On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 22:18:51 +, Frank Swarbrick
wrote:
>There was a post to ibm-main by Allan Kielstra of IBM compiler development (I
>think) on May 10, 2017 (How are Program Object sections with Defer attribute
>loaded?) that discusses how the writable static area (WSA) is used in COBOL V5
Hi
Is anyone performing any kind of testing on zOS 2.3 and found any defects
or any gotchas ?
Peter
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Hi, Gord -- thanks for requesting clarification!
For this article, I'm interested in IBM mainframe usage outside the US.
Canada is of interest whether or not mainframe experiences there are
similar to US, included but not limited to issues dealing with IBM. If
it's all similar to the US, I'll
Amrith,
Converting a 128-bit unsigned fixed binary integer to packed decimal is not
particularly difficult.
The following methodology should meet your needs -
IVFB - Input Value (128-bit Unsigned Fixed Binary)
WVFB - Working Value (128-bit Unsigned Fixed Binary)
AFPD - Adjustment Factor (11-byt
On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 21:46:02 -0400, Gerhard Adam wrote:
>Isn't that the point of getting a file allocation report with every SMP run?
>
That's after the fact; the damage has been done. OK. Study the report after
a *CHECK step. But I think it's better to get the DDDEFs right when creating
the C
Yes indeed. The DSNames would not be those of the original DDDEFs, but
of the UCLIN REP[laced] ones - after a cloned CSI has been updated to
point at them.
E.g.
//SMPCNTL DD *
SET BOUNDARY(GLOBAL)
Isn't that the point of getting a file allocation report with every SMP run?
Adam
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On Aug 9, 2017, at 7:58 PM, Edward Gould wrote:
>> On Aug 9, 2017, at 4:34 PM, Paul Gilmartin
>> <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 20:58:11
On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 18:58:12 -0500, Edward Gould wrote:
>> On Aug 9, 2017, at 4:34 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>>>
>> If the DSNames are in DDDEFs (highly recommended) they can be listed
>> with SMP/E commands. At times, a question has been posed here,
>> "Can I, for a one-off, overide in JCL the D
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.bpxa500/bptr.htm
> On 9 Aug 2017, at 11:15 pm, Rocky Mc Mahan wrote:
>
> Does anyone know the equivalent command in Unix System Services?
>
> The Truss command traces a process’s system calls, dynamically loaded user
> On Aug 9, 2017, at 4:34 PM, Paul Gilmartin
> <000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 20:58:11 +0100, CM Poncelet wrote:
> ——SNIP--
>>
> If the DSNames are in DDDEFs (highly recommended) they can be l
I am curious to hear opinions on something. The current COBOL standard has an
enhancement to the STOP RUN statement. There are two new options, the ERROR
phrase and the NORMAL phrase. My first thought is that the NORMAL phrase could
replace the RETURN-CODE special register, which is a non-sta
There was a post to ibm-main by Allan Kielstra of IBM compiler development (I
think) on May 10, 2017 (How are Program Object sections with Defer attribute
loaded?) that discusses how the writable static area (WSA) is used in COBOL V5
and COBOL V6. Briefly, this is how I understand it. If the "
SoftAudit is now "IBM Tivoli License Compliance Manager for z/OS" after IBM
acquired it.
Al Nims
UFIT
University of Florida
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On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 20:58:11 +0100, CM Poncelet wrote:
>FWIW Any SMP/E PGM=GIMSMP (or any other PGM=) in batch TSO can be
>executed in REXX. All that is required is that the DDNames and datasets
>be allocated - either as preallocated SMPPLOG, SMPPTFIN, SMPHOLD etc. in
>the CSI's GLOBAL, TLIB and/or
> Softaudit says it can do it, they would have to front end the SVC.
I believe they do or did.
CharlesSent from a mobile; please excuse the brevity.
Original message From: Edward Gould
Date: 8/9/17 4:22 PM (GMT-05:00) To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re:
Any SMF stati
> On Aug 9, 2017, at 12:06 PM, retired mainframer
> wrote:
>
> If the problem you are trying to solve is important to the organization, ask
> the people who can run DAF for what you need and let them sanitize the
> output for you.
>
> Alternately, if the number of libraries containing the modul
FWIW Any SMP/E PGM=GIMSMP (or any other PGM=) in batch TSO can be
executed in REXX. All that is required is that the DDNames and datasets
be allocated - either as preallocated SMPPLOG, SMPPTFIN, SMPHOLD etc. in
the CSI's GLOBAL, TLIB and/or DLIB zones, or as 'ALLOC etc.' overrides -
and then issuin
I also see this in COBOL V5.2 binder listings for various programs of different
types (sanitized):
CLASS C_WSA LENGTH = 194 ATTRIBUTES = MRG, DEFER , RMODE=ANY
OFFSET =0 IN SEGMENT 002 ALIGN = DBLWORD
---
As I understand it, at least all debugging information (TEST option) is now
added as deferred data classes in the program object instead of being sent to a
separate dataset at compile time.
The COBOL Pgmr's Guide says to totally eliminate TEST data use NOTEST(NODWARF).
Not sure if that elimina
> When the jobs finally run successfully, any members not added are likelyunused
At least not until year-end.
CharlesSent from a mobile; please excuse the brevity.
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On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 13:37:54 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote:
>
>And the resulting IEW2678S makes sense in that context, because there
>is nowhere known to IEWBLODI for the deferred classes to be loaded
>from. So asking IBM to support deferred classes in IEWBLODI (or
>IEWBLOAD, which is the same thing e
Yes it is important to the organization, but since apparently no SMF record has
this information for dynamically LOADed programs there is no real point to
asking for DAF or any other SMF reporting tool to be used.
Knowing the module name loaded is kind of the point - that's what we need to
know
On 9 August 2017 at 12:34, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 08:10:53 -0500 Giliad Wilf wrote:
> :>You got it right.
> :>I need to further analyze the source to find out what else was IEWBLODI
> supposed to do there.
>
> It builds the module in memory without requiring it to be hardene
If the problem you are trying to solve is important to the organization, ask
the people who can run DAF for what you need and let them sanitize the
output for you.
Alternately, if the number of libraries containing the modules in question
is not too large and you can convince the security admins t
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 08:10:53 -0500 Giliad Wilf
> <00d50942efa9-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
>
> :>On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 06:41:04 -0500, John McKown <
> john.archie.mck...@gmail.com> wrote:
> :>
> :>>I'm probably not really underst
[Default] On 9 Aug 2017 08:23:19 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
david.jou...@53.com (Jousma, David) wrote:
>Im not aware of any method using existing system services to track execution
>of subroutines below PGM=. It would certainly be helpful to us, as we have
>(I'm) many old application prog
On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 08:10:53 -0500 Giliad Wilf
<00d50942efa9-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
:>On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 06:41:04 -0500, John McKown
wrote:
:>
:>>I'm probably not really understanding what you want to do. So I'll give a
:>>try at an alternate explanation for what I _think_ you
[Default] On 9 Aug 2017 06:09:42 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
00d50942efa9-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu (Giliad Wilf) wrote:
>On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 06:41:04 -0500, John McKown
>wrote:
>
>>I'm probably not really understanding what you want to do. So I'll give a
>>try at an alternate explana
On 2017-08-09 09:12, Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
As the subject says, are there any such SMF statistics available? We need to
know if certain subroutines are ever LOADed anywhere in the sysplex by any
batch program. We do collect SMF data, but I need to know which one may help,
if any.
I am
I have used MFM (Module Fetch Monitor) previously. This creates a TRACE
file (not SMF) however it had proved itself to be very useful.
It was obtained by a separate (No Charge) agreement from IBM. This
basically uses an LLA exit to capture the information required.
There was a share presentatio
Im not aware of any method using existing system services to track execution of
subroutines below PGM=. It would certainly be helpful to us, as we have (I'm)
many old application programs that pollute our system, but no one knows if they
are in use or not. This is becoming somewhat of a issue
Does anyone know the equivalent command in Unix System Services?
The Truss command traces a process’s system calls, dynamically loaded user
level function calls, received signals, and incurred machine faults.
Thanks!
-Rocky
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Unfortunately I have no access to any SMF data here and I am prohibited from
running DCOLLECT for myself by security rules, so DAF while no doubt useful to
others is not much use to me here.
These are old dynamically LOADed and called COBOL subroutines that we are not
sure of the actual usage.
There was a product you could purchase called SoftAudit. It could do some of
what you are looking for (If I remember correctly)
The other options some shops took, was having their programs issue a WTO
indicating what module called what. Probably well past what you could work with
at this point.
Gil,
Contact me off-list if you haven't heard from me already (I have an email
address for you but it may be old).
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Thank you all for the prompt replies. Much appreciated.
Peter
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This has been discussed not so long ago, I think. I remember I mentioned my LLA
exits.
Kees.
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On 2017-08-08 15:37, Gabe Goldberg wrote:
If you're running a non-US mainframe
Hi Gabe,
To clarify: do you mean an IBM mainframe that happens to be situated
outside the US, a mainframe (non-IBM) that originated outside the US, or
both?
Also, is Canada of interest to you? I think you would
No. SMF 30 subtype 5 (?) has the jobstep program name, the USS program name
if any, and the program in the step that used the most CPU. That last field
is occasionally useful for situations such as yours.
Charles
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Simple answer: NO, there is no SMF tracking of the LOAD functionality in
z/OS.
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 8:12 AM, Farley, Peter x23353 <
peter.far...@broadridge.com> wrote:
> As the subject says, are there any such SMF statistics available? We need
> to know if certain subroutines are ever LOADed a
On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 09:02:25 -0400, zMan wrote:
>OK, fair 'nuff! I'm on a horrible connection, wasn't inclined to dig.
>Has anyone asked them? Just wondering. They at least used to be a great
>company.
>
They won't talk to me, or even let me subscribe to their own LISTSERV unless
I have a customer
As the subject says, are there any such SMF statistics available? We need to
know if certain subroutines are ever LOADed anywhere in the sysplex by any
batch program. We do collect SMF data, but I need to know which one may help,
if any.
I am not the systems programmer here, so I do not have
I appreciate this discussion is about z13s etc, just wanted you to be aware of
SE/HMC changes with the z14 announcement. Additional details in the z14
Technical Guide Redbook - SG24-8451
FTP Support Element through the HMC, Securely via Proxy
With this change the SE will no longer directly acce
On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 06:41:04 -0500, John McKown
wrote:
>I'm probably not really understanding what you want to do. So I'll give a
>try at an alternate explanation for what I _think_ you want. You have a
>"test" version of a program, call it TESTPGM, in your production PDSE. This
>is a test versio
OK, fair 'nuff! I'm on a horrible connection, wasn't inclined to dig.
Has anyone asked them? Just wondering. They at least used to be a great
company.
On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Paul Gilmartin <
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 08:29:39 -0400, zMan
On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 08:29:39 -0400, zMan wrote:
>Before blaming L-Soft, it probably makes sense to be sure the list is
>running current software. I know many lists are way backlevel...
>
The logo at the top of this page shows "LISTSERV 16.0". The page at
http://www.lsoft.com/products/listserv_os.
Before blaming L-Soft, it probably makes sense to be sure the list is
running current software. I know many lists are way backlevel...
On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 4:01 PM, David W Noon <
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I'm probably not really understanding what you want to do. So I'll give a
try at an alternate explanation for what I _think_ you want. You have a
"test" version of a program, call it TESTPGM, in your production PDSE. This
is a test version of PRODPGM in the same PDSE. You have another program,
MAIN
>Are there any CPU spike due to SVCDUMP ?
Of course there is. An SVC Dump takes a lot of cycles. And of course there
is a spike in the consumption of frames needed to capture the data
(whether that is real or auxiliary storage). z/OS attempts to make sure
that this frame consumption does not ha
There are some reasons why you would interconnect the SE's with your company
network. In our environment, each SE has 2 lan adapters. One going to private
network, one going to company network.
1) If you use BCPII in System Automation, there has to be IP connectivity
between the LPAR's and th
A 40-digit decimal number? Really?
The main advantage of binary integers is that they compute readily on a
computer. The main advantage of decimal integers is that they are easy for
humans to read. But 40-digit decimal numbers?
Charles
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apologies All. Sorry for the "dense" post. Here is a re-send:
Hi All, I'm trying to do an in-core re-bind of a program object currently
residing in a PDSE, rename it, and present its new name to
Contents Supervisor, by dynamically calling IEWBLODI to do the job. IEWBLODI
fails, issuing MSGIEW
Hi All, I'm trying to do an in-core re-bind of a program object currently
residing in a PDSE, rename it, and present its new name to Contents Supervisor,
by dynamically calling IEWBLODI to do the job. IEWBLODI fails, issuing
MSGIEW2678S, stating "MODULE CONTAINS DATA CLASSES NOT SUPPORTED BY THE
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