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I actually would rather have the IBM folks come in an
Most IT auditors I've dealt with recently cut their IT teeth on non-mainframe
platforms and have no clue as to how the mainframe works. Therefore, they push
for rules that are silly, limit productivity, and even create exposures that
don't exist on the mainframe. Even the young one I worked wit
, February 23, 2021 11:48 AM
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I worked for a company 30 years ago that at the time was part of the largest
fraud in
Nice story. However I think the discussion is limited to IT status auditing.
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On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 6:49 PM Bill Johnson <
0047540adefe-dmar
I worked for a company 30 years ago that at the time was part of the largest
fraud in corporate history. The CEO and executives had 2 sets of books. The
auditors were actively involved with the fraud. Anyone who has been around for
a few decades remembers that a number of the big 6 auditing fir
3 February 2021 9:26 AM CST
Subject: Re: Are these auditors competent? was Re: Anyway to save ISRDDN output?
Your faux auditors may be a RPITA, but a *qualified* auditor is a joy forever,
should you be so fortunate as to be audited by one. They will find things that
actually do need fixing, and wi
W dniu 23.02.2021 o 00:44, Radoslaw Skorupka pisze:
W dniu 21.02.2021 o 19:55, Paul Gilmartin pisze:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 18:23:03 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
...
When the only tool you've mastered is printscreen, everything
looks like a bitmap.
That was the requirement: to make Windows
mainframe because most of these guys were
SYSPROGS at one time
Carmen Vitullo
-Original Message-
From: Radoslaw
To: IBM-MAIN
Date: Monday, 22 February 2021 5:45 PM CST
Subject: Re: Are these auditors competent? was Re: Anyway to save ISRDDN output?
W dniu 21.02.2021 o 19:55, Paul Gilma
these guys were
SYSPROGS at one time
Carmen Vitullo
-Original Message-
From: Radoslaw
To: IBM-MAIN
Date: Monday, 22 February 2021 5:45 PM CST
Subject: Re: Are these auditors competent? was Re: Anyway to save ISRDDN output?
W dniu 21.02.2021 o 19:55, Paul Gilmartin pisze:
&g
On Tue, 23 Feb 2021 00:44:06 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
>
>No!
>No, and no!
>You assumed the auditor know the details and understand what emulator is.
>That's plain wrong.
>I learnt many years ago such auditors are uneducated, but they mask
>their ignorancy with some mask. This is complex topi
W dniu 21.02.2021 o 19:55, Paul Gilmartin pisze:
On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 18:23:03 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
...
When the only tool you've mastered is printscreen, everything
looks like a bitmap.
That was the requirement: to make Windows printscreen - a bitmap.
Did I forgot to mention it's
On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 18:23:03 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
>>...
>> When the only tool you've mastered is printscreen, everything
>> looks like a bitmap.
>
>That was the requirement: to make Windows printscreen - a bitmap.
>Did I forgot to mention it's plain stupid?
>
You mentioned that the
W dniu 21.02.2021 o 00:02, Paul Gilmartin pisze:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2021 23:21:11 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
...
In this case it had to be Windows printscreen, full screen, so it can be
x3270, Tom Brennan Vista, PCOMM, Notepad, Paint, whatever. The result is
always a bitmap.
x3270 can sav
On Sat, 20 Feb 2021 23:21:11 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
>...
>In this case it had to be Windows printscreen, full screen, so it can be
>x3270, Tom Brennan Vista, PCOMM, Notepad, Paint, whatever. The result is
>always a bitmap.
>
x3270 can save as text or HTML. The HTML is an excellent ful
W dniu 20.02.2021 o 20:32, Paul Gilmartin pisze:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2021 10:42:37 -0800, Tom Brennan wrote:
It's irritating that some users report problems and supply graphic
screenshots as documentation.
For mainframe issues at the terminal, sure. But in other cases I might
want an image, such as
W dniu 20.02.2021 o 19:03, Paul Gilmartin pisze:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2021 16:42:01 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
...
b) screenshot series is completely useless for browsing or searching
some string.
Depends. x3270 can capture screen content as either text or
impressively realistic HTML; both
For 30+ years I perform security assessments, status audits,
readiness reviews, pentest (call it as you like). I've NEVER (!)
interviewed a person, or asked him for a screenshot. give me a standard
user (for phase one) and one with ROAUDIT (for phase two). The system knows
better how it is configed
The HMC has a browser interface, not TN3270
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On Sat, 20 Feb 2021 10:42:37 -0800, Tom Brennan wrote:
>>
>> It's irritating that some users report problems and supply graphic
>> screenshots as documentation.
>
>For mainframe issues at the terminal, sure. But in other cases I might
>want an image, such as last week with a new z15 that wouldn't
On 2/20/2021 10:03 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
It's irritating that some users report problems and supply graphic
screenshots as documentation.
For mainframe issues at the terminal, sure. But in other cases I might
want an image, such as last week with a new z15 that wouldn't IPL and I
asked
On Sat, 20 Feb 2021 16:42:01 +0100, Radoslaw Skorupka wrote:
>...
>b) screenshot series is completely useless for browsing or searching
>some string.
>
Depends. x3270 can capture screen content as either text or
impressively realistic HTML; both quite browsable/searchable.
(But does that vio
W dniu 19.02.2021 o 00:12, Frank Swarbrick pisze:
Who audits the auditors?
:-)
I think this is really important and it will take place in the future.
Or just some feedback process to report formal objections about the
auditor and his incompetence.
I met a lot of auditors and unfortunately I o
: Thursday, February 18, 2021 5:01 PM
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Subject: Are these auditors competent? was Re: Anyway to save ISRDDN output?
[Default] On 18 Feb 2021 05:12:25 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
cvitu...@hughes.net (Carmen Vitullo) wrote:
>I actually like the IBM health checker idea
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Subject: Are these auditors competent? was Re: Anyway to save ISRDDN output?
[Default] On 18 Feb 2021 05:12:25 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
cvitu...@hughes.net (Carmen Vitullo) wrote:
>I actually like the IBM health checker idea, I know I've been told
Indeed Frank, like the Skype message I have for work, "who's watching the
Watchers ?" :)
Carmen Vitullo
-Original Message-
From: Frank
To: IBM-MAIN
Date: Thursday, 18 February 2021 5:12 PM CST
Subject: Re: Are these auditors competent? was Re: Anyway to sav
Who audits the auditors?
:-)
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Clark Morris
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[Default] On 18 Feb
Also note unless you're protecting the CSVAPF.** resource, whatever method
you're using to obtain the list of APF authorized datasets, it's just a
snapshot in time, and can change unknowingly.
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[Default] On 18 Feb 2021 05:12:25 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
cvitu...@hughes.net (Carmen Vitullo) wrote:
>I actually like the IBM health checker idea, I know I've been told over and
>over it needs to be ISRDDN, but I really think it's because that's all they
>know, they are lazy to say the
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