Hi Dave co-listers,
1°
Is OMEGAMON capable of drilling down into MVS Overhead ?
If not, how can further PD (Problem Detemination) be done?
2°
Is the CPU-MF HIS approach based on SMF113 not too long-winded and
over-doing?
CPU-MF (HIS) NOT being a substitute for traditional performance nor
No, unlike C, which has only pointers to functions, PL/I has procedure
variables, which may of course be based, pointed to.
A pointer, inclusive of a procedure pointer, should be just a pointer,
no different from a pointer to an aggregate or scalar. What that
pointer points to may of course have
In my previous post
= addr(s) ;
is properly
sp = addr(s) ;
John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA
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Thank you all for comments.
Joel, this is exactly what happens: if our rolling 4-hour MSU average starts
with too high numbers in the morning, we are in trouble at noon. Of course that
we monitor it and manage it, and constantly working on prevention (Werner,
thank you for the idea of assigning
Donald, I can't help you with Test but you are welcome to install our TDF
system for a no charge trial to see how it compares. I'll be happy to work
with you directly to ensure you know how to do what you need. Just email me
privately and we can get you started.
Chuck Arney
cross posted to DB2-L and IBM-MAIN.
I'm trying to run DSNTIJEN to upgrade to DB2 V10 new function but the job
is failing on the reorg of SPT01. Following are the SMS messages.
IGD17272I VOLUME SELECTION HAS FAILED FOR INSUFFICIENT SPACE FOR 808
DATA SET DB2E.IMAGCOPY.SPT01.D2013052.T125957
Jim
Does you SMS definitions have Extended Format Extended Address for the VSAM
allocations? I think that is in the DATACLAS definition for this file?
Since I do not see a DATACLAS defined, I am guessing it does not. For most
of your DB2 files you should have a DATACLAS with Extended Format
I think what Gerhard meant is that Jan should have
L 15,CVTSRM-CVTMAP(,15) instead of L 15,CVTSRM-CVT(,15)
If Gerhard meant that, he would have been incorrect. CVT is the name of
the DSECT when CVT DSECT=YES is used.
CVTMAP is a name for the beginning as well. I have no idea why it even
Lizette,
I thought that was only for the DB2 catalog and directory. This is just
for an image copy dataset, does that requires those attributes also ?
Jim
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.comwrote:
Jim
Does you SMS definitions have Extended Format
Jim,
You might want to define a dataclass with the following attributes:
Data Set Name Type .large . . . .(EXT, HFS, LIB, PDS, Large or blank)
If Ext . . . . . . . . . .(P=Preferred, R=Required or blank)
Extended Addressability . . N (Y or N)
We don't have DB2, but most of our production DATACLAS entries include
Data Space Constraint Release of Yes and a value in Reduce Space Up
To. I don't know if these values are compatible with DB2 allocations or
not.
On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.comwrote:
Jim,
Yes, Ext Add applies to physical sequential as well as VSAM.
Dave O'Brien
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You might also want to consider the DSNTYPE=LARGE if you are going to put
this on DASD. And ensure you have sufficient space in the pool. This may
prevent future issues.
However, as others have pointed out. An Image Copy is probably better on
Tape than DASD. But if your shop does not have
Hello group:
I trying to capture some Brobdingnagian SVC dump, and DUMPSRV keeps failing on
space. I'm fairly sure I can increase the size of the dump data set with a
DSNTYPE=LARGE but I can't remember how or where that's done.
Anne R. Adams
DTI, Systems Engineering
Hi Jim,
It's this one that's the issue:-
IGD17279I 12 VOLUMES WERE REJECTED BECAUSE OF INSUFF TOTAL SPACE
Which translates to:-
The primary quantity requested was larger than the total capacity of the
largest
available volume. See z/OS DFSMSdfp Storage Administration for a detailed
You need the dsntype=large due to the Primary allocation. If you reduce the
Primary to say 2000 cyls then the allocation should work with just the volcount
of 5.
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To:
On 02/21/13 09:22, Adams, Anne (DTI) wrote:
Hello group:
I trying to capture some Brobdingnagian SVC dump, and DUMPSRV keeps failing on
space. I'm fairly sure I can increase the size of the dump data set with a
DSNTYPE=LARGE but I can't remember how or where that's done.
Anne R. Adams
DTI,
Hi Jim,
what are your primary secondary allocations? if your dataclas doesnt have
space constraint relief it will still try and get it in one lump.
If i'm doing my calcualations right, thats @5120 cyls for the first one.
Try an allocation of 1000,100
Cheers
Dave
Alternatively, add the keyword LARGE to the end of the invocation of AMDSADDD,
e.g.
AMDSADDD DEFINE (SADMP1)(SYS0.SADMP) (3390,,DCSADMP) 30040 YES LARGE
On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 09:58:40 -0500, Mark Jacobs mark.jac...@custserv.com
wrote:
On 02/21/13 09:22, Adams, Anne (DTI) wrote:
Hello group:
Hi all,
For some volume reasons, we want to automatically purge jobs that ended with a
RC=0.
But we don't want to do it, for CPU and Spool reasons, with a JES2 command. We
want to do it automatically.
I'm sure that somebody already had the same need, no ?
Any Idea ?
Thank in advance ...
Yann
Hi Yann,
there is a big flaw in this, in that the fact that the job has a rc of zero
doesnt always mean that it has worked sucessfully as designed.
I think you would be better off using RMDS (or a similar product) to offload
production joblogs from your spool to disk and have sms assign a
jwgli...@gmail.com (John Gilmore) writes:
The matter can be put in even more forthright fashion. Operational IT
costs can be significant for, say, a bank or an airline.
IT-development costs and IT-group budgets, on the other hand, are
trivial. Their effect on the bottom line is seldom
In your JES2 parameter member, you can specify the following:
OUTCLASS(v) OUTDISP=(PURGE,WRITE)
This will cause class v output to be purged if the job does not ABEND, and
left on the output queue if it does.
On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 15:15:29 +, CUNY Yann yann.cuny.anta...@axa-tech.com
wrote:
Thanks very much Art. It is easy enough to test the WTPMSG profile setting, so
I did. It appears to have no influence on this. I run my session with WTPMSG.
If I set my profile to NOWTPMSG, I still get the IGD msg for FileAid (while I
don't get it for ispf 3.2). Next, I edited the 'F2' clist
Hi David,
Thanks for your answer,
The problem is that we are scheduling 200 000 jobs per day in our production.
Even we launch a JES command to purge the spool every hour (for example), we
have a risk to saturate the JES2 Spool.
Currently, all jobs are rerouted in EOS, but because of the
That was a possibility.
But a RC=12 for example, is considered as a normal completion.
That's why we wanted to only purge the RC=0 jobs.
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JES2 exit 28 is an end of job exit. I don't see an equivalent for JES3,
but I'm ignorant of JES3. The OP seems, like us, to be concerned about CPU
utilization. So something like RMDS or JMR (CA) or maybe SyzSPOOL/z (
http://www.syzygyinc.com/SyzSpool.htm) might be unacceptable. SyzSPOOL/z
might
Another trick you could use (but which you may not want to use) would be to add
a last step which only executes if a prior step gets a non-zero return code,
and which ABENDs. That would prevent the job from being purged.
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On 2/21/2013 7:54 AM, Peter Relson wrote:
I think what Gerhard meant is that Jan should have
L 15,CVTSRM-CVTMAP(,15) instead of L 15,CVTSRM-CVT(,15)
If Gerhard meant that, he would have been incorrect. CVT is the name of
the DSECT when CVT DSECT=YES is used.
CVTMAP is a name for the
We were looking in this way ... and will take this solution if there is no
other ...
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Jan,
it appears the monitor is trying to tell you that you have a low capture
ratio. Searching for that term should give you a good understanding of what
the message really means, and in a lot of good advice, e.g. in the Effective
zSeries Performance Monitoring Using Resource Measurement
Anne,
I think you create the appropriate dataclas in SMS and then use the DD ADD
command to establish it
DD ADD,SMS=(DUMPC1,DMPADIT)
Or have the ACS code set it up.
From a previous thread by Jim Mulder
In z/OS 1.13, SDUMP specifies the DSNTYPE=LARGE
text unit when dynamically allocating a
On 20 Feb 2013 13:37:40 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main Leslie wrote:
On Wednesday 20 February 2013 02:15:51 Thomas Berg wrote:
It's not the features that are bad in those instances, but rather the
syntax for requesting the features; that syntax is about as far from
the purported
Are they in a SMS class getting the extended attribute? I recall having to make
that change for V10.
Paul
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Low priority work may have exclusive access to other resources (locks,
enqueues, memory, etc.) which blocks (i.e., effectively preempts) higher
priority work.
In most cases, this type of preemption does not last long enough to be
significant; however, when your system is on running on the edge
Thanks for the replieds, i was able to make it work.
Regards
Ron T
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On 2/21/2013 11:13 AM, Richard Peurifoy wrote:
Just to cover all the bases, if you specify a label when invoking
the CVT macro, that label will be used rather than CVTMAP.
I just confirmed that; I've been using CVTMAP for forty-odd years and
never noticed that. And I had been burned on not
LOL
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On Wed, 20 Feb 2013 07:52:40 -0600, Ron Wells
I have a simple panel that contains over 100 rows within a scrollable area.
When I scroll down to the line I want to update, insert the data into the input
field and hit ENTER the panel is re-displayed as if it was scrolled back to the
top. To verify that the data was correct I have to scroll
In simplier terms, both the chicken and the egg may have been first.
Don
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Yeah, it is annoying, but...
Naming standards to change over time (50+ years for MVS), from component to
component, and due to reorganizations, mergers, acqusitions, etc.
Therefore the old grandfathered names are typically going to be
inconsistent. Then there is the code that existed prior to
Peter Relson wrote:
I must admit that I'm surprised you'd get
ASMA044E Undefined symbol - CVT
in such a case. But you do. That does not seem like the best message for
this situation.
Here's a testcase:
TEST CSECT
SYSEVENT QVS
CVT USING LCVT,11
LCVT DSECT
LCVT1
I agree with Dave, that there can be hidden problems.
However, if you still want to purge RC=0 jobs, refer to the JES2 Initialization
and Tuning Reference.
The JOBCLASS/STCCLASS/TSUCLASS parmlib statement has several parameters which
can be used:
CONDPURG=Yes|No
Specifies whether (YES) or
If you have access to the submitted JCL or maybe the PROC, you could add a
final abend step.
// IF (RC NE 0) THEN
//ABEND EXEC PGM=ABEND
// ENDIF
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On 2/20/2013 11:00 PM, Donald Likens wrote:
I am having many problems with the IBM debug tool but what is driving me nuts
right now. This is a little difficult for me to explain so hopefully someone
will remember the old TSO TEST commands. What I want to do is (using old TSO
Test terminology)
What you're observing is the default behavior of ISPF dialogs from the
dawn of time. Unfortunately I can't put my hands on an example right now,
but if you want a panel to redisplay 'as before' with the same line on
top, your dialog code needs to remember the line number of the top line
and
Jan,
Omegamon has no way of attributing MVS overhead. It simply subtracts the RMF
processor busy time from the interval time and reports the difference.
Being time-driven, WLM uses very little CPU on it's own behalf. In fact, as
has been pointed out, when capping is in effect, IRD weight
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