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SRB code is entered in KEY ZERO and Supervisor state.
SRB code can issue no SVC's except ABEND and there are limits on the system
macros you can call.
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On 28 October 2015 at 17:31, R.S. wrote:
Probably my post yesterday was "TL;DR" (current popular expression for
Too Long; Didn't Read"). I will try again.
> As I said it is possible to know the details without signing an agreement.
Sure.
> Last, but not least:
W dniu 2015-10-29 o 17:56, Tony Harminc pisze:
On 28 October 2015 at 17:31, R.S. wrote:
Probably my post yesterday was "TL;DR" (current popular expression for
Too Long; Didn't Read"). I will try again.
Ijust missed your previous post. :-)
Nobody's perfect.
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W dniu 2015-10-26 o 01:53, Peter Relson pisze:
Once properly licensed, I believe that there is very little of your own
code that you are not allowed to make zIIP eligible.
The main thing that you are not allowed to do is to make someone else's
code zIIP-eligible (which includes calling them
To get a legal copy you must have signed a user agreement (since several years
ago) which precludes the use of specialty engines except as allowed by IBM.
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W dniu 2015-10-28 o 14:00, Jon Butler pisze:
To get a legal copy you must have signed a user agreement (since several years
ago) which precludes the use of specialty engines except as allowed by IBM.
What are the terms and conditions for zIIP usage in the user agreement?
As far as I remeber,
On 28 October 2015 at 10:07, R.S. wrote:
> What are the terms and conditions for zIIP usage in the user agreement? As
> far as I remeber, there is nothing about my coding.
There are two documents under discussion here, and maybe they are
being confused:
1) There
: Re: Create zIIP workload
W dniu 2015-10-28 o 14:00, Jon Butler pisze:
> To get a legal copy you must have signed a user agreement (since several
> years ago) which precludes the use of specialty engines except as allowed by
> IBM.
What are the terms and conditions for zIIP usage in
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Subject: Re: Create zIIP workload
Radoslaw,
Having coded in that area and environment, there is no way to get there by
accident. You need macros that you only get access to after you have a signed
ISV agreement in place, or you would have to do a lot of reverse engi
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Chris,
It is very unlikely I would start coding in assembler, but it is possib
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W dniu 2015-10-28 o 14:00, Jon Butler pisze:
To get a legal copy you must have signed a user agreement (since several years
ago) which precludes the use of specialty engines except as allowed by IBM.
What are the terms and
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IBM's big issue with Neon zPrime was because it allowed people to run
work from other vendors on zIIPs.
If you (as a licensed vendor) have authorization to run your code on
zIIPs, and another vendor gives you a letter saying 'Yes, you can call
my software from a zIIP', then again IBM is not
>Wouldn't IBM's approval be required also, or even instead?
I elieve that the extent of IBM's approval is intended to be identified in
the license agreement.
Since that license agreement does not cover ISV's, in the absence of
additional agreement, ISV billing is expected to remain unchanged
On Sun, 25 Oct 2015 20:53:13 -0400, Peter Relson wrote:
>Once properly licensed, I believe that there is very little of your own
>code that you are not allowed to make zIIP eligible.
>
>The main thing that you are not allowed to do is to make someone else's
>code zIIP-eligible (which includes
, October 23, 2015 8:19 PM
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Subject: Re: Create zIIP workload
On 23 October 2015 at 10:12, Leonardo Vaz <leonardo@cn.ca> wrote:
> I could not find documentation on how to create an enclave SRB that would
> make use of the zIIP processor.
> Is this docu
On Fri, 23 Oct 2015 20:18:39 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote:
>
>IBM also has rules (published following the Neon Systems legal action
>a few years ago) that describe what workloads IBM allows to be run on
>the various kinds of processors:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 08:27:29 -0400, Tony Thigpen wrote:
>
>It has to do with how the other guy prices his software. For example, if
>he is mips based on a specific box, and you then start running his
>software on a much faster zIIP, he would be loosing revenue and the
>customer could be in
Paul,
It has to do with how the other guy prices his software. For example, if
he is mips based on a specific box, and you then start running his
software on a much faster zIIP, he would be loosing revenue and the
customer could be in violation of the use agreement.
Tony Thigpen
Paul
IBM have announced that they are bringing Apache Spark to z/OS and
that's written in Scala so I think it's fair to say that it's going to
run on a zIIP.
Interestingly, Spark has a Python API, CPython not Jython. I wonder if
IBM are going to support a Python port?
On 25/10/2015 8:38 AM, John
Once properly licensed, I believe that there is very little of your own
code that you are not allowed to make zIIP eligible.
The main thing that you are not allowed to do is to make someone else's
code zIIP-eligible (which includes calling them from a zIIP-eligible
state), without their
Since Scala compiles to Java byte code and is run like any other java class
or jar application, I don't see how z/OS could differentiate between byte
code from Scala (or Groovy or JPython or ) and Java itself. But I've
been proven wrong before.
On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Tony Harminc
On 24 October 2015 at 00:53, David Crayford wrote:
> Scala goes pretty well on z/OS too.
That's an interesting one.Depending on how you interpret those IBM
rules, it may or may not be legit to run it on a zAAP/zIIP. I can
pretty much parse the rule either way, but of course
On 24/10/2015 8:18 AM, Tony Harminc wrote:
On 23 October 2015 at 10:12, Leonardo Vaz wrote:
I could not find documentation on how to create an enclave SRB that would make
use of the zIIP processor.
Is this documented anywhere?
As Bob said, it's available to ISVs. If you
Hello List, I hope you all are doing well.
I could not find documentation on how to create an enclave SRB that would make
use of the zIIP processor. Is this documented anywhere?
Thanks and regards,
Leo
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Aw :( thank you for the info Bob!
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> I could not find documentat
> I could not find documentation on how to create an enclave SRB that would
> make use of the zIIP processor. Is this documented anywhere?
It is not publically documented. The documentation is available to vendors
under CDA.
Bob Shannon
Rocket Software
Rocket
On 23 October 2015 at 10:12, Leonardo Vaz wrote:
> I could not find documentation on how to create an enclave SRB that would
> make use of the zIIP processor.
> Is this documented anywhere?
As Bob said, it's available to ISVs. If you can convince IBM that you
are one
5:19 PM
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Subject: Re: Create zIIP workload
On 23 October 2015 at 10:12, Leonardo Vaz <leonardo@cn.ca> wrote:
> I could not find documentation on how to create an enclave SRB that would
> make use of the zIIP processor.
> Is this documented anywher
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