Re: z114 retroactive height reduction (FC 9975) for transportation

2020-06-11 Thread Parwez Hamid
Short answer - YES. FC 9975 is basically to reduce the 'height' for shipping/delivery purposes i.e if there isn't enough height clearance for the doorway. If a system is ordered with this feature, it just enlongates the install time. Nothing to stop 'you' to remove and reinstall the top bit. Ju

Re: Goto Statements AND COBOL OPTIMIZATION

2020-06-11 Thread Tom Ross
>Those were added w/ COBOL 2002, not 2014. Don't give yourself too much cre= >dit! I noticed that too, and thought I had corrected my post, but I guess I failed! Cheers, TomR >> COBOL is the Language of the Future! <<

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Brian Westerman
I always use a single shared GLOBAL zone and multiple targets. It's much simpler to keep track of and the only problem I have ever run into is a site the IBM ran an audit on and they wanted to know why they had 8 LPARs but 24 target|dlib zones. Apparently IBM doesn't do it that way. Aside fro

Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes"

2020-06-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
Long ago in a galaxy far away, there was a telephone company called Gong, Owned by Andromeda Telepath and Teleport. When a customer called in with an outage, they would go to the appropriate equipment, clean and reseat all of the contacts, and then test. They would then report back to the custom

Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes"

2020-06-11 Thread Bob Bridges
I used to imagine the poor mechanics listening skeptically to a young clueless driver saying "I swear, mister, it was making this awful noise just a minute ago...!" I wouldn't have believed her either. Then I started in end-user support. I have implicitly believed those stories ever since. I

Re: Goto Statements AND COBOL OPTIMIZATION

2020-06-11 Thread Bob Bridges
Heck, I was a PL/1 bigot from the start. There are other languages I like, but I remember PL/1 with a kind of rosy glow - possibly because I never use it any more. --- Bob Bridges, robhbrid...@gmail.com, cell 336 382-7313 /* I think everyone who chooses to stay out of politics (which is your r

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
I see bookkeeping issue to ensure that you IPL each LPAR from the correct volume and to ensure that you install serive in the correct zone, but what is the synchronization issue with rotating among a set of TARGET/DLIB zones and associated volumes? Oh, there is a detail that I left out; the HFS

Re: And another APPLY difficulty - IEW2821W

2020-06-11 Thread Gibney, Dave
Defining BPXROOT according to documentation allowed this PTF to go on clean. Thanks for the help talking it through, > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Jousma, David > Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 1:11 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re

Re: Goto Statements AND COBOL OPTIMIZATION

2020-06-11 Thread Rupert Reynolds
I lost faith COBOL and finallly became a PL/1 biggot when I was told that ALTER GOTO was introduced to help support structured programmng :-) Rupert On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, 01:07 Tom Ross wrote: > >The addition of EXIT PARAGRAPH > >and EXIT SECTION have eliminated most of the reasons for use of G

z114 retroactive height reduction (FC 9975) for transportation

2020-06-11 Thread Christian Svensson
Hi, A bit of a niche question maybe, but this list usually enjoys those! I need to move my z114, and sadly I don't have the possibility of inspecting it physically right now. I was wondering if anyone knows if it is possible to reduce the height of the z114? In the IMPP there is a FC 9975 which s

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
Whether or not your methodology involves copying libraries or zones, you have to be careful of everything. Every strategy has risks that you need to address. There is no need to re-receive anything. You should, however, frequently receive the HOLDATA. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.g

Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes"

2020-06-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
? GTF? Generalized Trace Facility? Is there another GTF in z/OS? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Paul Gilmartin [000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listser

Re: Messages & Codes (again; was: another APPLY difficulty)

2020-06-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
Compartmentalization. Presumably the DFSMSdfp people don't talk to the OMVS people. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Paul Gilmartin [000433f07816-dma

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
There are several strategies. I'd advice you to use a symbol to select the default DB2. The key, however, is that whatever approach you use you think through and document all the issues. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM

Re: And another APPLY difficulty - IEW2821W

2020-06-11 Thread Jousma, David
Yes, I think that is your issue. Check BPXPRM00 for the SUPERUSER keyword. That userid has to exist, and have UID 0 // /* */ /* SUPERUSER is a 1 to 8-char

Re: Goto Statements AND COBOL OPTIMIZATION

2020-06-11 Thread Clark Morris
[Default] On 10 Jun 2020 17:14:25 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main tmr...@stlvm20.vnet.ibm.com (Tom Ross) wrote: >>The addition of EXIT PARAGRAPH >>and EXIT SECTION have eliminated most of the reasons for use of GO TO >>in COBOL. I would be interested in any corrections to my >>understanding by th

Re: SMF 71 long floating point fields

2020-06-11 Thread Barry Merrill
-Original Message- From: Barry Merrill Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 10:02 AM To: 'pr...@videotron.ca' Subject: RE: SMF 71 long floating point fields To SAS, they are straightforward RB8. fields with exponent and mantissa. SMF71AFB=80737.714286 RBCHAR=4513B61B6DB6DB6D SMF71AFB=80700.14

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Bill Giannelli
So this is for DB2 software. Distribution libraries are *.AD* Target libraries are *.SD*. So I would create a second target zone a define datasets and DDDEFs for say "*.target2.SD*" ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archiv

Messages & Codes (again; was: another APPLY difficulty)

2020-06-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 18:57:12 +, Gibney, Dave wrote: > >The BINDER error is: >IEW2821W DF39 UID 0 NOT PROCESSED. UNIX SYSTEM SERVICES FUNCTION GETPWUID >RETURNED REASON CODE 0B4F0800 AND RETURN CODE > 00A3. >Likely due to this in the BINDER control statements: >SETOPT PARM(PATHMODE(

Re: And another APPLY difficulty - IEW2821W

2020-06-11 Thread Gibney, Dave
I think I have it. I had noticed this new Healthcheck with z/OS 2.3 and I intended to address it shortly. BPXH081I The following problem was found with the SUPERUSER parmlib statement: UserID is not defined to the security produ

Re: And another APPLY difficulty - IEW2821W

2020-06-11 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I am leaning toward what David had suggested - only based on the binder message IEW2821W UID userid NOT PROCESSED. UNIX SYSTEM SERVICES FUNCTION GETPWUID RETURNED REASON CODE reason AND RETURN CODE rc Explanation: The value specified for UID is not a TSO/E user name or z/OS UNIX user ID kno

Re: Catalog solution - dead or live?

2020-06-11 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
Depends on your definition. (Is a zombie dead or alive?) We've run Catalog Solution since Rocket was just gleam in someone's eye. We techs would love to convert to Catalog Recovery Plus. Rocket has offered incentives to covert. Our management doesn't seem to give a sh*t. CS is still supported. R

Re: And another APPLY difficulty - IEW2821W

2020-06-11 Thread Gibney, Dave
Hate to admit it, but I have UID(0) on my id at this time. And, I do have READ to BPX.SUPERUSER. I don't see any ICH messages in the obvious places > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Jousma, David > Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 12:10 PM > To: IBM

Re: And another APPLY difficulty - IEW2821W

2020-06-11 Thread Jousma, David
Are you permitted to BPX.SUPERUSER? Looks like you may not be? IEW2821W DF39 UID 0 NOT PROCESSED. UNIX SYSTEM SERVICES FUNCTION GETPWUID RETURNED REASON CODE 0B4F0800 AND RETURN CODE 00A3.

And another APPLY difficulty - IEW2821W

2020-06-11 Thread Gibney, Dave
I am seeing this in the CAUSER report for an APPLY CHECK: CAUSER FMID MESSAGE ID PAGE ERROR DESCRIPTION AND POSSIBLE CAUSES UJ01705 HOT77B0 GIM23911E 16 LINK-EDIT PROCESSING FAILED FOR MODULE FSUMXTSM IN LMOD FSUMSTSM IN THE SFSUMLIB LIBRARY.

Re: SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-11 Thread Gibney, Dave
This list doesn't do attachments. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Bill Giannelli > Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 11:36 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: SMPe Apply not working > > I attached the apply check and the nonapply list >

Re: SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-11 Thread Carmen Vitullo
really need to see more than just your apply control cards, and IIRC that APPLY PTFS for a new FMIND ( function ) will not apply the FMID you need unless you specify APPLY FORFMID. show the entire apply smpprts and smpout show the FMID received successfully also Carmen Vitullo -

Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes"

2020-06-11 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Apparently that world is not this world. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 11:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes" > DBD or PSB library. In a kinder,

Re: SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-11 Thread Bill Giannelli
I attached the apply check and the nonapply list -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-11 Thread Bill Giannelli
APPLY PTFS BYPASS( HOLDSYSTEM(ACTION,AO,DB2BIND,DEP,DOC,IPL,MULTSYS)) GROUPEXTEND CHECK . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access

Re: SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-11 Thread Allan Staller
Wrong Global zone specified? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Giannelli Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 12:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: SMPe Apply not working [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organization. Unless you trust th

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Allan Staller
You still end up with a major syncing problem using either Shmuel's or my previous suggestion. I personally have 1 set of target zones and a "canned" job to build an new sysres from scratch using the SMP/E targets as the source. I am happy to share the JCL if you would like. HTH, -Origina

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Allan Staller
Not sure I remember the details. I worked with one ex-sysprog that cloned the SMP/E target environment to the sysres for documentation purposes (1980's.) ZoneCopy should do a lot of what you seem to be looking for. I (personally do not think that is the way to go. My suggestion is One global zone

Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes"

2020-06-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 17:47:46 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >I call that the "GTF effect"; the problem never manifests when I have >diagnostic measures in place to capture failure data. > GTF? Generalized Trace Facility? A colleague once used the term "Heisenberg effect" for a performance monito

Re: SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
Those are not the messages I would like to see 1) Provide the APPLY Statement in full. 2) Provide all messages from the APPLY Function from SMOUT DD statement This will help us see what the issues might be. Sometimes when you do an APPLY it is for the incorrect FMID or the wrong SREL. We woul

Re: Messages & Codes (was Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes")

2020-06-11 Thread Allan Staller
Nope! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Seymour J Metz Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 10:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Messages & Codes (was Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes") [CAUTION: This Email is from outside the Organizatio

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Tom Marchant
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 11:40:47 -0500, Bill Giannelli wrote: >So I've been reviewing the options you all have so kindly shares zonecopy, >zonemerge, zoneexportand it seems obvious you need to be careful of the >DDDEFs and renaming of datasets. If not careful you can really screw up and >overla

Re: SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-11 Thread Carmen Vitullo
Ditto, I'd like to also see what was actually received, this is a new product IIRC, so did the FMID actually get received+PTF's ? show what actually got received would also help Carmen Vitullo - Original Message - From: "Dave Gibney" To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, J

Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes"

2020-06-11 Thread Charles Mills
The telephone folks used to close tickets with CWT -- "cleared while testing." In other words, they could not reproduce. Another support favorite: Customer: You've got to help us. It's happening all the time. It's really killing us. We're dead in the water without a fix. Tech: Add a SYSUDUMP DD

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Gibney, Dave
If you stay current on HOLDDATA, which you should, then conditions will have changed between the two sequences. You are not actually recreating your tested maintenance environment into your production. > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Bill Gianne

Re: SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-11 Thread Gibney, Dave
And the output from smpout and smprpt > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On > Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen > Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2020 10:57 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: SMPe Apply not working > > Show the APPLY statement. > > On Thu, 11 Jun

Re: SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-11 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Show the APPLY statement. On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 12:27:00 -0500 Bill Giannelli wrote: :>GIM59603IENQ WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR SHARED USE OF OEMPP.DB2.V12R02M0.SMPPTS1 FOR :>GIM59603IENQ WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR SHARED USE OF OEMPP.DB2.V12R02M0.SMPPTS2 FOR :>GIM24801S ** NO SYSMODS SATISFIED THE OPERA

Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes"

2020-06-11 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
There's another factor in the Betamax vs. VHS struggle. I went into a department store to buy my first camcorder in the early 80s. I chose a Beta model. The sales guy said, "Most folks these days are buying VHS. You can only exchange tapes with the same technology. Pick out a VHS model. Take it

Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes"

2020-06-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
> DBD or PSB library. In a kinder, more gentle world, the message would tell you which. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf of Frank Swarbrick [frank.swarbr..

Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes"

2020-06-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
I call that the "GTF effect"; the problem never manifests when I have diagnostic measures in place to capture failure data. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on behalf

Re: SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-11 Thread David Spiegel
Maybe the Zone is set to an incorrect Zone. (i.e SET BDY(TZONE).) On 2020-06-11 13:17, Bill Giannelli wrote: I ran a GIMSUP download, unpack, receive which ran clean. I see the received ptfs in a LIST NOAPPLY. But when I run theAPPLY I get "NO SYSMODS SATISFIED THE OPERANDS SPECIFIED ON THE AP

Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes"

2020-06-11 Thread Tom Brennan
At least in that case you can hopefully reproduce the error :) It's the one-time lost error messages that as a support person, you sometimes have to say, "Oh well" My favorite is when someone is repeatedly getting an error, but when they call me over and without doing anything differently, the

Re: Goto Statements AND COBOL OPTIMIZATION

2020-06-11 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Those were added w/ COBOL 2002, not 2014. Don't give yourself too much credit! 🙂 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Tom Ross Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2020 6:07 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Goto Statements AND COBOL OPTIMIZATION

Re: SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-11 Thread Bill Giannelli
GIM59603IENQ WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR SHARED USE OF OEMPP.DB2.V12R02M0.SMPPTS1 FOR GIM59603IENQ WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR SHARED USE OF OEMPP.DB2.V12R02M0.SMPPTS2 FOR GIM24801S ** NO SYSMODS SATISFIED THE OPERANDS SPECIFIED ON THE APPLY COMMAND. GIM59606IDEQ WAS SUCCESSFUL FOR EXCLUSIVE USE OF OEM

Re: SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-11 Thread Lizette Koehler
Show us the output. Possible there are some control cards that are needed or the PTFs do not match the SREL or FIMDs in your global zone. But the GIM Messages would be very helpful to see Lizette -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bill Giannelli Sent

SMPe Apply not working

2020-06-11 Thread Bill Giannelli
I ran a GIMSUP download, unpack, receive which ran clean. I see the received ptfs in a LIST NOAPPLY. But when I run theAPPLY I get "NO SYSMODS SATISFIED THE OPERANDS SPECIFIED ON THE APPLY". What could I be doing wrong? thanks Bill

Re: [External] Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes"

2020-06-11 Thread Charles Mills
My other favorite. We had someone call about an installation problem. The solution was rather involved so our support tech said "it is covered in detail in the Installation Manual" whereupon the customer guy said "oh, I don't have the manuals. Bob has the manuals. He's in charge of documentation

Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes"

2020-06-11 Thread Frank Swarbrick
Here are all of the possibly relevant parts from the JESMSGLG for a similar occurrence that I just caused. +*DFS0929I BLDL FAILED FOR MEMBER --ABCDEFG IEA995I SYMPTOM DUMP OUTPUT 830 USER COMPLETION CODE=0929 TIME=10.52.44 SEQ=18497 CPU= ASID=0038 PSW AT TIME OF ERROR 078D1000 9012

Re: SMF 71 long floating point fields

2020-06-11 Thread Martin Packer
What does the first byte look like, typically? I'm guessing 4X hex. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer zChampion, Systems Investigator & Performance Troubleshooter, IBM +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter / Facebook IDs: MartinPacker Blog: https://mainframeperformancetopics.co

Re: [External] Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes"

2020-06-11 Thread Bob Bridges
My favorite is a marketing guy I was supporting. He called for my help with some problem that had occurred - I don't remember what exactly, probably with a DYL-280II program that he'd written with my help - and, as always, I asked him what the error message had said. "Oh, it said some damn thi

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Bill Giannelli
So I've been reviewing the options you all have so kindly shares zonecopy, zonemerge, zoneexportand it seems obvious you need to be careful of the DDDEFs and renaming of datasets. If not careful you can really screw up and overlay one environment. While simplistic and perhaps slightly more w

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
I prefer to have a rotating list of TARGET/DLIB pairs, with symbols keyed to the IPL volser. When I want to promote a configuration from, e.g., TEST to QA, I just IPL. Note that whatever methodology you you, there will be some bookkeeping associated with it, and cutting corners can be fatal.

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Jousma, David
I do a similar process. One global zone for a z/os ver.rel, a "maintenance zone", and then a target zone that matches every active SYSRES in my environment. One DLIB zone.Maintenance is only actively applied to the maintenance zone, and when ready to promote that level into use, I have a s

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
I would go for a shared GLOBAL and 3 TARGET/DLIB pairs. I would use REPORT SYSMOD to help keep them in synch. Of course, often there are installation standards in place as to maintenance methodology, and you can't change things without getting the appropriate approval. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) M

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Carmen Vitullo
I've done something similar but with one global zone and 2 target zones, one for the current maint and one for the next maint - one DLIB zone, so one global, one receive, apply to tzone1 migrate, then receive more maint, accept, then apply to tzone2, something like that. if you want a totally s

Re: [External] Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes"

2020-06-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
Well, in the TSO environment there's a service to build messages from templates, plugging in variables. ISPF has similar services. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on

Re: Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread David Spiegel
SMP/e ZONECOPY, UCLIN (to fix the DDDEFs), DFSMSDss to COPY and RENAME the Datasets On 2020-06-11 11:38, Bill Giannelli wrote: I want to setup separate SMPe environments, say 3 for different maintenance levels. One matching production then 2 others for maintenance levels "coming next". My ques

Separate SMPe environments for maintenance levels

2020-06-11 Thread Bill Giannelli
I want to setup separate SMPe environments, say 3 for different maintenance levels. One matching production then 2 others for maintenance levels "coming next". My question is, when I what to update my PROD environment with one of the other maintenance levels, do I need to go thru receive, apply,

Re: [External] Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes"

2020-06-11 Thread Charles Mills
That's cool, the is/are and pluralization. I never bothered -- I have always gone with (s) as in "You have %d dog(s)" Yes, I really upped my error message game when I went from assembler to C++. Yes, you can do anything in assembler, but unless you have or devote time to developing macros such

Re: Messages & Codes (was Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes")

2020-06-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
Any message whose action is given as "contact your systems programmer" is just as bad. Has IBM finally gotten rid of all of those? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] on

Re: Messages & Codes (was Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes")

2020-06-11 Thread Seymour J Metz
When IBM started using pictures instead of text in their assembly instructions, I coinded the phrase "International icons: unintelligible in any language." The concept, of course, applies to software, not just to printed product assembly instruction, and indisputably not just IBM. BTW, would it

Re: Messages & Codes (was Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes")

2020-06-11 Thread Charles Mills
You have to understand national politics: "we won't buy this product; the error messages are in English" [not French, Japanese, etc.] Even though you are of course right, "diskette in drive" is more understandable to the average French speaker than !! Sys01475 Charles -Original Message-

Re: Messages & Codes (was Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes")

2020-06-11 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 16:42:02 +0800, Timothy Sipples wrote: >This pair of error messages was a design mistake: > >OS/2 !! Sys01475 >OS/2 !! Sys02027 > >That's a case of national language considerations run amok. ... > >A diskette's boot sector doesn't have much room, ... >:-) Please don't try to j

Re: Messages & Codes (was Re: "Everyone wants to retire mainframes")

2020-06-11 Thread Timothy Sipples
This pair of error messages was a design mistake: OS/2 !! Sys01475 OS/2 !! Sys02027 That's a case of national language considerations run amok. That was the only pair of messages you saw on your screen when you formatted a diskette with OS/2, left the diskette in the primary drive, and rebooted