I just got in 4 tins of Surströmming from Sweden to try for the first time.
Fish is about 6 inches long, height about 1 inch, quarter inch thick
after gutting.
Put into cans with low salt brine. Looked like smoked salmon, tasted
very salty like anchovies.
Just touching it with a fork and the meat
On Jul 8, 2014, at 7:06 PM, John McKown wrote:
In another shop, and all my previous employers, I did as you said. No
unsupported "freebies". In this shop, saying no is to be placed at
the top
of the RIF list for not being a "team player". And "not supportive".
Hopefully, if/when I get a new
I love pork chitlins, or chicheron baboy is great with a beer.
Used to buy Haggis in Hong Kong that came in a vacuum sealed plastic pouch.
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> Sent: Tuesday,
Not the actual values
Only the form
L AED8. Ar(4)
But you cann't display the Alet
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On Jul 8, 2014, at 7:09 AM, Bob Shannon wrote:
>> Why cann't you display the values of access registers>
>
> I can. If you read the manual you can too.
>
> Bob Shannon
> Rocket Software
In ,
on 07/08/2014
at 11:09 AM, Bob Shannon said:
>>Why cann't you display the values of access registers>
>I can. If you read the manual you can too.
To be fair, you have to read between the lines. Or have they added a
chart of suffixes for register numbers in the LIST subcommand?
--
In <008c01cf9aa4$70193d10$504bb730$@mindspring.com>, on 07/08/2014
at 05:02 AM, Lizette Koehler said:
>Over time, there was never an 8 Char TSO ID. Instead several
>alterations were made that allowed the TSO ID to "look" like 8
>chars. In the past when you submitted a job in TSO it had to be
In
,
on 07/08/2014
at 10:17 AM, Kirk Wolf said:
>It seems as if some on this thread assume that there are only two
>kinds of software: 1) closed-source; paid license and support 2)
>free without support (sometimes with source).
3.) Closed source; paid license but no support[1]
4.) Free wi
In <02fa01cf9aaf$b9ddd130$2d997390$@mxg.com>, on 07/08/2014
at 08:22 AM, Barry Merrill said:
>Not sure if this applies to this issue, but I recall that TSO
>commands that issue TPUT will simply stop the rest of the
>commands in a Batch TSO job,
They don't stop anything, but the TPUT also doe
In another shop, and all my previous employers, I did as you said. No
unsupported "freebies". In this shop, saying no is to be placed at the top
of the RIF list for not being a "team player". And "not supportive".
Hopefully, if/when I get a new employer, I can do things the proper way.
On Jul 8, 2
On 7/8/14, 9:57 AM, Dave Salt wrote:
> I hear you, and I've heard that same argument many times. But it
> makes absolutely no sense to me. If we take the example of a
> company that spends 10 million dollars a year to employ 100
> mainframe developers, and that company licenses a tool that
> impr
On Jul 8, 2014, at 4:18 PM, John McKown wrote:
--
SNIP
Well, unfortunately, I am tasked to do things. So it is use what I
have available to me because we _aren't_ going to get supported
products which cost real money. And z/OS i
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Ed Gould wrote:
> You are in a difficult situation (much like all of Texas).
>
> Personally I hope you don't get awakened at 0030 with an issue and
> production is now broken.
Ah. I was unclear. My use of Co:Z is only in a non-production run (not
even controlled b
On Jul 8, 2014, at 7:15 AM, John McKown wrote:
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Ed Gould
wrote:
Shane:
That an issue... wondering minstrel... I have been an 4 shops where
wondering minstrels have left their "tools" and I have to clean up
and
listen to 30 (or so people) complain about this
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
Why only 10? Up to 36 should have been practical.
Your guess is as good as mine, Paul. Since the original TSO (no "/E")
product was available in 1971 what is now TSO/E is at *least* 43 years
old. As UADS was a pretty basic part of the overall implementation the
desi
On 7/8/2014 8:57 AM, Dave Salt wrote:
You say "save". Management, at least here, would translate this into
"real savings" this by firing nine or ten developers. That is true
"saving". "Saving" money by not hiring a new employee is not "saving"
in their world view. "Saving money" is "reducing cost
W dniu 2014-07-08 16:04, Lizette Koehler pisze:
What do you consider an 8 character TSO ID?
Please explain your statement. My understanding is TSO IDs are maximum of 7
Chars. A batch job can be the 7Chars + 1. So what may look like an 8 Char
TSOID may just be a batch 8 character name.
I c
On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 13:24:33 -0400, John Eells wrote:
>TSO/E does not support user IDs with more than 7 characters. The reason
>for this is a historical one. TSO/E user ID information was originally
>stored in the user attributes data set, UADS. A PDS, UADS has an
>8-character limit on member na
Hi
All I wish to make a comment regarding bypassing IBM intentions
Yes I have worked for a few vendors
And durning that time I have worked
On products that
• replace the FLIH for PGM checks
• front ended SVC
• front ended the DB2 SQL engine
It's common practice for ISV to do
Non vanilla non
Which interestingly enough is barred from import to the USA see
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CC0QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.com%2Fnews%2Fmagazine-21128089&ei=zi68U671AYOgyAT5uYAY&usg=AFQjCNHt-MdOQd89mSltxv02OjYpX0aFqg&sig2=uejYWrvcuvKJJ_Yq2f
Don't forget chitlin's & grits
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I have heard tell of a dish they call haggis.
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On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 08:03:19 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht
wrote:
>Walter Farrell wrote:
>
>>I really wish we knew what ISV he works for so everyone could avoid their
>>products, or perhaps contact their management and tell them he's a seriously
>>dangerous programmer.
>
>>And yes, I wish no one w
TSO/E does not support user IDs with more than 7 characters. The reason
for this is a historical one. TSO/E user ID information was originally
stored in the user attributes data set, UADS. A PDS, UADS has an
8-character limit on member name length. To save space (remember that
2314s and cor
Biltong is interesting, monkey gland is way too bland. I prefer Peri-peri on
mine, thanks. Maximum strength, of course.
Bill Fairchild
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From: "David Crayford"
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Sent: Tuesday, July 8, 2014 8:48:56 AM
Subject: OT: Re: Freebie softwar
Thanks Peter. It worked.
On Wed, 7/9/14, Peter X. DeFabritus wrote:
Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - PRINT
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Received: Wednesday, July 9, 2014, 4:42 AM
If you are at least z/OS 1.13, so
that you don't have to know the nu
If you are at least z/OS 1.13, so that you don't have to know the number of
tracks:
//DFDSSEXEC PGM=ADRDSSU
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//DISK DD UNIT=SYSDA,VOL=SER=SMTS01,DISP=SHR
//SYSINDD *
PRINT INDD(DISK) TRACKS((0,0,X'FFF
I think your print command should be
PRINT TRACKS(,00,10017,14) INDDNAME(DASD)
You are printing cylinder/track, so the last track would be cyl 10017, track 14
within that cylinder.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
O
Hallo Gentle Readers,
I would like to use the PRINT command to print all the contents of a 3390-9
volume. I tried the following :
PRINT TRACKS(,00,10017,150255) INDDNAME(DASD)
I get the error message :
ADR136E (001)-RI01 (01), CONSTANT '150255 ' IS NOT WITHIN VALUE RANGE
I used the value
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Dana Mitchell wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 12:48:05 -0400, Dave Salt wrote:
>> But many companies would rather waste millions than spend a few thousand on
>> tools that improve productivity.
>>
>>Dave Salt
>>
>
> Shops such as John's and others that I am familiar
The max length of a UID in UADS is 7 characters.
Ed
On Jul 8, 2014, at 2:24 AM, nitz-ibm wrote:
IKJ56644I NO VALID TSO USERID, DEFAULT USER ATTRIBUTES USED
IKJ55353I THE CONSPROF COMMAND HAS TERMINATED.+
From what I have read in the FM and in the archives of this forum,
I tend to concl
On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 12:48:05 -0400, Dave Salt wrote:
> But many companies would rather waste millions than spend a few thousand on
> tools that improve productivity.
>
>Dave Salt
>
Shops such as John's and others that I am familiar with, that have either a
stated, or un-stated implied goal of
How much are top executives of companies willing to spend on themselves to
improve their own productivity? If it makes sense for them, it should also
make sense for the "individual contributors".
I once had a manager who, when I asked for company-paid business cards with my
contact information
I'm not sure that I understand all of the arguments in this thread. Welcome
to IBM-MAIN :-)
Outside of the z/OS realm, people mostly understand that various aspects of
software can be decoupled:
- license to use - (free or paid). Commercial licenses often include
warranties, indemnities, etc.
-
> You say "save". Management, at least here, would translate this into
> "real savings" this by firing nine or ten developers. That is true
> "saving". "Saving" money by not hiring a new employee is not "saving"
> in their world view. "Saving money" is "reducing cost". It is not
> "eliminating futu
> What do you consider an 8 character TSO ID?
I never talked about an "8 character TSO ID", did I? I always wrote (or meant
to write) "8 character userid". And by "userid" I mean a userid as understood
by MVS, and this has always been allowed to be 8 characters in length. (I'm
sure someone will
What do you consider an 8 character TSO ID?
Please explain your statement. My understanding is TSO IDs are maximum of 7
Chars. A batch job can be the 7Chars + 1. So what may look like an 8 Char
TSOID may just be a batch 8 character name.
Please provide some examples.
Next, do you have any e
David Crayford wrote:
>Food snob!
Of course. ;-)
>But you mob don't mind chewing on biltong or dolloping monkey gland on your
>sausages! :)
As long it is Kudu biltong, not some lame cattle or ostrich biltong. ;-D
Now, I can't post anymore because you made me hungry ...
;-D
Groete / Greeti
On 8/07/2014 9:43 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:
DANGER! OFF-TOPIC POST! Read on at your own risk!...
David Crayford wrote:
Having said that, a true aussie favorite is a meat pie with tomato sauce
dolloped on top!
Tomato sauce? Yuck, for me at least, to pour tomato sauce on food is a ghastly
DANGER! OFF-TOPIC POST! Read on at your own risk!...
David Crayford wrote:
>Having said that, a true aussie favorite is a meat pie with tomato sauce
>dolloped on top!
Tomato sauce? Yuck, for me at least, to pour tomato sauce on food is a ghastly
insult to the poor chef or anyone who kindly pre
On 8/07/2014 9:13 PM, John Gilmore wrote:
Shane is entitled to explicate his own references or indeed not to do
so, and local connotations may anyway vary: (Here in the Boston,
Massachusetts, area where French food of any sort is usually mediocre
we have a bistrot, Mistral, that serves high-qu
That should have been PUTLINE works fine.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf
Of Barry Merrill
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 8:23 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Authorizing 8 char technical userid to use TSO CON
Not sure if this applies to this issue, but I recall that TSO commands that
issue TPUT will simply stop the rest of the commands in a
Batch TSO job, but commands using PUTLOG work fine.
Barry
Herbert W. “Barry” Merrill, PhD
President-Programmer
MXG Software
Merrill Consultants
10717 Cromwell D
> Before any TSO commands may be entered, the LOGON command must be used with a
> valid TSO User ID.
This is not true if you run TSO in batch (EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01, etc.). You can
definitely run TSO commands under an 8 char userid, although you cannot *logon*
to TSO.
I do understand that a userid
Shane is entitled to explicate his own references or indeed not to do
so, and local connotations may anyway vary: (Here in the Boston,
Massachusetts, area where French food of any sort is usually mediocre
we have a bistrot, Mistral, that serves high-quality provençal food.)
More usually Le Mist
Walter Farrell wrote:
>I really wish we knew what ISV he works for so everyone could avoid their
>products, or perhaps contact their management and tell them he's a seriously
>dangerous programmer.
>And yes, I wish no one would give him hints about bypassing the integrity
>checks.
I agree wit
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Ed Gould wrote:
> Shane:
>
> That an issue... wondering minstrel... I have been an 4 shops where
> wondering minstrels have left their "tools" and I have to clean up and
> listen to 30 (or so people) complain about this used to work. Sorry BTDTGTS
> I don't accept
In the beginning there was SYS1.UADS. In there the member name (and you can
find this in the archives) could only be a maximum of 7 chars. This is
because the last char (position 8 if using 7 chars) was the "chain" to the
next entry for that ID.
This thread from 2005 may be helpful
https://listse
On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:48 AM, Dave Salt wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 9:35 AM, DASDBILL2 wrote:
>> > The loss of time is never "free."
>
> I couldn't agree more. If it costs $100,000 a year to employ a mainframe
> developer (salary, benefits, premises, etc.), then for every 100 developers
I really wish we knew what ISV he works for so everyone could avoid their
products, or perhaps contact their management and tell them he's a
seriously dangerous programmer.
And yes, I wish no one would give him hints about bypassing the integrity
checks.
Regards,
Walt
On Jul 7, 2014 6:36 PM, "Shm
Bob Shannon wrote:
>>Why cann't you display the values of access registers>
>I can. If you read the manual you can too.
LOL! Good and subtle reply. ;-)
Careful fella, you will cause us to die from laughter... ;-D
Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht
"The guy decides to have a haircut. H
>Why cann't you display the values of access registers>
I can. If you read the manual you can too.
Bob Shannon
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> No, I don't think there is a way to define a valid 8 character TSO userid. ...
Yep, understand that. But that wasn't the question. The question is why some
(most?) TSO commands are working fine under an 8 char userid, whereas some like
CONSOLE obviously don't.
It's mostly my own curiosity t
> IKJ56644I NO VALID TSO USERID, DEFAULT USER ATTRIBUTES USED
> IKJ55353I THE CONSPROF COMMAND HAS TERMINATED.+
> From what I have read in the FM and in the archives of this forum, I tend to
> conclude that there is no way to authorize an 8 character userid to use the
> TSO CONSOLE command,
Initially posted on RACF-L (more by mistake tang by intention). Reposting here
with emphasis on the TSO mechanisms I'd like to get some deeper insight.
We're in the process of cleaning up our technical userids. There is a job
running a REXX under IKJEFT01 that is issuing MVS commands via TSO CON
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