Re: Enterprise COBOL v5.1 Implemented?

2014-10-03 Thread Thomas Berg
A note relating to this question: There was a problem (bug) in IBM's bind avoidance function in the DB2 precompiler. It was dependent on a string constant that the COBOL compiler optimized away. Which obviously was a problem. (I don't remember the details.) It may have influenced the

Re: z/OS datasets that must be in the MCAT (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-10-03 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2014-10-03 o 00:12, Storr, Lon A CTR USARMY HRC (US) pisze: Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Hello List, It appears that some of the old restrictions regarding MCAT-cataloging of installation-allocated datasets that are accessed during system initialization (usually for

Re: SCEELKED Restore

2014-10-03 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 3/10/2014 15:58, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote: Tom Marchant wrote: With the sole exception of Peter Relson's advice, all of them are wrong. Please be kind to tell us where we (and myself too) are wrong? Even John Eells is wrong too? There was a subtle distinction (I had to read it a

Re: SCEELKED Restore

2014-10-03 Thread Gibney, Dave
Messing with the IPL linklst is inherently dangerous. Using SETPROG ...UPDATE(*) can hose your system into needing an IPL. Updating active linklst datasets (after you get the enqueues out of the way) can hose your system into needing an IPL. Peter described the safest way, but he also warned it

Re: z/OS datasets that must be in the MCAT (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-10-03 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Storr, Lon A wrote: It appears that some of the old restrictions regarding MCAT-cataloging of installation-allocated datasets that are accessed during system initialization (usually for OUTPUT) have been relaxed. Where do you see that? Based on what? I have verified that page datasets must

Re: z/OS datasets that must be in the MCAT (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-10-03 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2014-10-03 o 09:03, Elardus Engelbrecht pisze: [...] What about SYS1.PARMLIB and friends? RACF database? Ok, granted my books just say 'Each data set in a RACF database must be a contiguous, single-extent, non-VSAM data set that resides on a DASD volume, and it must be cataloged.' (and

Re: Alias relating to Non-VSAM datasets

2014-10-03 Thread retired mainframer
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mainframe Sysprog Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2014 10:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Alias relating to Non-VSAM datasets Hi List, I am trying to define an alias

Re: z/OS datasets that must be in the MCAT (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-10-03 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Apologies to the OP, I know we are drifting from your MCAT story, but ... ;-) Radoslaw Skorupka wrote: I'm not sure about MCAT, but RACF db *can* bo on SMS volume, because it need *not* to be PSU. It can be PS. What cannot be done is move RACF db during system operations. The simplest method

Re: Enterprise COBOL v5.1 Implemented?

2014-10-03 Thread John Gilmore
There are different circumstances in which code sequences may be 'unreachable'. Most commonly, in my experience, a sequence of instructions that was once executed is left behind when maintenance changes are made, either 1) inadvertently or 2) because the path of control in a routine has become so

Re: Alias relating to Non-VSAM datasets

2014-10-03 Thread Mainframe Sysprog
Thanks (if I may address you as) Mr Retired Mainframer, for your wisdom and clearing my doubts. Regards Varun On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 2:56 PM, retired mainframer retired-mainfra...@q.com wrote: -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]

Tape Error

2014-10-03 Thread mf db
Hi All, I am receiving the below error while running my daily backup 09.08.33 JOB02811 IEC215I 714-0C,IFG0200Z,ZV1QB3$,STEP01,TAPE1,0680,ZV1QB3,BACKUP.INC.ZVX3D2 09.08.33 JOB02811 IOS000I 0680,0A,IOE,27,0600,,**,ZV1QB3,ZV1QB3$ 686 686 0A4410D050405050 0027FF00

Re: SMP/E Misleading Error Message

2014-10-03 Thread Kathryn A. Pinto
Hi John, Please list the GZONE entry from the global zone of SMP.CICSTS51.GLOBAL.CSI to see if HCTG900 appears in the FMID subentry list. SET BDY(GLOBAL). LIST GZONE. You should get a result like: GLOBALUPGLEVEL = SMP/E 36.59

Re: z/OS datasets that must be in the MCAT (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-10-03 Thread van der Grijn, Bart (B)
Lizette, I think that is an oversimplification. For a lot of datasets a catalog search is not needed to access them as long as the system can find them. Some examples: LPALSTxx: PRTCP.PERM.SEZALPA(SYSR1), PROGxx: APFADD DSN(PRTCP.PERM.SEZALOAD) VOLUME(SYSR1) LNKLST

Re: Enterprise COBOL v5.1 Implemented?

2014-10-03 Thread John McKown
With one caveat, I agree. That caveat relates to the cache. If the optimizer leaves in too much in the way of junk instructions, then the efficiency of the cache is decreased. So, IMO, I would argue that it is relevant for a compiler to minimize the number of bytes to perform an action. Especially

Re: Tape Error

2014-10-03 Thread Vernooij, CP (SPLXM) - KLM
Check this: http://ibmmainframes.com/about25902.html Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of mf db Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 13:24 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Tape Error Hi All, I am receiving the below

Re: Tape Error

2014-10-03 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
mf db (Peter) wrote: 09.08.33 JOB02811 IEC215I 714-0C,IFG0200Z,ZV1QB3$,STEP01,TAPE1,0680,ZV1QB3,BACKUP.INC.ZVX3D2 ... 09.08.33 JOB02811 IEC147I 613-08,IFG0194K,ZV1QB3$,STEP01,TAPE1,0680,ZV1QB3,BACKUP.INC.ZVX3D2 Those messages are a PITA. If opened for output processing, an I/O error

Re: SCEELKED Restore

2014-10-03 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 3 Oct 2014 00:58:10 -0500, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: Tom Marchant wrote: With the sole exception of Peter Relson's advice, all of them are wrong. Please be kind to tell us where we (and myself too) are wrong? Even John Eells is wrong too? Neither you

Re: HCD Question

2014-10-03 Thread John D Levine
After the CF command, did you vary the path online? John L. From: Cobe Xu cob...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 10/02/2014 08:23 PM Subject:Re: HCD Question Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Hi all, Yes, the cables

Re: Alias relating to Non-VSAM datasets

2014-10-03 Thread Lizette Koehler
I am not clear on why you want a different HLQ. Perhaps the SYMBOLICRELATE might be more helpful. You can use Symbolics on different LPARs but have the same dataset name used on all. For example. DSN A.B.C can be used on all lpars Underneath the symbolicrelate says on LPAR1 A.B.REL1.C

Re: Alias relating to Non-VSAM datasets

2014-10-03 Thread Staller, Allan
I do not believe you can do this (using only standard facilities). Without looking it up, I am 99% positive that hlq1 and hlq2 *must* be in the same user catalog for this to work. As others have also pointed out, symbolicrelate may be of help, however, I would not be optimistic based on the

Re: Alias relating to Non-VSAM datasets

2014-10-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 3 Oct 2014 06:18:55 -0700, Lizette Koehler wrote: I am not clear on why you want a different HLQ. Simply, because! I was in this situation once. I created some data sets unaware that some of my colleagues were using a conflicting naming convention in several JCL members. I thought,

Re: z/OS datasets that must be in the MCAT (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-10-03 Thread R.S.
Just curious: WHY? What is the reason to put the things out of MCAT? Of course I mean those object which IBM said MCAT YES. How many objects are covered? Few dozens? Is the goal worth the complication? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2014-10-03 o 15:37, John Eells pisze: This is

Re: z/OS datasets that must be in the MCAT (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-10-03 Thread Storr, Lon A CTR USARMY HRC (US)
Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE John, Thank you very much for your detailed and well-considered response. I believe that you have confirmed my belief that UCATs become safely available after the CATALOG address space initializes. I hadn't realized that UCATs can be opened before

Re: PSF OGL PPFA ACIF alternatives?

2014-10-03 Thread Howard Turetzky
There are alternatives to OGL and PPFA, though not on z/OS. There are Windows-based visual tools for creating PAGEDEFs, FORMDEFs, Overlays and fonts from Elixir (http://rpp.ricoh-usa.com/products/software/composition/elixir-designpro-tools) and ISIS (http://www.isis-papyrus.com/). There are

Need help in rexx...

2014-10-03 Thread Rajesh Kumar
Hi, Can some one help me on this? 1)Need rexx to compare two ps files 2) If records are same on both PS, it has to generate new PS file stating that all records are clean otherwise it should generate ps file with detail of missing record.. Note: i have jcl for this but i want to change

Re: SMP/E Misleading Error Message

2014-10-03 Thread Chase, John
Having installed HCTG900 (CICS Transaction Gateway v9.0) into our CICS TS 5.1 GLOBAL CSI according to the instructions in its Program Directory, I cannot explain how HCTG900 was missing from the Global zone's FMID list, but it wasn't there. Adding HCTG900 to the Global zone's list allowed the

Re: Need help in rexx...

2014-10-03 Thread Lizette Koehler
A couple of thoughts and questions 1) What version of z/OS are you running? 2) Have you joined the TSO-REXX list? If not, you can join here - go to bottom of webpage to join TSO REXXhttp://www2.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?TSO-REXX 3) Have you searched the CBTTAPE.ORG? There may be

Re: Need help in rexx...

2014-10-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 3 Oct 2014 12:00:17 -0400, Rajesh Kumar wrote: Can some one help me on this? 1)Need rexx to compare two ps files 2) If records are same on both PS, it has to generate new PS file stating that all records are clean otherwise it should generate ps file with detail of missing

Re: Need help in rexx... (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-10-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On 2014-10-03, at 10:05, Storr, Lon A CTR USARMY HRC (US) wrote: I suggest that you take a look at the IBM SUPERC utility (ISPF option 3.12). It may be executed in batch and may achieve your objectives. But can that be done without using JCL, which was a stated objective? -Original

Re: Enterprise COBOL v5.1 Implemented?

2014-10-03 Thread Charles Mills
Timothy - Two points if I may. The compiler has no way of knowing whether it is spending $10 to save $.01, absent a parameter we intend to run this program 'n' times before it is next compiled. Is this a year-end program, a one-shot fix, or a frequent CICS transaction? I think given OPT(max

Re: z/OS datasets that must be in the MCAT (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-10-03 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Storr, Lon A wrote: I am almost positive that the SCDS is not referenced during system initialization and, therefore, need not be MCAT-cataloged (if it's not called SYS1.**). Feel free to be 100% positive. Our SCDS/ACDS/etc are in UCAT and have other HLQ. Groete / Greetings Elardus

Re: Enterprise COBOL v5.1 Implemented?

2014-10-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In of21c647e7.c9ac4337-on80257d66.0046aa82-80257d66.0046d...@uk.ibm.com, on 10/03/2014 at 01:53 PM, Martin Packer martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com said: And the nit on that would be once loaded. Meaning not everything in the load module on disk ends up in the loaded program in memory, or so I

Re: Enterprise COBOL v5.1 Implemented?

2014-10-03 Thread Greg Shirey
Well, at no time have *I* suggested that the new compiler should be avoided, only that a bug should be fixed (if there is one). If this changed behavior with the optimization of a COBOL program is not a bug, then I will be enlightened by IBM's explanation and this discussion, and be in a

Re: Enterprise COBOL v5.1 Implemented?

2014-10-03 Thread Tom Ross
As far as other glitches, I posted a message yesterday about the absence of= IGYOP messages, and specifically IGYOP3091-W. In further experimenting, w= e have discovered that it's not just that the message isn't being produced,= it's that the code that can never be executed is not being

Re: Need help in rexx... (UNCLASSIFIED)

2014-10-03 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 3 Oct 2014 16:44:15 +, Storr, Lon A CTR USARMY HRC (US) wrote: ... I believe (but have not tested) that the REXX does not have to execute in a TSO environment. Yes. Works fine under Unix System Services and IRXJCL (Oops! the JCL word again). Replace EXEC PGM= with address

Re: Need help in rexx...

2014-10-03 Thread Gibney, Dave
Or whichever SORT you have. Unless you really want to spin your cpu, then the Rexx should be pretty simple. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 9:13 AM To:

IEFUJI or IEFUJV sample

2014-10-03 Thread Brian Westerman
Hi, Does anyone have a sample IEFUJI or IEFUJV that processes the JOBCARD account number that they are willing to share? Thanks, Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to