QUESTION
Hello all,
I'm having problems with a GDG definition/datasets.
I use the following JCL to set the GDG up:
//DEFGDG EXEC PGM=ID
Hi Howard,
The JCL you ran defined the GDG and the 3.4 display is what I would expect to
see for the catalogued GSG base. You can create 5 generations and the 6th will
cause the oldest to roll off the catalogue and be scratched. The GDG base is
not a dataset, it is a catalogue entry only, a f
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Subject: GDG QUESTION
Hello all,
I'm having problems with a GDG definition/datasets.
I use the following JCL to set the GDG up:
//DEFGDG EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD *
DE
Sorry for the typo, this should have been:
DUMPIN DD DISP=SHR,DSN=PCYC.TMVHSTM.TMVS04.IRR NOT TMVS01
>>> Howard Rifkind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/14/2008 5:42 PM >>>
Hello all,
I'm having problems with a GDG definition/datasets.
I use the following JCL to set the GDG up:
//DEFGDG EXEC PGM=I
Hello all,
I'm having problems with a GDG definition/datasets.
I use the following JCL to set the GDG up:
//DEFGDG EXEC PGM=IDCAMS
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSINDD *
DEF GDG(NAME('PCYC.TMVHSTM.TMVS04.IRR')
LIMIT(05)
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 11:10:54 -0400 "Hare, Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
:>I need to move some existing GDG datasets from tape to disk. Normally, I
would create a new version of each generation (V00 to V01, etc.), however these
are created by a product which records the dataset name when they
I need to move some existing GDG datasets from tape to disk. Normally, I would
create a new version of each generation (V00 to V01, etc.), however these are
created by a product which records the dataset name when they are created, and
uses the actual name (whatever.G0001V00) when referencing t
>did not realize that referencing the new GDG entry in a subsequent step would
>retain the original ENQ EXCLUSIVE.
You'll find ENQ's promoted, but never demoted.
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Thanks for sharing the info on this Bruce:
Remember that it is true that a SYSDSN ENQ is held until the end of last
step that references the dataset. this is also true for GDG bases. My
test showed that this is true, both ENQs were released at the end of the
first step. But if you have a jo
can one of you gurus out there please shed some light on this, since i
am not sure what the answer should be or whether or not this is normal,
since
these jobs supposedly have been running and working for the last 20
years (although i
IFF the file had been created on DASD you probably would not have seen a
problem. BUT because the file was created on a removeable media
(TAPE/CART), the CATALOG process does not complete until JOB END (which
I would think should be step end, but hey, what do I know?).
This happens whether or no
Yes, JOBB did start first, but apparently for the first time in 20
years!!
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Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:47 PM
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Subject: Re: gdg question
Eileen,
I
Subject: Re: gdg question
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Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 12:39 PM
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Subject: gdg question
can one of you gurus out there please shed some light on this, since i
am
I'm no guru but I would say that the JOBB has and ENQUE on the base because
you said DISP=OLD with a releative #. If you specified the actual
generation
by dataset name .GVnn I believe you would be allset.
Thanks, Dave Hanson
464-8889
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Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 12:39 PM
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Subject: gdg question
can one of you gurus out there please shed some light on this, since i
am not sure what the
, Eileen
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 1:39 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: gdg question
can one of you gurus out there please shed some light on this, since i
am not sure what the answer should be or whether or not this is normal,
since
these jobs supposedly have been running and working
Eileen,
If I understand correctly, The GDG BASE is being ENQUEUED.
Kevin (not a guru) Clark
>>>
3. JOBA remains on the execution queue waiting for the dataset:
IEF863I DSN = .PTNT.SASFILE.NEW JOBA
IEF099I JOB TBCDAILY WAITING FOR DATA SETS
now, why is the IEF863
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> can one of you gurus out there please shed some lig
can one of you gurus out there please shed some light on this, since i
am not sure what the answer should be or whether or not this is normal,
since
these jobs supposedly have been running and working for the last 20
years (although i am not sure if they ever ran at the same time).
normally th
In
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
on 02/01/2007
at 11:20 AM, Tim Hare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>In essence one generation per day of month, with missing generations
>if we don't run that day (state holiday or whatever).
How and when will you delete each GDS from the previous year? If you
don't delete
ww.afgc-inc.com
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 17:41:40 -0500, Thompson, Steve (SCI TW)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>Now, based on the SMS comment by someone, you can create 1 track
>GDS with V00 that are empty (OPEN/CLOSE w/ no write/put). Then the
>real ones can use V0x. SMS shouldn't have a problem with "holes",
>because there won't be any.
>
>But you will take up space for a dummy file for each day of the
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:20 AM
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Subject: GDG question
I'm pretty sure I can do this, but I'm looking for a second opinion (and
"you
I'd be afraid of this especially if they're SMS managed. Roll in seems to
have problem with gaps and manual generations but
---> Snip
>I want to create twelve GDGs, prefix.whatever.JAN, prefix.whatever.FEB
>and so forth.
>
>Then, instead of creating prefix.whatever.JAN(+1) I want to crea
on this forum and I would consider that the same
could apply in this
application but clearly with some research, test scenarios and well-documented
restart/recovery
procedures.
Sincerely,
Scott Barry
SBBWorks, Inc.
____
From: Tim Hare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject:
Doesn't BR14 cause dateset recalls for datasets migrated by HSM?
Idcams Delete would be much faster if recalls are an issue.
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From: Dave Kopischke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 1:40 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: GDG que
On Thu, 1 Feb 2007 11:13:26 -0600, Hal Merritt wrote:
>Elegant. I like that. It ought to work just fine.
>
>We make heavy use of such symbols. The price we pay is a setup
>(MOD,DELETE) step to position for a rerun. Now, this works very well,
>but the MOD,DELETE step for hundreds and hundreds of st
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Subject: GDG question
I'm pretty sure I can do this, but I'm looking for a second opinion (and
"you're ugly, to
Well, what is the impact if you run twice in the same day? JCL Errors,
erroneous data? How do you know if the data was not collected because it was
not there or it just failed to run?
Personally, I would rather have function that explicitly create the GDG for the
day, then have a preprocessor
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>
> I'm pretty sure I can do this, but I'm
when you reference a GDG dataset by the root name only, I believe it reads
the individual datasets LIFO rather than FIFO (or at least from highest #
to lowest # - if may not actually look at when created) - if the order of
input read is improtatn to you, than this might not be a satisfactory
me
I'm pretty sure I can do this, but I'm looking for a second opinion (and
"you're ugly, too" as my coworker said doesn't count ).
I have the assistance of a job scheduler which can substitute variables in
JCL to help with this idea, so bear that in mind.
I want to create twelve GDGs, prefix.wh
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