Yep, at least!
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> To replace base S
To replace base SYSVIEW I would think you would need at least a general
systems programmer tool kit product like MXI www.rs.com and a capable
spool browser and JES control like IOF, EJES, or SDSF.
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BAN!
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>>> David Cole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 4/24/2008 8:56 AM >>>
z/XDC is a SUPERIOR WORLD CLASS(!) Assembler Debugging Tool!
[sorry, i just couldn't resist]
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At 4/24/2008 09:15 AM, McKown, John wrote:
World Class? Is that __all__?? From the users, it sounds more like at
least Solar class! Maybe even Globular cluster or Galaxy class.
Hyper-instellar subspace class? Multiverse class? For the esoteric:
Brane-class.
It takes a real brain to understand b
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At 4/24/2008 03:08 AM, Edward Jaffe wrote:
I realize it's a fine line ISVs tread within an open technical
discussion. I try not to cross it (don't know if I'm always
successful) as did the late Bruce Black, and as do Chris Craddock,
Wayne Driscoll, Rob Scott, Bob Shannon, Tom Harper, Scott Fage
Shane wrote:
Mmmm - sign of the times I'm afraid. At least Norman now (sometimes)
includes his association with the vendor in question.
A question was asked, he responded.
When questions get raised here, sometimes products get dumped on, so
vendors defending/promoting their products also must be
> How refreshing to see that IBM-MAIN has become the new forum for
> advertising the merits of one's own "world class" products. And, why
> not? Where else can you get better exposure for the price?
The guy was explaining/answering issues/questions about the product.
But, I think he went too far
On Tue, 2008-04-22 at 09:42 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:
> How refreshing to see that IBM-MAIN has become the new forum for
> advertising the merits of one's own "world class" products. And, why
> not? Where else can you get better exposure for the price?
Mmmm - sign of the times I'm afraid. At l
Tweeet. Foul.
This was not a simple advertisement.
Questions were raised about the product and its features compared to SDSF. He
is fully justified in responding.
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 09:42:55 -0700 Edward Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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:>Norman Hollander on h-WiZ.biz wrote:
:>> SYSVIEW
Norman Hollander on h-WiZ.biz wrote:
SYSVIEW absolutely provides the exact same information and processes that
you use in SDSF today. In fact, SYSVIEW provides more information than
SDSF. You can use the same commands that you use in SDSF, today.
The SPOOL feature is included with the base prod
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:19:04 -0700, Norman Hollander on h-WiZ.biz
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I look at SYSVIEW as a world class monitor, for diagnostics,
>problem resolution, and a vehicle for driving automation.
A completely unbiased view no doubt. ;-)
BTW, I do run SYSVIEW here on a c
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Subject: Re: switch from CA-SYSVIEW to SDSF
Perhaps I mis-worded my reply.
While SYSVIEW can provide the informatiion one could derive from SDSF,
SYSVIEW is, in my mind, primalrily a system monitoring tool. If I want to
keep an eye on my system, I turn first, in
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>No, actually they do. You can get the JES2 features of Sysview that
>allow you to mani
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Norman,
What I think Ted is referring to is that way back when OPS/MVS was still owned
by Goal Systems, before Goal merged with Legent, OPS h
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You can absolutely get data from SYSVIEW from OPS/MVS
from CA-SYSVIEW to SDSF
>NO- it was never part of OPS/MVS. But we do have tight integration with it.
>CA SYSVIEW has come a long way from its original incarnation from Legent days.
Ok.
I don't understand.
We had OPS/MVS and SYSVIEW at a site, long before CA bought it.
I was always
>NO- it was never part of OPS/MVS. But we do have tight integration with it.
>CA SYSVIEW has come a long way from its original incarnation from Legent days.
Ok.
I don't understand.
We had OPS/MVS and SYSVIEW at a site, long before CA bought it.
I was always able to get into it through the OPS/M
, 2008 SYSN 05:57 PM
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Subject: Re: switch from CA-SYSVIEW to SDSF
>What was SYSVIEWs name before CA bought it?
George Fogg
SYSVIEW.
It was part of OPS/MVS. I can't remember the vendor.
The new name is CA-SYSVIEW.
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Too busy driving to stop
>What was SYSVIEWs name before CA bought it?
George Fogg
SYSVIEW.
It was part of OPS/MVS. I can't remember the vendor.
The new name is CA-SYSVIEW.
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What was SYSVIEWs name before CA bought it?
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Doug Fuerst
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No, actually they do. You can get the JES2 features of Sysview that
allow you to manipulate the JES like SDSF. I prefer SDSF, but one of the
place I am now uses it
No, actually they do. You can get the JES2 features of Sysview that
allow you to manipulate the JES like SDSF. I prefer SDSF, but one of the
place I am now uses it extensively. Fortunately they also have SDSF so I
was not forced to use Sysview, but I have learned a bit about it, and
can use it
Not completely true. Sysview can also act as a very good spool management
utility in addition to the functions you mentioned and many others (way too
many to list). When I was at a previous company, we actually replaced SDSF
with Sysview. That was several years ago when SDSF wasn't as nice as it is
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Ah... These two products do not provide the same informaiton.
SYSVIEW provides internal, control-bloc
SYSVIEW provides internal, control-block structure information (at a
minimum) while SDSF (Spool Display and Search Facility) provides
information about Jobs in the JES queue.
I'd look at EJES if I was going to switch over. From the above comment
SYSVIEW can be done by EJES and it is certainl
Ah... These two products do not provide the same informaiton.
SYSVIEW provides internal, control-block structure information (at a minimum)
while SDSF (Spool Display and Search Facility) provides informaiton about Jobs
in the JES queue.
On Mon Apr 21 14:39 , Duane Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Has anyone ever switched their users from CA-SYSVIEW to SDSF?
Duane
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