Re: shopz UJ01255

2020-09-30 Thread Brian Westerman
it was superseded by UJ02346 in PUT2003 which was contained in RSU2006. so I would imagine that if it was already supped just 2 months later that getting it now would probably not be a productive use of your time. While you can install by PUT, I would not. I think it's far better to stick

Re: shopz UJ01255

2020-09-30 Thread R Hey
Thanks for the replies. I ordered UJ01255, it had PUT2001 (no RSU 8 months later). I did raise the issue with support, was told : UJ01255 was not included in RSU2001. It didn't not meet the following criteria: -Severity 1 or 2 -HIPER -PEFIX

Re: ASMA500W using _boundary_ on ORG statement

2020-09-30 Thread CM Poncelet
CNOP 0,8?  On 30/09/2020 14:13, Peter Relson wrote: >> ORG *,8 > Curious: Does this do anything that "DS0D" doesn't do? > Wouldn't "DS0D" be more typical for "I want the next thing to be on a > doubleword boundary? > It certainly is for those of us who learned assembler long before

Re: SMPe Sourceid in GLOBAL not in TARGET

2020-09-30 Thread Mark Jacobs
Since I'm seeing nothing applied and no errors listed, my best guess is that any PTFs in the GLOBAL zone are; 1) Already applied 2) For different FMIDs from those that are already installed in the target zone 3) For a different SREL Mark Jacobs Sent from ProtonMail, Swiss-based encrypted

SMPe Sourceid in GLOBAL not in TARGET

2020-09-30 Thread Bill Giannelli
I have a sourceid in a global zone that doesnt show up in the target zone. When I run an apply it fails with : APPLY PTFS APARS

Re: usleep()

2020-09-30 Thread Kirk Wolf
I don't believe so. Which other platforms? https://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man3/usleep.3.html On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 4:19 PM Phil Smith III wrote: > The usleep() function in z/OS is documented as taking a single operand > that must be less than 1M; on other platforms, it must be *at least*

usleep()

2020-09-30 Thread Phil Smith III
The usleep() function in z/OS is documented as taking a single operand that must be less than 1M; on other platforms, it must be *at least* 1M. It also generates no error, and just returns instantly if you give it a value of 1M or more. This seems.poor. Anyone got any insight/guesses? Yes,

Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Jeremy Nicoll
On Tue, 29 Sep 2020, at 23:57, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > Similarly, I once created a data set such as: > DD DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSN=hlq.X.FOO-BAR > No problem. Later, I tried > DD DISP=(NEW,CATLG),DSN=hlq.Y.FOO-BAR, >DCB=hlq.X.FOO-BAR > Again, the hyphen caused a syntax error. The

Re: [External] Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Don Leahy
Also known as the “chicken out” prompt. :-) On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 14:50 Pommier, Rex wrote: > z/OS 2.4, it does not remember shutting those options off. I'm OK with > the behavior and could take it either way but I know I'd be recovering user > datasets much more often if the "are you

Re: FTPS Handshake Error

2020-09-30 Thread Roberto Halais
When you define the certificates to RACF do you have to issue some kind of RACF refresh command for ICSF? In my case we use Top Secret. I have followed your list of debug tips and I can't find anything wrong. Except for the question I posed. Thank you, Roberto On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 9:17 AM

Re: [External] Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Pommier, Rex
z/OS 2.4, it does not remember shutting those options off. I'm OK with the behavior and could take it either way but I know I'd be recovering user datasets much more often if the "are you sure" wasn't there. Rex -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of

Re: [External] Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Charles Mills
I *think* it remembers the option on the main panel, assuming you actually exit ISPF rather than 622'ing. I *like* the behavior. I don't mind the extra "are you sure?" on a single dataset delete -- has saved my @ss once or twice -- and if I am deleting a bunch, I set it off on the first

Re: NVAS MVS 2.1 help

2020-09-30 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
Peter, We are running NVAS 2.1, but it has been a LONG time since we implemented it and I don't remember all of the details. Here is link to the manuals if you don't have it already: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/tividd/td/NetViewAccessServices2.1.html IIRC there are 2 exits provided by IBM.

Re: [External] Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 10:51:36 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: > >For dataset delete from 3.4? > >On the main panel > >Enter "/" to select option >/ Confirm Data Set Delete >/ Confirm Member Delete > >And on the delete panel > >Enter "/" to select option > Set data

Re: [External] Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Charles Mills
> And I was irritated when ISPF, which I had long been using suddenly began > requiring confirmation on "Delete"; no profile to disable it. For dataset delete from 3.4? On the main panel Enter "/" to select option / Confirm Data Set Delete / Confirm Member Delete And on

Re: LUW (was: DFDSS support for ZFS files query)

2020-09-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
Well, when I dump a catalog I don't want to dump the associated data sets, but catalogs are very different animals from Uix directories. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Paul

Re: ASMA500W using _boundary_ on ORG statement

2020-09-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
ORG *,8 doesn't do anything that DS 0D doesn't do, but ORG *,256 has no DS equivalent. The syntax diagram in the HLASM reference shows ORG ,8 to be invalid syntax, so there is no way that the message could be legitimate; there should have been a message for syntax error. Of course, it would

Re: ASMA500W using _boundary_ on ORG statement

2020-09-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
An APAR would be appropriate for the incorrect error message, and you might consider an RFE to allow alignment on an omitted (high bound) relocatable expression. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
Rule 0: If your data-entry form has syntax requirements, indicate them on the form. That includes requiring or prohibiting punctuation. As for uppercasing the local part of an e-mail address, that is the sin for which there is no forgiveness. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz

Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 15:44:14 +, Seymour J Metz wrote: >Applications should diagnose but not "correct" user errors, and should use >comoon system services to do so, where they exist. OS developers should >provide services for validation. Neither application developers nor OS >developers

Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
Applications should diagnose but not "correct" user errors, and should use comoon system services to do so, where they exist. OS developers should provide services for validation. Neither application developers nor OS developers should attempt to validate externally defined data unless they

Re: ASMA500W using _boundary_ on ORG statement

2020-09-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
HLASM is a mainframe assembler, so it's legitimate here. It's also legitimate on the assembler list, with a smaller but more focused audience. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of

Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Charles Mills
Yeah, like every rule, there are exceptions. If on some particular system there were a very high overhead for a failed file open (or some analogous operation) then that might justify pre-validating an operand. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: [External] Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 13:59:02 +, Pommier, Rex wrote: > >OK, thanks. I hadn't considered the "I'm going to because I can" angle, >namely because I'm more of the "why would you even want to do that, even if >you can, it'll cause problems." Kind of guy. But I know the adage, every time

Re: DFDSS support for ZFS files query

2020-09-30 Thread Ernesto Figueroa
You are correct. For now, you must specify all the path names, but we understand this is a capability that ought to be provided in DFSMSdss. As others have mentioned, you may be able to use other tools to craft a list of path names and use that to generate DFSMSdss SYSIN statements. There is

Re: FTPS Handshake Error

2020-09-30 Thread Roberto Halais
Thank you both Wendell and Mike. I am following your recommendations for debugging. On Wed, Sep 30, 2020 at 9:17 AM Wendell Lovewell < 01e9c0ee0673-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Hello Roberto. > > In RACF-land, I'd look for an ICH message on the console to make sure you > don't

Re: [External] Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Pommier, Rex
Gil, OK, thanks. I hadn't considered the "I'm going to because I can" angle, namely because I'm more of the "why would you even want to do that, even if you can, it'll cause problems." Kind of guy. But I know the adage, every time somebody makes something foolproof, the universe comes up

Re: ASMA500W using _boundary_ on ORG statement

2020-09-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 09:13:57 -0400, Peter Relson wrote: >>ORG *,8 > >Curious: Does this do anything that "DS0D" doesn't do? > What construct allows the user to control the content of the slack bytes? How much does it matter? What construct truncates the TXT record? How much does it

Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 08:01:09 -0500, Walt Farrell wrote: >On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 16:59:34 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: > >>Applications should not "validate" filenames before attempting to open or >>create a file. Present the name to the file system API and report any error >>back to the user.

Re: ASMA500W using _boundary_ on ORG statement

2020-09-30 Thread Pew, Curtis G
On Sep 30, 2020, at 8:13 AM, Peter Relson wrote: > >> ORG *,8 > > Curious: Does this do anything that "DS0D" doesn't do? > Wouldn't "DS0D" be more typical for "I want the next thing to be on a > doubleword boundary? > It certainly is for those of us who learned assembler long before

Re: FTPS Handshake Error

2020-09-30 Thread Wendell Lovewell
Hello Roberto. In RACF-land, I'd look for an ICH message on the console to make sure you don't need to PERMIT the client or the server access to the keyring. I've found the gsk trace file to be very helpful--if the security manager doesn't tell you via a console message. Telling PAGENT

ASMA500W using _boundary_ on ORG statement

2020-09-30 Thread Peter Relson
>ORG *,8 Curious: Does this do anything that "DS0D" doesn't do? Wouldn't "DS0D" be more typical for "I want the next thing to be on a doubleword boundary? It certainly is for those of us who learned assembler long before SECTALGN (and this form of ORG) even existed. It might be true

Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 16:59:34 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >Applications should not "validate" filenames before attempting to open or >create a file. Present the name to the file system API and report any error >back to the user. Application filename validation is what leads to these

Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread Walt Farrell
On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 19:58:06 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote: >On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 16:59:34 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: > >>Applications should not "validate" filenames before attempting to open or >>create a file. Present the name to the file system API and report any error >>back to the user.

Re: Searching MLPA module

2020-09-30 Thread Peter Relson
>Is it possible to delete a E-MLPA module dynamically ? No. Why would you want to? It is possible to delete a dynamic-LPA module dynamically but it is almost always a system integrity error to do so because it is often impossible to be certain that there is no code executing within it

LUW (was: DFDSS support for ZFS files query)

2020-09-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 20:35:11 +1000, Andrew Rowley wrote: >On 30/09/2020 6:03 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote: >> The DSS manual say that when you specify a directory, it does not dump the >> files under that directory. That's very different from the behavior of, >> e.g., tar. > >I guess I shouldn't be

Re: DFDSS support for ZFS files query

2020-09-30 Thread Sean Gleann
I'm hoping that it's still a 'work in progress' & that one day I'll be able to say 'DUMP PATH INCLUDE('/foldera/folderb/**') or something close to that. Sean On Wed, 30 Sep 2020 at 11:35, Andrew Rowley wrote: > On 30/09/2020 6:03 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote: > > The DSS manual say that when you

Re: DFDSS support for ZFS files query

2020-09-30 Thread Andrew Rowley
On 30/09/2020 6:03 pm, Seymour J Metz wrote: The DSS manual say that when you specify a directory, it does not dump the files under that directory. That's very different from the behavior of, e.g., tar. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, given how often IBM don't do things the way I hoped.

Re: DFDSS support for ZFS files query

2020-09-30 Thread Seymour J Metz
The DSS manual say that when you specify a directory, it does not dump the files under that directory. That's very different from the behavior of, e.g., tar. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz http://mason.gmu.edu/~smetz3 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: DFDSS support for ZFS files query

2020-09-30 Thread Andrew Rowley
I haven't tested it myself, but what I would hope is that it works like unix utilities, where the file you specify could actually be a directory. It is pretty common when using tar etc. to set the working directory, and specify e.g. "." (a dot) to select the current directory, or specify a

Re: blanks at the end of Unix file names - was LMINIT cannot handle concatenation with more than 16 data sets?

2020-09-30 Thread David Crayford
+1 On 2020-09-30 7:59 AM, Charles Mills wrote: Applications should not "validate" filenames before attempting to open or create a file. Present the name to the file system API and report any error back to the user. Application filename validation is what leads to these inconsistencies.

Re: DFDSS support for ZFS files query

2020-09-30 Thread Sean Gleann
Wayne: Yes, it does look like each file or path has to be explicitly defined Paul: '...akin to asking DFMSMdss to select individual PDS members' is an analogy I had not seen. Thank you. And of course, DFSMSdss has never been able to do this and it's unlikely it ever will; '...filenames containing