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That is not my intent.
Please do not divulge anything with which you do not feel comfortable.
Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise
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That is not my intent.
Please do not divulge anything with which you do not feel comfortable.
Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise. Thomas Gray
I
Back in the dark ages, we used Tandem's computers connected to an IMS DB/DC
system.
Fred
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Isn't CICS via
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CACcgC5DNeaDU5Xz2VEAxndLMxDR=8s=3d33wgory5yj2wgj...@mail.gmail.com,
on 02/16/2012
at 04:18 PM, George Henke gahe...@gmail.com said:
I am trying to find out how much staff, numbers and titles, eg z/OS,
z/VM, VTAM/TCPIP, CICS, etc, are needed to run a large zSeries
mainframe shop.
What are
end up with anything between 2 and
200 people per CEC.
Bart
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I am trying
tyvm, Timothy, for your expert analysis.
Please pardon my ignorance, but what is a PCI?
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 2:27 AM, Timothy Sipples timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com
wrote:
George Henke observes:
The feedback I have gotten so far, based on a few private replies, is
about
8 - 12 people per
The largest MF shop I have worked for supported 10 sysplex, 44 lpars, at
least 20 processors, across 3 continents.
The support staff was (as best I can recall) z/OS and program products
including most vendor software (9), CICS/VTAM/TCPIP (6), IMS/DB2/MQ
(sysprog only) (5)
DBA's and other were
Excluding applications
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 4:18 PM, George Henke gahe...@gmail.com wrote:
I am trying to find out how much staff, numbers and titles, eg z/OS, z/VM,
VTAM/TCPIP, CICS, etc, are needed to run a large zSeries mainframe shop.
Would some of you be so kind as to share that
tyvm, Timothy, for your expert analysis.
Please pardon my ignorance, but what is a PCI?
PCI has to do with Payments for Credit Cards and their security.
The PCI Security Standards Council offers robust and comprehensive standards
and supporting materials to enhance payment card data
PCI:
_P_ersonal
_C_ard
_I_ndustry
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Lizette Koehler
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tyvm, Timothy, for your expert
: zSeries Manpower Sizing
I am trying to find out how much staff, numbers and titles, eg z/OS, z/VM,
VTAM/TCPIP, CICS, etc, are needed to run a large zSeries mainframe shop.
Would some of you be so kind as to share that information with me.
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Subject: Re: zSeries Manpower Sizing
tyvm, Timothy, for your expert analysis.
Please pardon my ignorance, but what is a PCI?
PCI has to do with Payments for Credit Cards and their security.
The PCI Security Standards Council offers robust and comprehensive standards
Tyvm Lizette didn't know what it was either. I have a ton of banking customers,
you just made me a tad smarter...Ty
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On Feb 17, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote:
tyvm, Timothy, for
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tyvm, Timothy, for your expert analysis.
Please pardon my ignorance, but what is a PCI?
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I think you really mean _P_ Payment Card Industry
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PCI:
_P_ersonal
_C_ard
Of
Field, Alan C.
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I think you really mean _P_ Payment Card Industry
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tyvm, Timothy, for your expert analysis.
Please pardon my ignorance, but what is a PCI
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tyvm, Timothy, for your expert analysis.
Please pardon my ignorance, but what is a PCI?
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W dniu 2012-02-17 19:46, George Henke pisze:
tyvm, both Radoslaw again and Jihad.
I had Wikied it but all I got back was Payment Card Industry, not even
Peripheral Component Interconnect. And that did not fit the context, as
Radoslaw noted.
Maybe you would like to update Wiki.
Now all I need
Manpower Sizing
tyvm, both Radoslaw again and Jihad.
I had Wikied it but all I got back was Payment Card Industry, not even
Peripheral Component Interconnect. And that did not fit the context, as
Radoslaw noted.
Maybe you would like to update Wiki.
Now all I need to know is how PCI
Wow, imagine running a PCI application on USS. ;-)
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W dniu 2012-02-17 19:46
stars...@mindspring.com (Lizette Koehler) writes:
PCI has to do with Payments for Credit Cards and their security.
PCI was somewhat in response to the cal. state data breach discloser
(and later other states) legislation.
we were tangentially involved being, brought in to help wordsmith
the
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tyvm, both Radoslaw again and Jihad.
I had
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Wow, imagine running a PCI application on USS. ;-)
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Bart Grijn writes:
There are large shops that run large mainframes, but they likely run
other platforms as well and a large part of the manpower will be
shared across platforms.
That's an excellent point. There's a common accounting measurement (FTEs =
Full-Time Equivalents) used to tally up
I am trying to find out how much staff, numbers and titles, eg z/OS, z/VM,
VTAM/TCPIP, CICS, etc, are needed to run a large zSeries mainframe shop.
Would some of you be so kind as to share that information with me.
--
George Henke
(C) 845 401 5614
I am trying to find out how much staff, numbers and titles, eg z/OS, z/VM,
VTAM/TCPIP, CICS, etc, are needed to run a large zSeries mainframe shop.
Would some of you be so kind as to share that information with me.
--
George Henke
(C) 845 401 5614
George the only answer I can give
, what do they support.
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Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 5:21 PM
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I am trying to find out how much staff
Yep Lizette, and how much money is in the budget ...
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On Feb 16, 2012, at 5:21 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote:
I am trying to find out how much staff, numbers and titles, eg z/OS, z/VM,
That is not my intent.
Please do not divulge anything with which you do not feel comfortable.
Where ignorance is bliss, 'tis folly to be wise. Thomas Gray
I am just trying to get a sense, a reasonability check, on how
labor-intensive a large zSeries shop is.
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 6:11 PM,
George,
I worked for a large American company aboard, one of the top 5 in the world, we
has a staff including mgmt around 200, that was MVS , VM , Communications, and
DR.
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On Feb 16, 2012, at 6:19 PM, George Henke
ty, Scott, but 200 people must have supported many data centers.
The feedback I have gotten so far, based on a few private replies, is about
8 - 12 people per CEC.
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote:
George,
I worked for a large American company aboard,
George,
I have worked for 20+ shops consulting and full time, this one I referred to
was European HQ.
Most of the other places systems staffs were 20+ , I worked most of those shops
in NYC, numbers are small also, because of this economy, cutbacks.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of George Henke
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Subject: zSeries Manpower Sizing
I am trying to find out how much staff, numbers and titles, eg z/OS, z
My experience as a SYSPROG was a while back at a smallish insurance company in
Vancouver. IIRC, this was a mid-size ES9000 running OS/390, CICS/ESA, and DB2.
I think we had TCP/IP networking via Token-Ring attachment to a 3174
controller. I know we all ran DOS PC's running some 3270 emulator.
John,
I worked a twin 4381 VM and VM/VSE shop for awhile and we had about the same
amount of ppl
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On Feb 16, 2012, at 7:29 PM, Roberts, John J jrobe...@dhs.state.ia.us wrote:
My experience as a SYSPROG was a while
George Henke observes:
The feedback I have gotten so far, based on a few private replies, is
about
8 - 12 people per CEC.
Maybe, but that doesn't mean when you double the number of CECs you would
double the number of people, or vice versa. That is, you can't extrapolate
linearly in either
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