Re: Learning Rexx

On 30/12/2013 11:11 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >Most VMers claim that Rexx is superior on VM because of CMS pipes. >That's a pretty strong argument. > That's analogous to claiming that Rexx is superior on z/OS because of "address SYSCALL" (others might say ISPEXEC/ISREDIT). Perhaps. But pipes a

Re: Spawned Address Space Control in tcsh shell

John , " This talks about the _BPX_SHAREAS environment variable. This environment variable is not mentioned anywhere in the documentation of tcsh."  Your are right . BPX_SHAREAS cannot be used for tcsh . It is documented in USS planning guide . _BPX_SHAREAS Specifies whether the spawned chi

Re: Major, Minor CDE

In a batch job started by the initiator Not a started task. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 30, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Micheal Butz wrote: > > That would the 4th TCB's TCBRBP > As the first three are related to the > Initiator. > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Dec 30, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Ed Jaffe

Re: BLSR

On 30 December 2013 18:47, Jim Mulder wrote: > BLSR was originally written at Washington Systems Center as > an assembler language subsystem, which was going to be included > with the book "The Subsystem Interface in MVS/SP Version 3 > GC66-3131-00 August 1989" as a sample > program, and nam

Re: JCL DD SUBSYS - how to write the SUBSYS

On 20 July 2012 22:06, Jim Mulder wrote: > The Subsystem Interface in MVS/SP Version 3 GC66-3131-00 > August 1989 I'm guessing this should be GG66-3131. Trivia, and I may well be wrong, but I'm including it here so it becomes searchable. Tony H. ---

Re: Major, Minor CDE

That would the 4th TCB's TCBRBP As the first three are related to the Initiator. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 30, 2013, at 5:49 PM, Ed Jaffe wrote: > >> On 12/30/2013 2:15 PM, Micheal Butz wrote: >> Is there any way of knowing what cdentry represents the program job step > > RBCDE, in the o

Re: Major, Minor CDE

I am doing some XMEM work the user enters an ASID in order to be sure he/she is looking at the right address space I would like to be able to get the job step CDE So for DFHSIP he/she would be looking at a CICS region for IKJEFT01 a TSO address space Etc Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 30, 2013

Re: BLSR

Makes sense.  Thank you! Frank > > From: Jim Mulder >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 4:47 PM >Subject: Re: BLSR > > > >> This is just a curious question about how the JCL DD SUBSYS paramater >works. >> With BLSR you allocate a file

Re: BLSR

> This is just a curious question about how the JCL DD SUBSYS paramater works. > With BLSR you allocate a file to use BLSR with something like this: > > //INETACC DD SUBSYS=(BLSR,'DDNAME=INETACC@ MSG=I', > // 'RMODE31=ALL BUFND=256 BUFNI=64 DEFERW=YES') > //INETACC@ DD DSN=&DSNENV..I

Re: Major, Minor CDE

On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 17:15:23 -0500, Micheal Butz wrote: >I have been chaining the CDE entries looking for the executing program of the >job step. As Ed indicated, RBCDE from the oldest PRB in the jobstep TCB would be the CDE you want, but I'm a bit puzzled why your subject line is asking abou

Re: Maximum Capacity Feature

http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/storage/tape-storage/t1-data-cartridges/overview/index.html 8.5 TB maximum capacity. I assume that includes any built in compression. 2013/12/30 R.S. : > I'm just reading about STK/Sun/Oracle tape drives. The latest T1D drive > has uncomp

Re: Major, Minor CDE

On 12/30/2013 2:15 PM, Micheal Butz wrote: Is there any way of knowing what cdentry represents the program job step RBCDE, in the oldest PRB under the TCB pointed to by TCBJSTCB, contains that address. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 831 Parkview Drive North El Segundo,

Re: VB FTP z/OS to z/OS (again?!)

Since EBCDIC is a specific encoding for text glyphs, I would have to agree with Frank that specifying "EBCDIC" certainly should imply one is discussing "text" data. I have no idea if documentation on z/OS FTP explicitly states that or not; but if its usage there is not intended to imply text data,

Major, Minor CDE

Hi, I have been chaining the CDE entries looking for the executing program of the job step. I started from ASXBFTCB looking at TCBJPQ which had a CDE entry but not for program on the job step. At the third TCB using TCBTCB as a forward chain. Looking at TCBJPQ the 2nd forward chain CDCHAIN I

BLSR

This is just a curious question about how the JCL DD SUBSYS paramater works. With BLSR you allocate a file to use BLSR with something like this: //INETACC  DD SUBSYS=(BLSR,'DDNAME=INETACC@ MSG=I',    // 'RMODE31=ALL BUFND=256 BUFNI=64 DEFERW=YES') //INETACC@ DD DSN=&DSNENV..INET.INETACC, 

Re: VB FTP z/OS to z/OS (again?!)

On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 12:37:36 -0800, Frank Swarbrick wrote: Is there any reason why I would not prefer "binary/record" over "ebcdic/blocked"?� The former seems to make much more sense, since that is in fact what I am doing.� Specifying EBCDIC implies a text file, which this is not (even though i

Re: ▶ One day, a computer will fit on a desk (1974) - YouTube

On Mon, 2013-12-30 at 14:55 -0500, Tony Harminc wrote: > Much earlier the 370/165 and /168 had a Load MicroProgram instruction > that loaded microcode from main storage. X'B9', iirc. Used by OLTEP > tests, I think. I have a hazy memory of the /145 having a similar instruction (possibly a variant o

VB FTP z/OS to z/OS (again?!)

For a z/OS to z/OS file transfer of a VB binary file we can use "binary" and "(structure) record", ie: //FTPVBGET JOB ,'VB FTP GET',NOTIFY=&SYSUID  //EXECFTP  EXEC PGM=FTP,PARM='remote_zos (EXIT'    //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*   

Re: DCF: Can it live again?

On 30 December 2013 08:25, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > on 12/29/2013 at 06:03 PM, Tony Harminc said: > >>I imagine it's written in C, since it runs on Windows and Linux on i86, > > Cite? There are BookManager products on windoze, but I'm not aware of > any that accept DCF, BookMaster or Boo

Re: Learning Rexx

Reifying personal preferences into claims of superiority is a lot like arguing from a mystical experience. They may well be personally compelling; but they don't persuade others. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-

Re: ▶ One day, a computer will fit on a desk (1974) - YouTube

That could make for some VERY interesting results from a bad branch...maybe that's why modern PCs sometimes wedge to the point of needing a power cycle: they've reimplemented this technology! :-D On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Tony Harminc wrote: > On 30 December 2013 10:31, David Andrews wr

Re: ▶ One day, a computer will fit on a desk (1974) - YouTube

On 30 December 2013 10:31, David Andrews wrote: > Though the wikipedia article doesn't mention it, my recollection is that > Magnuson's M80 system was microprogrammable by the user. Anybody > remember/use that? Much earlier the 370/165 and /168 had a Load MicroProgram instruction that loaded mic

Re: OT: humor - the perfect T-shirt - I want one!

Yeah, reminds me of the 70s and 80s Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' > On Dec 30, 2013, at 11:48 AM, John McKown > wrote: > > Bizarro from Monday 30 Dec 2013 > > http://www.arcamax.com/thefunnies/bizarro/ > > > > -- > This is clearly

Re: Need tutorial

On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 22:28:08 +0530, baby eklavya wrote: >Hello , > >Check out the books given below . > >Rexx Programmer's Reference by Howard >Fosdick >. > >Practical Usage of TSO REXX by Anthony S. >Rudd

Re: ▶ One day, a computer will fit on a desk (1974) - YouTube

In 1974, when that video was taped, a desk would fit on a computer.  :-) Bill Fairchild - Original Message - From: "Charles Mills" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 8:26:12 AM Subject: Re: ▶ One day, a computer will fit on a desk (1974) - YouTube It show

OT: humor - the perfect T-shirt - I want one!

Bizarro from Monday 30 Dec 2013 http://www.arcamax.com/thefunnies/bizarro/ -- This is clearly another case of too many mad scientists, and not enough hunchbacks. Maranatha! <>< John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff

Re: ▶ One day, a computer will fit on a desk (1974) - YouTube

David, I remember the magnuson, it was PCM for IBM s/370s, I *think*.. Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' > On Dec 30, 2013, at 10:31 AM, David Andrews wrote: > >> On Sun, 2013-12-29 at 09:50 -0500, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: >> total kern

Re: ▶ One day, a computer will fit on a desk (1974) - YouTube

On Sun, 2013-12-29 at 14:30 -0600, Andy Wood wrote: > HP called it a calculator rather than a computer as a marketing ploy Heh. Bob Brigham once told me that the Bell System made "electronic switching systems" (ESS) because they were prohibited from marketing "computers". -- David Andrews A. Du

Re: ▶ One day, a computer will fit on a desk (1974) - YouTube

On Sun, 2013-12-29 at 09:50 -0500, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: > total kernel time ... moved to microcode gained approx. 72% of kernel > time. Though the wikipedia article doesn't mention it, my recollection is that Magnuson's M80 system was microprogrammable by the user. Anybody remember/use that

Re: Spawned Address Space Control in tcsh shell

On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 09:16:29 -0500, Mark Jacobs wrote: >Thanks for the reply. I changed to tcsh since it seems to work better >than /bin/sh when I ssh to OMVS from my FreeBSD 9.2 workstation. > Examples? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: Learning Rexx

On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 12:20:36 +0800, David Crayford wrote: > >Most VMers claim that Rexx is superior on VM because of CMS pipes. >That's a pretty strong argument. > That's analogous to claiming that Rexx is superior on z/OS because of "address SYSCALL" (others might say ISPEXEC/ISREDIT). -- gil -

Re: Spawned Address Space Control in tcsh shell

On Mon, 30 Dec 2013 07:51:28 -0600, John McKown wrote: > >I note that the description of the fork() function does not mention >_BPX_SHAREAS at all. I therefore conclude that a fork() will always result >in a new address space. > It must, in order that pointers in the child process space validly po

Re: Learning Rexx (was: Need tutorial)

In <07dd01cf055e$eb92e0d0$c2b8a270$@mcn.org>, on 12/30/2013 at 07:59 AM, Charles Mills said: >It's really a separate topic, but I think there is little doubt >that it makes sense to edit code of any sort in some fast >character-at-a-time interactive environment even if the target >compile and

Re: Spawned Address Space Control in tcsh shell

Thanks for the reply. I changed to tcsh since it seems to work better than /bin/sh when I ssh to OMVS from my FreeBSD 9.2 workstation. Mark Jacobs On 12/30/13 08:51, John McKown wrote: This is my take on it. I am not an expert. Nor do I have access to the actual source code. I don't believe th

Re: Spawned Address Space Control in tcsh shell

This is my take on it. I am not an expert. Nor do I have access to the actual source code. I don't believe that tcsh will do what you want. My reasoning is below. In order to run a process in the same address space, the code must use the spawn() function. I base this assertion on http://publibz.bo

Re: DCF: Can it live again?

In , on 12/29/2013 at 06:03 PM, Tony Harminc said: >I imagine it's written in C, since it runs on Windows and Linux on >i86, Cite? There are BookManager products on windoze, but I'm not aware of any that accept DCF, BookMaster or BookManager tags. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg

Spawned Address Space Control in tcsh shell

I was trying to execute a batch cozsftp command using tcsh as the shell, and my dataset allocation (to send a file to an sftp server) kept on failing, either with an unable to stat DD, or when I attempted to allocate the dynamically allocate the dataset, that allocation failed due to it being a

Re: One day, a computer will fit on a desk (1974) - YouTube

In , on 12/29/2013 at 09:50 AM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler said: >note that (at least low-end and mid-range) 360s & 370s were emulation >on some native microprocessor ... so 5100 wasn't all that different. The data paths on the 2030, 2040, 2050, 2065 and 2085 were designed with simulating a S/360 in

Maximum Capacity Feature

I'm just reading about STK/Sun/Oracle tape drives. The latest T1D drive has uncompressed capacity 8TB, but with "Maximum Capacity Feaure" it's 8,5TB. I can't imagine what the feature is, physically. And why it's not always-enabled? Any clue? Happy EOY'13 -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Pola

Re: Need tutorial

Nobody has mentioned much about COBOL. Depending on what the OP wants to learn, and his home system. He might be interested in GNU COBOL (formerly OpenCOBOL) at http://www.opencobol.org . Or, perhaps even more so, zCOBOL, at http://www.z390.org/zcobol/ . zCOBOL runs on Linux and Windows. It is very

Re: Need tutorial

These may be helpful: http://www.kyla.co.uk/other/rexx1.htm http://www.csis.ul.ie/cobol/ -Original Message- From: Rajesh Kumar [mailto:herowith.z...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2013 9:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Need tutorial Hi, I need a good tutorial for

Re: Learning Rexx (was: Need tutorial)

Gee, I don't want to pose as an expert in the relative benefits of various Rexx environments. I have near-zero experience on 'nix and USS, no recent (15 years) experience on CMS, and although I have written large systems in Rexx, I am not at present writing much Rexx beyond basic "TSO helper" scrip

Re: Learning Rexx (was: Need tutorial)

In <5c8fv3f78unypshw9tyopynk.1388251271...@email.android.com>, on 12/28/2013 at 12:21 PM, Charles Mills said: >The user-friendly interactive nature of CMS. Rhat would seem to describe TSO as well. The only place where CMS has a clear edge, IMHO, is XEDIT. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

Re: Need tutorial

In <8988413032026434.wa.herowith.zerogmail@listserv.ua.edu>, on 12/28/2013 at 08:28 AM, Rajesh Kumar said: >I need a good tutorial for rexx and cobol. REXX Reference Summary Handbook, ISBN 0-9639854-2-6 REXX in 21 Days Both out of print, alas. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysPro